Charles Barkley Does NOT Like Analytics (or Daryl Morey!)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Charles Barkley does not like analytics, and he is not afraid to let everybody know just how much he hates them. Charles Barkley clearly does not respect Daryl "Moronic", aka Daryl Morey, who has long been a big part of the analytics push in the NBA. While I think Charles Barkley has some solid points about how analytics are used, I'm still trying to figure out how Barkley came up with the yoga comparison and the cook and chef analogy...
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“I wouldn’t know Daryl Morey if he walked in this room right now.” 😂😂😂 Chuck woke up and chose violence.
Ty for making all these compilations. You should do “When you can hear the production crew laughing” like with the Jussie Smollet thing lol
yes !!! this would be the funniest one 💯
Or when Chucc said Shaq look like Shrek
Or everytime Shaq says WHATCHA SAY CHUCK?! or SAY IT AGAIN CHUCK?!
Big facts
“Jussie, you wasted all that time and money. You know what you should have did? Should have gone to Liam Neeson’s neighborhood. He would have solved all your problems.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"And they never got the girls in High School" 🤣🤣🤣
Yogas nothin but stretchin 😭😭😭😭
He's not wrong.
And Yoga instructors are payed a lot more than "stretching" instructors, kinda proves his point
😂😂😂
"They all got one thing in common. They a bunch of guys who ain't never play the game and they never got the girls in high school." 😂😂😂
That Yoga comparison is 100% true, Chuck sees through the bullshit
It’s really not true at all lmfao y’all will just agree with anything Chuck says
Not true at all
@@swimfan752 Analytics don’t really provide much but promote change or rather explain and show the change that’s currently happening. At the end of the day it’s still stats. I’m pretty sure you could recognize when the league is attempting more threes on the season from season to season. It’s all pretty noticeable. Some categories that are covered are harder to notice tho so it’s not completely bad or useless. Long story short.. numbers only tell you so much at the end of the day so analytics aren’t the entire truth. Numbers don’t lie but they also don’t tell the full story either.
@@swimfan752 Yoga is just specific stretches how is he wrong lmao. Someone’s mad
@@swimfan752 because its true, if u have half a brain this is obvious lol
He is right. If it is all about statistics you could have a computer coach a team.
There not saying analytics can cure cancer. its there for a reason.
Nobody say "it is all about statistics"... I mean you need actual play to play the game as a start. However, analytics seems to be very useful in predicting, for instance, what players to sign to maximize your team's performance or what plays should be executed more.
@@bohanxu6125 until someone signs Russell westbrook and realizes analytics can't determine decision making or consistency. Statistics helps but more often than not they don't show shit that's useful for winning championships. But hey shout out daryl Morey for showing why analytics don't do shit. #jamesharden #bensimmons
@@kingofgrooveness
"until someone signs Russell westbrook and realizes analytics can't determine decision making or consistency."
I'm pretty sure russell westbrook has horrible "analytics". I mean it's not hard to see he has horrible efficiency....
Also you can see a lot of decision making skill or consistency through analytics... For consistency, you can look at the variance of point per game or variance of efficiency. For decision making, you can look at assist to turnover ratio, or other stuff.... Or you can create a machine learning algorithm that takes in as much game information you want.
It's true that box score tells you very limited things.... However, if you include all the information of a game, possession by possession, then those data can tell you a lot.
Not really. The two biggest droughts in baseball history were broken using analytics. The Cubs in 2016 and the Redsox in 2004.
The harder or louder Shaq laughs the more Charles gets reckless😂
"Listen, people always think that I hate analytics..and they think that cause it's true, I hate analytics."
Never change, Charles
Morey does look like someone who never got girls in the high school 😂
@Versatile Wolf NWO 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Ole boy rich af now so that shouldn't be a problem now
Chuck: “Analytics…”
Ernie: “No don’t go down this road again, dude, please, please…” 🙏
Chuck: “Ernie, as I’ve told you, analytics are like… when you’re black they call you a cook, when you’re white they call you a chef. They just call it analytics so they can charge you more for it. They’re just stats. I mean, everybody pays attention to stats.”
😂😂😂 One of my favorite Inside the NBA moments of all time.
😆😭😂😂 chuck do be spitting most of the time
"When you're black they call you a cook, when you're white they call you a chef" lmao
Charles is right about Analytics. As a kid I used to wonder why Kobe didn't shoot more 3 pointers but as an adult I realize they guard the 3 point line more than the mid range spots.
A contested 3 is worth more points per posession than a WIDE open middie
@@jonathancarter6094 I don't think that's true at all lol
@@jonathancarter6094makes zero sense.
@@jonathancarter6094you probably never played the game or got the girls in high school
We need more real people like Charles Barkley
No we don't lol
Yes we do. We need honest, authentic and laid back people. Not uptight, fake liars
unfortunately, he's the last man standing, we are in the BS world of PC now
No we don't
He's not honest or authentic
@@thereasonwhy5188 troll
Yoga ain’t nothing but stretching 😂😂😂😂😂
Most people who "watch" NBA talk about analytics. They never watch the game, and it's sad. When I talk to these people I would say "Giannis played great tonight", then they would say, "well, he was 3 out of 7 beyond the arc"... bruh, the dude had 30 points and murdering people down low when he was bulldozing his way coast to coast. Whatcha mean he can't shoot 3s???
@Mason Hamilton 3 out of 7 is average I guess, analytics want 5 out of 7
@@exxie1 That's not true....
@@noivern1380 honestly, I don't even care if Giannis shoots threes. If he can drop 30 points a game in high percentage, which is what he is capable of and great at, I'm all for it. But analytics will say, nope, three good, best player shoot three, no three mean no good player 🗿
@@noivern1380 you must know, the well-known analytics guys are the ones on ESPN or some other networks. I don't watch them because it drives me crazy. There's even one time I saw a clip of SAS laughing at Chuck for saying Giannis would win a chip last year. That's the analytic guy right there. I don't mind the stats, it's the analytics guys I don't like. They're just stats and everybody can read stats. And people actually believe people like Skip Bayless know his shit
He's not lying. That's why my stupid eagles go for on 4th every time like it's damn Madden. You know who else hates analytics? Bill Belichick.
Didn't they beat him lol
Day balls productions if you see this I want to say that these are so funny and I love to be able to see them in a compilation and keep up the great work.
Appreciate the support 🙏
" its just stats , they just call it a different name, like yoga, its just stretching " >>> Charlie Barkley
Yoga ain't nothing but stretching 🤣🤣
Damn chuck is right.
Not really. Warriors changed the game and built a dynasty off analytics
Analytics have ruined sports. Baseball the most.
Including basketball
I can only imagine how he'd feel about San Antonio based analytics experts who date women from Tuscaloosa ...
Did the couple met at a steam room?
😂😂😂
@@russell2890 - Towels on or towels off??? 🤔🤷🏻♂️😂
@@johnbrowntheprophet towels were on - Chuck
@@russell2890 - 😂 Thanks, Chuck. That gives me great relief knowing that information. 👍🏻😂
Toad Smith!😂😂😂
1:44 Yoooooo I've noticed this
Chuck spitting facts
Here's the thing about Analytics - Reminds me of a quote I've had memorized "No plan survives contact with the enemy." Now what do you reckon that means, eh? Analytics or stats are quantitative of the game but they are not qualitative of the game. Math says the game should be played one way but what do your eyes tell you?
That a tough 4th and 1 and I gain 1 yard will lower my average, but could be critical in terms of wins and losses.
Analytics are critical in understanding the game within the game.. Charles don't understand it so he dismisses it
@@mitchelll3879 Analytics is a critical failure at understanding the Game of Basketball. Talent and the way the game is played determines what is best for the player, best for the team. Numbers can give you a projection of what should work, but that's not what happens during a game and from the games I've seen your analytics can take a hike. Charles understands this all too well because he's played at the highest level of the sport.
You can combine both quantitative and qualitative data. That’s multimethod analysis.
@@petitnicollas lol look at this wise guy! That's a brilliant statement without a doubt. Very clever.
It's 2 sides of the same coin. You can't strategize or be successful JUST with analytics and you want to be careful basing decisions just off of the eye-test and conventional basketball wisdom. Analytics are good to find specific areas to take advantage of. To Chuck's point, not every team can be successful just shooting 3's because if all 30 teams follow the same strategy there is no comparative advantage to shooting 3's, it just comes down to talent. The next stage in analytics is going to be who can find comparative advantage in a league dominated by 3's. If teams get worse at defending the paint because they're so used to defending the perimeter, there are going to be more opportunities for layups and dunks. Everything is subject to league rule changes and individual player talent; analytics when used properly can just help you find areas to exploit.
Understanding the nuances of game theory is is key to any successful organization. See game theory mechanics and nash equilibrium for pitchers vs batters in baseball.
Exactly. Its not only about the data, Its about how to interpret and use it in the game to plan strategies.
Which doesn’t do much really, it just tells you some things about a team in the previous game.
In all honestly chuck is completely right. Stats will never tell the whole story of what makes a team great
“They just call it analytics so they can charge you more for them…they just stats”
Speaking straight facts here!
Analytics is for people that ain’t never played the game at a high level and trying to include them in it 🤣
Nah
Keep them coming. These videos brighten up my day after a long shift thank you so much
I love charles barkley
He sounds like Rick James. " No I wasn't there, yeah I was there"
Chuck has a point about yoga though. If you paying for that, you getting scammed
Lmao the Yoga comment 😂😂😂
well, he's right that analytics don't *really* work.. if they did, then sports betting would be low risk/high reward. but it's not; it's high risk/high reward.
Charles Barkley is the best.
Got to stand up for yoga, it's a specific type of stretching that incorporates strength. You could watch someone doing yoga and if you copied them, you'd just be stretching, but if they explained how to do it, you'd feel the difference. When you add in all the spiritual crap it's more of a racket, but the basic moves work. I'd go as far as saying that yoga is the correct way to stretch, and everyone who is just stretching is doing it wrong.
From a players perspective Charles makes all the sense in the world, but from front office perspective analytics are guide for making player decisions.
It’s just a minuscule part of the whole equation. It works for baseball but in any dynamic sport, it tends to fail
LMAO that first part 😂😂😂😂
I love how gsw still has that entire core right there💙💛 3:42
He talk about Analytics like it’s a real person 🤣🤣🤣
It is. Mike Trout
@@misterceo2168 what about Mike Trout?
@@skeeter1858 he’s an analytics merchant. Ain’t won shit ain’t gonna win shit. Struck out in the wbc to lose the finals but y’all punks can spew out all his analytics lol
"I used to hate analytics... I still do but I used to too"
"all these guys have one thing on common"...
Proceeds to list about 3 things
@Dat Balla Productions, if you haven’t thought of it yet you should do a compilation of Chuck roasting fans.
Lmao chuck the illest
Charles "Fat Tony" Barkley
Waiting for posts everyday🤣
Analytics are cool but they are not the end all be all that people tend to see it as
Sir Charles always tells the truth …. His truth lol
Chuckkkkster don’t hold back tells it like it is and never apologizes that’s why Americas loves him great videos Lolol
2018 wcf rockets lose by 9. They went 7-44 from 3 . They missed 37 bad shots and lost by 9 let's think 5 layups and there in the finals. Darryl moronic 🤣
I don’t like analytics either lol
Agree, that's why Daryl Morey still fail to win championship despite joining great team.
Haha I love Chuck but this isn't even just boomer talk, it's that Auburn education talk. Data analysis has become a staple in every major sport around the world.
Lol nah it’s def boomer talk.
Dudes can shook you up just by standin in the court, analytics is for suckas
"Player is shooting 7/10 threes" is stats
"hE a GuuD sH00taR" is analytics
@@rasakhenaton5176 lol how does Prime Charles being able to score have anything to do with it? Go actually look up what analytics is.
Analytics are fine, but talent and man management often matter much more. Barkley too funny tho
"Listen, people think I hate analytics, and they only do because it's true..... I hate analytics."
"See, I never did things just to do them. I mean what am I going to do, just suddenly jump up and grind my feet into someone's couch? Come on, I got a little more sense than that..... yeah I remember grinding my feet into Eddie Murphy's couch."
Krispy Kremes is a helluva donut.
Long live charles barkley
Draymond will be a good fit with TNT
What open court episode was that
Modified Pythagorean Theorem doesn't work in sports. Just cause you multiply 13.91 😅😅😅😅😅
Chucky baby right on 👍👍
Payer Impact estimate.... wtf?! who made that bs?!
THANKS CHUCK
Even Shaq was like "damn" he cooked Morely
Thank you for doing the lord’s work.
He is not wrong. People who has nothing to do with the game and are doing it more scientific and earn the big money. Yes, it can help efficience but people has enough of stats, we need to see passion and joy. Winning is nothing. Suns were excellent to watch team with Nash and i dont give a d*@n about them not having a ring. I just loved the way they were playing and hustling.
Chuckster is 10000000000% true
Charles Barkleys forte has never been thinking.
Facts I hate when casuals show advance stats and can’t back them up with any real video evidence
Not even casual fans talk about advanced stats. The only people who do are ESPN and Amazon who think anyone gives a flying fuck about their damn numbers.
Watching Daryl And Chuck argue is like watching 2 blind men trying to find a candle.
Dr. Shaq used "vitriol" as a adjective not a noun like he should have. :/
The formula at 5:01 is GMPTS supposed to be points per game? If it is, Barkley is right. The formula is just comparing a single game to the season’s stats. You don’t need a formula to do that.
I love this guy
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love Chuck but he is sometimes unconsciously giving analytical statements like the importance of rebounds in winning games.
Uhh is this serious?
This is exactly what he means when he says they’re just stats. Rebounding is a basic fundamental of basketball. You don’t need formulas to calculate why a team lost if they didn’t rebound the ball well 🤦♂️
Analytics equals regular season success
“You’re not a great 3 point shooter. Why are you shooting 3s?”
Because 33% from three is equivalent to 50% from two. This isn’t advanced analytics - just basic math. Almost all guards are shooting under 50% from two, so it makes more sense for them to be a “bad” 34% shooter from behind the arc.
Same thing happened in baseball. Hitting under .300 was just automatically considered “bad”. It was an arbitrary line in the sand that had nothing to do with the actual outcome of the game. Turns out that .240 hitter with 37 homers is doing way more to help your team win than the .300 hitter with only 10 homers.
Same thing when players try to slam dunk yet they miss. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very ironic that Barkley is telling ppl to not shoot 3's and he is THE worst 3 shooter of All Time! hahahaha
“So you think Kobe Bryant and Shaq together is not analytical?”
Those words do not make any sense whatsoever. NBA guys who hate analytics are just guys who didn’t pay attention in school
Again like chuck said it’s people like you who never had any talent at the game cling to analytics.
No it's about paying attention on the court. Rebounding, passing, defending, and less turnovers impact winning and losing....... that simple.
Basketball is a simple game. Analytics in basketball is dumb
Chucks right I player prop bet I have league pass watch every game and the NBA is pathetic shooting 3s with no one under the rim with 22 seconds left on the shot clock by a 7'0" is a awful shot
Analytic don’t work for basketball.
Actually, they do. That’s why so many teams have analytics departments. Why do you think so few mid-range shots are being taken nowadays? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ Analytically speaking, they’re not productive shots.
I think we haven’t seen the best basketball player. I know it is crazy but I feel like the basketball cultural is holding back basketball. It is like basketball players care more for clout and respect from Twitter. Probably in the future, they will get a player that only concentrates to be perfection without worrying about the fake ness of social media.
Bro what? There were dominant players before Twitter and there are dominant players now. Not everyone in the league is the same and just in it for clout, some of them don’t need the clout lol
Analytics are for people who do not watch tape
We know they can't shoot 3s because of the data.
Daryl Morey is a genius. Chuck's wrong here
Yeah a genius who lost his job. Rockets have never made the finals.
If you don't like analytics, you probably don't understand math.
Charles Barkley didn’t win a championship, and every team Daryl Morey has been apart of hasn’t won either.
Food for thought.
He ain’t wrong ab Morey tho, one of the most overrated GMs in the league
Chris Broussard don't like analytics neither.
It’s because he’s either not smart enough to understand analytics, AND/OR he just doesn’t want to put forth the effort to understand the data. Usually, it’s just intellectual laziness.
Jesus loves you He died on the cross for our sins He's the only way to Heaven
Oof, dunking on Morey when they can't dunk on their Chinese Overlords.
Smart guys that can't play 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the reason why chuck gets fooled with money.
If only he has half more brain, no one could steal money from him. Still funny dude though😂
Morey worse GM in sports
This ain’t baseball where creativity is non-existent. Analytics don’t work in basketball.
Fuck no
Actually, they do. That’s why so many teams have analytics departments. Why do you think so few mid-range shots are being taken nowadays? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ Analytically speaking, they’re not productive shots.
@@johnbrowntheprophet and too many players are shooting below 30% from 3, that's def not effective but analytics says it's fine. Like chuck said, it's just a bunch of losers who never played sports trying to feel like they belong.
@@drewski103 - Not many players in the NBA shoot below 30% from three, and those who do don’t shoot many of them. Analytics work in the NBA. It’s just easier and more convenient for you to say that they don’t because you’re lazy. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@johnbrowntheprophet Houston rockets have been all in on analytics the past 10 years. They haven't even sniffed the finals even with all star players like Paul and Harden. It's LAZY to think you only need to shoot 3s and layups to win. Analytics has players on a fast break running the the 3 point line rather than taking an open layup. That's all real ball players need to see to know it's a joke. Which you are not.
Analytics are not stats
Analytics are key takeaways from the facts/stats
It answers the question, we got all this info, so what?
You'd think it was intuitive from the literal names. There's stats and then you analyze the stats. Hence analytics. But as much as I like Chuck he's a boomer.
"Player is shooting 7/10 threes" is stats
"hE a GuuD sH00taR" is analytics
@@TheDonUrbas more like :
Stats:"Player hit 7/10 3's"
Analytics:"but he hit 5/5 in this location and 2/5 in this location. He hit 3/3 when guarded by this defender but 1/3 when guarded by this defender"
Those are important things to know especially in crucial moments.
@@DamianSAAAN🤦♂️….like all that shyt wasn’t out before.
@@libatako thats just one example. Do you have any idea how present analytics is in every facet of the game now? From scouting to monitoring player health with lightweight clothing(the reason you see soccer players wearing "bras" these days). Might not seem that important to you but I can assure you teams and bookies find it very important.
Yoga is not just exercise or stretching . You westerners have taken an ancient Indian tradition and corrupted it to mean whatever you want. Yoga simply means UNION with the universal oneness(it can be done through exercising, running, stretching , breathing, praying , working your job with full devotion AND ANYTHING WHICH CAUSES CESSATION OF THOUGHTS). You don't know wtf you guys are talking about. Saying Yoga is just stretching is just like saying christianity is a cult of a dead man.
I like chuck but him talking criticizing guys shooting 3's when he is the worst 3 point shooter of all time. It’s dumb
when chuck was drafted 3 pointers were a whole new thing, he was just chucking them up cause it was a new shot too him
Chuck Might Not Can't Shoot. But Give Chuck The Ball At The 18 Foot Mark On A Post Up.
No One Is Stopping Him. Chuck Would Destroy People.
Why would his bad 3-points percentage prevent him to critize players taking 3s? Only Curry, Miller and Allen can analyse the game?
@@vianouche1 it’s hypocritical is his point. Dude is worst of all time 3 point shooter and took over 2000 3s. It’s not that deep
@@swimfan752 maybe he evolved and reflected on his game and mistakes?
Chuck is a good person and a very funny guy... but he is just wrong on analytics
Saying "analytics is just stats" is like saying "youtube recommendation system is just stats" or "self-driving car's navigation system is just stats"
yes those machine learning algorithm needs stats to work (whether it's basketball stats, or viewership stats, or data that is used to train car to recognize pedestrians)... but the algorithms that use stats to predict on-court production, or youtube recommendation, or specific act a self-driving car does... are not "just stats"
He's talking about basketball. You need great players to win. Analytics won't help you.
What do self driving cars have to do with basketball?
@@Sasso-pf1mo
because like I said
Saying "analytics is just stats" is like saying "youtube recommendation system is just stats" or "self-driving car's navigation system is just stats"
Companies who do basketball stats hire very smart people to optimize winning through data.... they are not "just looking at stats"
Self-driving car uses cameral to capture image, and that image go through a neural network (a program trained by data) to decide what action should a car do.
Basketball analytics uses cameral to capture image... together with other information, go through a neural network to decide what kind of shoot/play a team should do, and what players should a team trade.
Using data to win basketball is very similar to using data to drive a car.... it's not looking at stats...