I have some insight on story #3. I used to have my own cleaning service (nothing fancy just me, an independent maid) I actually got really frustrated when clients would try to "help" by doing my job. 1. You pay me to do this, let me do it! 2. I had a routine and when clients would do a small part of that routine it would throw off my groove. 3. Unless the client is picking up clutter, I prefer they leave me to do the rest of the cleaning chores. 4. I make the bed a certain way so I'll just remake it. That also goes for most chores, I'll just redo it. Save your energy.
First story: NTA, a good friend would let their friend know that. It’s not healthy to build your entire personality and base your hobbies only on who you’re dating. It shows that she’s very insecure in herself that she relies on a man to know herself. Second story: fuck around and find out unfortunately. Third story: NTA. When I went to Thailand I found it so uncomfortable how people jumped to serve us and was always appreciative and tried to lessen their load. If I was with someone who lavished in being served and told me to let them because it’s their job I’d be very uncomfortable. I don’t think you can be the asshole for being put off by people being completely unfazed by being served like royalty. It shows they probably just aren’t compatible long term due to their differences. Fourth story: NTA, if you can’t cook you can’t give coking advice
Yes! I agree with your take on the first story. And I’ll add that what her friend needs is some time alone. I don’t recall her age but it seems like she never had the time to gain a sense of self. She’s always someone’s friend/daughter/gf & didn’t develop an identity outside of what she can provide to others. I would advise her not to invest so much too. It’s ok to take part while she’s around her gamer bf but she needs time to sit & think. Maybe create a vision board. Create standards and boundaries. Self love should be paramount.
I KNEW STAYING UP LATER TONIGHT WOULD PAY OFF!!! refreshed my youtube, saw a new two hot takes episode, and almost woke up my neighbors from my excitement...(and also accidently throwing my laptop across my room...whoops).
Story 3: OP is wrong. I'm poor as f***, but the girlfriend's family didn't treat the staff in an unconventional way. What the guy has a problem with is the family having buttlers in the first place, which is fine, but then he should have just said that. And the girlfriend clocked it because she said he had a problem with their way of life.
I kinda agree up until the bit where the gf complained to her mother about OP making their own coffee without talking to OP first about what happened. That gives me bad vibes honestly.
Story 3: I grew up around servants and even I get uncomfortable sometimes when other’s don’t treat them right. The issue lies in the details; when someone’s job is to literally take care of your needs it can be difficult to separate their duties from your personal responsibility. OP is considerate but they should consider the perspective of those servants; they’re attending to the people of the house’s needs, that’s their literal job. So to them, OP means well but is actually interfering with their work. Even making the bed; my mother always makes her bed in the morning, but our maid remakes it to her standards 😅 she’s just like that, I ask her not clean my room and she does it anyway; it’s like an itch that she has, she likes to have things clean and organised and taken care of. I love our maid, she’s part of the family, and she knows it. Just because you’re not used to something doesn’t make it wrong, sometimes you just need to be open minded to other lifestyles. 💁🏽♀️
I agree it might be interfering with the jobs. I was a housekeeper and a personal care aid, where I worked in people's homes. I would get a little annoyed when I was supposed to do something as part of my job and a client did it themselves. It made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them. It's so weird because if I gave examples it would seem like the person was being really nice but I took it as a personal attack against my work. Also if you do my work for me, then I have nothing to do and I'm wasting my time.
In my country no one has servants. For many years it was the people here who would be servants for others, either for the colonising class here or by going abroad. I think maybe that's why it's the norm here to help cleaners or waiters etc. and to thank them profusely. When I was a child our teachers would have us clean the classroom at the end of every day and one time our principal said "you may think it's silly to clean this room when someone else is being paid to clean it later - but just because it's their job does not mean that we have to make their job harder". That seems to be the general attitude most people have here. Even if we don't do anything to actively help, people always ask if there's a way they can make someone's job easier - like moving out of the way if someone is hoovering, or moving all the empty plates towards where the waiter is so that they don't have to walk around into narrow corners. That sort of thing.
i kid you not i just turned your channel on in the first time in months LITERALLY not even 10 mins ago and you upload this at a radom time at night😭😭i just got scared asf, are you watching me morgz????
I totally agree with the verdict on story 3. My mother works as a cleaner at hotels and when guests "tidy up" or "make their bed", it means nothing to her since she still has to do it anyway. The hotel has their own way of cleaning and making the bed. The guests can't know that because it's not their job to know that. This man totally interfered with staffs jobs and, not to be dramatic but, belittled their work environment and profession. He's the A.
I paused this video just to check out Michelle’s page and see who she is. I ended up watching a few shorts…and the entire Houdini episode! Almost brought me to tears because you really form a bond with Michelle and are with her for the journey and each struggle. I found a new RUclipsr to watch! Her videos are also extremely informative which is a break from my crazy Reddit drama lol. Thanks Morgan for introducing us!!! 5am and still haven’t gotten to sleep with my 5month old. Morgan entertains us on sleepless nights.
Story 4: I'm a guy with 2 now-grown(ish) daughters -- 18 and 21. I taught my daughters to cook, clean, sew. I also taught them to use power tools, program computers, do art, and play board games. I'm both glad I didn't have boys (I'm not a sports guy), but also wish I did to explain that this shit wouldn't fly.
the top comment on story #3 opened my mind to a new dimension. after listening to the story i was like "he needs to leave his gf ASAP because wtf?" but then hearing the different point of view on the situation completely changed my mind...wow. this is why i love this podcast!
never in my LIFE have i been this early for a video!! I’ve been watching your channel for what feels like forever. It keeps me company on my commute to work and when i’m cleaning the house. Thank you for creating a safe space for so many people :)
okay but in all seriousness....MORGAN IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE TO BE A VOICE ACTOR FOR CALM. her voice is sooo soothing. i could be so anxious and once i listen to an episode i feel so relaxed, just by listening!
Smoke detectors don't just detect smoke. They're more like small particle detectors. Which is why steam, perfume, febreeze, anything sprayed into the air can cause it to set off.
Story 7 If he has a job I wonder if he answers work calls at all times, and is jealous that he feels has to answer all his work calls, but she doesn’t. Or maybe he is a boss that calls his employees at all hours and sympathizes with OP’s boss more than her.
"The psychology of boy-mons needs to be studied" is the truest statement I heard this week! Edit: the BF in the last story is definitely trying to sabotage her. Not caring about the consequences in this context IS sabotage!
Omf!!!! Michelle Khare! The very first video I saw of hers was working out like a vs model, so inspirational and real about the entire process. Love your whole energy!
Story 2- call me naive but I don't understand the husband's reaction?? why wouldn't you want to talk about it, try counselling, etc... it doesn't even sound like he asked 'are you sure?' or 'can we talk about this?' or anything. It almost seems like he wanted out and OP gave him the perfect excuse (not saying that's the case though). Yes OP was an ass for the 'prank' but something about the husband's reaction doesn't sit right with me.
Have you ever had a partner or known a couple where one of them uses the threat of breaking up whenever there’s any sort of conflict? That can cause people to set a hard line when it comes to that. And she keeps saying it’s a joke, but also that her and her friends were using it to make their partners more attentive, so not really a joke, but a threat. I can see where he would instantly make up his mind, because if you continue on, then what’s to stop her from doing it again in the future? I personally don’t think I could ever trust someone who did that again.
I agree with you that was HUGE overreaction on his side. Yeah "prank" was stupid, but he instantly leaving, refusing to have even SINGLE conversation, shortly after that sending divorce papers - all of that feels like he already wanted divorce, or at least was thinking about it. Wh. he seen their relationship as broken in way before that, or he found some else, or he have some crazy deep-rooted issues and insecurities i dont know.
Story 2: im thinking if everything was actually going well, this could be a hard boundary for him. As in no matter how good the relationship if, he is not willing to bet his life on someone anymore after those words leave their mouth. Which I agree with honestly because I could never feel safe with someone after they said that and even if it was a joke I wouldnt want to be with someone who sees our marriage as the punchline of a joke. Edit: this kind of sounds like the reaction of a traumatized person. I might be projecting too but since I have PTSD and severe trust issues, someone could go from a trustworthy person who cares about me to untrustworthy and unpredictable in a split second. And for me at least at that point, my mind wound start to wander. Would they hurt me physically too? Can i sleep next to this person? Can i eat anything they made me ever again? Would they light the house on fire and record me as im crying to get a cheap laugh?
Controversial I think the story 3 has no assholes. I totally understand why someone would be uncomfortable being served if they’re not used to it, I certainly would be, but the examples he gave of the mistreatment truly didn’t seem that bad to me. Maybe I’m granted them too much Grace and assuming their tone wasn’t rude/demeaning, but “oh you don’t have to clean, that’s her job” …it is, she’s being paid to do that. Plus, she presumably knows the routine in the house, much like how you’d do your own cleaning after a guest leaves even if they technically clean up after themselves. The only one I could see being bad is the coffee situation, but at the same time, if you paid someone to do a service and then saw them not doing a service, i don’t think it’s wrong to bring it up. Bratty on her part, sure, but considering it sounds like the family spoke to him before the chefs, i just don’t see anything wrong on their part. Again, though, this is assuming their tone wasn’t outwardly rude, which op doesn’t make it sound like it was, more casual, which can be expected if this is the lifestyle they’re used to but he’s not
I completely agree, it depends on the tone. Cause as long as the staff is only doing stuff they've agreed on and not expected to do more than on the contract, it's okay. And you can still do kind things within that agreement like, not leaving trash everywhere or maybe removing bedsheets when they need washing. Or make your own coffee when they're busy cooking. And being kind to people makes them better employees. As a former hotel maid I really appreciated small things people did to make my job easier. But saying it's part of their job isn't rude or unkind either.
Story 1 I 100% say NTA. I personally love gaming and I’ve been doing it for the past 18 years of my life. Even I’M not about to drop that much on a gaming computer. I don’t think dropping that much money on a hobby you don’t even know if you like is responsible and I’d be concerned if one of my friends made that decision too.
Story 3: AH. It doesn’t sound like the family was rude to the staff, it sounds like he just didn’t like that they had staff. If he keeps doing their jobs then why do the staff need to be there. Maybe I missed where the family yelled or berated the staff🤔
I think i will be the only one with this take on story 2, but if i pulled this joke on my husband, he would never believe me and i would break a laugh before convincing him.. I think the husband was already waiting for a signal because no one walks away like this so fast. I think it depends on the couple if the joke can be funny or not.
For me the beach house story is like when they tell you not to make your own bed at a hotel, because the staff is going to have to remake it anyway. As someone who has both worked in service and lived in a house with a housekeeper, the one red flag I see is the girlfriend complaining to her parents about the cooks. But for example I have rented a place where the landlord paid for someone to come deep clean the house every other month, and at first we would really try to clean and tidy the place as much as possible the day before the cleaning lady came. Then we realized that by doing that not only were we unknowingly cutting her hours, but we weren’t doing as good a job as she would have done anyway. So we started scheduling her on weeks when we’re especially overwhelmed, this way she would get a full day of work out of it and we would get a break when we needed it most.
story 4: I cook every day, and I want to know if my boyfriend doesn’t like it and why. I don’t want to spend hours cooking for him, not to like it… But there is a way you communicate that, very touchy topic lol
My phone froze right at "im trying to type this out neutral and i dont sound like the meanest younger sister ever" 1:09:30 and it just sounded like an exteneded judgemental pause
Uh story 3 is interesting because I was thinking about that recently! Due to problems during pregnancy I have a daily help for household and kids! I wasn’t used to it and in the beginning I really was comforting her all the time, which was kind of stressful too…and to be honest, it’s also strange to feel like a guest in your own house (I hope it’s clear what I am talking about 😂)! That’s why I understand why staff and boss keep some kind of distance….of course, doesn’t mean you can’t be pleasant or say thank you!
Story 1 I think NTA. Girl needed some truth. The runner comment: It`s one thing hat hubby joins her on runs and tries, it. But imaiine he had right away spent hundrets on super expensive running shoes and a running outfit. For op she can join her dude in a game, try some game on her normal laptop. But investing thousands in a new gaming laptop, trying to buy a freaking cobra?
The running story: I wouldn't be able to understand it that much if I didn't have a corporate challenge (for the amount of covered km by foot (running or walking) where some guys just went crazy with competing and putting each other down. The highlight was one guy stopping the challenge a few days ahead and saying he wanted other people to try to win it, while he was anyways about to lose the first place in a couple of hours (which was not a surprise), and writing a condescending message to others. Imagine adult men at higher positions, with big families, who spent a few hours per day after work, every day. I think the runners community can be very competitive, and yes, sometimes greatly motivated by the option to share their success online.
It’s almost 4am here in BFE, Ohio & my azz has a circadian rhythm disorder; so I NEEDED something entertaining to watch while the rest of my household sleeps. Pleasantly surprised to see this uploaded at 3am! 🥰✌🏽
Story 2: Those friends were also jealous as heck of their partnership, cause they had marriages based on begging. Ooh and Story 3: I think the note re: service proves that the GF is projecting, and the family may or may not be decent. He shared a feel and asked for help understanding context, her answer wasn’t “oh here’s the relationship,” it was “WOW I GUESS IM SCUM” and its like “who’s to say”
'Complicated challenges' is such a fitting title because I'm struggling to stay awake to watch this instead of sleeping when I know I have work in 4 few hours. 😢😢😢 i just HAD to check YT before bed huh.
Story 1: it's ok to Discover new hobbies through your partner, but One should also invest time in discovering themselves without anyone else's input. The worst I did was playing entire afternoons at magic the gathering cause my ex was Crazy into It. I don't regret It as I'm quite nerdy myself but he never put the same effort in trying to accomodate me and my hobbies. It was quite sad, we should never settle for someone Who doesn't respect us ✨
11:14 shes not 'exploring' hobbies if shes going all out and wasting her money, and then not even continuing to explore when she breaks up with the person
story #1: NTA and there were a few things that stuck out to me in the story that make me wonder if the friend is possibly dealing with BPD and isn’t aware. always needs to be in a relationship, makes her partner of the moment her entire personality, takes up whatever interest her partner is into, and is willing to spend thousands of dollars rather irrationally on that interest just because their partner is into it. if they are possibly dealing with BPD, i wouldn’t be surprised if the friend was so hurt because they don’t know what their own interests are which can be a hallmark of the disorder. i don’t think the OP is the asshole, but i could see how the friend could be so hurt and reacting harshly if this is potentially what is going on.
nah! we are definitely missing something in the second story. like i need the husband's side of the story. like if this was the first offense even if the husband left immediately there would be some room opened for dialogue... also... dude i would not be able to trust my partner after a prank like this so maybe he just can't come back from this. but i would still have questions though even if afterwards i still leave...
Ill be damned of my husband ever have to tell me he don’t want me twice!!! Once is enough. I might heartbroken but I won’t give up my dignity for them by begging.
Story 1: NTA imo... maybe she said it a bit rude sounding but I believe it came from a place of caring. Story 2: Unfortunately, F*ck around and find out... and as Morgan said, I think husband reacted like this because OP let her friends influence her too much and the husband drew one too many short straws and this "prank" was quite literally the last straw. Actions, no matter how ignorant, have consequences
Lost at sea story: family could still see her & it was approximately an hour later when the CG showed up. OP is NTA. I’d guess the CG members were laughing (on the inside) at the situation too.
Story 4 - NAH I think the opinions for story for story 4 are sooo far fetched 😅😂 sorry love you Morgan! but the boyfriend CLEARLY meant that as a joke. He added little memes etc and the girlfriend said herself that she genuinely enjoys cooking which is probably the reason why he hasn’t learned but we have no context to say that he’s the kind of guy that wouldn’t learn as soon as they had children or to share the workload. Making powerpoints about silly things like that was a big trend on TikTok! especially since 2022 so I believe he definitely meant it as a joke. I don’t think that she’s an asshole for not cooking because she’s just giving back what was given to her but I think bringing up misogyny and divorce about this story is so far-fetched it’s actually quite funny 😅 EDIT - OKAY i commented this before the update !! HOWEVER based on the original post I would stand by my original comment but after listening to the rest he is an AH 😮 MY BAD
As soon as I heard the third story, I was thinking of the worst treatment possible. But to me, it sounded very normal. That is their job. And just like the first comment said it makes them feel like they are not doing a good enough job if their boss or someone that pays them does the work for them.
I may have been waiting up for this episode….. as someone who lives on the opposite side of the country, it is now almost 4am as I type this. I don’t care I am 50 minutes late.
Story nº1 you just ignored that she reacted out of frustration by commenting on something she isn't involved in ... as she say she is her friend so instead of judging her character and insinuating she has no personality (insulting her by the way) she could have just said "oh that's is a great idea having a hobby just for yourself. I heard that hiking, soccer, book clubs, and so on are "cheaper" hobbies. How about you try something that intrest you ?" That is how you talk to your friend and not try to make them look stupid for trying to figure out their life 🤷♀️ (Not to mention that maybe 25k is not an expensive purchase for this friend in particular)
I agree! As someone who struggled with a similar issue my husband helped me understand I needed to create hobbies of my own as its unhealthy to only be focused on a partners interests 100% of the time. BUT that has nothing to do with personality! Super rude to insinuste that about the friend.
The whole testing thing, pushing people away to get more attention, "I wanted you to fight for me" mentally, just has the opposite affect on me. It makes me want to walk away. Don't be playing with people like that. If you want more attention, communicate that.
I have some insight on story #3. I used to have my own cleaning service (nothing fancy just me, an independent maid)
I actually got really frustrated when clients would try to "help" by doing my job.
1. You pay me to do this, let me do it!
2. I had a routine and when clients would do a small part of that routine it would throw off my groove.
3. Unless the client is picking up clutter, I prefer they leave me to do the rest of the cleaning chores.
4. I make the bed a certain way so I'll just remake it. That also goes for most chores, I'll just redo it. Save your energy.
This !!
OP with the divorce prank,he already had one foot out the door,no one in their right mind would file for a divorce after 1 comment!
Maybe he had an affair and it was like, oh caugh. alright bye, or she`s played other stupid pranks on him and he was sick and tired of it
First story: NTA, a good friend would let their friend know that. It’s not healthy to build your entire personality and base your hobbies only on who you’re dating. It shows that she’s very insecure in herself that she relies on a man to know herself.
Second story: fuck around and find out unfortunately.
Third story: NTA. When I went to Thailand I found it so uncomfortable how people jumped to serve us and was always appreciative and tried to lessen their load. If I was with someone who lavished in being served and told me to let them because it’s their job I’d be very uncomfortable. I don’t think you can be the asshole for being put off by people being completely unfazed by being served like royalty. It shows they probably just aren’t compatible long term due to their differences.
Fourth story: NTA, if you can’t cook you can’t give coking advice
Yes! I agree with your take on the first story. And I’ll add that what her friend needs is some time alone. I don’t recall her age but it seems like she never had the time to gain a sense of self. She’s always someone’s friend/daughter/gf & didn’t develop an identity outside of what she can provide to others.
I would advise her not to invest so much too. It’s ok to take part while she’s around her gamer bf but she needs time to sit & think. Maybe create a vision board. Create standards and boundaries. Self love should be paramount.
Second Story is wild! I cannot stand those Tiktok 'test', my boyfriend tried that 'can you make me some tea' one on me, I was not impressed.
I KNEW STAYING UP LATER TONIGHT WOULD PAY OFF!!! refreshed my youtube, saw a new two hot takes episode, and almost woke up my neighbors from my excitement...(and also accidently throwing my laptop across my room...whoops).
Story 3: OP is wrong. I'm poor as f***, but the girlfriend's family didn't treat the staff in an unconventional way. What the guy has a problem with is the family having buttlers in the first place, which is fine, but then he should have just said that. And the girlfriend clocked it because she said he had a problem with their way of life.
I kinda agree up until the bit where the gf complained to her mother about OP making their own coffee without talking to OP first about what happened. That gives me bad vibes honestly.
Story 3: I grew up around servants and even I get uncomfortable sometimes when other’s don’t treat them right.
The issue lies in the details; when someone’s job is to literally take care of your needs it can be difficult to separate their duties from your personal responsibility.
OP is considerate but they should consider the perspective of those servants; they’re attending to the people of the house’s needs, that’s their literal job. So to them, OP means well but is actually interfering with their work.
Even making the bed; my mother always makes her bed in the morning, but our maid remakes it to her standards 😅 she’s just like that, I ask her not clean my room and she does it anyway; it’s like an itch that she has, she likes to have things clean and organised and taken care of.
I love our maid, she’s part of the family, and she knows it. Just because you’re not used to something doesn’t make it wrong, sometimes you just need to be open minded to other lifestyles. 💁🏽♀️
I agree it might be interfering with the jobs. I was a housekeeper and a personal care aid, where I worked in people's homes. I would get a little annoyed when I was supposed to do something as part of my job and a client did it themselves. It made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them. It's so weird because if I gave examples it would seem like the person was being really nice but I took it as a personal attack against my work. Also if you do my work for me, then I have nothing to do and I'm wasting my time.
In my country no one has servants. For many years it was the people here who would be servants for others, either for the colonising class here or by going abroad. I think maybe that's why it's the norm here to help cleaners or waiters etc. and to thank them profusely. When I was a child our teachers would have us clean the classroom at the end of every day and one time our principal said "you may think it's silly to clean this room when someone else is being paid to clean it later - but just because it's their job does not mean that we have to make their job harder". That seems to be the general attitude most people have here. Even if we don't do anything to actively help, people always ask if there's a way they can make someone's job easier - like moving out of the way if someone is hoovering, or moving all the empty plates towards where the waiter is so that they don't have to walk around into narrow corners. That sort of thing.
@@catbearaamen to this!!!!!
i kid you not i just turned your channel on in the first time in months LITERALLY not even 10 mins ago and you upload this at a radom time at night😭😭i just got scared asf, are you watching me morgz????
Maybe...
I totally agree with the verdict on story 3.
My mother works as a cleaner at hotels and when guests "tidy up" or "make their bed", it means nothing to her since she still has to do it anyway. The hotel has their own way of cleaning and making the bed. The guests can't know that because it's not their job to know that.
This man totally interfered with staffs jobs and, not to be dramatic but, belittled their work environment and profession. He's the A.
He was so judge mental of his gfs family AND the workers. As a cleaner I was a little offended ngl 😅
Was literally crawling into bed thinking about sleep then Gurl you post and I guess I’m staying up lol 😆
I paused this video just to check out Michelle’s page and see who she is. I ended up watching a few shorts…and the entire Houdini episode! Almost brought me to tears because you really form a bond with Michelle and are with her for the journey and each struggle. I found a new RUclipsr to watch! Her videos are also extremely informative which is a break from my crazy Reddit drama lol. Thanks Morgan for introducing us!!!
5am and still haven’t gotten to sleep with my 5month old. Morgan entertains us on sleepless nights.
Story 4: I'm a guy with 2 now-grown(ish) daughters -- 18 and 21.
I taught my daughters to cook, clean, sew. I also taught them to use power tools, program computers, do art, and play board games.
I'm both glad I didn't have boys (I'm not a sports guy), but also wish I did to explain that this shit wouldn't fly.
the top comment on story #3 opened my mind to a new dimension. after listening to the story i was like "he needs to leave his gf ASAP because wtf?" but then hearing the different point of view on the situation completely changed my mind...wow. this is why i love this podcast!
never in my LIFE have i been this early for a video!! I’ve been watching your channel for what feels like forever. It keeps me company on my commute to work and when i’m cleaning the house. Thank you for creating a safe space for so many people :)
So happy you're here! We love that we get to keep you company
The end of Story 4 was SO SATISFYING after I thought to myself about how I would make a breakup PowerPoint if I were in that situation.
My wish came true 🥲
okay but in all seriousness....MORGAN IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE TO BE A VOICE ACTOR FOR CALM. her voice is sooo soothing. i could be so anxious and once i listen to an episode i feel so relaxed, just by listening!
Smoke detectors don't just detect smoke. They're more like small particle detectors. Which is why steam, perfume, febreeze, anything sprayed into the air can cause it to set off.
Found that out by blowing my vape directly into one by accident in a hotel😅
Story 7 If he has a job I wonder if he answers work calls at all times, and is jealous that he feels has to answer all his work calls, but she doesn’t. Or maybe he is a boss that calls his employees at all hours and sympathizes with OP’s boss more than her.
I listened this episode on spotify and didnt realize it was THE Michelle !! Love you guuuys😍😍
"The psychology of boy-mons needs to be studied" is the truest statement I heard this week!
Edit: the BF in the last story is definitely trying to sabotage her. Not caring about the consequences in this context IS sabotage!
Omf!!!! Michelle Khare! The very first video I saw of hers was working out like a vs model, so inspirational and real about the entire process. Love your whole energy!
I have been following Michelle since her buzzfeed days! I am living for this colab!!!! ❤
story 2 is wild. damn you can’t joke about divorce
Story 2- call me naive but I don't understand the husband's reaction?? why wouldn't you want to talk about it, try counselling, etc... it doesn't even sound like he asked 'are you sure?' or 'can we talk about this?' or anything. It almost seems like he wanted out and OP gave him the perfect excuse (not saying that's the case though). Yes OP was an ass for the 'prank' but something about the husband's reaction doesn't sit right with me.
Have you ever had a partner or known a couple where one of them uses the threat of breaking up whenever there’s any sort of conflict? That can cause people to set a hard line when it comes to that. And she keeps saying it’s a joke, but also that her and her friends were using it to make their partners more attentive, so not really a joke, but a threat. I can see where he would instantly make up his mind, because if you continue on, then what’s to stop her from doing it again in the future? I personally don’t think I could ever trust someone who did that again.
I agree with you that was HUGE overreaction on his side. Yeah "prank" was stupid, but he instantly leaving, refusing to have even SINGLE conversation, shortly after that sending divorce papers - all of that feels like he already wanted divorce, or at least was thinking about it. Wh. he seen their relationship as broken in way before that, or he found some else, or he have some crazy deep-rooted issues and insecurities i dont know.
Story 2: im thinking if everything was actually going well, this could be a hard boundary for him. As in no matter how good the relationship if, he is not willing to bet his life on someone anymore after those words leave their mouth. Which I agree with honestly because I could never feel safe with someone after they said that and even if it was a joke I wouldnt want to be with someone who sees our marriage as the punchline of a joke.
Edit: this kind of sounds like the reaction of a traumatized person. I might be projecting too but since I have PTSD and severe trust issues, someone could go from a trustworthy person who cares about me to untrustworthy and unpredictable in a split second. And for me at least at that point, my mind wound start to wander. Would they hurt me physically too? Can i sleep next to this person? Can i eat anything they made me ever again? Would they light the house on fire and record me as im crying to get a cheap laugh?
Controversial I think the story 3 has no assholes. I totally understand why someone would be uncomfortable being served if they’re not used to it, I certainly would be, but the examples he gave of the mistreatment truly didn’t seem that bad to me. Maybe I’m granted them too much Grace and assuming their tone wasn’t rude/demeaning, but “oh you don’t have to clean, that’s her job” …it is, she’s being paid to do that. Plus, she presumably knows the routine in the house, much like how you’d do your own cleaning after a guest leaves even if they technically clean up after themselves. The only one I could see being bad is the coffee situation, but at the same time, if you paid someone to do a service and then saw them not doing a service, i don’t think it’s wrong to bring it up. Bratty on her part, sure, but considering it sounds like the family spoke to him before the chefs, i just don’t see anything wrong on their part. Again, though, this is assuming their tone wasn’t outwardly rude, which op doesn’t make it sound like it was, more casual, which can be expected if this is the lifestyle they’re used to but he’s not
I completely agree, it depends on the tone.
Cause as long as the staff is only doing stuff they've agreed on and not expected to do more than on the contract, it's okay.
And you can still do kind things within that agreement like, not leaving trash everywhere or maybe removing bedsheets when they need washing. Or make your own coffee when they're busy cooking.
And being kind to people makes them better employees. As a former hotel maid I really appreciated small things people did to make my job easier.
But saying it's part of their job isn't rude or unkind either.
Agreed, it would be uncomfortable for me as well, but from story I did not really see poor threatment described.
Lets go!! I've been refreshing the channel all day waiting for this one 🙌😂
Story 1 I 100% say NTA. I personally love gaming and I’ve been doing it for the past 18 years of my life. Even I’M not about to drop that much on a gaming computer. I don’t think dropping that much money on a hobby you don’t even know if you like is responsible and I’d be concerned if one of my friends made that decision too.
This guest was delightful! Please have her back!
It’s 11:26 am in my country and I thought that’s an interesting time to upload and remembered you’re American lol
It's 1:29 where I am lol also kind of interesting
Story 3: AH. It doesn’t sound like the family was rude to the staff, it sounds like he just didn’t like that they had staff. If he keeps doing their jobs then why do the staff need to be there. Maybe I missed where the family yelled or berated the staff🤔
Morgan what are you doing?! Video up only 4 hours and already over 100 comments. Keep killing it queen 👸🏼 🎉❤
I think i will be the only one with this take on story 2, but if i pulled this joke on my husband, he would never believe me and i would break a laugh before convincing him.. I think the husband was already waiting for a signal because no one walks away like this so fast. I think it depends on the couple if the joke can be funny or not.
Late night upload is very comforting, thank you
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you just knew when i was about to shower and needed something to keep the shower thoughts at bay! thanks morgan 🙂↕️
Good morning. I love Morgan and the whole gang !!!
For me the beach house story is like when they tell you not to make your own bed at a hotel, because the staff is going to have to remake it anyway. As someone who has both worked in service and lived in a house with a housekeeper, the one red flag I see is the girlfriend complaining to her parents about the cooks. But for example I have rented a place where the landlord paid for someone to come deep clean the house every other month, and at first we would really try to clean and tidy the place as much as possible the day before the cleaning lady came. Then we realized that by doing that not only were we unknowingly cutting her hours, but we weren’t doing as good a job as she would have done anyway. So we started scheduling her on weeks when we’re especially overwhelmed, this way she would get a full day of work out of it and we would get a break when we needed it most.
I think I just fell in love with Michelle 😍 I like her input and vibe! Love this episode!
hi from Ukraine 😍🇺🇦 just so you know I LOVE watching your show, you're the BEST
YES so excited to watch this in the morning, I was wondering if you'd post today !
just a wee bit behind because of live shows and bad wifi but we here!!!! whooooo
story 4: I cook every day, and I want to know if my boyfriend doesn’t like it and why. I don’t want to spend hours cooking for him, not to like it… But there is a way you communicate that, very touchy topic lol
My phone froze right at "im trying to type this out neutral and i dont sound like the meanest younger sister ever" 1:09:30 and it just sounded like an exteneded judgemental pause
Aussie here and i always cook dinner to your videos so this was great.
🥰 your videos bring me joy genuinely. Ty for existing and making my life just a lil bit brighter!
s2: listening to it...if he didnt even fight for you, either he was planning on breaking up OR he already had someone else.... (could be both)
Omg this is the crossover I never knew I needed until now. 🤩 two of my favorites
Finally I’m watching this on time not days or weeks later! Love this podcast! ❤
Uh story 3 is interesting because I was thinking about that recently! Due to problems during pregnancy I have a daily help for household and kids! I wasn’t used to it and in the beginning I really was comforting her all the time, which was kind of stressful too…and to be honest, it’s also strange to feel like a guest in your own house (I hope it’s clear what I am talking about 😂)!
That’s why I understand why staff and boss keep some kind of distance….of course, doesn’t mean you can’t be pleasant or say thank you!
Story 1 I think NTA. Girl needed some truth. The runner comment: It`s one thing hat hubby joins her on runs and tries, it. But imaiine he had right away spent hundrets on super expensive running shoes and a running outfit. For op she can join her dude in a game, try some game on her normal laptop. But investing thousands in a new gaming laptop, trying to buy a freaking cobra?
Making a late night wake up with my baby sooo much more entertaining 😁💓
The running story: I wouldn't be able to understand it that much if I didn't have a corporate challenge (for the amount of covered km by foot (running or walking) where some guys just went crazy with competing and putting each other down. The highlight was one guy stopping the challenge a few days ahead and saying he wanted other people to try to win it, while he was anyways about to lose the first place in a couple of hours (which was not a surprise), and writing a condescending message to others. Imagine adult men at higher positions, with big families, who spent a few hours per day after work, every day.
I think the runners community can be very competitive, and yes, sometimes greatly motivated by the option to share their success online.
Its my birthday as of midnight and i cant sleep so thank you this is exactly what i need to watch while I smoke to to get extra sleepy 🥰
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! whoohooo
@TwoHotTakes aaaah! I was so locked into the ep I didnt even see THE Morgan of the THT podcast replied 🥰 perfect start to the day, thank you 😁🍰
We have to get you one of those like big red buttons that you can dramatically press that just says "THERAPY!"
OMG THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGGG
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
It’s almost 4am here in BFE, Ohio & my azz has a circadian rhythm disorder; so I NEEDED something entertaining to watch while the rest of my household sleeps. Pleasantly surprised to see this uploaded at 3am! 🥰✌🏽
Story 2: Those friends were also jealous as heck of their partnership, cause they had marriages based on begging. Ooh and Story 3: I think the note re: service proves that the GF is projecting, and the family may or may not be decent. He shared a feel and asked for help understanding context, her answer wasn’t “oh here’s the relationship,” it was “WOW I GUESS IM SCUM” and its like “who’s to say”
I knew i had just heard the 4th story from somewhere i just heard it over at midwest married, loving all the diff takes 🩷
'Complicated challenges' is such a fitting title because I'm struggling to stay awake to watch this instead of sleeping when I know I have work in 4 few hours. 😢😢😢 i just HAD to check YT before bed huh.
Michelke "FREAKIN" Khare👀🔥🔥🔥❓❓are you forreal❤️#Wonderwoman
Story 1: it's ok to Discover new hobbies through your partner, but One should also invest time in discovering themselves without anyone else's input. The worst I did was playing entire afternoons at magic the gathering cause my ex was Crazy into It. I don't regret It as I'm quite nerdy myself but he never put the same effort in trying to accomodate me and my hobbies. It was quite sad, we should never settle for someone Who doesn't respect us ✨
Okay now l'm gonna go get ready for worK AGAIN
I never catch you so early hopefully I don't get frustrated by these stories. Your podcast is my daily dose of drama 🤭🥸
11:14 shes not 'exploring' hobbies if shes going all out and wasting her money, and then not even continuing to explore when she breaks up with the person
Thanks for being you, Morgan!
Thanks for being you and being here with us
Oh my goodness Morgan, 2 am! 😅 I just happened to be up late tonight, and no I can’t go to sleep!
story #1: NTA and there were a few things that stuck out to me in the story that make me wonder if the friend is possibly dealing with BPD and isn’t aware. always needs to be in a relationship, makes her partner of the moment her entire personality, takes up whatever interest her partner is into, and is willing to spend thousands of dollars rather irrationally on that interest just because their partner is into it. if they are possibly dealing with BPD, i wouldn’t be surprised if the friend was so hurt because they don’t know what their own interests are which can be a hallmark of the disorder. i don’t think the OP is the asshole, but i could see how the friend could be so hurt and reacting harshly if this is potentially what is going on.
49 minutes ago!? It’s 4 AM, I work overnight, my shift has been MADE! 🎉
It is 09:39 am in germany and i am happy
nah! we are definitely missing something in the second story. like i need the husband's side of the story. like if this was the first offense even if the husband left immediately there would be some room opened for dialogue...
also... dude i would not be able to trust my partner after a prank like this so maybe he just can't come back from this. but i would still have questions though even if afterwards i still leave...
Refusing to have even SINGLE conversation seem crazy to me.
Finallyyyy!
Love waking up to this 😻
Ill be damned of my husband ever have to tell me he don’t want me twice!!! Once is enough. I might heartbroken but I won’t give up my dignity for them by begging.
omg first time i tuned in within 3 mins of the vid posting 😮🎉😂
Have a wonderful day everyone!
Story 2 is getting me and I am with Michelle…there is more going on 😢
This is perfect my gf was getting sleepy at work. Brb gonna send her this rn LOL
Noooooo wayyy! My two fav peopleee!!!! EEEEEEEKKKK
AHHHHHH DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO SLEEP NOW
Im so excited
Story 1: NTA imo... maybe she said it a bit rude sounding but I believe it came from a place of caring.
Story 2: Unfortunately, F*ck around and find out... and as Morgan said, I think husband reacted like this because OP let her friends influence her too much and the husband drew one too many short straws and this "prank" was quite literally the last straw. Actions, no matter how ignorant, have consequences
Story 2 - HOW IS THAT A JOKE?? 🤔 🤔 🤔
Lost at sea story: family could still see her & it was approximately an hour later when the CG showed up. OP is NTA. I’d guess the CG members were laughing (on the inside) at the situation too.
Story 4 - NAH I think the opinions for story for story 4 are sooo far fetched 😅😂 sorry love you Morgan! but the boyfriend CLEARLY meant that as a joke. He added little memes etc and the girlfriend said herself that she genuinely enjoys cooking which is probably the reason why he hasn’t learned but we have no context to say that he’s the kind of guy that wouldn’t learn as soon as they had children or to share the workload. Making powerpoints about silly things like that was a big trend on TikTok! especially since 2022 so I believe he definitely meant it as a joke. I don’t think that she’s an asshole for not cooking because she’s just giving back what was given to her but I think bringing up misogyny and divorce about this story is so far-fetched it’s actually quite funny 😅
EDIT - OKAY i commented this before the update !! HOWEVER based on the original post I would stand by my original comment but after listening to the rest he is an AH 😮 MY BAD
As soon as I heard the third story, I was thinking of the worst treatment possible. But to me, it sounded very normal. That is their job. And just like the first comment said it makes them feel like they are not doing a good enough job if their boss or someone that pays them does the work for them.
I may have been waiting up for this episode….. as someone who lives on the opposite side of the country, it is now almost 4am as I type this. I don’t care I am 50 minutes late.
Story 2 -
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Yes I love the podcast I look forward to new topics and the guests🫶💗
1:28 she wants no one else to take part in running so she is the only one and that's how she will win :P
Hey, at least there was a reason I couldn't sleep
Ahhh it’s out 😫
Wow you're posting these late 😂
Story nº1 you just ignored that she reacted out of frustration by commenting on something she isn't involved in ... as she say she is her friend so instead of judging her character and insinuating she has no personality (insulting her by the way) she could have just said "oh that's is a great idea having a hobby just for yourself. I heard that hiking, soccer, book clubs, and so on are "cheaper" hobbies. How about you try something that intrest you ?"
That is how you talk to your friend and not try to make them look stupid for trying to figure out their life 🤷♀️
(Not to mention that maybe 25k is not an expensive purchase for this friend in particular)
I agree! As someone who struggled with a similar issue my husband helped me understand I needed to create hobbies of my own as its unhealthy to only be focused on a partners interests 100% of the time. BUT that has nothing to do with personality! Super rude to insinuste that about the friend.
Slide 3: How to fix a broken laptop.
WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE?!?!
Aww, No cat tax!? 😢🐈⬛️🐈😿😢💔
OH GOD MICHELLE
I love Michelle Khare
The whole testing thing, pushing people away to get more attention, "I wanted you to fight for me" mentally, just has the opposite affect on me. It makes me want to walk away. Don't be playing with people like that. If you want more attention, communicate that.