Yes he showed himself for sure. I also have huge issues with putting fake nails on that toddler. Nail places should have an age requirement for anything other than paint on thier nails, no matter parental permission. It should be 14 at the very least in my opinion.
I wish Helen had gone to school and wouldn’t have to marry that man boy. He was so quick to raise his hand to her and push her, and he stole from the dealer as well. She deserves so much better, her lifestyle seems so exhausting 😢
I don't know if it is true, but a response to a comment above said that they divorced shortly after getting married. Wouldn't be surprised with the immaturity of the husband and then adding twin babies into it. Can't imagine the struggles she probably had.
Right?! He was rude and obnoxious he stole. He did all kinds of funky c***. I would not have let my daughter marry someone that did all that within the first few weeks that's horrible
When Helen's husband was asked if he would ever consider living in a house, he said "of course, if the council gave us one". That shows it's not about being "travelers", they simply don't want to pay any housing costs. Yet they all play dumb and act like they don't know what the problem is.
And then they'll look you right in the eye and say "its all persecution. were honest people. Were never given a chance" I find it hard to not find that dishonerable.
That’s why they are incarcerated at a disproportionately higher rate than the general population: they make up approximately 0.1% of the population, but 5% of the prison population.
America, usa has similar issues, groups, and all we hear is it's racism. Innocent. Our cops now have body cames. And we are seeing a lit of "unarmed innocents" Turns out running at a cop with mace, knife, gun, teyongnti run a cop over, etc will get you shot. Doesn't stop our lying media from. Claiming persecution, and unfair, racism. Etc etc
They’re all way to forgiving towards that David kid. Him raising his hand and pushing her, stealing while his soon to be brother in law buys something. I would have lost it. Shameful
@@amandab8433 wow divorced was she disowned by the community afterwards ?? i also hate how they treat the girls like they are possessions rather thank people and they are made to belive that they are worthless if they are not married at a very young age its disgusting and disturbing behaviour. Also they always say they show their love etc by getting married some of these girls have no idea who they are getting married to as they only met them 6 weeks before the wedding thats not love plus at 15 / 16 what do these teens know about love and adult relationships many are still acting like children yes they are children in many ways plus the girls have no education so if they did want out how can they make it alone,?? she would be rejected by her people and would have to support herself and probably a brood of kids since thats their purpose in life get married young have as many kids as possible and be a slave to her husband, they are not allowed a education as in their culture she doesnt need one as shes isnt allowed to work so she is basically raised to be stuck in a world where she has no rights and has no chance of bettering herself and she has to be totally supported by her husband if she wants out she is rejected by everyone and then left to fend for herself.😳 Personally i think its crazy and just like any abusive relationship they are isolated from every day life and cant do anything for herself. I knew a girl on school from a traveling family when she was 14 her parents wanted her to leave school she didnt want that she told me when she was 16 if my parents had their way id be like my sister with no education married at 15 and stuck at home with a guy who grabbed me at a party therefore because her wanted her she had to marry him, she didnt even know his full name when they got married a week later, she had no choice now she has 3 kids to a man she hates but she cant escape as divorce is bad and she will be rejected by everyone so im staying in school if they like it or not as far as they know im out somewhere with froends they dont know im here, i will finish school and i will get a job so i can support myself and help get my sister out. By then we will be both rejected me because i stayed in school my sister because she wants a divorce. I refuse to go to family get yogethers as im scared to death that some guy will grab me then id be forced to marry him if i have to go i hide the whole time. One guy did try to grab me once i told him i was taken so dont think about it touching me thankfully he belueved me ive learnt how to make myself vomit so when there is a event i start a few days before been sick that way I can stay home my parents have no idea im faking. She got all her gcses and she got high marks the day we got our exam results was the day her parents found out shed been in school as her tteacher called her parents to tell them how proud she was, oh all hell broke out her teacher felt so bad after, thankfully she had already got herself a job, folled in all the forms to get benifits and found a hoyse to stay in so when her parents told her she had to choose between her getting married or been rejected she said and i quote great thanks for giving me a choice in what I want to do in my life , that new I've never had a choice before, well i choose option 2 ive already packed and i already have a new home set up and by the way im taking my sister with me, since you are more worried about your reputation than you are about your daughter who is beaten by the bastard you made her marry, seriously he grabbed her at a wedding sexually assaulted her and you said aww thats so nice look hes showing affection toward you, do you know how fucked up that is , and now he beats her every day have you seen the bruises all up her back ,legs ,arms etc oh of course not because she has to hide them so your reputation stay intact, he been cheating on her since day one, he rapes her and all you said was you can't be raped by your husband he has a right to do that to you, well screw your reputation and screw you, i refuse to stand by and watch my sister who i love more than anything be beaten and raped anymore you made her marry that bastard when she was 15 and he was 19 all because he said i want her, you made it out that sexual assault was as romantic as if hed arranged a candle lit dinner in a fancy restaurant, you are disgusting, you are failures at been parents and most of all you are from now on no longer my parents or her parents, with that she pucked up her bags and walked out she went two doors down knowing her sisters husband was away on some horse show thing she helped her pack up her and the kids belongings shed hired a van and had a trusted friend help her and drive it her parents didnt try stop themas they belived her sister would never leave her husband knowing they would be rejected and disowned lol. Her sister knowing the plan had started packing the day before as soon as he left and he wasn't due back for two days within 3 hours she had packed up all her things and all the kids stuff including toys etc are just left his stuff behind since she didn't own anything all the house stuff was also left behind then they left she left a note saying she wouldn't be back and don't look for them, she left all the credit cards etc saying she hadnt taken any money, she also said she was keeping the rings as her solicitor said that was fine so she was keeping them as compensation for everything he put her through, she locked the door and posted the keys. The first thing she did was pawn them they were expensive rings both platinum and diamond and she got several thousand for them the furst money she had ever had that was her own. Then they drove to their new home they didn't give the address to anyone although their phones soon started blowing up as her parents went to the sisters house to give her something and since there was no answer they let themselves in with their key and say the note and that everything belonging to her and the kids gone they were furious they told the husband and he was sending threatening calls and messages she blocked the numbers then turned her phone off when they got the house sorted they went shopping and the sister got them both new phones so they couldn't be tracked and posted their phones back to him with a joke saying here is your phone back since you paid for it you can have my sisters too now I don't have to listen to or read anything from you again now stop trying to find me or I will get you arrested as for something you don't know everytime you hit me I took photos of the result and gave them to the police telling them keep them on file for after I escape so they have over a years worth of evidence so has my solicitor so you will never see me or the kids again and by 5pm tonight ( she posted next day signed for delivery ) you will receive both a restraing order, divorce papers and papers stating you hand over all parent responsibility to me just signed them and get ut over with the courts have all the evidence so I get the kids you don't get to see them ever and I've told them I don't want a penny from you as I don't want anything to do with you so sign it and get on with your life, and dont bother harassing my parents they disowned us and have no idea where I am so its not worth you trying to find me as i am way way out of your reach and you will never find me. They had moved 4 hours away and we stayed in touch for a while bith had jobs the kids were in school all of them changed their names so they couldn't be found, and all of them were very happy the husband did sign everything so that was good that he didn't cause issue but he probably did it to avoid going to prison again as she did say she would press charges he had a choice sign the papers or face 15-20 years in prison if he didn't nice bit of blackmail 🤣🤣
'It took 3 weeks to get pregnant, that's way too long' Tell me you don't know how ovulation works without telling me you don't know how ovulation works.
@@delledaye2035 you'd be surprised, my husband are Pakistani and I got pregnant with my first baby on the 3rd month of trying so technically 2months trying got married at the very end of September and found out I was pregnant at end of December and for them that was " too long" they were starting to get concerned something was wrong with me and I wouldn't be able to have children and would ask me since the day I got married if I had " any news" Some cultures are like this and it's shocking.
Maybe they need to have metal poles up around the parks so they travellers can’t get in, they do this on trails in our area so vehicles can’t get on them,
I worked in a retail store in northern Virginia and we always went on high alert when they came through. They had a reputation for stealing anything they could..
Im middle-eastern and my family's views are very much aligned. All of it was designed to keep us unempowered and reliant on men. From the age of 5 i was talked to about learning to cook and clean so i would be a good wife and bring my family honor. If I misbehaved, my father, younger brother, and eventually my husband would be fully entitled to use physical force. (Not all middle-eastern families are like mine of course). I ran away at 16, with my American boyfriend (now husband of 25 years), finished high school, went to college, and am an IT Executive. I wish these girls knew what they are capable of. Leaving home was the best thing I could have ever done for myself, my daughter, and the future girls in our family.
I am very proud of you, even though I only know you through this text. You did so well and sacrificed so much. Someone in Germany wants you to feel hugged ❤
@@Hoonqueen agree. Sucks for the one's that are just trying to live simply, peacefully, and neat and tidy! Love and light to you and all those that are just trying to get by and have their own human experience for a bit.
Shooting off fireworks at passing vehicles, trying to shoplift at local businesses and leaving all their garbage & junk for someone else to clean up, gee I wonder why the community doesn’t want them.
Wtf it's not child abuse the reason why ppl don't wear there seat belts (sometimes) is because of the police evicting us even. If we're in a site that's leagel
I wish the best for Helen. David seems really aggressive and honestly presents himself as a violent and horrid boy-man. I hope Helen realises her worth and moves on with her life, she has soo much potential.
I can’t believe the nail tech agreed to do that baby’s nails 😭painting them fine but extensions??? Absolutely not, I am a beautician and this is sooooo crazy to me
I feel so sad for Helen :( she seemed like such a sweet gentle soul and didn't look very happy when she fell pregnant and her husband seems horrible. Poor girl, I hope she's living a happier life now.
I agree. There are some huge red flags. The whole “ she doesn’t really have a choice when she talks about nit wanting a ton of kids”. Then he tells her to shut up over and over and raises his hand to her. She even backs away showing that she does not 100% trust him. ! This girl is going to marry this dill hole. And he’s going to emotionally,verbally, and quite possibly physically abuse her. And then under the guise of “gypsy’s don’t divorce, they work it out” and having no Skills and no money, she’s trapped to remain in servitude to an abusive husband. Great culture,...not! There is no part of this culture that should be envied.
The way they are still treated is so bad, been kicked out of everywhere. They should be places for them to stay, with rules of course and cleanliness of the places been enforced. Traveller's and gypsies are nice people and like every other human being have qualities and faults. I wish people would give them a chance, I think more exchange have to happen between each sides.
That wee boy that was talking about wanting to stick in at school and be a lawyer broke my heart 💙 I was shocked seeing the small girl drinking a can of Red bull 😱
The red bull got me you see all the teenage girls always drinking red bull and I saw the little girl and was like you’ve got to be kidding me for real!?
That’s what I was saying also!! Those are terrible for your heart they cause arrhythmias I do not drink them at all and I would never allow my children to drink them.
The fireworks stunt was awful!! No freaking wonder no one wants them squatting in public places. Buy some land and set up your campers or rent a spot a mobile home park….they’re not going to because that would mean paying for themselves. This is craziness!
Why don’t you buy land! Or is the point to steal public land for a living. And but toilets - like the ones people use on a river trips. Everyone clearly has money. All love ❤
The reason why that dude has been able to get surgery is because he doesn’t pay taxes. That’s also why the councils and communities don’t like them. People pay taxes, municipality taxes etc. To keep streets and public parks maintained. These bums just move around, make a mes, neglect their children and break the law. Their ‘way of live’ is designed to oppress women and not to have pay their way. Disgusting.
Also they can get away with literally murder. They all have the same name and some of them aren’t even registered as they’re not born in a hospital. It’s quite scary to think! They’re basically squatters in their own country…
I would love for TLC to updates on all the women in these episodes and provide them support to leave if they want to. I hope she is able to get away from David. The comment about her not having a choice about how many kids they have was disgusting.
@catherinebranson3257 Not paying taxes and stealing, not paying rent or mortgage, etc. Watch the video - they even state that they have *more* money than the average person because of all these things. And they *still* steal. Absolutely horrendous.
@@WildVeewith your hateful disgusting post you just told me who YOU are. Racist people tend to generalize different cultures and talk down on others. Bless your non-existing heart.
I just felt sad for him. He sounded so smart and passionate for his age.. and sadly he will probably end up miserable moving from place to place doing odd jobs. I hope not.
Helen is one of the sweetest, prettiest traveller brides I've seen and I hope that her new family brings her a lifetime of happiness. It would be lovely to get an update on her story. ❤
I've watched a few of these and it sounds like they hold no accountability for their negative actions. They seem to think everything is about discrimination right up until they describe their reputation for being rowdy and messy and just out of order. Very very fascinating.
It seems that many traveller family groups DO do harm, in the parks, and DO make noise in the hours that the sourrounding houses are putting the young to sleep, or the adults turning in for the night, AND many DO leave a mess, when they leave. Some residents complain about break-ins, having to lick doors,girls parading around in revealing clothes...That older girl seems less honest, that she says they do no harm.
Their views on why women don’t get pregnant right away, is the most disgusting thing about this. That screams volumes. See kids, THIS is why we stay in school.
Staying in school has nothing to do with getting pregnant in the 60s girls were getting pregnant then and to this day they are still getting pregnant while being in school they are even younger
Oh yes..because if you stay in schooling you can get a whole different sortt of brainwashed..but at least you will become a good life long minion for the corporations..a wage slave.obedient and unquestioning the status quo.
The child neglect of that little toddler who was being forced to get false acrylic nails done whilst she screamed! She was picking up rubbish on the roadside and pushing a can around in a dolls pram for fun, drinking red bull, being ignored, walking amongst the fireworks on the streets in no coat when the mum had said it’s freezing and the way the mum kept saying the kids still aren’t in bed they’re going to conk out in a minute she was so tired and it was so late 😩💔 so cruel
@@Daphne12367 of course, obviously which is great, Except she wasn’t pushing a “doll” in a pram was she, she was pushing around an empty red bull can in it 😩 that was my point!
As someone who got married at 18 myself . Her husband is an absolute immature child . I feel bad for her , he has no manners and she will be picking up after him for the rest of her life , if it lasts . This is all she knows.
Just never understood why they couldn’t all pool resources to buy a plot of land where they weren’t harassed?? Wouldn’t that be on the list first thing for these men that only want to take care of their family???
He wasn't joking. This community is uneducated, they don't know you can't always get pregnant on the first night, so for him 21 tries or at least 21 possible tries is a long time and of course they blame the woman only. I wonder what happens if the man is infertile@@emakelley6807
I really cant understand why Jimmy thought that those kids shooting fireworks at cars wasn't dangerous! Like what? 🤦♂️ That could easily cause an accident, a fire, or damage to the car! Not to mention how scary that would be to the people driving!
I love watching these docs on travellers but my god how can they not realize why people can’t stand them. Stealing after that guy gave them a deal? Disgusting. And it’s a mom and pop dealership as well? Disgusting
@@Daphne12367 I agree, I've met some lovely, kind travellers. But, the problem is, the ones who do these kinds of things give a bad name to all travellers and it's a real shame. Some people feel so entitled to do whatever they want without considering other peoples feelings :(
“Shut up, you!” he says, and winds up a backhand, causing her to shrink back and duck. A moment later he shoves her. Well this doesn’t bode well. I hope she is safe now.
I don't understand why some travellers don't consider buying and establishing sites for their community. Wouldn't it provide some stability for the children?
He was the brother-in-law but I agree. He wasn’t helping himself with drinking so much and binge-eating but there’s usually roots reasons to this. I did feel for him when he explained what his motivation is for losing it.
It’s what he has seen his father has done to his mother! Totally bloody DISGUSTING! The guys need to GROW up from stupid fighting (boxing) - Come on you guys - to be real men you need to love and nurture your wife and children. GROW UP
“ it’s not fair that we can’t stay in a public area for free, setting off fireworks at passing cars and leaving trash everywhere.” like, perhaps, if you didn’t do that then you would be able to stay somewhere. Buy a piece of land and live there with your family. That’s all that the government is asking. Everyone else has to do it. Why are you an exception? also to expect somewhere free to stay makes no sense. Nobody else gets that for a reason.
It’s hard for me to be on their side when they are stealing from the ones they are doing business with and shooting fireworks at peoples’ cars (this is so dangerous). The kid is right, they do deserve a place to stay so they can receive rightful education. I mean they don’t even understand how their own bodies work when it comes to reproduction. And, don’t get me started on that toddler drinking red bull. I want better for them but you can only help the ones who want to help themselves at the end of the day :(
I didn't even catch the toddler drinking Red Bull. I drank soda as a toddler, but didn't drink an energy drink until I was 7. Even then it was because at the time it was me, my 12 year old brother, and my dad trying to raised the two of us alone while grieving. They were around and I thought it was just soda in a different kinda can. Now when I look back I cringe a bit about how I would drink around 2 energy drinks as a kid because no one was there to stop me and I'd fight my brother about it if he said no, but I know that at least in my family's case my dad was trying his best. He got remarried within a couple years and got his shit together. Now my little sister (half sister, but I don't concern myself with halfs, she's just my sister) isn't allowed to drink any soda. She's 13 and still hasn't had a drop of soda past 7up or ginger ale when trying to settle her stomach. Meanwhile I'm sitting here typing this with a sugar free Mount Dew and a cup of cold brew next to me.
If they pay ground rent then they can stay and help their kids get to school on time. Why should the tax payers have to clean up after them and give them public spaces they pay for…for them to clutter up with their antics. You can tell the kids have had enough. This lifestyle is outdated.
Omg my heart leapt in my throat when he tried to hit her. I flinched like he was going to hit me. I could never sleep next to a man that did that. I’d be gone by morning. Never look back. A man should be a woman’s safe protector. At least my husband is.
Seeing that small child with a red bull drink is why he is so hyper. And I loved the other boy who was talking about what he wanted when he grew up. He was breathtaking that he didn't want to live the traveler lifestyle.
David is physically pushing Helen around and ordering her about before the wedding, I can't imagine he won't get violent after he is married. I hope better for her, but guessing in time he will become outright abusive. He is already a thief, and he's only 18. Disgusting. Helen is foolish to marry this loser. She is so nice and deserves a lot better.
I’m not a prejudiced person by nature but in my whole life EVERY TIME travellers rock up nearby there are break-ins, thefts, flytipping and generally obnoxious behaviour - even from little kids. Every single time. Sometimes prejudices exist for a reason…
I've lived next door to a camp my whole life and haven't had a issue yeah I've seen fights a lot of fights lol but that's from within their own community, I actually get my hair done in one of the girls caravans she's the best at big bouncy blowouts 🤷 I'm not a traveller they have a camp right at the opening of a estate I'm the first house most of them have a house here now tho the council built bungalows for them
Totally understanding you. In Costa Rica 🇨🇷 we don't need gypsies since we have more than enough with nicaraguans. They litter, rob, steal, break-in, Rword, and don't even care to raise their kids, some even sell them.
well they don't work...so they're either actually stealing or living off of the government which is still, in my eyes, stealing. I don't see a single disability or justifiable reason that they can't work, other than they wanna travel around and live freely. yeah, well so do I. that's not the way it works, unfortunately. I just can't stand people who know the rules and still try to skirt around them. literally in the beginning, they said they just got evicted from their last place and council already clocked them at the new one, and they know they're gonna get evicted again, but they're still going at it. clearly they don't want you doing this and there's just zero regard.
Gives you food for thought about other prejudices... the most bigoted thing a person can do when someone says 'I don't like X people' is dismiss them and not ask WHY! Pattern recognition is the basis of all intelligence!
The fireworks are a demonstration of defiance, disrespect and highly dangerous… and they wonder why communities don’t want them around… I’m sure they’re not all this wreckless and entitled, but one rotten apple spoils the bunch!
The problem with travellers is, when they leave a site, I'm told that the council have to clean up the mess left behind, plus do the travellers pay ANY council tax or road tax because they should.
Helen's dress is the prettiest dress I have seen on any of these shows. It's not extremely big like a lot of them and she should have no problems walking down the isle. I wish her and her family luck.
Are there no rv parks throughout the country? In the US, you can travel park to park where they have hook-ups for water/sewage. Some parks have bath houses and laundromats on site as well. To me, it would be worth the minimal cost to not have to move every other day.
You forget they're thieving scum who refuse to fork out for basic necessities everyone else has to pay for. They'd rather play victim while splashing out on luxuries
Yeah they just don't want to pay rent like the rest of the world has to. Its all about a free ride so they can waste money on extravagant child weddings
I get the other stuff they do is wrong... stealing, abuse, littering, the fireworks, etc... But how is it wrong for them to be on public property? If it was private property I'd understand... but it's literally public property. 🤷🏼♀️
I mean, their problems are their own fault. Do they not get it? "We want more public land where we can crash, rent free, tax free, paid for by people who live in houses, but complain about people who live in houses for not liking us being around..."
Little kids aren't in car seats. People don't dislike them for no reasons. Parks are for everyone to enjoy. That can't happen if you're living there. You can see a trail left behind them when they leave a site.
Shooting fireworks at cars? Hm can't imagine why people don't want them around. Who just expects people to let the live rent free while they trash the place?
12 cans of red bull a day, McDonalds for breakfast and dinner, chocolates for lunch. The baby has a 2 liter of soda pop just walking around, in another clip she’s sipping a red bull and pushing in her little dolly carriage like it’s her baby, and getting full on acrylic tips at the nail salon. Are these people that uneducated or that out of touch with reality ? You can’t give a toddler red bull. all the other stuff is bad, but the red bull for a toddler? I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid.
Wow! I missed that part. I gotta watch that again. These people are so willfully ignorant. They keep and women pregnant and uneducated to control them and keep them in an abusive marriage. Giving Redbull to a toddler, that's a whole other level of stupid.
It doesn’t seem like they’re doing any harm but imagine if they moved into an empty spot opposite your house how would you feel? It happened to me once about 10 years ago and trust me it was nothing but bad. When they finally left the place looked like trash, they didn’t clean up after them selves one little bit. The local counsel had to come in and clean it up and of course they don’t pay any local taxes
@@Tina-wi5ng Homelessness isn’t a culture nobody raises their child to become homeless It’s a completely different problem. Also Gypsies aren’t poor a lot of them have lots of money probably cause they don’t pay any rent or tax
I was wondering about that - how they treat the places they stay. Part of me would like to see their culture preserved, perhaps some compromises could be made - like they can only stay a certain amount of time and must adhere to the law but I’m not sure it’s possible.
@@blondesense1708 I don't know if this is the case in the UK, but here in the US, they could go to a trailer park or campsite and rent a lot. Not only that, they could park at a truck stop, a mall parking lot, etc. It wouldn't be so bad if it was a single trailer, but parking 5 or 6 trailers and cars on the grass in a public park is just ridiculous.
For those who ask why aren't they given a spot to stay, here's a few bits of information that they've said in other videos that probably sum it up. *They are called travelers because their culture tells them to be nomads, even if they hay a spot where they could park, they would move again in a few months. *It's been noted that they do not want to pay taxes, so even if they had land they could stay in, they wouldn't want to pay housing or city taxes. *Most children don't finish their education, since it is required by law that children attend to school, it is easier to get the kids pulled out of school if they don't have an address to report and schools usually assume they moved again. *Because of their way of life and their reputation for trashing places, people don't want them as neighbors since their presence alone decreases the value of their property. *They usually own businesses and moving allows them to get clients before people find out they are gypsies/travelers. Of course these are observations made by the people on the videos and while there are unproblematic members of the community out there, this show is about those who for the stereotypes.
Travellers have been here since the Great Fire of London , they were instrumental in rebuilding. When King William of Orange sent from Holland to be the British King - he sent protestants to invade Eire, many fled Eire (Catholics) to the UK , Meanwhile Roma came to the UK in the 1500s , welcomed and then like travellers persecuted. They "travelled to stop themselves being killed by the establishment. Even catching a rabbit could see them hung or deported to Australia. There is always a back story.
The men are all disgusting lazy and entitled. The women are abused physically, and emotionally. The children are wild, abusive toward each other, and have very unhealthy views on life. Not to mention very unhealthy diets. My heart breaks for the women, and children. The whole traveler lifestyle is horrific. Srsly, who wants to live in that chaos. I don’t get it. 😢
Yea I think if they were willing to pay taxes/rent it would be ok because even here in the states there are R/V parks, you pay a small fee and can stay there as long as you want. But they want to live there for free and that’s just not how things work now.
Where do they get the money for these costly weddings? They don't stay anywhere long enough to work. And weight-loss surgery?! How do they pay for that?
This trespasser's lack of sympathy for previous bad experience(s) with travelers, & dismissiveness of the council employee b/c "he just mows the grass" is upsetting.
Was just going to write this, it was so upsetting seeing her so upset and not wanting them done either. So irresponsible and disgusting. Putting them on is one thing but you have to soak the nails off in chemicals etc it surely can't be good for their little nails and skin like who does that to their babies.
The pushing doesn’t bother me.. me n my bf of 10 years push each other when we are playing but the raising his hand to her and her flinching like that bothered me
I can't imagine living like this! Helen!! You are sooooo beautiful and smart----WHY are you marrying this guy you barely know?!? You deserve so much better!! Also---those nails on that baby!!!! Are you SERIOUS mom????
I once did speak to a Dutch traveller who had studied economics in the university. He was kicked out of the camp for betraying his social status. He was not supposed to study, and his parents were also expelled. I do not know how that would work out nowadays, but back in the 70s it was next to impossible for a Dutch traveller doing something else but being a roofer or executing such a profession, mostly while receiving money from the state, working illegally and not paying taxes, but expecting being respected.
I worked at a restaurant in college and one day a large group of about 30 of them came in. They complained from the time they arrived. Made a mess out of the dinning room and we had to call the cops on them because they refused to pay the bill, started breaking things and Eventually the manger agreed to comp half the bill and they paid and left.
I didn't like them forcing that little girl to have false nails. I mean if she wanted them and was enjoying the process fair enough it's their choice I suppose, wouldn't do it myself but ok. Seeing her holding her hand in place while she screamed was just really distressing 💜
That young man was far too fast at raising his hand to her. His face even showed anger. I do not trust him.
💯 agree
Domestic physical abuse is seen as normal in the travelling community unfortunately.
Yes he showed himself for sure. I also have huge issues with putting fake nails on that toddler. Nail places should have an age requirement for anything other than paint on thier nails, no matter parental permission. It should be 14 at the very least in my opinion.
When was it? I missed it
@@kaya7249 @7:30 on the video.
I wish Helen had gone to school and wouldn’t have to marry that man boy. He was so quick to raise his hand to her and push her, and he stole from the dealer as well. She deserves so much better, her lifestyle seems so exhausting 😢
I don't know if it is true, but a response to a comment above said that they divorced shortly after getting married. Wouldn't be surprised with the immaturity of the husband and then adding twin babies into it. Can't imagine the struggles she probably had.
It scared me when he raised his arm to hit her I actually flinched with her 😢
Right?! He was rude and obnoxious he stole. He did all kinds of funky c***. I would not have let my daughter marry someone that did all that within the first few weeks that's horrible
Not divorced. Married, several children and really really happy. Helen is a strong and fiesty young woman :)
that is true however that's their lifestyle and they wont go against tradition
When Helen's husband was asked if he would ever consider living in a house, he said "of course, if the council gave us one". That shows it's not about being "travelers", they simply don't want to pay any housing costs. Yet they all play dumb and act like they don't know what the problem is.
That guy has no shame. The owner of that store gave them a discount and he still tried to steal from him. Smh
And then they'll look you right in the eye and say "its all persecution. were honest people. Were never given a chance" I find it hard to not find that dishonerable.
That’s why they are incarcerated at a disproportionately higher rate than the general population: they make up approximately 0.1% of the population, but 5% of the prison population.
@@j.lingle4713 that is absolutely hilarious
Absolutely no class. Scum. That’s just scummy behavior. Her father should cancel the wedding.
America, usa has similar issues, groups, and all we hear is it's racism.
Innocent.
Our cops now have body cames. And we are seeing a lit of "unarmed innocents"
Turns out running at a cop with mace, knife, gun, teyongnti run a cop over, etc will get you shot.
Doesn't stop our lying media from. Claiming persecution, and unfair, racism. Etc etc
They’re all way to forgiving towards that David kid. Him raising his hand and pushing her, stealing while his soon to be brother in law buys something. I would have lost it. Shameful
He is what we call a 'scab' in Australia.!
The baby getting acrylic nails shocked me the most I think
Thank you!
Absolutely inappropriate 😏😏
Agreed.
And the baby drinking a redbull 36:14
It literally burns if the stylist files it too much, it probably burns because her nail beds are too thin 😢
Toxins are absorbed through the nail, realistically no-one should put things on their nails that will end up causing disease...🫠
He will beat the shit out of her after marriage. He knows her for weeks and it’s pushing and raising his hand to her! Sad and appalling!
They divorced not long after they got married. This is from 2013
@@amandab8433 can you tell us more? Like why and when exactly
@@amandab8433 Where's the proof? Someone else said they're together still & have 5 kids.
@@amandab8433 wow divorced was she disowned by the community afterwards ??
i also hate how they treat the girls like they are possessions rather thank people and they are made to belive that they are worthless if they are not married at a very young age its disgusting and disturbing behaviour. Also they always say they show their love etc by getting married some of these girls have no idea who they are getting married to as they only met them 6 weeks before the wedding thats not love plus at 15 / 16 what do these teens know about love and adult relationships many are still acting like children yes they are children in many ways plus the girls have no education so if they did want out how can they make it alone,?? she would be rejected by her people and would have to support herself and probably a brood of kids since thats their purpose in life get married young have as many kids as possible and be a slave to her husband, they are not allowed a education as in their culture she doesnt need one as shes isnt allowed to work so she is basically raised to be stuck in a world where she has no rights and has no chance of bettering herself and she has to be totally supported by her husband if she wants out she is rejected by everyone and then left to fend for herself.😳 Personally i think its crazy and just like any abusive relationship they are isolated from every day life and cant do anything for herself. I knew a girl on school from a traveling family when she was 14 her parents wanted her to leave school she didnt want that she told me when she was 16 if my parents had their way id be like my sister with no education married at 15 and stuck at home with a guy who grabbed me at a party therefore because her wanted her she had to marry him, she didnt even know his full name when they got married a week later, she had no choice now she has 3 kids to a man she hates but she cant escape as divorce is bad and she will be rejected by everyone so im staying in school if they like it or not as far as they know im out somewhere with froends they dont know im here, i will finish school and i will get a job so i can support myself and help get my sister out. By then we will be both rejected me because i stayed in school my sister because she wants a divorce. I refuse to go to family get yogethers as im scared to death that some guy will grab me then id be forced to marry him if i have to go i hide the whole time. One guy did try to grab me once i told him i was taken so dont think about it touching me thankfully he belueved me ive learnt how to make myself vomit so when there is a event i start a few days before been sick that way I can stay home my parents have no idea im faking. She got all her gcses and she got high marks the day we got our exam results was the day her parents found out shed been in school as her tteacher called her parents to tell them how proud she was, oh all hell broke out her teacher felt so bad after, thankfully she had already got herself a job, folled in all the forms to get benifits and found a hoyse to stay in so when her parents told her she had to choose between her getting married or been rejected she said and i quote great thanks for giving me a choice in what I want to do in my life , that new I've never had a choice before, well i choose option 2 ive already packed and i already have a new home set up and by the way im taking my sister with me, since you are more worried about your reputation than you are about your daughter who is beaten by the bastard you made her marry, seriously he grabbed her at a wedding sexually assaulted her and you said aww thats so nice look hes showing affection toward you, do you know how fucked up that is , and now he beats her every day have you seen the bruises all up her back ,legs ,arms etc oh of course not because she has to hide them so your reputation stay intact, he been cheating on her since day one, he rapes her and all you said was you can't be raped by your husband he has a right to do that to you, well screw your reputation and screw you, i refuse to stand by and watch my sister who i love more than anything be beaten and raped anymore you made her marry that bastard when she was 15 and he was 19 all because he said i want her, you made it out that sexual assault was as romantic as if hed arranged a candle lit dinner in a fancy restaurant, you are disgusting, you are failures at been parents and most of all you are from now on no longer my parents or her parents, with that she pucked up her bags and walked out she went two doors down knowing her sisters husband was away on some horse show thing she helped her pack up her and the kids belongings shed hired a van and had a trusted friend help her and drive it her parents didnt try stop themas they belived her sister would never leave her husband knowing they would be rejected and disowned lol. Her sister knowing the plan had started packing the day before as soon as he left and he wasn't due back for two days within 3 hours she had packed up all her things and all the kids stuff including toys etc are just left his stuff behind since she didn't own anything all the house stuff was also left behind then they left she left a note saying she wouldn't be back and don't look for them, she left all the credit cards etc saying she hadnt taken any money, she also said she was keeping the rings as her solicitor said that was fine so she was keeping them as compensation for everything he put her through, she locked the door and posted the keys. The first thing she did was pawn them they were expensive rings both platinum and diamond and she got several thousand for them the furst money she had ever had that was her own. Then they drove to their new home they didn't give the address to anyone although their phones soon started blowing up as her parents went to the sisters house to give her something and since there was no answer they let themselves in with their key and say the note and that everything belonging to her and the kids gone they were furious they told the husband and he was sending threatening calls and messages she blocked the numbers then turned her phone off when they got the house sorted they went shopping and the sister got them both new phones so they couldn't be tracked and posted their phones back to him with a joke saying here is your phone back since you paid for it you can have my sisters too now I don't have to listen to or read anything from you again now stop trying to find me or I will get you arrested as for something you don't know everytime you hit me I took photos of the result and gave them to the police telling them keep them on file for after I escape so they have over a years worth of evidence so has my solicitor so you will never see me or the kids again and by 5pm tonight ( she posted next day signed for delivery ) you will receive both a restraing order, divorce papers and papers stating you hand over all parent responsibility to me just signed them and get ut over with the courts have all the evidence so I get the kids you don't get to see them ever and I've told them I don't want a penny from you as I don't want anything to do with you so sign it and get on with your life, and dont bother harassing my parents they disowned us and have no idea where I am so its not worth you trying to find me as i am way way out of your reach and you will never find me. They had moved 4 hours away and we stayed in touch for a while bith had jobs the kids were in school all of them changed their names so they couldn't be found, and all of them were very happy the husband did sign everything so that was good that he didn't cause issue but he probably did it to avoid going to prison again as she did say she would press charges he had a choice sign the papers or face 15-20 years in prison if he didn't nice bit of blackmail 🤣🤣
😢it’s sad.
'It took 3 weeks to get pregnant, that's way too long' Tell me you don't know how ovulation works without telling me you don't know how ovulation works.
Well the girls aren’t educated
i think they dont go to skl thats why they dont ik
I laughed... and then I died inside. How can people still don't know how a Menstrual CYCLE works
That raised my 👀 too... I was like too long 😮
@@delledaye2035 you'd be surprised, my husband are Pakistani and I got pregnant with my first baby on the 3rd month of trying so technically 2months trying got married at the very end of September and found out I was pregnant at end of December and for them that was " too long" they were starting to get concerned something was wrong with me and I wouldn't be able to have children and would ask me since the day I got married if I had " any news" Some cultures are like this and it's shocking.
“We want people to like us. They hate travelers for no reason.”
Leaves trash and lights off fireworks at night in a residential neighborhood 🤦🏼♀️
Maybe they need to have metal poles up around the parks so they travellers can’t get in, they do this on trails in our area so vehicles can’t get on them,
They hate travelers because of their behavior.
I worked in a retail store in northern Virginia and we always went on high alert when they came through. They had a reputation for stealing anything they could..
The way he threw his hand in her face and how fast she reacted makes me feel that’s happened before just off camera, I hope alls well of her and them
Im middle-eastern and my family's views are very much aligned. All of it was designed to keep us unempowered and reliant on men. From the age of 5 i was talked to about learning to cook and clean so i would be a good wife and bring my family honor. If I misbehaved, my father, younger brother, and eventually my husband would be fully entitled to use physical force. (Not all middle-eastern families are like mine of course). I ran away at 16, with my American boyfriend (now husband of 25 years), finished high school, went to college, and am an IT Executive. I wish these girls knew what they are capable of. Leaving home was the best thing I could have ever done for myself, my daughter, and the future girls in our family.
So glad you were able to leave safely! I hope your life is wonderful now!!!
Thank you for opening up and sharing your story
This is so sad to read. Glad you were able to break the toxic cycle.
I am very proud of you, even though I only know you through this text. You did so well and sacrificed so much. Someone in Germany wants you to feel hugged ❤
So glad you were able to get out.
So they throw fireworks at cars, they leave a mess behind and they still don't know why people might think of them as a nuisance?!!!!
Trust me they know. Just losers.
There not!
Not all of them are like that tho it’s just a few that ruin it to everyone
@@Hoonqueen agree. Sucks for the one's that are just trying to live simply, peacefully, and neat and tidy! Love and light to you and all those that are just trying to get by and have their own human experience for a bit.
And they steal
Helen is a sweetheart she genuinely seems caring kind and seems like a girl with a kind heart hope all worked out for her.
Shooting off fireworks at passing vehicles, trying to shoplift at local businesses and leaving all their garbage & junk for someone else to clean up, gee I wonder why the community doesn’t want them.
The rampant child abuse and neglect in this is horrifying.
Absolutely
Not to mention they didn't have seat belts on in the car 😳
Wtf it's not child abuse the reason why ppl don't wear there seat belts (sometimes) is because of the police evicting us even. If we're in a site that's leagel
Fake nails on a toddler 😢 makes me soo mad
Omg the baby drinking redbull.. those are so bad for your heart
I wish the best for Helen. David seems really aggressive and honestly presents himself as a violent and horrid boy-man. I hope Helen realises her worth and moves on with her life, she has soo much potential.
They are still married. They have 5 babies and are very happy.
@@mrsl8596 where did you see this?
Yes the lad seems very immature. As the lass gets older he will be more of a problem to her as he will remain a child, mentally.
they had one child and divorced
I wish they would show us what happened to them.
I can’t believe the nail tech agreed to do that baby’s nails 😭painting them fine but extensions??? Absolutely not, I am a beautician and this is sooooo crazy to me
I agree. That was so too much for me.
They have baby safe nail polish--Piggie Paint
The girls are sexualised so young,It's wrong
It’s hardly child abuse calm down
@@MrsMAS like i said painint is fine but extensions are too harsh
They obviously don't realize that the public parks are paid for by local taxes and not 'free' for people to go camping on.
“How long have you been waiting for this day? Couple months”😂😂😭🙏
I feel so sad for Helen :( she seemed like such a sweet gentle soul and didn't look very happy when she fell pregnant and her husband seems horrible. Poor girl, I hope she's living a happier life now.
U do not fall pregnant u get
I agree. There are some huge red flags. The whole “ she doesn’t really have a choice when she talks about nit wanting a ton of kids”. Then he tells her to shut up over and over and raises his hand to her. She even backs away showing that she does not 100% trust him. ! This girl is going to marry this dill hole. And he’s going to emotionally,verbally, and quite possibly physically abuse her. And then under the guise of “gypsy’s don’t divorce, they work it out” and having no Skills and no money, she’s trapped to remain in servitude to an abusive husband. Great culture,...not! There is no part of this culture that should be envied.
They shouldnt have had sex
The way they are still treated is so bad, been kicked out of everywhere. They should be places for them to stay, with rules of course and cleanliness of the places been enforced. Traveller's and gypsies are nice people and like every other human being have qualities and faults. I wish people would give them a chance, I think more exchange have to happen between each sides.
“Dill hole”
That’s a new one.
👀 🥒
Right, and if I judged your whole culture based on you, what would I find? 😂
She's so sweet and seems like such a genuinely nice girl. She deserves sooo much better
That wee boy that was talking about wanting to stick in at school and be a lawyer broke my heart 💙 I was shocked seeing the small girl drinking a can of Red bull 😱
You don't actually believe this bullshit by the time he's 16 he's probably conned robbed more pensioners than you have brain cells🤦
The red bull got me you see all the teenage girls always drinking red bull and I saw the little girl and was like you’ve got to be kidding me for real!?
It was probs empty or filled with water
That’s what I was saying also!! Those are terrible for your heart they cause arrhythmias I do not drink them at all and I would never allow my children to drink them.
That wee boy you speak of stopped mid speech to beat a little girl.
The fireworks stunt was awful!! No freaking wonder no one wants them squatting in public places. Buy some land and set up your campers or rent a spot a mobile home park….they’re not going to because that would mean paying for themselves. This is craziness!
They are also trash the areas and leave it a right dump.
Why don’t you buy land! Or is the point to steal public land for a living. And but toilets - like the ones people use on a river trips. Everyone clearly has money. All love ❤
*buy
Go to a hotel! Geez…
The reason why that dude has been able to get surgery is because he doesn’t pay taxes. That’s also why the councils and communities don’t like them. People pay taxes, municipality taxes etc. To keep streets and public parks maintained. These bums just move around, make a mes, neglect their children and break the law.
Their ‘way of live’ is designed to oppress women and not to have pay their way. Disgusting.
Also they can get away with literally murder. They all have the same name and some of them aren’t even registered as they’re not born in a hospital. It’s quite scary to think! They’re basically squatters in their own country…
Call the wedding off!!!
I would love for TLC to updates on all the women in these episodes and provide them support to leave if they want to. I hope she is able to get away from David. The comment about her not having a choice about how many kids they have was disgusting.
they work@catherinebranson3257
@catherinebranson3257 Not paying taxes and stealing, not paying rent or mortgage, etc. Watch the video - they even state that they have *more* money than the average person because of all these things. And they *still* steal. Absolutely horrendous.
Why does everyone take it the wrong way?!
@@surfingnorris7027because it's a bad thing??? i thought we all knew this.
@@WildVeewith your hateful disgusting post you just told me who YOU are. Racist people tend to generalize different cultures and talk down on others. Bless your non-existing heart.
That little boy was so passionate about wanting to go to school every day and becoming a solicitor when he grows up ❤
I just felt sad for him. He sounded so smart and passionate for his age.. and sadly he will probably end up miserable moving from place to place doing odd jobs. I hope not.
Having the desire to better oneself is already so important. It's been 10 years. I hope he's happy.
Yeah, yeah, but he also paused midway through his speech to go beat up a little girl
Helen is one of the sweetest, prettiest traveller brides I've seen and I hope that her new family brings her a lifetime of happiness. It would be lovely to get an update on her story. ❤
I agree. She radiates beauty and speaks so softly and calmly. I too wish her the best for her future with her husband ❤️
With the boyfriend so quick to raise his hand to her RED FLAG 🚩 run away 😢
This is from 2013, they divorced not long after they got married. They'd only known each other for less than a month before getting engaged.
How long is not long after? They have twins together so they were at least together for that and she didn’t seem to have any intention on leaving him.
@@amandab8433 Where did you find this information?
I've watched a few of these and it sounds like they hold no accountability for their negative actions. They seem to think everything is about discrimination right up until they describe their reputation for being rowdy and messy and just out of order. Very very fascinating.
It seems that many traveller family groups DO do harm, in the parks, and DO make noise in the hours that the sourrounding houses are putting the young to sleep, or the adults turning in for the night, AND many DO leave a mess, when they leave. Some residents complain about break-ins, having to lick doors,girls parading around in revealing clothes...That older girl seems less honest, that she says they do no harm.
Their views on why women don’t get pregnant right away, is the most disgusting thing about this. That screams volumes. See kids, THIS is why we stay in school.
Staying in school has nothing to do with getting pregnant in the 60s girls were getting pregnant then and to this day they are still getting pregnant while being in school they are even younger
@@Tina-wi5ng my comment flew completely over your head.
Oh yes..because if you stay in schooling you can get a whole different sortt of brainwashed..but at least you will become a good life long minion for the corporations..a wage slave.obedient and unquestioning the status quo.
Its not as easy as it seems. The woman need empowering
Yup
The child neglect of that little toddler who was being forced to get false acrylic nails done whilst she screamed! She was picking up rubbish on the roadside and pushing a can around in a dolls pram for fun, drinking red bull, being ignored, walking amongst the fireworks on the streets in no coat when the mum had said it’s freezing and the way the mum kept saying the kids still aren’t in bed they’re going to conk out in a minute she was so tired and it was so late 😩💔 so cruel
Dolls and prams are toys like kids play mams and dads
@@Daphne12367 of course, obviously which is great, Except she wasn’t pushing a “doll” in a pram was she, she was pushing around an empty red bull can in it 😩 that was my point!
@@BananaCherryKiss ok I understand that redbull gives ppl heart attacks it's a sin if anything happens
Oml it’s not neglect
These people are trouble...,
As someone who got married at 18 myself . Her husband is an absolute immature child . I feel bad for her , he has no manners and she will be picking up after him for the rest of her life , if it lasts . This is all she knows.
Poor Girl , if she tries to leave they will all turn on her , including her own people,
The way he raised his hand to her really made me mad. He’s only going to get worse from there
Just never understood why they couldn’t all pool resources to buy a plot of land where they weren’t harassed?? Wouldn’t that be on the list first thing for these men that only want to take care of their family???
Well, according to the American version of this show, it's because they cheat people to make their money and then get run out of town.
They are trash…trash loves drama
There was another episode about the complicated history of Dale Farm in Essex which involved land that was owned but still involved eviction
Helens dad saying 3 weeks to fall pregnant was too long!!!!! 🙄 worrying lack of education.
that was Helens brother in law, her father was never shown.
Seemed to me to be him teasing her.
It was a joke; tasteless yes but a peculiar sense of humor, certainly.
He wasn't joking. This community is uneducated, they don't know you can't always get pregnant on the first night, so for him 21 tries or at least 21 possible tries is a long time and of course they blame the woman only. I wonder what happens if the man is infertile@@emakelley6807
Her brother in law is quite dim
I really cant understand why Jimmy thought that those kids shooting fireworks at cars wasn't dangerous! Like what? 🤦♂️ That could easily cause an accident, a fire, or damage to the car! Not to mention how scary that would be to the people driving!
They just don't care. They barely have empathy for their own wives, let alone ethnic strangers.
Some kids here on the states got sentenced to prison for throwing rocks at passing cars and killed someone
He raised his hand to Helen a little to quick for me… 🤦🏽♀️
I know that was such a red flag for that to be his first impulse even as a joke
This is from 2013. They divorced not long after they got married.
@@amandab8433 how do you know
That's a cultural thing unfortunately
i know man. this wasnt playful at all. it was an immediate threat, even as a joke i found it veryy serious
There are certain times I find myself thinking, "I know he is speaking English, but I have no idea what he is saying."
Helen seems a very nice individual. I hope she and her family are well and wish them all the best. God bless her.
I still can't get over the sense of entitlement they have, expecting rent free parking, a house etc. Plus Helen's husband is so immature
Very entitled people
White version of the boat people 😂😂😂
It’s there way of life leave them alone!
@@surfingnorris7027😂 "leave them alone!" They put it out there, as trashy as it is! You bet they'll get judged. These people are scummy.
Why should parking not be free?
I hope that little boy gets to be a lawyer … he certainly is smart and articulate enough and has the desire!
I love him so much!
I suppose the gypsies need a few of their own trained in law so as to stand for them when they're in bother.
I hope the temper he displayed when he paused mid speech to batter a little girl gets under control
Needs to control his temper. He stopped mid speech to batter that young girl.
I love watching these docs on travellers but my god how can they not realize why people can’t stand them. Stealing after that guy gave them a deal? Disgusting. And it’s a mom and pop dealership as well? Disgusting
I'm irish and we hate them too, they're the lowest of the low
What's 1 group not all of us
No, but he made it look bad for all of u.
@@susanengel-ix8bl ik
@@Daphne12367 I agree, I've met some lovely, kind travellers. But, the problem is, the ones who do these kinds of things give a bad name to all travellers and it's a real shame. Some people feel so entitled to do whatever they want without considering other peoples feelings :(
“Shut up, you!” he says, and winds up a backhand, causing her to shrink back and duck. A moment later he shoves her. Well this doesn’t bode well. I hope she is safe now.
I don't understand why some travellers don't consider buying and establishing sites for their community. Wouldn't it provide some stability for the children?
The father in law getting the gastric band because he feels his wife doesn’t love him breaks my heart
He was the brother-in-law but I agree. He wasn’t helping himself with drinking so much and binge-eating but there’s usually roots reasons to this. I did feel for him when he explained what his motivation is for losing it.
He actually seems mentally deficient
I wouldn’t love a fat drunk either
It’s nice the Jimmy shared his weight loss concerns. It’s not often you see a traveler man share like that.
The groom raises his hand when she talks back, trys to steal for the enjoyment of tormenting someone. What a sick individual.
It’s what he has seen his father has done to his mother! Totally bloody DISGUSTING! The guys need to GROW up from stupid fighting (boxing) - Come on you guys - to be real men you need to love and nurture your wife and children. GROW UP
The wee boy in the red jacket is a credit to his parents ❤
I don’t think he is he was beating that little girl up
Didn't stop him belting that girl
“ it’s not fair that we can’t stay in a public area for free, setting off fireworks at passing cars and leaving trash everywhere.” like, perhaps, if you didn’t do that then you would be able to stay somewhere. Buy a piece of land and live there with your family. That’s all that the government is asking. Everyone else has to do it. Why are you an exception? also to expect somewhere free to stay makes no sense. Nobody else gets that for a reason.
It’s hard for me to be on their side when they are stealing from the ones they are doing business with and shooting fireworks at peoples’ cars (this is so dangerous). The kid is right, they do deserve a place to stay so they can receive rightful education. I mean they don’t even understand how their own bodies work when it comes to reproduction. And, don’t get me started on that toddler drinking red bull. I want better for them but you can only help the ones who want to help themselves at the end of the day :(
The redbull was empty
There's no fire worked get thrown lol learn the Coulter
I didn't even catch the toddler drinking Red Bull. I drank soda as a toddler, but didn't drink an energy drink until I was 7. Even then it was because at the time it was me, my 12 year old brother, and my dad trying to raised the two of us alone while grieving. They were around and I thought it was just soda in a different kinda can. Now when I look back I cringe a bit about how I would drink around 2 energy drinks as a kid because no one was there to stop me and I'd fight my brother about it if he said no, but I know that at least in my family's case my dad was trying his best. He got remarried within a couple years and got his shit together. Now my little sister (half sister, but I don't concern myself with halfs, she's just my sister) isn't allowed to drink any soda. She's 13 and still hasn't had a drop of soda past 7up or ginger ale when trying to settle her stomach. Meanwhile I'm sitting here typing this with a sugar free Mount Dew and a cup of cold brew next to me.
If they pay ground rent then they can stay and help their kids get to school on time. Why should the tax payers have to clean up after them and give them public spaces they pay for…for them to clutter up with their antics. You can tell the kids have had enough. This lifestyle is outdated.
@@jlarkman3477 who the fuck are you to tell somebody to give up their heritage of their lifestyle.
I can see a sadness in Helen’s eyes. She’s been robbed.
“When you marry him, he could turn into the anti-christ” 😂🤣
That applies everywhere. Psychopaths are good at deception.
Omg my heart leapt in my throat when he tried to hit her. I flinched like he was going to hit me. I could never sleep next to a man that did that. I’d be gone by morning. Never look back. A man should be a woman’s safe protector. At least my husband is.
Miserable life. NO home sweet home….makes me thankful for my little home. It’s warm in the winter and cool in the summer💗
She is so gorgeous. Her bright eyes, so expressive. I hope she gets all of the world.
Wow he raised his hand to her a bit to fast !!! I hope he never hits her!!! She’s so lovely!
This is from 2013. They divorced not long after they got married.
Total red flag 🚩
She is lovely. ❤
@@amandab8433is it on a video?
@@surfingnorris7027 No it was in one of the online gossip type pages from the UK.
I just find it so ironic that their caravans are spotless and the women clean every day, yet it’s a mess outside, even when they’re settled.
No respect for the land. Wonder why us tax paying country people don't want them around
Seeing that small child with a red bull drink is why he is so hyper. And I loved the other boy who was talking about what he wanted when he grew up. He was breathtaking that he didn't want to live the traveler lifestyle.
Wow!! That little boy with the glasses? So cute, but more than that, Soo bright, and all he wants is an education.
David is physically pushing Helen around and ordering her about before the wedding, I can't imagine he won't get violent after he is married. I hope better for her, but guessing in time he will become outright abusive. He is already a thief, and he's only 18. Disgusting. Helen is foolish to marry this loser. She is so nice and deserves a lot better.
Whenever I feel down I watch these gypsy vidoes and feel better about my life choices😊
😂😂😂
These aren't Gypsies. They're not Roma. They're Irish
I’m not a prejudiced person by nature but in my whole life EVERY TIME travellers rock up nearby there are break-ins, thefts, flytipping and generally obnoxious behaviour - even from little kids. Every single time. Sometimes prejudices exist for a reason…
I've lived next door to a camp my whole life and haven't had a issue yeah I've seen fights a lot of fights lol but that's from within their own community, I actually get my hair done in one of the girls caravans she's the best at big bouncy blowouts 🤷 I'm not a traveller they have a camp right at the opening of a estate I'm the first house most of them have a house here now tho the council built bungalows for them
Totally understanding you.
In Costa Rica 🇨🇷 we don't need gypsies since we have more than enough with nicaraguans.
They litter, rob, steal, break-in, Rword, and don't even care to raise their kids, some even sell them.
well they don't work...so they're either actually stealing or living off of the government which is still, in my eyes, stealing. I don't see a single disability or justifiable reason that they can't work, other than they wanna travel around and live freely. yeah, well so do I. that's not the way it works, unfortunately. I just can't stand people who know the rules and still try to skirt around them. literally in the beginning, they said they just got evicted from their last place and council already clocked them at the new one, and they know they're gonna get evicted again, but they're still going at it. clearly they don't want you doing this and there's just zero regard.
Gives you food for thought about other prejudices... the most bigoted thing a person can do when someone says 'I don't like X people' is dismiss them and not ask WHY! Pattern recognition is the basis of all intelligence!
Snap i was just about to comment saying the same. The rubbish and waste they leave behind is disgusting as well
The fireworks are a demonstration of defiance, disrespect and highly dangerous… and they wonder why communities don’t want them around… I’m sure they’re not all this wreckless and entitled, but one rotten apple spoils the bunch!
@7:31 yeah…absolutely not.
AGREED Run fast 😒
The problem with travellers is, when they leave a site, I'm told that the council have to clean up the mess left behind, plus do the travellers pay ANY council tax or road tax because they should.
That seems to be a common complaint, about the mess they leave behind. Yet they SAY that they "clean up" after themselves. So, which is it?
@@dede4004nope they usually don’t
Helen's dress is the prettiest dress I have seen on any of these shows. It's not extremely big like a lot of them and she should have no problems walking down the isle. I wish her and her family luck.
him almost hitting her shows she will probably be abused
I felt so uncomfortable watching them interact....
Yep
He pushed her pretty hard after that. Huge red flag.
This men raised his hand against her and pushed her. Before the Wedding. I know where this is going through
Are there no rv parks throughout the country? In the US, you can travel park to park where they have hook-ups for water/sewage. Some parks have bath houses and laundromats on site as well. To me, it would be worth the minimal cost to not have to move every other day.
Yeah there definitely is, but they charge a fee apon entering and some you have to pre book.
You forget they're thieving scum who refuse to fork out for basic necessities everyone else has to pay for.
They'd rather play victim while splashing out on luxuries
Yeah they just don't want to pay rent like the rest of the world has to. Its all about a free ride so they can waste money on extravagant child weddings
"We just want somewhere safe for our children"......continues to allow the very young children to not wear seatbelts!!
Right? That pissed me off. If they got in even a minor accident that baby would be out the windshield.
and her husband thinks it's ok for kids to throw fireworks at passing cars.
And drink Red Bull 😂😂😂
It's absolutely disgusting what they do for vanity over rather care for their own children's needs.. little girl does not want her nails done
If I behaved like them, I would be in jail. Trespass is not a lifestyle
I get the other stuff they do is wrong... stealing, abuse, littering, the fireworks, etc...
But how is it wrong for them to be on public property? If it was private property I'd understand... but it's literally public property. 🤷🏼♀️
Helen is 19 but her life on the road is so stressful she looks so much older. Sad choices these people make.
I mean, their problems are their own fault. Do they not get it? "We want more public land where we can crash, rent free, tax free, paid for by people who live in houses, but complain about people who live in houses for not liking us being around..."
He raised his hand to her then caught stealing after 7 weeks good luck Helen
Little kids aren't in car seats. People don't dislike them for no reasons. Parks are for everyone to enjoy. That can't happen if you're living there. You can see a trail left behind them when they leave a site.
Exactly
100%
They're delusional
Shooting fireworks at cars? Hm can't imagine why people don't want them around. Who just expects people to let the live rent free while they trash the place?
12 cans of red bull a day, McDonalds for breakfast and dinner, chocolates for lunch. The baby has a 2 liter of soda pop just walking around, in another clip she’s sipping a red bull and pushing in her little dolly carriage like it’s her baby, and getting full on acrylic tips at the nail salon. Are these people that uneducated or that out of touch with reality ? You can’t give a toddler red bull. all the other stuff is bad, but the red bull for a toddler? I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid.
Wow! I missed that part. I gotta watch that again. These people are so willfully ignorant. They keep and women pregnant and uneducated to control them and keep them in an abusive marriage. Giving Redbull to a toddler, that's a whole other level of stupid.
It's very interesting to me that they are convinced that it's their right to camp for free.
Well, he showed what things will be later. I am profoundly sorry for her.
It doesn’t seem like they’re doing any harm but imagine if they moved into an empty spot opposite your house how would you feel? It happened to me once about 10 years ago and trust me it was nothing but bad. When they finally left the place looked like trash, they didn’t clean up after them selves one little bit. The local counsel had to come in and clean it up and of course they don’t pay any local taxes
It is not only the gypsies that leave a mess look at Venice Beach in California look at skid row im California
@@Tina-wi5ng Homelessness isn’t a culture nobody raises their child to become homeless It’s a completely different problem. Also Gypsies aren’t poor a lot of them have lots of money probably cause they don’t pay any rent or tax
I was wondering about that - how they treat the places they stay. Part of me would like to see their culture preserved, perhaps some compromises could be made - like they can only stay a certain amount of time and must adhere to the law but I’m not sure it’s possible.
@@blondesense1708 I don't know if this is the case in the UK, but here in the US, they could go to a trailer park or campsite and rent a lot. Not only that, they could park at a truck stop, a mall parking lot, etc. It wouldn't be so bad if it was a single trailer, but parking 5 or 6 trailers and cars on the grass in a public park is just ridiculous.
@@Jersey.D3vil201 yeah, but in trailer and rv parks you have to pay a damage deposit, rent and utilities fees.
For those who ask why aren't they given a spot to stay, here's a few bits of information that they've said in other videos that probably sum it up.
*They are called travelers because their culture tells them to be nomads, even if they hay a spot where they could park, they would move again in a few months.
*It's been noted that they do not want to pay taxes, so even if they had land they could stay in, they wouldn't want to pay housing or city taxes.
*Most children don't finish their education, since it is required by law that children attend to school, it is easier to get the kids pulled out of school if they don't have an address to report and schools usually assume they moved again.
*Because of their way of life and their reputation for trashing places, people don't want them as neighbors since their presence alone decreases the value of their property.
*They usually own businesses and moving allows them to get clients before people find out they are gypsies/travelers.
Of course these are observations made by the people on the videos and while there are unproblematic members of the community out there, this show is about those who for the stereotypes.
Yeah I heard Jimmy say the council won't give them a house. So I think they don't want to pay rent and stuff
Because they travel, I'm quite sure that other "travelers" would move into it, move on, and it would just become repetitive.
Travellers have been here since the Great Fire of London , they were instrumental in rebuilding. When King William of Orange sent from Holland to be the British King - he sent protestants to invade Eire, many fled Eire (Catholics) to the UK , Meanwhile Roma came to the UK in the 1500s , welcomed and then like travellers persecuted. They "travelled to stop themselves being killed by the establishment. Even catching a rabbit could see them hung or deported to Australia. There is always a back story.
The men are all disgusting lazy and entitled. The women are abused physically, and emotionally. The children are wild, abusive toward each other, and have very unhealthy views on life. Not to mention very unhealthy diets. My heart breaks for the women, and children. The whole traveler lifestyle is horrific. Srsly, who wants to live in that chaos. I don’t get it. 😢
Yea I think if they were willing to pay taxes/rent it would be ok because even here in the states there are R/V parks, you pay a small fee and can stay there as long as you want. But they want to live there for free and that’s just not how things work now.
Where do they get the money for these costly weddings? They don't stay anywhere long enough to work. And weight-loss surgery?! How do they pay for that?
This trespasser's lack of sympathy for previous bad experience(s) with travelers, & dismissiveness of the council employee b/c "he just mows the grass" is upsetting.
Helen’s dress is one of the most gorgeous ones I have ever seen!! God bless you both in your marriage and much love and happiness always! ❤
This is from 2013. They divorced not long after they got married. They'd only known each other for less than a month before getting engaged.
@@amandab8433how do you know this? I thought they were having twins together?
Thank you Amanda, LOVE and blessings 🙏💖
The baby getting those nails actually is upsetting and being forced too! Legit annoys me bad when babies get fake nails or a fake tan etc
Was just going to write this, it was so upsetting seeing her so upset and not wanting them done either. So irresponsible and disgusting. Putting them on is one thing but you have to soak the nails off in chemicals etc it surely can't be good for their little nails and skin like who does that to their babies.
Wow him pushing her like that is not cool
That's what a thought and the few seconds prior he raised to backhand her. ☜ (↼_↼)
She acts like it's a joke but she flinched.... it may be a joke but I have a bad feeling there's more to it 😬
The pushing doesn’t bother me.. me n my bf of 10 years push each other when we are playing but the raising his hand to her and her flinching like that bothered me
@@sunrizetosunset same! Playful pushing happens between friends and partners so that part wasn't really bad to me... just the flinching is bothersome
They divorced soon after
Ugh i cant when she said they can't even shower or they have to go for a swim and don't even have plumbing like a bathroom that's just nasty i can't
That is RIDICULOUS to put acrylic nails on a 4 year old . Shame on that woman.
The toddler drinking RedBull and carrying the can in the stroller, I can't... 😂 36:14
I can't imagine living like this! Helen!! You are sooooo beautiful and smart----WHY are you marrying this guy you barely know?!? You deserve so much better!! Also---those nails on that baby!!!! Are you SERIOUS mom????
They divorced pretty quickly. This episode is from 2013.
@@amandab8433 I hoped she’d get away from him, he had a bad vibe.
@@amandab8433 Another comment above says that they are still married and have more kids, including another set of twins.
@@cruel_brittania I sure hope that’s wrong
I once did speak to a Dutch traveller who had studied economics in the university. He was kicked out of the camp for betraying his social status. He was not supposed to study, and his parents were also expelled. I do not know how that would work out nowadays, but back in the 70s it was next to impossible for a Dutch traveller doing something else but being a roofer or executing such a profession, mostly while receiving money from the state, working illegally and not paying taxes, but expecting being respected.
I worked at a restaurant in college and one day a large group of about 30 of them came in. They complained from the time they arrived. Made a mess out of the dinning room and we had to call the cops on them because they refused to pay the bill, started breaking things and Eventually the manger agreed to comp half the bill and they paid and left.
The money that was spent on this wedding and dozens of others they could have bought a plot of land.
I didn't like them forcing that little girl to have false nails. I mean if she wanted them and was enjoying the process fair enough it's their choice I suppose, wouldn't do it myself but ok. Seeing her holding her hand in place while she screamed was just really distressing 💜
Can you get my big fat gypsy christening episode
Or how about painting newborns nails ?
@@Dollgrl1 ooh wouldn't that be lovely 🙄
I also hated that the kids were not belted in the car either
@@annied1827Same!
shes' 19 but that spray tan makes her look 40 years old
It's sun beds that's why
7 weeks knowing him,good grief.Wake up parents.I find all of this sad.
Poor Helen, looks much older than 19. Like she has been through a lot in her 19 young years. Poor thing.
Hi Jimmy plz strap little ones in , even if your not going far you never know what can had happen🙂