Is Assassin's Creed Odyssey REALLY That Bad?!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Assassin's Creed has gone through a plethora of changes due to fan burnout. Odyssey marks the largest step away from the series norm as it goes full RPG. Lock went back to it. Is it a bloated mess?!
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There's a large group of people that would consider this one of the best ones. I genuinely think the Ubisoft hate goes beyond the people who actually play the games
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Yep, beaten it 3 times. It's turned into my guilty pleasure game.
The game really has little to do with AC so I would understand where a long-time fan could be coming from if they don't like it. But taken by itself, I think it's top 5 in terms of Ubisoft's output over the past decade.
@@tezkhaos not a great AC game but a great game in general really does describe the experience
In a part of that group. Absolutely love this game sank hundreds upon hundreds of hours into it. And the fact that once your character is full level you can basically min max stats for your playstyle like it’s Diablo. Insane how fun this game is
I actually really enjoyed my time with this game. Yeah, it wandered quite a bit from being a true Assassin's Creed game, but it's a solid RPG. It's basically Great Value brand The Witcher 3 in Greece, and that's okay lol
I hope not I hate the combat in Witcher 3 it could've been better was excited to play it till you made that comparison. Witcher 3 is not as good as people act and it's definitely hyped up over the nudity vs how good the gameplay is and I loved reading the Witcher and the Netflix show.
@@Dustin-pb7nmmy brother you are tweaking hard
@@klepTeevee actually no I'm clean and sober. I loved the game it just wasn't as good as they said it is and it's not better than oblivion or Skyrim. The combat in it in some ways is better but the the sword swinging animations could've been way better. As a whole it's not a better game than many other games there's stuff it does right and things it does wrong.
@@Dustin-pb7nmSkyrim sucks. Even Starfield is better
@@CyberHardcore-z7g Skyrim does suck compared to oblivion your right but the witcher isn't better overall.
I 100% Origins, Odyssey, & Valhalla and don't regret a single second.
As my first AC game, it is absolutely my favorite. Combat, Stealth, and Graphics are all amazing, and even the map is nice.
Damn that’s a tough first AC lol, got the short end of the stick
Odessy is a great game, one of the most fun open world kind of games I’ve played, the hate it gets is from cringey people who never leave their gaming chair complaining it’s not exactly the same as the ezio collection
I hate this game and the reason for that is cuz it’s nothing like the ezio collection
@@jdcursed4800 LOL that's what he said. AC2 had a great story, but very clunky and annoying to play. Plus the real world animus stuff was a good idea, but broke immersion in practice. The ships improved AC.
@@jdcursed4800 I hope this wasn't a joke reply. lol
The missions are extremely repetitive just like Valhalla
I love Odyssey since the day of release. I even like it better than Valhalla. I am a huge fan of Greek mythology so this game was like opening a birthday present. Fighting mythological creatures, meeting known figures like Sokrates or Alkibiades was just amazing.
Valhalla is kinda boring especially the story and how boring the world is along with the characters
@@anthonyojedaflores6463 Yeah, we do the same thing over and over. Go to A, make a new king, go to B, make a new king and so on and on. On top of that the story is so convoluted that by the end I couldn't realise what was going on.
@@MultiKamil97 I like origins a lot problem the combat is kinda stale
Its a great game, people wouldn't whine about it so much if it didn't have "Assassins Creed" in the title.
Accurate
I enjoyed it cause I treated it like it wasn't an AC game. However, I still haven't finished it due to the sheer size of the game. The game is bloated but Vallhalla takes the cake with that imo
@kbdc absolutely. I was able to finish Odyssey after a few months but Valhalla... I just regret buying the season pass before playing the game. It was fun to an extent but it was too much
THE COPY AND PASTE LANDSCAPE KILLED IT FOR ME !! THE MAP IS LIKE 1 MILLIONS METER SQUARED BUT ITS EACH TIME THE SAME FOREST, SAME FIELDS , SAME CITIES !!
And what’s worst is the battle between red vs blue because you spent all your time choosing one side BUT THAT DOESNT AFFECT ANYTHING !! You can choses for one land team Blue on the other land team red or make all the map red and that doesn’t change anything !!
THIS GAME IS JUST A WAIST OF TIME !!
And don’t get started on the skill tree ! BECAUSE IN THE STEALH PORTION THERE ARE SOME FIGHTING ABILITIES !! And you can’t knock out 2 people at once except if you throw the dagger
@@d.o.a9236 calm down little buddy. There's other games. Life is far too short to get that worked up over anything lol
Game was great. Favorite Assassin's creed. Exploring and combat was fun. The others are so repetitive I get bored except for black flag. Black flag was my 2nd favorite. I've played them all but never was really enjoying it until black flag. The other worldly bosses and naval combat was fun. The cult had actual cool members not just some random guy in the market. I really enjoyed the story. Lost me in valhalla it was a worse version of Odyssey. Spartan kick is still my favorite move. Spent over 100 hours on that damn game. Me and my friends still talk about how fun the naval combat was in odyssey and black flag.
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I still occasionally go back to Odyssey just to spend time in the world. Played all the story and DLC, cleared the map, played conquests till Sparta ran all it could.
I'm pretty much like that with most open worlds I like the aesthetic of. Mainly that I spend a long time just running around doing whatever. Odyssey was a pretty relaxing way to experience ancient Greece.
Tho I'll say it definitely was that shift where AC wasn't really about the Assassins throughout anymore. Same with Valhalla. I think it's cool that they wanna lean into the fantastical elements of history and having the Pieces of Eden bring them forth. But its one of those "can't please everyone" sort deals. Do you lean into realism or embrace fantastical elements? Mirage tried to go back to a more realistic (as realistic as AC usually was anyways).
I'm sure there's a balance somewhere, maybe they'll figure it out.
Maybe the answer was to create another series entirely, but then it wouldn't sell like AC
I sometimes go back to Odyssey for the same reason. There are also still plenty of quests, even after putting about 120 hours into the game.
@@WeakestAvenger Oof, I finished #DAInquisition recently, and took >250h, and it has hardly any main quests. Odyssey might outlive me. Need to stop looting everywhere!
This is my favorite one. Its beautiful. It’s amazing. All the filler people complain about is literally optional, you do enough of it during the main quest to be leveled sufficiently. I had to grind one time I think a couple levels. People complaining about nothing.
Its not an assassin creed game.
Thats why most people don’t like it.
@@MichaelOdendaal way too much complaining about "traditional ac" the game was FUN, you could easily play stealth only. this got overly hated on jus bc it focused on the esu rather than brotherhood/templars.
@@MichaelOdendaalIts an AC game most definitely. Some problems but the game is easily one of Ubisoft's best.
@MichaelOdendaal most of those old AC games were ASSS 💯
@@ourshit5725have you even played them
I also love odyssey.. Its a brilliant game.. The voice acting is fantastic, and while tberes dozens of tedious quests, they are reasonably short, but i couldn't finish Valhalla.. Yes its a beautifully stunning England, with sunsets, forests and rivers... but for me, Valhalla hits a wall about power level 120, and starts to drag on and unless you like grinding, then your almost forced to buy their power level ups in the store.. I never did.. I just got bored.. and let it go... but odyssey is great
"That bad"? It's probably the biggest AAA ever made, too big really. Incredible graphics and details, with all the fascinating ancient Greece mythology. Some could argue it's the best ever game. Anyone arguing it's even remotely 'bad' is deranged, not a gamer, or has never really played it. Ignore anyone saying it's anything but great, although it's not for everyone.
I got burned out playing this game. It's basically 4 open world games in 1 package. Despite having a new game plus option, I just don't have any desire to ever play the game again due to how extremely padded and repetitive the game is, and again how it burned me out. Plus, the overall story just didn't impress me that much. Even so, I'm not ungrateful, and this is the first and likely only Assassin's Creed game I'll ever play.
This video is feeding off, and adding to, the weird cult of 'modern AC games are terrible', which I'm fairly sure only exists in social media, and not at all in true gamers, or anyone that's actually played. People who've not played convince themselves recent AC is bad (with nostalgia blindness for AC2), and will then actively have a need to convince others too. Real shame because many who believed those control freaks would've loved Odyssey.
@@goatlps go outside
Best Assassins creed in my opinion and one of my favourite games OAT, LOVE Odyssey 🧡
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My favourite AC title. It´s a must play for everyone who loves ancient greece.
Or gaming.
Ngl I hated this game for the same reasons everyone else did. But halfway through It started growing on me and I kinda love it now
It all depends on the perspective of the individual players. As someone who’s favorite games in the series are AC1 through AC Revelations, Odyssey isn’t what I want from an AC game. The story and tone of an AC game was always key for me so the change in direction from emphasis on the philosophical and serious themes of those stories to more lighthearted and mythological themes of the beer games was not something that I would like. That doesn’t mean I don’t have fun with it because as a mindless action RPG I was able to put a lot of hours into it so I don’t begrudge people for liking the game. The only thing I can’t truly understand about people who like the game is why people like the DLC which seem just so cheap, bizarre, and truly nonsensical
"The story and tone of an AC game was always key for me" - that means GTAV and RDR2 are bad too? AC/Odyssey isn't stealth and Animus time travel any more, so it's barely related to the pre AC4. It's still an incredible and hugely detailed game, plus everyone loves the ships and vastly improved parkour, and gameplay in general. I loved the story of AC2, but the clunky broken mechanics made my blood boil - you could fall to your death at any moment LOL.
@@goatlps ?
Odyssey was one of my most favorite Assassin's Creed games absolutely loved it currently playing Valhalla but are not such a big fan of it.
Odyssey is the best of the three simply because everyone knows of famous Greeks like Socrates and Herodotos.
It was great in my opinion and easily my favorite so far. The only real issue is like all the newer ones so far where when you aren't in a mission or doing something specific the world felt a bit bland and like a painting you could only mostly just stare at and say, " Pretty. " Odyssey was a bit better than origins to me for this bc instead of vast deserts we had oceans and at least there we had ship combat. Valhalla had mini games and fishing etc., but the story that let you do it in whatever order you wanted felt like a bunch of bland mini campaigns that weren't really connected well and no single one stood out as being that different from the previous region.
super slept on in my opinion. I really enjoyed this game and since i never finished the Dlc's so i just re-installed.
Hell yeah. Odyssey is by far my favourite AC, and I played them all except for Syndicate. The world design is SO beautiful, I just don't get tired of looking at this game. The combat is fun, the naval combat even more so, Kassandra is a great protagonist, there's tons of funny dialogue (Socrates & Alkibiades, hahaha)... what's not to love?
No it's not. It's the best AC game after Origins, slightly better than Black Flag. People who want the old style AC games are out of luck, they will keep making them open world and rpg~ish.
I tried and failed to get into assassin's creed many times but couldn't get into it until Origins, i ended up going back and enjoying most the others but never was as entertained as i was by Origins until i played Odyssey
Odyssey is fantastic! 9.5/10 for me.
Origins Odyssey & black flag are great games
While it didn’t necessarily feel like an assassins creed game , I loved AC odyssey . Easily in my top 3 AC games . I’ve been a huge fan of Greek history and mythology since I was a kid so the setting was an absolute treat for me . Overall I put like 150 hrs into the game and had a blast the whole time . I liked the story , there was some really memorable side quest , good dlc , boss /monster fights were pretty cool actually , music was good and the exploration aspects were great
This is one of my favorites after all the Enzio games and black flag. It's very good. I enjoyed it a lot, huge open world to explore. I got lost in exploring and the different armors and abilities. Great game
I think the main reason it was so divisive is because it was different than what we knew AC to be. Sometimes it feels developers cant win. Never change, people complain, change and people complain. This was a gorgeous game with rich story, great diversity to content and great gameplay. There were flaws, sure but dont hate a game because a formula was changed. Not many open world games have driven me to explore every inch of a massive map like this one did. Sure i was ready for the story to wrap up by 60-70 hours but by the end i was happy I put in the time.
It makes me laugh because so many people complain that ubisoft dont change its formula but when they do people still complain and wanna go back to the previous formula 🤣 ya couldnt make the shizz up
This was actually a game I finished I don’t finish a lot of games I loved odyssey
Steam Positive Rating
Odyssey - 89%
Origins - 86%
Valhalla - 70%
And Odyssey has higher rating than Brotherhood and Black Flag. Same rating as II.
So AC Odyssey is not a bad game, at least not enough to be rated negatively. It's not a great AC game, but it is a good game (remove the AC in the title).
The best 'AC' was 2, but looked bad, and played really bad, compared to Odyssey. Odyssey is the best non-AC game and best with AC in the title. Odyssey is certainly a great game - stressful upgrading though. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, yet few go back to old AC.
the atlantis dlc made this game 10x better
Great job as always lock!!! Love Odyssey.
I think the people who hate it dont like this era in time, it doesnt really move away from stealth either you can set up armour sets from the first island to have instant stealth kills even on nightmare,
But that said who the hell would want to not partake in open combat in the best setting for said combat, i was a Kassandra purist for ages i regret not playing Alexios sooner i am currently playing him the same way as you,
There are some weak AC games no denying that but this ismt one of them
Damn, people hate this game? One of the best in the series imo and the only AssCreed platinum trophy I’ve ever gotten.
Its a great RPG and the greek setting is just awesome. Just not an AC game. But who cares anymore, the games just fun to play
What? It's the best AC and one of the best open world games ever made.
Facts, brother.
I loved odyssey ngl
Odyssey was pretty good. It had an incredibly dense world and solid rpg mechanics. My only complaint is the combat, you only had like 3-4 moves per weapon. It got repetitive after a while.
LOL, why use 3 or 4 when you can button-bash 1? Don't even dodge. Most of the time I am using the bow though, which is more fun, then running away if that fails. Whatever it takes to uncover more of the story and see new incredible sites, which is all great stuff. It's a lot better than good. The RPG tinkering is actually the nasty bit - you have to just upgrade stuff every 5 levels or so, or you'd be doing it all the time, and have no resources left. I don't think my ship will ever be good.
The qonquest battles are a great addition for the world, immersion and gameplay XP. Also just fun
It’s a good game but the stealth absolutely sucks for me, and my greatest fantasy is being a cool stealthy assassin but for some reason stabbing a guard in the neck and it only takes down half health ruins it for me. Also hate the damage sponges.
Please don't be okay with games like AC:O. You can have the nice setting and action combat WITHOUT the childish writing, bloat, grind and repetitive game design.
To be fair it was loved when it came out like REALLY loved I thought it was good but my favourite ac games are still the ezio trilogy. That brutus armour in brothhood was tasty. Remember people where hating on the old style ac games by the time origins and odyssey came out then people got burnt out by valhalla and ubisoft games became so dull. For me the last ubisoft games I truly enjoyed was valhalla (yeah I loved role-playing a viking and I'd been in jail for 8 years so I didn't have any bias), phoenix rising and farcry 5. Last one I brought was the Avatar game and as cool as it was running around Pandora my god it was boring quick. The only game I really want to try if they release it is beyond good and evil 2 IF its ever released
This game was not for 'Assassin's Creed the early games' fans. It's for the newer fans to introduce them to the franchise itself.
For RPG fans, this game was superb.
Crazy rankings
I love this game, but I love it as a Greek themed RPG lite, not an Assassins Creed game, it features almost nothing from the series, but if you look at it on its own its pretty fun
How was the ship combat though? That was the best part of AC4
The hell? This was the best of the AC rpgs.
Best open map, combination of seafaring and land based mechanics, a decent story with some flexibility
Just pure chefs kiss
odessey is the best game i ever played genuely recomend it
Assasins creed odyssey f'ing rules.
i actually enjoyed the first 40hrs but man when it hit the 50hr mark and i still had to grind and grind i just got fed up, the last 30hrs felt super rough and i had to drag myself to finish it.
It took me on and off many months to finish it.
wdym grind the games super easy and the level grind is pretty fast,
@@NoahBerzerk grinding isn't about difficulty it's about fun, and the grind in this game and most games are far from anything fun
Damnit Lock, now I want to play this game again (and finally finish it). These videos you do are great, I want more!
All I remember is that it looked too much like Origin (I think they made this because they had most of the assets already). It sounded great, but I had no idea what the story was or how it ended. Once you learn about two moves, you just spam them.
City wise and best AC is Unity. The best open-world AC is Origins.
“Was Assassins Creed Odyssey really THAT GOOD?”
Fixed it for you
This was one of the best games I've ever played
I got accustomed to ignore the AC premise of this franchise to just focus on the game itself since Black Flag. On top of that I'm a fan of things related to Greek mythology. Still thought the game was an uninteresting and cringy waste of time.
It is not. It's my second favourite. Syndicate being the best imo
Loved this game. IT's better than Witcher 3 IMO. First Assassin's Creed I actually enjoyed
This game is amazing. But the reason why it received so much hate was because the old school gamers what a nostalgia trip they don’t like change well change a part of life and deal with it it’s not rocket science unless you make it rocket science
Not at all. AC Odyssey is one of my favorite games that I have ever played!
This is my favorite game from AC. The whole vibe of Ancient Greece and the way they made everything is amazing. I’ll just walk around when it’s sunset and chill in random towns. I love this game.
One of the greatest games ever made
Odyssey is my favorite AC game
I love this game and I don't care what anyone says
No, it’s not that bad… in fact it’s pretty brilliant
I bought Odyssey on a whim while waiting for RDR2 to drop the next month. I didn't expect much but I fell in love with it, putting in well over 100 hours. Unfortunately since then, Open World burnout became a thing, and I don't think I could ever go back to Odyssey. It takes a REALLY special game like Elden Ring for me to bypass that burnout.
However, I will still always cherish my time spent with Odyssey!
This and origins are the best ones in the series imo
I like the OG AC games but I just felt they kind of got a little stale after a while. Odyssey and origins are probably my number 2 favorite assassin's creed games. Mainly because I really love the Witcher 3 and they have inspiration from that so to me those 2 are my favorites. Valhalla was just way too bloated It took me a 100 plus hours just to complete the main quest in some side quest.
Is one of the less fun one, too much bloat. As much as people complain of Valhalla, you can avoid most of the bloat. In Odyssey you can't, the Mercenaries system is awfully annoying and playing on normal makes every enemy a chore. After lowering enemy level scaling and the difficulty makes way more enjoying, you can stealth one hit kill almost every enemy.
I think you just don’t know how to make proper builds. With a stealth build you can on shot mercenaries.
@@michaelmiller4105 How much time did it take for you to get such a build?
@@Ok_waffle just collect the pilgrim set.
This is still my favorite Assassin's Creed game.
Actually odyssey is my favorite it’s so fun and funny and the story is good in my opinion you get to feel like a god
Who said it's bad everyone I know either like or love it
Yes, it's part of review bombing culture, with a few control freaks, who are casual gamers/never played, wanting to play God and influence others. Hope no one who'd love Odyssey missed out. Best map ever in gaming, huge and filled with unique statues and buildings. Great story(s). Might even be a myth itself that it's hated, especially amongst players.
Odyssey great for me but Valhalla hell no it draining asf man i spent 40 that DLC i couldn't do it anymore
Valhalla was my favorite of the three. It’s a game that isn’t meant to be played at all at once. I played it over a year and had sooooooo much fun. As a Viking game it’s amazing and the world is gorgeous. It’s not perfect but the updates they added helped as well. I loved the lore and the totally different feeling I got in that one than any other one. And that’s what I like is when each one feels like a different game
@@letschatMwithJ So if you play it less you'll have more fun😂
@@Ok_waffle no you obviously did not read it. I put over 200 hours into the game but over a longer period. And it was very enjoyable. I didn’t rush through and just enjoyed the world.
@@Ok_waffle well, Ody, Ori, and Val are huge games, so 'less' is still 10x more than most games. You can get bored of some games that are 100 percented in a day. Certainly a good idea to do something else for awhile, like go outside, or eat LOL.
I feel like a lot of folks are recently going back to this game. I’ve put about 20 hours in over the past few days and have been loving it.
This game was definitely awesome. Great video Lock!!
Origins and odyssey are my favorite AC games
This is the best out of any of the new ones
This is where Assassins Creed lost its identity, Ubisoft wanted to copy popular western RPGS and be more RPG driven, this made Odyssey a receptacle of everything popular in the western rpg market but doing so killed the games identity.
When you become a receptacle of everything, you are nothing.
I'm over seeing things I grew up enjoying, having a soul and unique identity, get thrown to the way side all because of profits and the need to maximize earnings.
Love the game but 15-20 hours too long. The map is insane!
This game was fun if you ignored the assassin stuff and were there for the adventurer/Greek God power fantasy. Of all the AC games this was the most not AC, I think it could've stood to be a better game and its own series if they just made it an rpg going through different mythos, with its own storyline.
one of my favorite modern action rpgs.
As someone who has been a fan since AC 3 release and a history fan even before that Origins and Odyssey was great because I initially didn’t like the whole change from old to the new games but the settings won me over. Valhalla though was just a boring game for me and I did finish the game but not the DLC since I just got bored
Lockmort, it's great hearing you on here! You and Matty teaming up was absolutely a genius move. This is the first of your (Lockmort) videos I've caught on this channel and I love it. The fact that Matty can step away a bit to work on his dozens of other things while you get to have more media presence and show your skills go beyond editing and podcasting, just wonderful. Look forward to more from you both!
By far my favorite game in the series. So much fun.
The majority thinks this is the best game 😂 mattys wild
This game is amazing. It gets way too much hate and its mostly from RUclips from a small minority from my experience. Odyssey is the spartan assassin experience in AC. It focuses on a protagonist 400 years before Bayek and Aya form the Hidden Ones. The game does what it wants and does it really well. If the game had been more like Origins, many people wouldn't complain. The soundtrack, world, protagonist, and the main story were all amazing to me. Stealth kill animations and combat animations were awesome. The game focuses on other aspects of AC lore that never get touched. I personally wish Alexios and Kassandra were both playable. If Alexios had been the older brother that was a mercenary and Kassandra was a protege of Darius, I think it would work. There would have to be a few tweaks to the story but Kassandra with a wrist blade and Alexios with the spear of Leonidas makes perfect sense to me. Alexios can have Ikaros and Kassandra have normal eagle vision. The map for Odyssey was never bloated for me. At least it's map doesn't look as cluttered as Unity. My opinion for any AC game is don't listen to reviews, especially those on RUclips. Every game since Unity will sit a few years before people start accepting that the games are great. I think you perfectly stated what it's like for AC. If you like a specific setting or period, you'll probably like that game more than others.
This is actually one of my favorite ac games granted I’m a huge fan of Greek mythology
It actually surprised me i really really liked it its good i liked it more than valhalla much more .. . It did bum me out that it didnt have assassins in it but after a while it was amazing i loved its first dlc its second is ugh
The grind is what killed this game for me
Just say you don't like real RPGs.
@@ourshit5725 i love rpgs and usualy actualy enjoy grinding but it aint fun in this one
@@ourshit5725 We don't like bad RPGs.
I dont care what anybody says, this game Rocks!
Still play it to this day.
I have played all AC games across multiple platforms. AC Odyssey is the last game in the series I was extremely excited about. Having played and finished it on the PS4, playing as Kassandra was an absolute joy! She's my favorite character in the entire series! I would also say Odyssey was the last great ac game.
Incredible game. Period.
Brah the hate goes so deep people think mirage is better than Odyssey
Despite how vastly different it was from core AC, Origins is the only of the "new" era ones that I like. Unity was ridiculously disparate, no sense of story progression because you could just jump into any memory anytime and the map was just overwhelming to look at.
I want a nice clean AC map with the only things with a waypoint being the main quest. Any side content should be unmarked and you have to remember clues in a journal to progress in them. And as you said, back to the emphasis on stealth and finding that perfect route to get behind the next obstacle.
This
It's my favorite assassin, and that not because I'm Greek. My second favorite is Origins.
I just revisited AC2 and it still blows the new RPG games out of the water imo
AC2 and Brotherhood are so good
@sideshow8382 that brutes armour in beothhood is sexy
No.
No it isn’t.
Awesome vid, Lock!
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS