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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • Been a couple days since I provided a vid, so I decided I'd just upload this one.
    Lyn takes on Link Arena teams I made from my first and seconds plays of this game. It's the same Lyn from my solo game, in case you were wondering.
    Shin Onigashima - SSBB

Комментарии • 177

  • @ctchimchar5258
    @ctchimchar5258 9 месяцев назад +20

    Ah RUclips recommending something that's 14 years, it's really putting in the work isn't iy

  • @cappuccinogoodfinger
    @cappuccinogoodfinger 5 лет назад +75

    I like Lyn, her battle animations just scream badass. Imagine if they givr her that 15% crit bonus.

    • @tehmaimed
      @tehmaimed 3 года назад +17

      She should have, tbh. Eliwood got horses and Hector got armored status. Lyn should have gotten the Swordmaster crit bonus on promotion to make things even

    • @letsrank9349
      @letsrank9349 3 года назад +5

      Did Lyn get anything after promoting?
      Besides Bow usage that is.

    • @tehmaimed
      @tehmaimed 3 года назад +7

      @@letsrank9349 nothing really I don’t think. Perhaps a small crit bonus but I think it has more to do with enemies post promotion chapter having 0 luck while she has a lot of luck. She does have the best prf weapon though at least

    • @cappuccinogoodfinger
      @cappuccinogoodfinger 3 года назад +4

      @@letsrank9349 Cool animation... I guess ?

    • @kurosan0079
      @kurosan0079 3 года назад +2

      @@cappuccinogoodfinger That's why I use her even though she's bad, tbh. Would've been cooler if they gave her some bonus crit though. They modeled her after the myrmidon/swordmaster class, after all.

  • @charsage1036
    @charsage1036 10 месяцев назад +10

    It's funny to look at all the old comments It's just interesting to see how much ideas have changed over time as people learned more over time and realized what's more important on what makes a good unit.

  • @endeavorrattata7839
    @endeavorrattata7839 6 лет назад +81

    I bet Lyn still has 9 strength haha.

    • @diogobale1009
      @diogobale1009 6 лет назад +5

      ?** My Lyn gets 11 strength level 20 promoted ahahaha

    • @Jonathankiller100
      @Jonathankiller100 5 лет назад +1

      Mine capped strength before reaching level 20

    • @projectember728
      @projectember728 3 года назад +2

      @@Jonathankiller100 my lyn had lower speed than eliwood and hector yet had higher strength than eliwood

    • @Jonathankiller100
      @Jonathankiller100 3 года назад +5

      @@projectember728 Now that's whack

    • @projectember728
      @projectember728 3 года назад +1

      @@Jonathankiller100 also hector capped res and strength he also got 22 speed so he could double the dragon

  • @ShadowdaHedgie11
    @ShadowdaHedgie11 12 лет назад +12

    Eliwood would have a tough time hitting Lyn, unless she was wielding the Sol Katti (and why would she be doing that?) and he was wielding one of the most accurate weapons.

  • @nicklemay8056
    @nicklemay8056 9 лет назад +11

    Holy fuck that first match was clutch as fuck

  • @jonathann.5754
    @jonathann.5754 7 лет назад +38

    You had some serious RNG luck tho

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 6 лет назад +4

      Jonathan Nulens
      If you want to play Karel or Lyn solo.
      You need RNG Luck.

  • @EXHellfire
    @EXHellfire 10 лет назад +53

    Lyn is my favorite of all lords so far. People value strength stats too much.

    • @EXHellfire
      @EXHellfire 9 лет назад +5

      I hadn't played Awakening when I said that. Now I have, and I still think Lyn's the best lord lmao

    • @Damianweibler
      @Damianweibler 9 лет назад +7

      +φ First-order logic She doesn't even get a legendary weapon and she still owns, from the moment she classes up she shines like the sun

    • @EXHellfire
      @EXHellfire 9 лет назад +12

      John Weibler The Sol Katti and Manni Katti aren't legendary weapons?

    • @17Master
      @17Master  9 лет назад +16

      +φ First-order logic Mani Katti is a sword of Sacaen legend, just not a Dragon slaying Divine Weapon like Durundal or Armads. Sol Katti is the sister sword to Mani Katti, which would make it a sword of legend as well. So, technically, they are legendary weapon, just not Divine Weapons.

    • @EXHellfire
      @EXHellfire 9 лет назад

      You said legendary :v

  • @Nightmarefuel609
    @Nightmarefuel609 3 года назад +2

    Lyn: Call the ambulance! Call the ambulance! But not for me!

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад +10

    And Lyndis is consinderd "The worst Lord" or "Just a filler Lord" in FE7 because...?
    I find myself using her a LOT more than the OH so great Hector, consindering she's fast like hell.
    Nice battles, too.

    • @charsage1036
      @charsage1036 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's always funny to see some of old ideas people had at least they got the worst lord part right.

    • @yellowthere3985
      @yellowthere3985 9 месяцев назад

      @@charsage1036 yeah, the only reason lyn is winning here is because she was given crazy statboosters and is in the link arena, an environment where speed is much more important than other stats.

  • @ZenaidaZeal
    @ZenaidaZeal 15 лет назад +1

    lol the name of it is Shin Onigashima. Kinda late lol

  • @ShadowdaHedgie11
    @ShadowdaHedgie11 12 лет назад +13

    I honestly doubt Eliwood would have a chance against Lyn ever. Even if Lyn had an iron sword and Eliwood had a silver.

    • @TheAvalanchilator
      @TheAvalanchilator 6 лет назад +8

      Cobalt that's just blatant favoritism. They've both got pretty good chances against each other but when promoted eliwood's got lances which overpowers lyns sword and matches her bow.

  • @17Master
    @17Master  12 лет назад +5

    If by "original" you mean "the first one released to the West" then yes.

  • @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562
    @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562 10 лет назад +20

    Max leveling Hector and Lyndis really pays off in the long run. I can't say the same for shittywood. Man even though I offered him blood sweat and tears to the max him he still dies against normal units. Like what the fuck? Lyn at least dodge/crit/double everything. Hector steam rolls everything in his path. What does Eliwood do that benefit the player really? JACK SHIT! Is the answer

    • @bman40832
      @bman40832 9 лет назад +1

      He's better than roy

    • @Km-qo6ex
      @Km-qo6ex 9 лет назад +1

      Actually Eliwood is my favorite lord why?Because of his balanced stats Lyn may be fast but Eliwood is fast too.She lacks strenght and con.Hector may annihilate every enemy in the game but low skill + low primary weapon accuracy = low hit.

    • @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562
      @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562 9 лет назад +2

      km tabs A maxed Eliwood even on horse is still inferior to any paladin. So how does he serve any purpose on the battlefield exactly? A Balanced unit is quite boring and useless innit? What a Maxed Paladin does in 1 or 2 hits takes him 5 to 6 hits. How is that useful? Eliwood hardly ever crit or does special moves. He can't even move at the same length as a paladin or even a normal Cavalier .

    • @Km-qo6ex
      @Km-qo6ex 9 лет назад +1

      Max Eliwood? You mean all capped stats? Really?
      Eliwood:
      HP:60:
      Str:27
      Skl:26
      Spd:24
      Lck:30
      Def:23
      Res:25
      Con:25
      Paladin:
      HP:60
      Str:25 (M) 23 (F)
      Skl:26 (M) 27 (F)
      Spd:24 (M) 25 (F)
      Lck:30
      Def:25 (M) 24 (F)
      Res:25 (M) 26 (F)
      As you can see Eliwood is sacrificing a bit of defense for a bit more attack.Move?What do you need that for? Running away?

    • @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562
      @itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562 9 лет назад

      km tabs Even with that attack power he can't use the more advanced weapons which renders him absolutely useless. FYI My capped Eliwood only had half of those stats. Even with boost items he couldn't manage by without a heavy duty unit like a General or Warrior. Move to save either vulnerable units or get faster to a fight what else?

  • @irtijaadib42069
    @irtijaadib42069 5 лет назад +2

    Damn it. Lyn is such a flipflop. One run her strength is like 8-10 in lvl 20/20.
    In another she caps strength, skill, speed and luck before victory or death.

    • @17Master
      @17Master  5 лет назад

      The curse of a 40% Strength growth.

    • @charsage1036
      @charsage1036 10 месяцев назад

      40% growth is just about perfect for getting rng blessed,screwed or just leveled up normally you really never know what you get with 40% growths

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад

    The Marth game is released in Europe. It's released 18th february in USA.
    As for the Roy game, it isn't released outside Japan (or got a remake yet).

  • @JamGameRoom
    @JamGameRoom 12 лет назад +5

    that's debatable. Hector has more balanced stats, and can take more hits later in the game

    • @yellowthere3985
      @yellowthere3985 9 месяцев назад

      well yes, but this is in the link arena, where speed is much more important than most other aspects of a character. hector is better in maingame but in pvp lyn has an edge over him. (also a major reason she won here is because she was seemingly given a load of stat boosters while no one else was.)

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад

    No, it's just released outside of Japan. It's released in Europe before USA.

  • @butteredsalmonella
    @butteredsalmonella 6 лет назад

    What does LA stands for? Immediately thought of "Love Abounds" from FeH but this was 2008, more importantly there was Heath in it.

    • @17Master
      @17Master  6 лет назад

      Link Arena. Multiplayer feature for the GBA games.

  • @ShadowdaHedgie11
    @ShadowdaHedgie11 12 лет назад +2

    If only Lyn had ended with a Sol Katti crit.

  • @JuukaRock
    @JuukaRock 15 лет назад +3

    Holy crap, she killed Oswin!
    This proves it. Lyn has no equal or superior.

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад

    Yeah, it is.
    It's released in USA in February so I suppose sometime around then.

  • @owie34
    @owie34 15 лет назад

    Where did you get this ROM? I've been looking for a while and I can't seem to find a virus-free site to download it from.

  • @jordyfernandez337
    @jordyfernandez337 3 года назад

    Hey bro can u tell me the name of this song

  • @ScaredyLuigi
    @ScaredyLuigi 15 лет назад +3

    Whoa...nice.
    I thought Lyn would never beat Osw1n.

  • @superlucci
    @superlucci 13 лет назад

    @17Master I have never done this personally. So I dont know if its the computer your playing against or another player.
    But common sense would say that if somebody is going to be attacking your Lyn, it would be the person who has the highest chance to hit her, not somebody like Hector who had a 20-something hit chance.
    But once again, I dont know if this is the computer we are talking about, you playing against yourself, or another person in general

  • @bluejjay
    @bluejjay 8 лет назад +4

    Goddamnit Eliwood

  • @johannesweber8835
    @johannesweber8835 9 месяцев назад

    Was hoping for Hector to say f it and whip out that Swordreaver

  • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
    @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 6 лет назад +6

    Out of all Axe users, only Hector can hit Lyn.

    • @voltron77
      @voltron77 11 месяцев назад

      Nah hector has shit skill

  • @luisxindria
    @luisxindria 8 лет назад +1

    LA: you have one job, ONE JOB

  • @Sofakingbeastn
    @Sofakingbeastn 13 лет назад +1

    ...and this is why Lyn is my favorite lord in any FE.

  • @abc2390986
    @abc2390986 6 лет назад

    Is this a base stat Eliwood?

  • @faroskrue
    @faroskrue 13 лет назад

    what is name the song?

  • @emishimaru-sama6449
    @emishimaru-sama6449 6 лет назад +2

    As a FE Shadow Dragon player [for the DS]... I love these sprite animations, especially the critical hits. This Is too much to contemplate :0

    • @animock3051
      @animock3051 5 лет назад +5

      That entire first sentence was unnecessary

    • @SaulKada
      @SaulKada 4 года назад

      @@animock3051 And so is your comment

  • @theastrawolf217
    @theastrawolf217 8 лет назад +4

    I call Hax

  • @superlucci
    @superlucci 13 лет назад

    I dont get it. Why would you let the people who are going to miss be the ones to attack and not be the ones tot ake Lyns hits

  • @clankb2o5
    @clankb2o5 13 лет назад +1

    thats slightly unfair, giving erk and eliwood the heaviest weapons. and, im sure eliwood wouldve destroyed her with ther regal blade

  • @hidjedewitje
    @hidjedewitje 15 лет назад

    where can i find patch xd

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад

    Yeah, you can always hope.
    Hope is the last that leaves man, anyway.
    Sadly, I dunno when it's released in Canada. Sorry!

  • @doomdoomdoo
    @doomdoomdoo 14 лет назад

    did u give them all 0 skill, supports, luck, and no sword slayers lol?

  • @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet
    @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet 14 лет назад

    I think the Oswinator is pretty pissed off at this result..

  • @Aquasition1
    @Aquasition1 12 лет назад

    something's wrong if hector's not wielding a swordslayer.

  • @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
    @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 7 лет назад +21

    Lyn's an example of a risk reward Lord done wrong.Everything she does,Rath and Guy do much better and,even after promoting,she's pretty inconsistent due to her 40% STR growth with can pretty much ruin her crit utility(a crit utility that,all on it's own,even fucking Karla does better then due to her innate crit).Personally I like Lyn.She's fun to use but it's pretty much the same as Ayra: You'd be kidding yourself if you thought she was objectively good as a Lord.

    • @17Master
      @17Master  7 лет назад +2

      Not that Rath and Guy are without their own issues. Rath (re)joins really late, and Guy has a weaker Strength growth than Lyn. If you think 40% is bad, does 30% sound?

    • @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
      @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 7 лет назад +1

      Oh,I'm so glad you bring up growth rates into this cause,taking everything into account,they're borderline pointless.
      Guy has a lower STR growth,I will concede that,but you seem to forget literally everything else.Guy starts out with not only a better base stat but also has gains that circumvent this problem,allowing him to do modest damage to even Generals(which,in Swordmaster crit language,means fucking them up).I still think that's trash but anyone who has ever payed attention to debates like Priscilla V Serra(which,even without the pony,still ends in Priscilla's favor).And,as for Rath,he can catch up thanks to the abundance of Wyvern units and strong bows like the Killer Bow and more utility based bows like the Longbow to pick off units more safely.
      Taking that all into account,the two still manage to beat Lyn.

    • @17Master
      @17Master  7 лет назад +3

      Guy has a base Strength of 6. While better than Lyn's 4, it is by very little. Neither is winning awards for Attack power, that much I hope we can agree on. Their other stats are pretty similar. Both have blazing Speed and ridiculously high Skill. Both die if you look at them funny. Since you mention Generals, Lyn has a signature weapon for getting around their high Defense (and it has high crit!), while Guy is stuck the Armorslayer cutting into his Speed/Avoid if he wants to do the same. Without relying on critical hits, Lyn deals with them better. Factoring critical hits, Mani Katti's 25 Crit beats out Guy's +15, so Lyn is more reliable, though I would be hesitant to use either of them against a Lance wielding General, which, if memory serves, very few use Axes. They two are pretty even unless we are talking about HHM, in which Guy gets a lot of a stat boosts that put him over pretty well.
      As for Rath, sweet, he shoots down one Wyvern, then gets jumped by them on the enemy phase unless the player is actively shielding him because Wyvern enemies tend to come at you in groups. Then the others are killed by your other team members, so Rath never really catches up. While Lyn does not do well against Wyvern enemies due to Lances, at least she can fight them and most other enemies if they attack her first. Rath is a sitting duck. I would not put him above Lyn, at all.

    • @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
      @mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 7 лет назад

      I will admit that the Mani Katti is a potent PRF weapon but it's extremely unviable for the most part due to it's overall usability.Most players in the end would barely even use it while Guy,over there,can just spam Killing Edges and have the exact same effect.It doesn't take a lot of strength for a Killing Edge Swordmaster to shred enemy generals and,most of the time,even regular swords do better even without crits(provided he has support range but that's not really an actual method considering Lyn has that too).And,if you take into consideration the fact that Guy can,usually,tank slightly more then Lyn physically,he does have more on his side to deal with enemies like Generals and Paladins.Either way,both _are_ pretty trash in HHM,so you're right.
      I can understand where you're coming from on this so I can concede that he does take way too much time due to nonexistent weaponry but I have forgotten to mention how everything else helps(for that,I do apologize).He can wreck the mages in Kishuna's chapter easily thanks to Kishuna himself and,on average,can gain enough levels to show his stuff in the team(won't lie that he still has trash enemy phase capacity but so does paperbag with hot legs).Even an early promoted Rath can provide a lot of potency thanks to the combination of his okay bases and decent gains and,upon gaining swords,can do really well on enemy phase with his meh bulk and amazing offense.

    • @17Master
      @17Master  7 лет назад +2

      I can agree with those points.

  • @armandocalleta3710
    @armandocalleta3710 3 года назад

    Dude shoulda given Heath the Delphi Shield

  • @GutsOfRivia
    @GutsOfRivia 11 лет назад +3

    hector with swordslayer will mop the floor with her...i love lyn...but hector is broken maybe as broken as ike in his game...but my fav is the underappreciated raven

  • @George_Gogo01
    @George_Gogo01 8 лет назад +3

    BACK_SLASH!

  • @hidjedewitje
    @hidjedewitje 15 лет назад

    can you sent a link for me? tyvm =D

  • @gotmilk311
    @gotmilk311 12 лет назад

    thought it was lyn vs. the lakers or clippers or something...

  • @gorgonzillawithchez
    @gorgonzillawithchez 12 лет назад

    does the word BAMF sound werid 2 u?

  • @17Master
    @17Master  12 лет назад

    @IvoryAngel6 Damn right.

  • @sonicking0
    @sonicking0 5 лет назад

    So she got RNG blessed. Lyn is still a shit unit. That will never change.

  • @redeyenomore
    @redeyenomore 11 месяцев назад

    .....lyn can use a bow....?????

    • @17Master
      @17Master  11 месяцев назад

      In her promoted class, yes.

  • @xAzuan
    @xAzuan 11 лет назад +1

    Elk wood is not that weak :c

  • @Overlord277
    @Overlord277 5 лет назад

    Max out Eliwood and Hector like you did Lyn.

  • @clankb2o5
    @clankb2o5 12 лет назад

    But he had no chance to use it :|

  • @squirtkdd7980
    @squirtkdd7980 8 лет назад

    What is the name of the song?

  • @GutsOfRivia
    @GutsOfRivia 10 лет назад +4

    I prefer raven and karel over any of the Lords honestly I wish the gba games had a Lord based off the hero class :/

    • @kevinthextreme1
      @kevinthextreme1 8 лет назад

      You have Ike tho :/

    • @GutsOfRivia
      @GutsOfRivia 8 лет назад

      Kevin Li yea but im saying for the GBA titles. i mean the blade lord class was in two games scared stones and reka no ken....tho i think blade lord is just a crappy swordmaster that gets a bow instead of the massive crit chance

    • @kevinthextreme1
      @kevinthextreme1 8 лет назад

      Yeah I think so too, but the thing is the game basically forces you to use lyn, and I want to use guy/karel but I want all my type of mages and two fliers (I didn't have room for oswin RIP)

    • @GutsOfRivia
      @GutsOfRivia 8 лет назад

      Kevin Li tbh all lord characters in gba are meh except hector and empriham

    • @kevinthextreme1
      @kevinthextreme1 8 лет назад

      Definitely, but the worst was definitely roy, who had worse growths, bad movement, and just a really awesome weapon with 20 uses to make up for it.

  • @ZenaidaZeal
    @ZenaidaZeal 15 лет назад

    I like the music ^^

  • @clankb2o5
    @clankb2o5 13 лет назад

    @17Master er... perhaps

  • @Aquasition1
    @Aquasition1 12 лет назад

    and uberspear oswin

  • @Kainmaster
    @Kainmaster 15 лет назад

    I don't consinder her a filler at all.
    As for Roy, he isn't the worst, actually. Marth is, no doubt the worst.
    He starts with 0 Res and his Res growth rate is only 15%. Add the fact he can't promote either, but he got a max level of 30 instead.

  • @Mr1game2and3watch
    @Mr1game2and3watch 14 лет назад +1

    damn straight lyn is the best lord in this game!!! nice battles dude

  • @gabrielbitencourt1879
    @gabrielbitencourt1879 Год назад

    And people have the courage to say Lyn is the worst lord. It pisses me of. She is amazing

    • @Uri433
      @Uri433 Год назад +1

      Using link arena to justify a unit's worth is incredibly braindead. Lyn IS the worst lord in her game, she's cool sure but she's still the worst.
      If you play anything other than lyn mode you realize just how bad she is when you can't just feed her kills for 10 chapters (and even then she's still worse than eliwood or hector lol), but feel free to share your reasons as to why you don't think she's the worst lord

    • @gabrielbitencourt1879
      @gabrielbitencourt1879 Год назад

      @@Uri433 in short, Lyn doubles everthing, is always close or in the 100% hit chance and dodge things reliable. Hector can be better than her but there is no way she is worse than eliwood

    • @Uri433
      @Uri433 Год назад +4

      @@gabrielbitencourt1879 What a terrible argument. First of all, on anything besides lyn mode her speed isn't that amazing. She has 11 base which is good sure but her issue is base 5 str. She'll be doubling often but doing no damage, while constantly being in danger of dying because she has 18 hp and nonexisten defenses.
      She's locked to swords which is terrible, and the same argument could be applied to eliwood except he gets lances on promotion and a horse which is invaluable. Vs lyn who gets bows lol. Not to mention eliwood actually has some semblance of durability and he has better avilability (once again on anything that's not lyn mode)
      Lastly you NEED to babysit lyn outside of lyn mode because she's just a walking liability.
      And the worst of all is that even in the best case scenario where you're playing lyn mode (which is a terribly easy mode to begin with so unit worth isn't nearly as relevant there) she'll still be worse than both eliwood and hector because she'll still be super fragile, she won't have a mount and she'll be locked to the worst weapons in the game.
      This was long and I know but once again feel free to refute this. Also in case you want to bring up that her defenses don't matter because she's a "dodge tank" you can't reliably throw her out to face tank anything that's not axes, her avoid really isn't that great even if it obviously is higher than the other 2 lords

  • @ErossMcCloud
    @ErossMcCloud 3 года назад

    got way too lucky

  • @17Master
    @17Master  12 лет назад

    @gotmilk311 Lulzor

  • @17Master
    @17Master  12 лет назад

    Not really.

  • @faroskrue
    @faroskrue 13 лет назад

    daah sorry thanks

  • @albertoscartencarnacionnun2148
    @albertoscartencarnacionnun2148 8 лет назад

    O_O

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
    @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 5 лет назад

    and people say she is trash lol

    • @rip3
      @rip3 5 лет назад +5

      -she is-

    • @sonicking0
      @sonicking0 5 лет назад

      Lady Caeda she got RNG blessed. She’s debatably the worst lord in FE.

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 5 лет назад

      Uh no eliwood much worst... 2nd Ross is even worst cause all he gets is str and hp and yet he is more popular than lyn? And heck guy has lower str growth and yet people like him lol

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 5 лет назад

      Also I had seen a video of ameilla getting level from 1-10 from recruit chapter. And nino able to farm from her low level mage to a level 20 sage so?

    • @moonmelons
      @moonmelons 5 лет назад

      I mean, she really is a poor unit. Like if you compared her to Eirika for example, Eirika has better bases, better growths, a better promotion, and a MUCH better end-game weapon (the higher might, +5 str, and overall better effective vs bonus and MUCH lower weight when promoted Eirika already has slightly higher con than promoted Lyn already make it not a contest).
      And Eirika takes a back seat to her brother in terms of how good she is as a unit.