I honestly think Connor is the most tragic sibling and lowkey the most traumatized. The neglected eldest son. He hides his pain through his delusions but in reality he fully understands what kind of a father truly Logan is unlike the younger 3 who still clings on to their father for tiny crumbs of attention
Now that the series is over it’s easy to forget this scene and think the other three siblings had it worse off. Especially when we later find out Logan and Connor did have a relationship that the sibs weren’t involved in. However Connor *knew* his father didn’t care for him and by accepting that he could have a more friendly relationship with his dad but do you really wanna be just friends with your own father?
@@DSQueenie I'm just friends with my father. There's not much love there, he knows it and I know it, when you are in a situation like that, you just got to accept it. Everyone wants a loving father but not every one is. Not forgiving him is worse, it will crush you more. Being on friendly terms, is cool
Ordinarily this monologue would come across as melodramatic, but Connor is exactly the character to think up this phrase and wait for the right moment to use it.
This has to be one of the saddest pieces of dialogue I have actually heard… and his character in this moment becomes so clear. He spends 4 seasons being the butt of everyone’s jokes because he can be, because he just doesn’t care. He lived his entire life not being loved so none of it actually matters. He knows who he is to himself and to his family… probably the only person in his family to come to grips with his life and who he is and it sucks. That is conceptually so sad to hear out loud.
It matters but it's better being delusional, like the other 3 🤣🤣🤣. When you accept it, you can do your own thing and walk your own path. Of course the world is like a mindfield out there but the other 3 had it worse. At least Conner took a shot at life. The other 3 spent years by there fathers side for nothing.
This show is truly brilliant. Con has been the outcast because he’s seemingly the “weak” one. Coincidentally, that’s what makes him the strongest out of all the kids. They’ve all been chasing Logan’s approval - lying and backstabbing to do so - while Con doesn’t have to because never needed that love.
And say the second part that none of those children dare say: Logan likes Connor the most because he represents the least threat. Connor is the eldest boy, and in the end, he came out on top.
Also, Connor who grow up with no one as Logan ignored him and his mom put in an asylum survived with no love for a long time. And then he has a girlfriend / call girl who is in love with him on very odd way but still respects him. And he's the only sibling who has his own business which is his ranch and has to survive for a long time while his half siblings are acting so pretentious, spoiled and know it all and wants to backstab each other. Connor is honestly the only good Roy, he maybe an airhead (or Cone-head to be precise) but he never harm anybody.
@@NeverDauntedRadioNetwork fuck, you put it into words. that's what that odd feeling i had watching the footage of connor at dinner with logan during the wake was
Damn that was brutal and even more so upon rewatch. Con's completely alone at the rehearsal dinner until the siblings arrive. We learn he's never done karaoke like he's seen in all the films (seems out of touch but is sad in a different light). When Con tries to extend loyalty to Logan, he's rebuffed in favor of Roman and then ignored. Story of his life. I think Connor does want love, as I imagine Logan did at one point. Then they reached a certain age and for self preservation alone, both gave up in different ways. I hope Alan Ruck is recognized this season!
Biggest difference is though: between him and Logan Connor didn't let his lack of love turn him into a mean person. And in that regard he's a better man than his father.
It didn't come out of nowhere though. He always had it inside him. He just waited until the person he "loved" or trusted betrayed him. So he wanted to express his anger.
It's been almost 24 hours since I watched that episode, and I'm still gutted. That hit really hard. In the hands of a lesser actor, it would have come across as whiny or over-dramatic. But Alan Ruck nailed it.
connor is my favourite and the only one with a tender heart. the other kids are just as silly and just as entitled. no brighter. but they lack his sweetness.
Conor grew just tall enough to see over the fence and realise his place in the world, he probably had a small period where he was treated like a prince and then his mum went ill and his dad abandoned him, only to then live a life of privilege because he was Logan's regret and mistake. But never something to raise and care for.
Tender heart? Yeah i remember how he belittled kitchen staff for some shit and threw a tantrum cuz the dinner didnt go perfectly the way he planned, he called them names and berated those workers. So tender
Specially nowadays, love has lost its meaning, ppl hooked up or are in relationships for selfish reasons like physical or economical. And thus ppl adapt to the lack of love
This is Connors way of really opening up. As much as he mentions he doesn't need his dads love. He really makes it a point here that he wants his dads love. So bad.
As fucked up as Connor is he is absolutely the healthiest and strongest one of them all. He managed to choose a healthy partner and be in a somewhat healthy relationship, he doesn’t need his fathers love for validation, he recognizes his family’s toxicity and distances himself, he still has goals and hope for his future. In my eyes he’s the only one that broke the cycle because I always saw him being a great potential father.
I agree :) At least he took a shot at life. The other 3 is more screwed up. That's the way life is, it's a harsh world and it didn't turn out great for Connor. But it turned out worse for the other 3.
Every time I see Connor and Willa is like Shiv and Tom but way healthier and less toxic. Sure, they both have platonic relationship but they both support each other. Connor even ask his dad to give a good review to Willa's play and Willa even helped Connor to "fix" his eulogy on Mo's funeral. Connor has survived for a long time without love and that's why he separated himself from the company as he knows he won't be the CEO.
I think Connor is the only one who got something closest to a happy ending. I believe he is not far from the truth here, he was the only one who tried to pave their own way, and not just continue their dad's work in hopes of getting his approval.
He is the only Roy with a happy ending, even has a genuine relationship with an escort, although the Pretty Woman scenario of an escort falling in love with her client never happens in real life.
@@johnpark7972 they are all rich af -- they all have a happy ending. I have less than $300 in my bank account rn living paycheck to paycheck at age 33 even after working for almost fifteen years. Trust me, they are happy but just don't realize it because of their greed and desire for their father's approval.
What I do feel really interesting about Connor is that he is the only one brother for whom is own family is just a business. No daddy issues involving his decisions or choices, no power fighting dramas, just give me the money and that’s it. And you might think, boy that’s horrible, he only wants the money for doing literally nothing, but at the same time is ironic to think that lack of empathy for his own family is what makes Connor a dude that makes no bullshit or mistakes blinded by personal issues or family matters. Somehow he has just accepted that his family is beyond salvation and only takes what is valuable from them.
People always dismiss Connor as being an idiot, but he is 100% right here. He needed attention and love like any other person, but he has become stoic and chosen to accept himself as he is rather than project his anger and insecurities on others, and fight for Logan's approval. He may be a bit delusional and incompetent but I think he is a good person and the best child of Logan.
@@iloveads123 I think that was him living out his dreams. He wasn't delusional about actually being president, but he would be damned if any one wouldn't let him have some fun.
Am I see the irony here? Shiv and Kendall are laughing it off celebrate their "victory" for winning arguments against Logan but somehow got depressing endings while Roman and Connor who mostly don't talk too much on this argument got "Peaceful" endings?
Connor just saying the fucking truth omg . I so love that he's the brother being appart of his siblings, we all thought he was the weirdo but in fact they are all those three the weirdos
Connor is like... _whatever the completely noncomedic equivalent_ of the Straight Man in a comedy is. In the sense that he's there to provide perspective. Except instead of giving perspective to how absurd it all is, he's there to remind you of just how _deep_ the wounds in everyone go.
I feel like Ruck's been playing towards this moment his whole career, from Cameron ("Ferris Bueller") to Stephen ("Speed") and even the overshadowed but otherwise competent Capt. Harriman ("Star Trek Generations"). I wouldn't call him typecast per se, but after hiring Ruck, they completely rewrote Stephen in "Speed" (originally an entitled, arrogant lawyer whose BMW was in the shop).
They always treated Connor like an idiot and while he definitely could be, at least he knew that chasing after Logan begging and demanding approval and trying to outsmart him was the worst thing you could try to do. Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results which is why three of Caroline’s kids lost.
I felt like Connor is the most relatable one out of the four siblings for the audience, like there are more emotions and characteristics or just his whole story that the audiences relate to, just my opinion
Connor doesnt understand much, hes a doofus, a looser, he doesent have a strong grasp on reality but he is probably the only person in the world that understands Logan and knows that fighting over his love is a fools errent. Logan has no love to give and Connor knows it. Thats why in a way he won in the end by not playing at all.
Shiv realizes he much wrong she was in this episode after her father died, Shiv can’t even comprehend connor’s pain bcoz she is self-absorbed cheating lying wife
i find it odd how many people find connor to be a sympathetic figure. Hes just as diluded as the others just in a separate direction. He proposed to a girl young enough to be his daughter at someone elses wedding, hes a broken individual like the rest. I like that the show has a character like Connor to be a separate result of the same formula but I never saw him as a “noble” figure
most feminists leftists who watch this show will say Logan was a le bad father or something, but raising kids is NOT easy, Connor here sees it, hes the most self aware and strong of them all and a made man.
a man in his late 50s is on the verge of tears talking about his life without love and affection and your take away from this is that logan was an a1 father and the politcal me-no-likes are wrong for pointing out that the father who beat them, habitually lied, mocked, and neglected them while exposing them to cohorts of paedophiles, rapists and murderers and pitting them against eachother ARE infact wrong. Connor is more acutely self-aware of his flaws but also entertains ridiculous delusions because at his core he is a deeply broken man, he is anything but a made man.
Thats actually a pretty unique opinion. All of the kids get sympathy but less so the father, not sure if I agree but its fascinating nonetheless. In the end morality is relative to its very core and objective morality does not exist unless you make your own code and follow it/or follow a religion/someone elses set of rules of honour. Thats the only conclusion I can get from shows like Succession/Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon. Connor and Willa are probably the most healthy characters on the show. Delusional maybe but they are kind of self aware of that as well, they still do it for the fun.
@@TheAsymmetrical you made her point lol, you don't have kids lol. Logan tried to look for the best in them fuck he even told Shiv she would take over but she didn't change her demeanor. He took of Kendalls murder, he then told Romulus he would take over after Kendall and shiv failed. He could not trust none of them. Becajse he really did take care of them
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I honestly think Connor is the most tragic sibling and lowkey the most traumatized. The neglected eldest son. He hides his pain through his delusions but in reality he fully understands what kind of a father truly Logan is unlike the younger 3 who still clings on to their father for tiny crumbs of attention
Seeing his mother being taken away to a mental institution to stay with an unloving father… poor thing.
Such shameful treatment. He shat the bag for them...
Now that the series is over it’s easy to forget this scene and think the other three siblings had it worse off. Especially when we later find out Logan and Connor did have a relationship that the sibs weren’t involved in. However Connor *knew* his father didn’t care for him and by accepting that he could have a more friendly relationship with his dad but do you really wanna be just friends with your own father?
@@DSQueenie I'm just friends with my father. There's not much love there, he knows it and I know it, when you are in a situation like that, you just got to accept it. Everyone wants a loving father but not every one is. Not forgiving him is worse, it will crush you more. Being on friendly terms, is cool
@@fearless6947 you have a point it probably is less painful to be friends than carrying around a lot of hate.
“And I’m a plant that grows on rocks and lives off insects that die inside of me.” What a brilliant, brutal piece of a dialogue
And in case anyone forgot - he is the eldest son.
He became a stoic instead of projecting his anger and insecurities on others like Roman does
Ordinarily this monologue would come across as melodramatic, but Connor is exactly the character to think up this phrase and wait for the right moment to use it.
This has to be one of the saddest pieces of dialogue I have actually heard… and his character in this moment becomes so clear. He spends 4 seasons being the butt of everyone’s jokes because he can be, because he just doesn’t care. He lived his entire life not being loved so none of it actually matters. He knows who he is to himself and to his family… probably the only person in his family to come to grips with his life and who he is and it sucks. That is conceptually so sad to hear out loud.
It matters but it's better being delusional, like the other 3 🤣🤣🤣. When you accept it, you can do your own thing and walk your own path. Of course the world is like a mindfield out there but the other 3 had it worse. At least Conner took a shot at life. The other 3 spent years by there fathers side for nothing.
This show is truly brilliant. Con has been the outcast because he’s seemingly the “weak” one. Coincidentally, that’s what makes him the strongest out of all the kids. They’ve all been chasing Logan’s approval - lying and backstabbing to do so - while Con doesn’t have to because never needed that love.
Imo he is the smartest one. He doesn't play Logans game's. He loves his dad but knows his dad is extremely selfish and loves controlling the children.
And say the second part that none of those children dare say: Logan likes Connor the most because he represents the least threat. Connor is the eldest boy, and in the end, he came out on top.
Also, Connor who grow up with no one as Logan ignored him and his mom put in an asylum survived with no love for a long time. And then he has a girlfriend / call girl who is in love with him on very odd way but still respects him. And he's the only sibling who has his own business which is his ranch and has to survive for a long time while his half siblings are acting so pretentious, spoiled and know it all and wants to backstab each other. Connor is honestly the only good Roy, he maybe an airhead (or Cone-head to be precise) but he never harm anybody.
@@NeverDauntedRadioNetwork fuck, you put it into words. that's what that odd feeling i had watching the footage of connor at dinner with logan during the wake was
This was the first time I cried watching "Succession". It's true that you can learn to live without love, but it makes it no less tragic.
This scene blindsided me. One of the most relatable monologues I've seen.
Damn that was brutal and even more so upon rewatch. Con's completely alone at the rehearsal dinner until the siblings arrive. We learn he's never done karaoke like he's seen in all the films (seems out of touch but is sad in a different light). When Con tries to extend loyalty to Logan, he's rebuffed in favor of Roman and then ignored. Story of his life.
I think Connor does want love, as I imagine Logan did at one point. Then they reached a certain age and for self preservation alone, both gave up in different ways. I hope Alan Ruck is recognized this season!
Biggest difference is though: between him and Logan Connor didn't let his lack of love turn him into a mean person. And in that regard he's a better man than his father.
@@Zzyxzaa"Its like a superpower" 😢
I'd never cried watching Succession and Connor's speech broke me into million pieces
This scene came out of nowhere and made me really emotional, way too relatable.
It didn't come out of nowhere though. He always had it inside him. He just waited until the person he "loved" or trusted betrayed him. So he wanted to express his anger.
@@ericthegeneric1611 but this scene was no different, he was constantly betrayed and overlooked by them. That's why this came out of nowhere.
It's been almost 24 hours since I watched that episode, and I'm still gutted. That hit really hard. In the hands of a lesser actor, it would have come across as whiny or over-dramatic. But Alan Ruck nailed it.
I teared up a bit at this part. Incredibly sad
Me too. I teared up also. Your family and those closest to you always have the ability to hurt you there most
Connor is sad. Without love. When a man is sad, we all sad.
connor is my favourite and the only one with a tender heart. the other kids are just as silly and just as entitled. no brighter. but they lack his sweetness.
And his awareness.
Conor grew just tall enough to see over the fence and realise his place in the world, he probably had a small period where he was treated like a prince and then his mum went ill and his dad abandoned him, only to then live a life of privilege because he was Logan's regret and mistake. But never something to raise and care for.
Tender heart? Yeah i remember how he belittled kitchen staff for some shit and threw a tantrum cuz the dinner didnt go perfectly the way he planned, he called them names and berated those workers. So tender
The most ridiculous part if you idiots softening up to him cuz of tiny video with minuscule emotion forgetting all of his fuck ups. Clowns
@@EughhBrothereughh He's the least bad child, and in a show like this, you, as a viewer, hold on for dear life to those types of characters.
Man! How many people can relate ….
Specially nowadays, love has lost its meaning, ppl hooked up or are in relationships for selfish reasons like physical or economical. And thus ppl adapt to the lack of love
More than you think.
ummm - raises hand
This is Connors way of really opening up. As much as he mentions he doesn't need his dads love. He really makes it a point here that he wants his dads love. So bad.
As fucked up as Connor is he is absolutely the healthiest and strongest one of them all. He managed to choose a healthy partner and be in a somewhat healthy relationship, he doesn’t need his fathers love for validation, he recognizes his family’s toxicity and distances himself, he still has goals and hope for his future. In my eyes he’s the only one that broke the cycle because I always saw him
being a great potential father.
I agree :) At least he took a shot at life. The other 3 is more screwed up. That's the way life is, it's a harsh world and it didn't turn out great for Connor. But it turned out worse for the other 3.
He's also low key happy.
I wouldn't describe Willa as a healthy partner. She did say " fuck it, what's the worst that could happen" to Con's proposal
I honestly think Connor is way more of a sad character than Kendall and anyone else on the show. I hope he has a happy ending.
no the younger 3 had it worse.
Tbh he had the happiest ending
Every time I see Connor and Willa is like Shiv and Tom but way healthier and less toxic. Sure, they both have platonic relationship but they both support each other. Connor even ask his dad to give a good review to Willa's play and Willa even helped Connor to "fix" his eulogy on Mo's funeral. Connor has survived for a long time without love and that's why he separated himself from the company as he knows he won't be the CEO.
I think Connor is the only one who got something closest to a happy ending. I believe he is not far from the truth here, he was the only one who tried to pave their own way, and not just continue their dad's work in hopes of getting his approval.
At first I thought Connor and Willa were a big joke, now I actually hope they live happily ever after lol. I really like them together.
He is the only Roy with a happy ending, even has a genuine relationship with an escort, although the Pretty Woman scenario of an escort falling in love with her client never happens in real life.
@@johnpark7972 they are all rich af -- they all have a happy ending. I have less than $300 in my bank account rn living paycheck to paycheck at age 33 even after working for almost fifteen years. Trust me, they are happy but just don't realize it because of their greed and desire for their father's approval.
@@johnpark7972Their relationship is platonic but the fact Willa admits that she cares of him is a big W for Connor.
That was too real.
What I do feel really interesting about Connor is that he is the only one brother for whom is own family is just a business. No daddy issues involving his decisions or choices, no power fighting dramas, just give me the money and that’s it. And you might think, boy that’s horrible, he only wants the money for doing literally nothing, but at the same time is ironic to think that lack of empathy for his own family is what makes Connor a dude that makes no bullshit or mistakes blinded by personal issues or family matters. Somehow he has just accepted that his family is beyond salvation and only takes what is valuable from them.
The finale made this moment so much less heartbreaking. Ya got to see Logan with Connor in a way he has never been seen with any of his children.
People always dismiss Connor as being an idiot, but he is 100% right here. He needed attention and love like any other person, but he has become stoic and chosen to accept himself as he is rather than project his anger and insecurities on others, and fight for Logan's approval. He may be a bit delusional and incompetent but I think he is a good person and the best child of Logan.
He needed attention such as wanting to be President of the U.S
@@iloveads123 I think that was him living out his dreams. He wasn't delusional about actually being president, but he would be damned if any one wouldn't let him have some fun.
this broke me to my core
That actually does explain his reaction when the big bad wolf d-worded in the next episode.
Am I see the irony here?
Shiv and Kendall are laughing it off celebrate their "victory" for winning arguments against Logan but somehow got depressing endings while Roman and Connor who mostly don't talk too much on this argument got "Peaceful" endings?
A detail that’s easy to miss here: none of them follow Connor. Proof he is right.
By this point in the story, the family is falling apart. Connor actually wins the battle of succession by not even being a contestant.
His night totally got hijacked by his father and his siblings’ rivalry too
This already hit as a bit too relatable when I saw it last week.
After Connor’s Wedding, though, it hits extra hard.
Emmys for all of them. Please.
I love Connor
that hit a little too hard
I think it was Jeremy himself nodding at that last bit, as a 'nod' to Alan's insane delivery
This scene devastated me.
Roman’s disgusted look at their jokes is too good. “No it’s fine. It’s cool.”
It’s like a superpower” damn 😕 Felt con on this what a amazing show I miss it
2 chapter and about 3 or 4 phrases and I just think he deserve his entire show .... Connor deserve more about everything ...
Connor just saying the fucking truth omg . I so love that he's the brother being appart of his siblings, we all thought he was the weirdo but in fact they are all those three the weirdos
Connor is like... _whatever the completely noncomedic equivalent_ of the Straight Man in a comedy is. In the sense that he's there to provide perspective. Except instead of giving perspective to how absurd it all is, he's there to remind you of just how _deep_ the wounds in everyone go.
Perfect comment.
Whoever said in the comments that Kendall lookied up to connor in this moment is a genius
Ken gives a look to let you know, Jeremy Strong needs more roles!
What Connor said is so true... The opposite of love is not hate...
Then what?
@@artflowerslofi2676 Indifference
I feel like Ruck's been playing towards this moment his whole career, from Cameron ("Ferris Bueller") to Stephen ("Speed") and even the overshadowed but otherwise competent Capt. Harriman ("Star Trek Generations").
I wouldn't call him typecast per se, but after hiring Ruck, they completely rewrote Stephen in "Speed" (originally an entitled, arrogant lawyer whose BMW was in the shop).
Well you feel wrong lol but it's ok. You haven't seen him in other roles if you mentioned his only big roles
His character in Twister is similar too
Most heartbreaking scene in entire Succession.
This was just Conner's get away plan so he doesn't pay and he makes his siblings pay lol
I will always love you Connor Roy ❤
The thing that is most tragic about Connor is that he gave up on Logan's love.
He's the only kid who knows who he is... he could succeed Logan
He's not. Even if he was chosen, he's not gonna take it. Because that's who Connor is.
@@Justyn_Lim_ that’s my point. He doesn’t want it
He has got bigger things going on. This man is the next president of the United States of America. He doesn't have time to run Logan's little company.
From the sourdough starter scene to this… 📈📈📈💔
Con my goat
one of the most profound moments in the entire show
Just finished this episode and Connor's lines hit so hard. I can almost hear an emotional guitar breakdown after the "plant living in a rock" bit lol
This didn’t break me. Totally relatable. What else is new. Con’ for prez.
This is exactly how I feel. And I like it.
And that’s acting, kids.-
Empowering speech! Thanks Connor 🫶🏻
At least Connor is the one who gets the happy ending after all. Kind of sad that his siblings weren't so lucky with that
He telling the siblings the truth about their obsession for be the CEO its perfect
I'm a certified ConHead
Out of the 4 siblings he’d be the best father
Wow, that scene is intense, makes me think that Connor Roy was interessed in policts at a very young age
This exchange made Connor one of the best supporting cast members
he's literally me..........
maybe connor is the killer logan was searching for after all
I was so relieved to see Con find Willa in his bed when he returns ....I was happy for him
They always treated Connor like an idiot and while he definitely could be, at least he knew that chasing after Logan begging and demanding approval and trying to outsmart him was the worst thing you could try to do.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results which is why three of Caroline’s kids lost.
Wow. I thought my superpower was "invisibility". Guess I have a second one....
Resonate with this so much ❤
there is a life long pain behind his "i dont need love" and even tho everyone is horrible in this show, that fact just makes me sad
Connor was by far the smartest kid
I felt like Connor is the most relatable one out of the four siblings for the audience, like there are more emotions and characteristics or just his whole story that the audiences relate to, just my opinion
Alan Ruck’s best scene ever….
But he does need love thats why he marries willa but he sees the peopl he is with as what they are
He wants love, he doesnt need it
he is cold but lacks a motivation, if he has one, that's going to be interesting.
so true, bestie
He's my favorite sibling other than Kendell
Kinda funny how Roman in this scene is uncomfortable at a sex metaphor
Connor doesnt understand much, hes a doofus, a looser, he doesent have a strong grasp on reality but he is probably the only person in the world that understands Logan and knows that fighting over his love is a fools errent. Logan has no love to give and Connor knows it. Thats why in a way he won in the end by not playing at all.
Background music?
Anyone recognize the brand of the suit Connor is wearing at 00:38?
kiton
This is just sad
Sou do Brasil e essa sena foi sensacional! Um belo ator, e uma fala forte!
Shiv realizes he much wrong she was in this episode after her father died, Shiv can’t even comprehend connor’s pain bcoz she is self-absorbed cheating lying wife
i find it odd how many people find connor to be a sympathetic figure. Hes just as diluded as the others just in a separate direction. He proposed to a girl young enough to be his daughter at someone elses wedding, hes a broken individual like the rest. I like that the show has a character like Connor to be a separate result of the same formula but I never saw him as a “noble” figure
most feminists leftists who watch this show will say Logan was a le bad father or something, but raising kids is NOT easy, Connor here sees it, hes the most self aware and strong of them all and a made man.
a man in his late 50s is on the verge of tears talking about his life without love and affection and your take away from this is that logan was an a1 father and the politcal me-no-likes are wrong for pointing out that the father who beat them, habitually lied, mocked, and neglected them while exposing them to cohorts of paedophiles, rapists and murderers and pitting them against eachother ARE infact wrong. Connor is more acutely self-aware of his flaws but also entertains ridiculous delusions because at his core he is a deeply broken man, he is anything but a made man.
A series about the impact of long-term abuse on adult children and that’s your take? Geez, maybe you’re watching the wrong show.
Thats actually a pretty unique opinion. All of the kids get sympathy but less so the father, not sure if I agree but its fascinating nonetheless. In the end morality is relative to its very core and objective morality does not exist unless you make your own code and follow it/or follow a religion/someone elses set of rules of honour. Thats the only conclusion I can get from shows like Succession/Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon. Connor and Willa are probably the most healthy characters on the show. Delusional maybe but they are kind of self aware of that as well, they still do it for the fun.
Dude this scene isn’t framed as GOOD it’s tragic, that’s why the others are so stunned and the score is so depressing.
@@TheAsymmetrical you made her point lol, you don't have kids lol. Logan tried to look for the best in them fuck he even told Shiv she would take over but she didn't change her demeanor. He took of Kendalls murder, he then told Romulus he would take over after Kendall and shiv failed. He could not trust none of them. Becajse he really did take care of them