BART report highlights need for additional funding and why ridership has dropped
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- BART services may begin to dwindle over the next few years as a new report confirms the system's slow recovery since the pandemic. Here's the latest effort to boost ridership, before it's too late: abc7ne.ws/3Y2YB0t
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It takes a horrific death for BART officials to figure out something is wrong. The fact is - BART has been massively dysfunctional for the past 5 to 10 years. Why is BART functioning as a homeless shelter for whackos, peeing on the floor? Why are people smoking cigarettes and/or dangerous drugs on the BART train while we're moving? Why has fare evasion gone on for decades? I was nearly attacked on BART myself - it isn't safe and I avoid BART whenever I can. I ride Amtrak a lot - Amtrak isn't the cesspool that BART is.
Did you report the druggies to Bart Police?
I agree though the fare gates should have been upgraded long ago.
Every miscreant out there realized in the past few years they don't enforce fare evasion. The BART employees are FORBIDDEN to interfere. It became a free for all for the dysfunctional to just hang out and cause trouble.
Ridership dropped because we got tired of homeless and mentally ill drug users smoking fentanyl and meth on BART while we commuted to work... so once remote work became a thing we dropped BART in an instant. Make BART safe and actually keep out criminals and drug users and homeless and riders will return--but BART leadership hasn't done anything meaningful to improve safety.
So what is it? You stopped riding BART because of the homeless? or because of remote work? Sounds like the latter.
I rode Bart two weeks ago and there was blood spatter from someone shooting up on the seat where i was about to sit down. Crud in every crevice. I'm surprised we don't have more MRSA or Shigella outbreaks from BART.
Bart already has its own police force and crisis intervention specialists (some people criticized the latter for not being related to running trains). How much can a rail agency do if the society around it is broken?
@@AsteaFrosty Well a good first step is to make sure every single person inside those fare gates is an actual paying customer. Now they're working on it now with extra large gates that someone can't causally walk over/through, but this is something that should have happened a LONG time ago. It's not like there's special new technology that did not exist, some bean counters in the organization made the decision that the losses due to people hopping the gates did not warrant the cost to retrofit every station with more "sleezeball proof" gates. And like everything in government the longer you wait the more expensive it'll be. Those gates everywhere then maybe that old Asian lady doesn't get murdered on the platform by a homeless guy.
Don't get me wrong, yes society is also f**ked, the fact that guy was a repeat offender and was deemed not worthy of incarceration is a society problem. BART can't fix that, but what they can do is make sure everything in their house is good.
@@AsteaFrosty Put in the new tall fargates to keep out the troublemakers who wouldn't get on BART if they had to pay. They all learned in the past few years it was easy to fare evade because the BART board decided it was too hard to enforce. It can be done in like 30 days but because it's the US with our for profit system, it could take five years.
You literally just allowed a sociopath to shove an elderly women onto the tracks you dont need more funding you need to re evaluate how you prioritize your money.
Truth!
Shut down
Maintaining the same staff level as b4 the pandemic....😢
Not even a few hours after this post a girl got kidnapped at the Powell station so yeah no funding denied
get the tweakers out the lobbies and maybe people who actually pay will feel safer to ride on the bart and then you could justify more funding
If only in the 70’s they knew that BART would turn into the leach it is. Not only can they raise fares but they can tax your home. They never lose. BART PD just drives around in their police cars. They should all be in the train and hire service officers to drive the jail transport wagons.
Truth - BART police are useless. One night about 10:00 p.m., waiting to pick up my child on an arriving train, yes, sitting in a blue disabled parking place near the station exit (and there were at least 40 empty disabled spaces around me), a BART cop pulls up and tells me in no uncertain terms to leave the disabled space. Was this the best use of his time? I don't think so.
They raise fares on the real patrons while thousands everyday just fare evade, especially all the troublemakers. BART police love their police cars because it makes them look like real police. They don't want to be labeled a fake cop like the university/college cops.
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. I'm pro-union but they are a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform.
They only care about Bart tickets instead of violence
bingo
Office vacancies hitting all-time highs. Commuting to work is much lower now. Adjust accordingly.
Better remove Bart completely. Largest generation in human history is retiring and dying off and it’s followed by one of the smallest generations
The ONE time I've seen police on BART in the last 2 years was to approach a guy about not wearing a face mask when there was a homeless person mid-crack pipe hit not even 15 feet away
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform.
Cut salary that will help
Ridership has dropped because BART is not safe. A woman just got pushed off a platform and killed. I wouldn’t ride it if my life depended on it. I’d rather hitchhike. Fund law enforcement, not BART.
I wonder if we could use "BART patron" as a valid reason to get a concealed carry permit for a pistol sidearm.
BART didn't need a report to find out this info. All that's needed is a pair of eyeballs 😅😂😅
Exactly!
Give it up BART. You’re not going to get more funds to line your bank accounts of the board of directors. You gotta do for yourself and figure it out without raising prices without the monthly begathon of threats of service cuts if you can’t extort us of more money. Work it out by terminating positions that are senseless like the entire board of directors, like station agents who don’t prevent fare evasion anyway, like janitors who make $120k per year.
Safety a concern?….wow they just realized it.
No more tax $ for BART!!! Vote out the board!
~ They Never Stopped the Criminals from jumping the Gate ... So the Paying Customers drive now instead
Bart is just trash. I see bums and crackheads everyday on Bart, to and from work. I can count on 1 hand how many times I’ve seen police/Bart police just this year. Need more safety on Bart period end of story.
Need those "Social workers" to protect yall XD LOL .... Police yall chased away outta the Bay! EVERYONE with a brain told yall 'Defund the Police' was going to be brutal on your daily life. Enjoy
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform.
A sweet, elderly woman Corazon Dandan was just murdered at the Bart station. rip. her blood is on the Bart administrators' hands.
BART doesn't clean the train's inside often enough. It always has a filthy homeless stench. Solid plastic or fiberglass seats would be easier to clean and last longer, instead of cushioned seats that need replacing more often when damaged. This type of poor decisions is why BART always needs more funding. They never try to be frugal. They always expect the state to bail them out, or raise fares to cover a shortfall. Safety has never been a serious concern for BART. In 2016, TV news exposed that all surveillance cameras inside BART trains were fake. That problem has only been fully fixed recently, with the purchased new trains that replaced all the old ones. Another issue is BART refusing to install platform edge doors, many years ago. Those type of safety doors would have prevented the shoving murder of that elderly woman. In South Korea those safety doors are mandatory by law.
Prices to got dammm high
They keep raising fares on the honest patrons while they allow thousands every day to fare evade. I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform.
NO taxpayer bailout! 😡
Cause people push senior citizens in front of trains? Just an idea. Last time I was on Bart someone hopped the barrier and the Bart cop who was talking didn’t even skip a beat. Then want my tax money to pay the difference?
If someone wants to push another person into an arriving train having to pay a fare isn't going to stop them. We need walls and doors between the platform and the tracks like other modern metro systems instead of new fare gates
90% of the troublemakers are fare evaders so it would help alot.
Dirty seats and lots of homeless.
no money there needs to be layoffs
I stopped taking bart because I get oof work pretty late and the homeless people used to creep me out
BART needs to run like a private company. It needs to find ways to cut costs while looking for ways to increase revenue. Unfortunately, BART continues to focus on asking taxpayers for more money. What cost cutting measures have you taken? What incentives have you taken to boost ridership? What is the board doing?
If you study BART's history, a big part of the problem is the BART employee unions who block any reform while they keep demanding wage increases. I'd proposed having volunteers watch every fare gate but the unions will likely object.
California running another poorly performing grift?!?! No wayyyy
High price and no safety
Start charging drivers on the freeways if you consider charging lower-income riders on BART more for this mismanagement. Egregious, terrible.
It's so easy to raise fares on law abiding patrons while they let thousands fare evade every day. 90% of the fare evaders are trouble makers.
Well if they would just install gates on the platform, it would've prevented this tragic death
Layoff the station agents…most are on coffee breaks all day or rude when you ask them a question.
There are some good ones but they are FORBIDDEN to stop fare evasion.
Population changes and remote work are NOT the real reasons for decreased ridership. Put CRIME at the top of the list. And then let's talk about BART's horribly inept management - which I'm sure the report does not address. The BART Board has it's head in the budgetary sand and is clearly counting on more state or federal subsidies to bail itself out of its own mismanagement.
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases and BART management are not allowed to reform the system.
@@kenw.4539 I agree that the unions are obstructionist. But management isn't much better.
No WAY do I ride BART: as a wheelchair user I cannot fathom the security issues or the chance of broken elevators. I use AC Transit exclusively. The operators SEE me and keep me safe❤
Any overpaid BART worker thinking about striking now? LMAO!
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform.
We’re tired of mentally ill and drug addicts riding on Bart. What we need to convince people to go back on Bart more security and also push those who aren’t real paying customers from doing these kinds of things. They should’ve learned from when Ms Corazon Dan-Dan was killed on bart may she rest in peace.
We need to have the security present all around Bart. Certain stations should have beefed up staffing. In Japan you can see staff everywhere. In the USA we want quality as cheap as possible which means lousy services. I wish we had a better transport system to serve the Bay Area cuz traffic ain’t improving
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system.
The problem is that the government makes it too easy and cheap to drive. I guarantee ridership would rise if you made it much more expensive to drive. I don't understand why the government doesn't do the obvious things to make this happen. Fewer cars on the road would be a good thing.
BART can cut unnecessary admin overhead. They are not fiscally response and should not be bailed out. Fares constantly go up like clock work.
We just don't feel safe. Last time I rode on there, I searched for an ID for the car I was in and a number I could text to get the guy who was mumbling and cursing every minute off the train (he was clearly a tweaker), but of course there wasn't a number. So I walked over to another car.
Will they finally put barriers so people don't commit suicide? Now confirmed someone got pushed. They said they couldn't before because the fleet of their trains were double door and triple door. Now they are one and the same. Please do something for humans getting killed by Bart trains
How will additional funding change if you do not jail criminals?
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases BART can't afford and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system. Also ban all public sector unions including police unions. Unions are banned at the federal level for reasons of national security.
BART needs to be 24/7 period. This is supposed to be a world class international hub but the city shuts down around 8/9pm. Naw, its racism and classism. The main reason we have BART going down East Bay to San Jose and not down the Peninsula. Same for Marin. State should have overridden their rejection of letting BART build through Marin. Wasted opportunities bc not in my backyard. Slackers.
Most Marin folks wanted BART to come to Marin County but it was Golden Gate Transit who stopped it because they were afraid BART would take away their revenue. GGT buses are pretty good but buses suck compared to a dedicated train system.
I just keep seeing fools jump the turnstile day after day then all the violent encounters, constant dope smoking on all cars
Always with the funding for them 😂
I stopped riding Bart because it’s unreliable, dirty, and unsafe. If I ever need to go into the city, I plan around taking the ferry. I’ll drive if I have to. I used to take BART all the time when I went to school or worked downtown. But now, never, and anyone who visits the bay, I advise them not to use Bart at all.
Go ask Zelinsky in Ukraine for some Bart money, and maybe some money for housing, education, heath care for Americans. Oh, but I forgot, Black water need to make bank and NATO expansion, sharp as a tack and Putin's talking points....
umm the "population" does not equal commuters
Please stop with this "if they don't get money it's going to go away" BS already, BART will still be there if they don't get their money, it's not like they're going to declare bankruptcy and the track and cars will be sold to scrap dealers.
I ride BART to work, I love it, it's great for my usage, but BART needs to spend according to it's income, and if that means less frequent trains, less frequent trains it is. BART needs to cut the fat, and do so now, not plan as if ridership is going to magically get to pre-pandemic levels.
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system.
Blame the union for causing the financial crisis.
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system.
If you download their financials and actually look at them you'll see that this story is actually about funding their poor pension plan decisions.
They want the taxpayer to pay up because their cash investments didn't return 8%.
Quite a sleazy way they've rolled their pension shortfalls into revenue if you ask me.
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases BART can't afford and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system. Also ban all public sector unions including police unions. Unions are banned at the federal level for reasons of national security.
Were was fart security
bart is the best
Audit the finances
I keep proposing to BART employees to use volunteers to guard all the fare gates but I'm sure the BART employee unions will object. 90% of the troublemakers on BART are fare evaders. I'm pro-union but the BART employee unions have been a huge part of the problem of why BART can't reform. If you study BART's history, it's been a consistent story of strikes or threatened strikes while demanding for consistent wage increases and BART management are not allowed to reform the system. F..k the unions and reform the system and treat BART as a transit agency, not a welfare system for government employees nor a social support system.
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