Insta 360 Go 2, why I DON'T recommend it. (For FPV)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The new Insta360 Go 2...
This tiny new action camera has been getting a lot of rave reviews.
So I bought it hoping it maybe a good option to mount on lightweight FPV quads, buuuuuut then I tested it... :(
It is not a terrible camera, but I do get terrible results for FPV. I mounted it on three different quads, in a multitude of different ways, but I had jello issues every single time.
Handheld it is great.
Great stabilisation, pretty good image quality, lightweight and easy to use.
Just don't buy it for FPV unless you quad has a perfect tune and a amazing vibration dampened mount.
I put it side by side with my hero 8 black, in 4k and in 2,7k 50fps.
with and without reelsteady, and tested every mode available on the insta 360 go 2.
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It seems I had some comments are regarding mount method.
I did clearly explain that I tried a multitude of mounting ways, but to explain further.
Types of mounts I tried. -
Vertical in TPU mount, (screwed into plastic base plate)
Horizontal wrapped in foam sponge, rubber banded down to top of frame.
Velcro straps tight onto separate platform, which was suspended above frame on rubber isolation grommets.
Zip tied to plastic platform, that was on rubber grommets isolated from frame.
Fat rubber bands tight to top of insulated GoPro case (which itself was sat on soft foot mount)
And I also tried to hard mount it zip tied only.
I mounted it in multiple ways.
On three completely different quads.
Each time I had either some jello, or lots of jello.
The go pro H8, on each drone, on any mount, had no jello.
UPDATE - I HAD MANY PEOPLE TELLING ME I NEEDED TO MOUNT VERTICAL (I DID) AND USE NDs ETC... AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM, I DID ALL OF THE ABOVE, HERE IS A UNLISTED FOLLOW UP VIDEO THAT SHOWS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO... AND THE LEVEL OF UNWANTED ARTEFACTS EVEN WITH MY BEST 360 GO2 RESULTS-
• INSTA 360 GO 2 FOLLOW ...
Ive just uploaded a follow up vid, that focuses on general action camera use - surfing, biking etc etc - ruclips.net/video/YT7FWz6QBrA/видео.html
Update number 3.
I will upload a new vid that covers general use.
I have now used it for -
Kitesurfing (in ocean/ water sports)
Mountain biking
Motorbike
And family/general use.
It has pros and cons for all.
But certainly the jello issue isn’t a big problem for general use unless hard mounted to a shaky object. (Like bike handlebars etc)
UPDATE NUMBER 1. FOLLOW UP VID - On request for more demos, including vertical mounting and the issues that ND filters cause, and on more quads etc...
Here is a unlisted follow up vid that shows the 'BEST FPV RESULTS' I got with the GO2. (it still has issues even in those)
ruclips.net/video/h2a0PYOos2U/видео.html
hay bud just check this if you haven't got rid of the go 2 yet see if it will work for you
he does use the model before this one with the same problem and from what i see it seems to work see what you think
ruclips.net/video/GSTVzVCG4JQ/видео.html
This is a perfect mini camera that will fit in places the Gopro doesn’t. The image quality is absolutely commensurate with the size of the sensor, and its stabilization is beyond expectations. Who doesn’t need it, don’t use it, but I think it’s no weaker than the approx. four times bigger and more expensive Gopro. :)
I was looking for this exact type of review for the last 5 days, thanks !
Glad it was useful. I don’t hate it. But for my purpose a GoPro is clearly better.
I’m using it for my IG reel and quick behind the scene street photography and it is perfect for that - walking around and snapping quick video here and there. if your purpose is similar to mine it is a beautiful little discrete camera if not better invest in a gopro or something else but so far no complaints - it is quick, easy as well fun.
Yep I agree. For casual use and handheld etc
It’s a fun option.
I just wouldn’t choose it over a GoPro if image quality or robustness was the priority.
UPDATE NUMBER 2 (19th March 2021) = Insta have just contacted me and sent me a beta version of the latest firmware update that will be out soon.
So it will have 24 and 25fps as soon as that version is released, and they advised me as to the best settings to minimise jello... (use 30fps and not 50fps etc) But I am sad to say I just tested it again on 2 of my drones, and there is still jello, and thats with a grey dull day, so it will be even worse on a sunny day. Certainly using ND8 or ND16 does massively reduce jello, as my follow up video shows. But there is still some jello even then, and its now combined with motion blur artefacts, in every flight and combination of settings/mount/ND no ND/Drone etc that I tried.
Simply put, as far as I can tell, its the speed it reads from the whole sensor that is the issue, when it comes to HF vibrations.
Personally I do not think any FW update will fix this, but I am happy to try any newer firmware Insta sends me.
probably should get a proper mount for it too... as the strapping with rubber bands doesn't look like secure and stable mounting ... jello could be from that too ... as its mostly the case ...
@@poviliuxss ive already replied to this comment elsewhere, but to repeat myself, see description for the full list of mounts I tried, and the list of various quads i tried it on.
They are refusing to accept my return and refund while im within the first 15days
I have the Insta360 go 2 and I’m happy with the cam. I think its a really good cam, when you look at the size.
You forgot to say, that the Gopro costs much more than the Insta. In the app exists a frame puffer for slomo and much mor technologies like color plus etc…. I recommend it for creative people :).
not quite much for much better quality
i paid my go2 482 cad while i paid the hero 10 599
I am not a professional FPV pilot, but your follow up video looks great to me. I'm in! This tiny cam is perfect for my cat 😍
price of tiny cam is soolid
Its so smol you could strap it to your cat lol.
Agreed! they sent free GOs to just about every popular RUclipsr possible. Their are no harsh review because youtubers want the freebies to continue coming!
Thats quit the broad product reviewers. That they all lack integrity. So No chance this could be a good product.
I like mine. Works great as a secondary camera.
Plus the affiliate link to earn more money
@@SingaporeUntold what? That doesn't even make sense. Google translate fail.
@@Sledge0077 it means they earn a commission with an affiliate link. So if they want people to buy why would they say something negative about it 🤷🏻♂️ it’s simple logic. Google there is no sign of intelligent life.
I don’t do fpv so it doesn’t matter to me. I use it to record vlogging while hiking. I wish there’s a mic input or Bluetooth mic option.
Yep for that it’s a good option. (As long as battery life and lack of SD slot isn’t a issue)
My insta360 One R has an airpods pairing option, im surprised it doesn’t have that
I wonder if they will add an option to add Apple airpods or some bluetooth mic?
Great critical review!
Have you seen Nurk FPV's video on this? (btw, totally agree with everyone about the reviews being pretty biased bc you tubers were gifted them or paid for the review). But, having said that, it seems that Insta360 is working to make this a real option for fpv... Time will tell.
Thank you again!
With a ND16, 30fps and the FPV-Stabilization in Studio 2021 my vid looked almost jello-free. I think this can be quite improved a bit still in firmware. I agree, there might be a slow reading speed out of the sensor to blame for this to happen at all though. Let's see how much they can fix that. I really love that cam a lot for my tinyhawks.
With rubber gasket ruclips.net/video/Nm-FYu4R5nY/видео.html , you don't need ND filter. You will have zero jello.
Whit the go pro you can enjoy a lot une time the battery is low just put another one and still enjoy but insta after 30 mor minutes you will be unhappy
i saw in a video that nurk got one, he was using it to vlog on, but this explains why he hasen't done a review on it, since he got it for free, he won't do a bad review...thanks for your honesty...getting rear on fpv products these days
I think on a perfectly tuned quad. With a really good dampened mount. You could get good results with it.
But I tried it on 3 diff quads in a multitude of mount attempts. And it struggled each time.
While the go pro was fine.
So in the real world with imperfect flying and imperfect prop balance etc. It’s not a great choice. :(
@@biscuitsalive have a lookout for caddx new camera called peanut...suppost too challange the beta360 go 2...with better stabilization
@@MrHauf85 it is the insta360 go 2 so it'll have the same issues.
@@geehe We don't know that. Caddx are super vague about what it is. I asked them directly and the answer I got was far from a confirmation on that.
@@fooojin they said that on a facebook post
Before commenting on my mounting method, look at description, where I listed the various ways I tried to mount it to help with the jello problem. (also listen to what I said in the video, where I also pointed out that I tried many different ways to mount it). I did test MULTIPLE ways of mounting the Go2, and I also tried it on 3 completely different quads. All of which my hero 8 has zero jello issues with, but all of which the Go2 did have jello issues with. (Either some slight jello, or major jello.) ... and yes i tried mounting it vertically, and horizontally.
i saw a video by "AuthenTech - Ben Schmanke" called "GoPro HERO 9 vs Insta360 GO 2!" close to the end he also had jello but he removed the gopro and mounted only the insta360 and that fixed it. im sure he tried several ways and found a solution. maybe send him a message on instagram to see how he solved his if removing the gopro and using only the insta360 isnt the solution.
@@truthseeker6804 I think it’s just temperamental generally. And prone to jello.
So simply flying different props could make jello flare up.
But like I explained. I tried it on 3 completely different quads. With about 15 different mounting options. And the problem was either bad/terrible, or subtle but still there at times.
Never went away all together.
@@biscuitsalive okay then its not worth the risk of jello. so the gopro should be ok.
Awesome video thanks Biscuitsalive, really useful!
The sponsored / paid reviews were really irritating
Ya well can you put your gopro inside a beer mug and drink a beer? I didn't think so 🤣
My main quad has no vibration at all. Cause it has a broken motor and is currently grounded.
I think they fixed it with fw update. I use it on 2.5” and a lot on 5”, albeit racing. It’s great for me.
Good to know.
a honest and detailed review... away from the hype... finally. thanks!
I wouldn’t call it detailed. I could have done a detailed review. But just wanted to explain my specific purpose of use. And why it doesn’t suit that purpose. (It would suit casual fun family candid type use much better.)
I just ordered this camera. I am recording my private outdoor adventures.
Reason I ordered it is that camera is that it is small and handy. I don't need other extra mounting.
When I started recording few years ago, I took many mounts to my escapades but after years I found that I don't need extra handlers. Only basic head-mount. That's all.
Summarizing - very handy camera that fits into pocket.
And I don't need to have 4k.
And it has great software stabilization.
And it has good Android software.
@Viver na Espanha e Legalizar , GoPro is good, too. Other features, a little bit different target.
Now, go 2 fits my needs.
This is exactly what I was worried about. I saw some insane jello on FPV drones and found only 1 video where someone has found a way to get perfect footage, with a special mount and perfectly tuned quad. Thx for the video, unfortunately not great for FPV
Thank you for the honest review. I ve been searching for the review and I found this.
I think this has been resolved via firmware. I just got mine and did not have the same results.
The GO2 has default horizon leveling...how you managed make it turn over?suspicious
There is FPV Stab option as well. If u watch the follow up I stated the stabilisation mode on screen.
For cinewhoops I chose horizon level. For 5” freestyle I chose “FPV” stab mode.
You guys are lucky, you can return stuff... Where I'm from, once we bought it, even if its spoilt we can only do an exchange, never return. Thanks for the useful info!
A return is not always what you think it is, most of the time you get back someone else’s return not a new product, so the possibility of you actually getting a product that works is even less when you return it for a replacement it’s just someone else’s problem shipped to you. I guess if you wanna make yourself feel better you can say it’s a good deal.
Exactly the same problems - wish I’d seen this review first. Unusable footage for FPV. Returns policy from Insta store is terrible also. Strongly suggest this product is avoided. Real shame as on paper looked a great solution for smaller quads.
Nice review! Still waiting on mine.
Same😊
Thanks for the review! You just save me a lot of money!
Sadly i have to agree. I have tested it on my 3" and 4" for a few days and i found no way to remove the jello completely. I am trying to return mine.
Will get a SMO4K or something instead. I dont own a GO1 but from what i have seen GO2 is got way more problems with jello. I want to like it for FPV but the jello is so ugly i cant really accept it.
I use the Caddx Tarsier V2 for a year now on all my 3inch quads. No jello at all. but also not stabilized. So windy conditions are pretty tricky. With no wind the footage looks pretty good imo... Just check the following video for example: ruclips.net/video/N3mEcKE_7bk/видео.html
At any stage did you try a 3d printed mount? Is it all possible that it’s your tune? I’ve got the insta360 go 1 and both of those things ended up fixing the jello. Just remember that this is lighter than a gopro so stabilising it will be harder. I think this is a case of user error over the cameras fault
Look at description. I listed the ways I mounted. Multiple. And on 3 completely different quads.
Had issues with all. While GoPro is fine on all.
I hadn’t had any issue with mine until today, clipped a tree only slightly and the rest of the flight footage was unusable....will be interesting to see if it’s like this all the time now.
so glad i stumbled upon this, i have the exact same betafpv95x and i was closely considering to get this cam
Be kept the go2. But just use it for casual use/ motorbike etc.
I can get ok results on a quad.
But it’s not consistent. (And strong NDs required)
Naked hero 8 all the way for lightweight option. :)
Could SMO 4K give better results on small cinewhoops? (without considering Gopro)
Very to the point review. That said, not everyone is using an action cam for FPV drone view. Also, RUclips does push your video to non-drone users so not everyone knows the context just seeing from your title. It will be great if you can change the title to “not recommended for drone FPV”. There had been people using it to quite some success in some relatively high vibration situations (well, I suppose Mountain Biking is still way less vibration than drone applications).
Similarly, I don’t think your repeated assertion that most those people who like the camera are paid by insta is necessary. Some might just have a different use case compared to you and encounters the camera’s limitations less than you do. It is also possible that they are more excited by the possibility the small form factor provides and are less held back by the camera’s compromises.
Not sure about best ways to mount. I have seen several reviews where they either printed their own mount or ordered a GoPro style mount for it and put it in their quad. The footage in those reviews looked solid to me. It definitely has as many negatives as positives overall, but most should know that before buying, such as the "no SD card" limited storage, and limited battery. Good review, but I think you can still find a solution to reduce the jello.. I'm pretty sure its still how you are mounting it.
I put a list of all the mounts tried in description.
Had it weeks now and tried it every which way.
Only way to reduce jello is use strong NDs.
And that can still give the odd jerk and flutter.
Also tried it on 4 different quads now.
You can get good results.
But it’s not consistently my good.
Never had one entire flight without some small issue.
GoPro is much much more resilient and consistently reliable.
So for me it’s not worth the risk of ruining a perfect flight footage because of a over sensitive camera.
So what you suggest what kinda camera will suit the best.. I have geprc 25 smart
how can I just have the insta360 horizontal, and not HAVE to rotate the video in the application every single time?
whenever I have the camera horizontal on a quad, and connect the camera to my iphone, the video is always portrait mode and requires me to rotate it.
please tell me how can I use the video in horizontal mode, and always get video how you would expect it to be in landscape mode without having to rotate the video?
Thanks for this, and for the follow up video with ND filtering. Seems like the go2 + ND is fine if you are just a hobbyist looking for some video to share on social media. I'm addicted now to very lightweight 5" flying and can't see putting a gopro back on my freestyle quads. And naked gopros seem way too fragile.
Yep for Facebook feed etc the quality will be great.
But clearly I’m a bit fussy.
For 4k work the “ghosting” blur artefacts etc just bug me too much.
Naked GoPro for me. :)
P.s. if you do get one.
Just buy some cheap but decent quality ND 8 gel.
You can cut it into a little circle and pop it directly into the removable lens cover on the GO2.
If 8 isn’t enough. Pop two bits in to make it 16. :)
@@biscuitsalive
Just a heads up: if you stack ND filters they are not really Neutral anymore. Color casts and vignetting might occur -> More color correction work might be needed.
when you test your go2, do you have gopro with it? some reviewers noticed that the jello is gone when go2 is riding solo the drone
List of mounts and drones tried in description
First honest review. Was thinking of purchasing it for mountain biking, not for fpv, but still I think I will give it a miss now. Thanks for the review. All the best from Ireland.
I was using it today for mountain biking.
It’s not too bad.
If mounted on body or helmet etc.
On shaky bike it might struggle.
Be aware there is no SD card slot. So 20-30 mins footage max. (Battery is similar)
I was going to buy it for FPV. It's gopro is still the way to go.
Yes, but Gopro 9 is heavy, freezup and it's unreliable. IMHO better wait for DJI Osmo action #2.
@@lorenzo7788 gopro 8 is cheaper 😁
@@serang IMHO the 8 has a different big flaw to consider: the fixed glass lens cover.
NO CAMERA IS PERFECT for ALL the situations
this is just one use case, i use it for daily vlogging and this featherweight camera is a secret weapon that really helps me
ok so basically what this video is telling me is go ahead and buy an insta go 2; ironically your review which was made as a caution for potential buyers, is the one video that convinced me that it is pretty darn good about not overexposing hehe. my only hold up is that i’m not used to spending money on gadgets. i’m still debating whether i should buy it new, or buy a used older model. all i want it for is recording five minute videos on my random slow bike rides and upload them on instagram without needing a computer. so in a sense i can whip out my phone and record in ultrawide, but i can only do this in certain situations and i would like to have a more consistent angle so that my insta posts are more similar in style with just the scenery changing.
What about no stabilisation and using gyroflow?
Got one from watching positive reviews and received one with freezing/overheating issues where it shuts down after several minutes and won't restart for hours. Customer service and repair is THE WORST experience I have ever encountered. They are now telling me nothing is wrong and want to send my defective camera back.
Yep. It’s no surprise that there were so many good reviews. They were asking everyone to do paid reviews for that camera.
(Even offered to pay me to remove my negative one.)
I had a few freezes. But not that many to be honest. Maybe a temperature thing?
Thanks for the review.....I'm sticking with my GoPro9 and ReelSteady until something better comes along. Haven't found anything better yet...
Agreed. Although I find hero 8 the best balance between weight and price, ruggedness and
Image quality.
(Reelsteady works with H8 just as well as H9)
this mini camera is not designed to be used on a drone ! it is not its job! it is a great all-purpose camera and that's it ! most drones already have their own camera, no need to add a camera which is not designed for drones.
did you ever try FPV stabilization from insta Studio? the result its really good.
Yep tried all options.
You can’t stabilise out rolling shutter issues. Baked into the footage.
In my opinion it's a gimmick I neat toy for select situations...... I can barely get more than 10 minutes out of it without it overheating.
The battery lasts maybe 15 minutes when you're actually using it as an action camera with rocksteady and her eyes until.
About the only way I can get it till maybe last a little bit longer as if I don't connect it to my phone and I place it on the windshield with the defroster on AC cooling it for a time-lapse / driveing dashcam video
The whole reason I purchase it was because I felt it would be more discreet which it is and as long as you can film what you need in less than 5 or 10 minutes that's great .
I don't understand the dislikes. You NEED videos criticizing the camera so you k ow exactly what you're getting into. I plan to buy this and need to be 100% sure because 300$ isn't less money especially for a student.
hiii... want ask, its no good for fpv insta360 go 2??
Thanks for the useful FPV information on this camera. Been on the fence between picking this up or perhaps the SMO 4K (which seems to sell out quite a bit). I have the Insta360 GO (vs1) but honestly never really use it. Love my GoPro10 on my larger quads...just looking for the best video camera for my smaller micro-quads.
If you don’t mind the lack of robustness, a naked GoPro is super light and dependable.
Not trying to be critical or anything but out of curiosity, why is it that every reviewer that did not get a certain item for free to review always lay claim to have the most honest review? From what I've noticed also is that all the so called "honest" reviews are always negative. It's pretty weird to say the least. As I read the comments it's like most everyone seem to be people who are actively looking for a reason not to get the camera. It's like they've already convinced themselves even before seeing your video that they hate the camera and simply used your review as approval to judge after the fact. Yeah, some reviewers may be biased because they received a product for free but that does not mean they all are.
I bought the product early. And at that point every single review I had watched was overwhelmingly positive and only showing the positives.
So when I received it I was pretty disappointed with the products performance.
Then when I rewatched the reviews trying to figure out what they were doing wrong I noticed how short the FPV clips were they choose to add. Clearly editing around issues. Or leaving them in in parts and simply not talking about them.
So yes I felt lied to by a bunch of shills that had been paid for their reviews. (They didn’t just get them free but were paid.)
Since uploading a negative take on the camera insta have been pretty forceful in attempting to remove my review. They offered “sponsorship” and support with free products if I removed my review.
So I can see why there are so few bad reviews. They have a very aggressive team that put a lot of money into creating good reviews.
I told them those were the results I got.
But offered to do lots more lengthy testing using the exact settings and mount etc they recommended.
But the results were still poor.
Thanks for the honest review
thank you for your info, honest review
Thanks for this review, this was just what I was thinking to use it for. Still looks great for other uses. Don't get why the number of dislikes, maybe bursting the bubble.
Glad it was useful. if i cared about dislike I wouldn't do youtube :) I think people mostly only want to hear good things, then it confirms their buying choices. I did end up keeping the go2, but i just use it for casual stuff. and not on my quads. its a fun camera, but gopro is still king of action cameras for me.
@@biscuitsalive Yeah, agree.
Do you have the labs firmware on your gopro? Your walking shot should look much better in RSGO with labs firmware
Thanks for your honesty. I am reconsidering buying it.
The real question is why are you comparing the latest go2 with gopro 8 weight when the latest gopro offering is gopro 9 which is clearly bigger and heavier and also more expensive. Also please tell us how many times did you have to take out the battery out from the gopro 8 as it is bugged as hell and freezing constantly even during recording. You should explain your comparisons in your videos, so it looks like an honest review. Not everyone is reading your updates in the comments section. Now I don’t know if you are great honest youtuber or not.
I did a video previously why the 9 isn’t worth the upgrade from 8 for FPV.
For real steady use (best results that way)
They require 4:3 AR.
The hero 9 doesn’t upgrade 4:3. So same quality as H8. (5k only for 16:9)
I had H9 and didn’t need it.
So I’m comparing the current best option for FPV to the go2.
I’ve never had freezing issues with my hero 8.
I’ve heard others say that so I know it’s a thing.
But never had that problem myself.
And owned 3 of them now.
(Always shoot in 4k 25 fps or 2.7k 50 fps)
So maybe it’s certain settings that cause freeze.
And I’ve snow done 3 video updates on go2.
Including covering latest beta firmware.
P.s. I’ve had freezes on go2.
But not many.
Have you tried increasing your quad tpa% and reducing the tpa breakthrough value to your usage throttle range. It really² helped me iron out the jellos on my quads and many others, worth giving it a shot imo. Great input on the cam btw. Im thinking of getting one for the long range flight, your vid helps me get a different perspective
I tried it across 4 different quads.
All of which don’t give a GoPro hero 8 or session 5 any problems at all.
But all gave the go2 problems.
I tried flying smooth and changing props.
But only thing that reduced jello was ND filters.
@@biscuitsalive Fair enough, thats quite a comparison. Too bad tho..
Thx! Big issue to me is this tiny thing can't record more than 15mins which is not comparable to GoPro...
Too bad the SMO4K has terrible customer support and very low availability. I chose the Go2 over the SMO4K for those reasons
I was thinking the same thing
@@jandomingo9806 BetaFPV is junk. I’ll never buy from them again
👍🏻 thanks for review
Did you alter the propeller number on your quads to minimize or alter the resonant vibration frequency? Maybe try a 5 or six bladed prop to see if that helps. Increasing the resonant frequency may alter how jello manifests. Is it possible that the jello is from the internal board with accelerometer not isolated from case? would it be worth attempting an open up to determine source? Would an algorithm upgrade allow for specific FPV Drone filter of resonance? Dunno. Thanks for the video. I wonder if a silicone fluid adhesive RTV type injected into the case would dampen the micro vibrations. It would be interesting to measure the frequency that elicits it. Great feedback thanks again for your review.
I really think it’s just down to the speed it reads from the sensor.
Bit too slow, so camera movement can happen before it reaches the bottom of sensor.
But no I didn’t change props.
End of day each of my quads give the hero 8 no problems at all (even in bright sunlight with NO ND. )
So it’s just not worth the hassles or trying to use the go2 and having a constant struggle with jello.
If you look at my follow up vid (link above) u can see it’s passable with a ND filter. But then y get motion blur artefacts. Which I also hate. But at least jello is gone.
Very good comparison.
great review straight to the point no bs
I also hate the stutter artefacts on fpv videos!! I still haven"t seen a good looking Instan360 go2 video.
first honest review
im trying to return it and im within the 15days but they refuse to refund
I'm not an FPV droner and I LOVE my original Go. Just unboxed my Go 2 and I can't wait to put it through its paces. I most definitely will NOT be returning the Go 2. NEVER!
I feel like you missed out on the only mounting option that matters...a TPU mount. Feel like the right TPU mount would help this situation. A 26g camera with this kind of quality is a huge deal, if it needs a flexible TPU mount, then so be it, that's far from a reason to return it in my book.
I have one and used it in the test.
List in description
Funny!!! I'm also on the search for the holy grail (jello tolerant ultralight HD cam). Dont bother with the instaSMO 4k - been there - not goot. Also jello affine - even with ND filters (they send it out with ND16 F). Only works kinda well on 4" drones (guess the higher RPM creates higher frequ vibrations).
Looks like only those naked gopro6s are an option...
Nice to see you review it (and name it). Funny - after my negative review of the InstaOneR - Insta contacted me and now sent me the insta One X2 :) So they chase down every negative review ;)
For me the best cam to fight jello has been the Gopro7 (and upwards) since their magic sauce in there really elimitates most jello even on my old, large prop Black Snapper (it has TONS of vibrations). greets from Austria, subbed immediatly, let me know when you find a good, small cam!!!
4" is extremely smooth, the blackbox gyro tracks are the cleanest I've seen between 2-7" . . so it's easy to produce good footage with them. I think this cameras has either the lens or the sensor board inside the case loose, I've seen this behaviour on cameras that are broken like that many, many times. Didn't think they'd let SMO out like that, kinda sad to see a camera manufacturer doesn't build the cameras to the purpose they're selling them for.
It seems that Gopro is working hard to loose its supremacy in the FPV world. Its app is getting worse and worse. No more protune options for session 5 users like me. The 9 freezup itself and it is unreliable (and HEAVY). I have big hopes about the coming of the osmo action 2. 🤞
probably should get a proper mount for it too... as the strapping with rubber bands doesn't look like secure and stable mounting ... jello could be from that too ... as its mostly the case ...
Have a look in the description. I listed all the mounts that I tested.
TPU vertical mounts etc.
I did explain in the vid that I tried many different ways to mount it. But nobody listens. :)
@@biscuitsalive probably I just missed that part :D but anyways it looks like everybody else who I watch have same issues and then with some slight tuning, update, or something else fixing this issue :) a specially with fpv :) so thats why I raised this question as I defo totaly missed that part in the video about other mounts and I rarely read descriptions of the video :D if something sorry for bothering :D :D
@@poviliuxss no probs. It’s just a comment I’ve had a lot. I should have shown all the mounts I tried in the vid.
End of day you can get ok results of you use a ND with it.
But is just much more prone to jello than a GoPro.
All of my quads I can use gopros on with AND without NDs I get no jello and no issues.
Yet on every quad the go2 really struggles.
thx!!! you saved my money :)
I have this mounted on my dogs harness and it’s smooth as glass with her stabilization so maybe you should put it on the right setting
ok but i know that insta have app and you can change your Point your view ? and make it more smothe
I’m looking for a small camera like this but I feel the quality isn’t as good. Any recommendation besides the GoPro ?? Thanks
I’ve had the go2, osmo action, and a load of different gopros.
I would just say get a hero 6,7 or 8.
Best bang for your bucks.
I’m hoping they do a new “session” that was such a good form factor.
Hero 8 inside a session shape.
There are lots of Chinese and other cameras. Some look ok.
But always seems to be some weakness.
Toughness or jello or colour or something.
You are speaking about motionblur effects with ND filter. Do you have any sample footage? Also woould love to see the mounts that you did. Actually the v3 is also not the BEST in terms of vibrations... maybe you just need a better tuned / build quad?
There are also different stabalization modes right? How does it look without any stabalization?
Look at description. List of mounts I tried across 3 totally different quads.
All of which the GoPro is fine on. But go2 had issues with.
I still have the camera so might do a follow up to show the motion blur issue.
But it’s common to any device/camera. If you slow shutter down and camera is shook. Then regardless of stabilisation you get on/off blurs.
Update.
I’m uploading a follow up vid using ND (showing it on 3 diff quads)
So I can see for yourself once that’s up.
I will post that unlisted with the link here in a pinned comment
Here is a follow up vid, shoes the motion blur artefacts with NDs etc - ruclips.net/video/h2a0PYOos2U/видео.html
@@biscuitsalive thanks mate!
Dang I really was interested in this. This is with flowstate post processing? Sorry I must've missed you saying that.
Yep some with flowstate FPV mode some with flowstate level horizon. (Level hor not best for more acrobatic moves)
I shot everything in the pro mode so you have to process all of those shots in the app.
Else you get a giant square video showing the lens circle.
Exactly what I needed to know before I find a solution to HD on micros. Thank you.
I just got this camera and only had jello on the protek25. I am loving mine so far. Check my channel for some samples if you wish.
@@AdventureFPV will do, thanks. Keep'em coming.
I wonder why some people talk about battery.. with it size only thumb size ..literally..you hope the battery will last forever (hours)?..even drone like air 2 only half an hour.. people who buy this think I thing, generally must be already have other camera ( action camera/360).. not the one and only.. go 2 just more novelty, just buy and have fun..if you have budget
with the small size , i think the batt life is reasonable , I'm more concern on the storage space , once it's full we need to download it to our phone before we can continue recording T_T
@@JeremyCWW insta left a room for future series improvementmen or minor upgrade..like they can easily release go 2 with 64 or 128 gb. Maybe they adopt from company like apple, who still have I pad with 32gb only. But, with limited storage, users will learning to be selective and diligent (to download)..
@@om_Sed Agree , sad to see that happen, it's really a deal breaker for me , I mean the storage, guess I have to look at gopro or insta360 one r
I knew something was up when practically no fpv channels reviewed it and there’s hardly any footage of it on a drone. The ones that are out there are heavily edited and 20 min of talking with 1 min of footage dispersed. Thanks you. Hopefully they fix it with firmware but it trying to cancel my order for now.
Compare to the i sta 360 go 1 is the version 1 even better?
Can i buy it from you?
Great review!
Im very annoyed at the company as they wont ship me a unit to review bc I dont have enough reach but had a 10 million person reach last month.. they really dont care about the smaller creators ig😔
should their nd-filter solve the jello issu? I had the v1 but got terrible jello too and sold it shortly after:(
If you look at the description there’s a link to a follow up vid.
That shows flight with ND.
Yes it looks much better with ND.
But jello is replaced with motion blur artefacts.
Which is intermittent. But not as bad as the jello.
Still nowhere near as rick solid as the GoPro.
But it is useable. Just much more of a hassle to get half decent video out of it when compared to a GP
@@biscuitsalive actually i love good old motion blurr in fpv videos but i guess that just a question of taste;)
@@rawpicsfpv3516 motion blur is fine.
On/off motion blur is bad.
For instance look at my mates face when I tried to fly under his legs.
It’s blurry/ sharp/ blurry /sharp.
That’s the camera /drone twitching about. And the stabilised footage correcting it.
The motion blur is baked in and no amount of stabilisation can fix all those irregular blurs.
@@biscuitsalive okay interesting. Thank you for your honesty!;) Its propably to expencive for me anyways;) Still hoping for caddx`s version though!
Would you think that the original Insta360 Go is "better" for FPV even with it's limitations?
Probably not. Heard plenty people complaining about jello on that one too. (But never tried it myself)
Gutted!! I have the version 1 as a extra to strap on my geprc cinepro and a few tiny whoops I use a naked gopro on my betafpv95x v1 and my 4" explorer i was really hoping this go 2 was going to be a winner for the longer record times and higher resolution and the remote was an absolute bonus! Have yiu use the go one?
I never tried the go 1 no.
But heard it had jello issues too.
@@biscuitsalive ruclips.net/video/9T9sKIBC5Q8/видео.html
No problems on my geprc cinepro but that is a rock of a little quad I havnt tried it on my bumblebee I use a full size gopro on that or my 95x v2 I know the 95x v3 has had more jello issues than the v2 I have the v3 frame I was going to build one but my v2 is going to good to change it up right now. I might try the go 1 on all my quads see if there is any jello issues
For bang for buck value, i like the GoPro 8 black, with led grey front screen, has decent sound, stability
the caddy peanut is way better..the jello is a common problem but you have to mount the cameras vertical with soft tpu with props out of the view...
Tried 3 diff TPU mounts. Vertically. On 3 diff quads.
The go2had issues with all of them.
Dude I love this action camera the size the sleep design and the fact that it has better stabilization then go pro and you don’t even have to spend money on a Verizon line stabilizer lens.?
If you’re bitching about the battery not lasting long on the actual camera you can buy a charging mount plus a battery that is used to charge the oculus fits into that charging mount so you get like two hours a recordable footage
This problem is only for drones?
Yep this vid was specific for drones.
Here is a follow up where I cover general use-
ruclips.net/video/YT7FWz6QBrA/видео.html
could you test out not using the insta360 stabilization but rather use blackbox data to stabilize with reelsteady?
I shot in pro video mode. So that doesn’t stabilise in camera. (Used the insta app)
I don’t think RS is compatible.
Maybe it will be down the line. But not now as far as I’m aware.
But the problem isn’t the stabilisation, it’s the rolling shutter. Stabilisation can’t fix that.
Have you tried the FPV stabilization option in the program? because by other FPV videos they didn't seem to have such problems
Yes.
And I’ve seen many other people with jello.
They just haven’t highlighted it. (Not many of them at least.)
Look at all the big vids on this that feature FPV
(Potato jet etc)
They all show jello. They just didn’t talk about it because they were being paid.
There are a few with no jello. That’s either poor light or NDs.
Here’s one I shot last night.
So as you can see you can remove jello.
But in poor light (as in this case)
Or with ND.
Shoot in sunlight with no ND and it’s problematic.
ruclips.net/video/Sj5_IRO2RQI/видео.html
By the way.
I did clearly put on the screen what settings I was using. Says “FPV stab mode”
Great Review. But what do you recommend for fpv?
Hero 8. Or if you need lighter then a naked hero 8 :)
Best image quality for your bucks by far.
(Especially when used with reel steady)
Or if you want to save some money a hero 6 or session5
@@biscuitsalive what about the insta 360 SMO? Gopro needs to be stripped.
@@chrisbee5481 the image looks good.
But I’ve heard that’s prone to jello too.
(Will need NDs)
And it’s not compatible to reelsteady. As far as I know.
But I have seen people get good results from it.
This stabilisation on the gopros and reel steady using the gyro data makes me wonder about if we can add gyro data to big cameras to get mad stabilisation that way
They do. You can do that with several
Cameras now. Eg the Sony a7siii.
You have to speed shutter up. But yes you can stabilise in post just like reelsteady does for GP
Is this still the case with the v2?
how I activate the flowstate stabilization?
Nothing compares to GoPro on a quad. Even these big ass shendrone black magic RED setups don’t warrant enough better footage to justify the price tag. It’s like 10x the price for 5% better footage. Maybe it’s worth it for color grading alone, but even then GoPro flat is awesome. Here’s a thought though. Print a cage larger than the camera that has rubber band mounts. Then mount it in with like 5 rubber bands??? Just a random thought.
The law of diminishing returns certainly does seem to drop down after GoPro quite sharply.
Low light and difficult dynamic range is a weakness of the GoPro.
And it would be great to see 10 bit colour in a new action camera.
And perhaps a non fisheye but very wide option. (Do we didn’t need to correct bendy horizons digitally )
@@biscuitsalive if DJI would partner with black magic they could have had a killer drone with the new FPV. Imagine if it filmed BRAw to an SD card.
Thanks for honest review
Hello friend, the gelatin effect not only depends on the support, you had the propellers in good condition
Read the description. Tried multiple mounts. Across multiple drones.
All of which give GoPro no issues....
Thank you