@@forvafor well, most of them did, and plenty of them are busy with life so I can't blame them. I'm just missing the past stuff we usually do during college.
Main differences to look out for in Dota as a beginner coming from LoL: 1. You have to buy Teleport consumables in Dota. Everyone can (and must) buy TP. In more skilled brackets, players will TP to protect their teammates from dives and their towers from split pushers, so keep that in mind. 2. You don't turn instantly when moving in the opposite direction as you are facing. There is a short delay called a 'turn rate'. 3. You can kill your own team's creeps, denying the enemy gold and experience. You can only do this with auto attacks, and only when the creep is below 50% HP. 4. There are lots of point-and-click CC and burst abilities, so don't rely on your skillshot dodging skills from LoL to outplay enemies. 5. You cannot recall to base. You can, however, TP to your fountain by using the consumable TP item. 6. You lose gold when you die. 7. You don't have to be near shop to buy items. When you're away, the items will be put into your "stash" and can be retrieved either personally or using a Courier. 8. You don't have Runes, Summoner Spells or Trinkets. 9. If you have enough gold, you can "buyback" and respawn at base. Use this only when you absolutely have to, as buyback has a long cooldown and part of your remaining death timer gets carried over to your next death. 10. Jungle camps do not have respawn timers. They spawn at every minute mark, but only if there are no units in their camp at the time. You can use this to "block" jungle camps from spawning. You can also "stack" camps by pulling the creeps out of the camp zone as the timer is about to hit the next minute mark. 11. There are no Red, Blue, Dragon or Baron buffs. The Baron of the map, Roshan, drops an item called Aegis (similar to how Eye of the Herald is dropped from Rift Herald) that when picked up gives you a stronger Guardian Angel revive effect for 5 minutes, but takes up an inventory slot. Keep in mind that no matter who kills Roshan, anyone can pick up the Aegis. 12. You can divert tower aggro by attack-clicking an allied unit in the tower's range. You don't have to actually perform the attack though. 13. Mechanics and abilities that would be considered OP, unbalanced, anti-fun and game breaking in LoL are commonplace in Dota. Whether or not this is a good thing is up to you.
@Madifuho, Dota is A LOT more strategical game than LOL. Only the highground system brings a lot, because, using it, you can win fight even if enemy dominate you. Supports are not just harrassment tools, they have to control runes, stack and pull creeps so enemy gets no gold and exp and you dont push lane, and with the new 7.33 supports also control lotuses for a good hp and mana regen, and control wisdom runes for ex (cus good supports traditionally lack 1-3 lvls comparing to cores), with a new teleport so enemy dont gank you. Also supports have to bring utilities to core hero, possibly being their personal courrier, ganking allies of you won your lane. Supports must place vision all over the map, and break enemy's vision. Supports have to do everything so their core hero survives and enemy core goes to fight with jungle creeps. Abd it is only laning stage for one of 5 positions. I agree, in micro moments LOL is harder cus most skills are not simple point-and-click, and DOTA has, i think, only 1/3 skills requiring aim. But learning how to hit a skill is much easier than learning all macro mechanics in DOTA. Even with 200 hours as this pos 5 support I explained before, you can easily forget about stacking or pulling because it is really hard to remember all.
@@frosten5746 DOTA sounds like it's more my speed than League even though I played League for a few years (downloading DOTA now). However, I disagree with the general statement "learning how to hit a skill is much easier than learning all macro mechanics in DOTA". At least for someone like me, building habits to the maximize use of the macro mechanics you've described in DOTA sounds a lot easier because you can research, analyze games, and then take a systematic approach to help you form the habits. But the micro mechanics in League, particularly the skill shots seem to only be something you can learn by baptism of fire because there's no reliable way to practice and there's virtually no way to transfer knowledge or skill from one player to another.
I am only guardian 4 ( 2nd lowest rank), but however this is some tactics I often use, using some of the basic mechanics of Dota 2 (fret not, this is not coming from me. Rawdota-Henry, DATOHLEONG, and Gameleap taught me this. and also my English is self-taught, pls don't make fun of me
I am a league player who's been thinking of migrating to Dota or at least playing both for a change of pace, it feels very complex but then when i started league i would do weird shit like playing tank Draven and not warding anything at all.
True, im an Kha OTP but since the new Dota Anime on Netflix i was kinda curious to try Dota 2 again but then as a Serious try and not meme 1 game "That game is trash go back to League"
The way you pronounce "Moba" makes it sound like "Mobile", so I thought you were passive aggressive against LoL when you said "Whether you tried other mobile games like League of Legends" Also, keep up the good work, we need new blood in the Dota Community
Glad to see there's already toxicity even in a video about trying to encourage new players to check out the game, nice job guys, you completely convinced me that i should change my mind about trying out the game, thanks ^^b
@@asdfawfawefwafwfwefwfawfds1811 Hahaha, oh god. Are you serious dude? I come from league, a game just as worse as Dota when it comes to in-game toxicity, that shit is a stroll in the park for me and its something i can understand because people are competitive by nature. What's putting me off is people like you who constantly bash people that come from other games just to feed your superiority complex, a behavior that I've only ever seen in the Dota community. So yeah, congratulations, you've successfully separated the chaff from the grain and proved I'm not "strong" enough for Dota. Good luck with your constantly declining player base.
One factor in dota 2 is harder than league is visions and neutral camps. Visions in dota 2 is very fatal where you need to think a good placement and where as neutrals can shit on you
A wise man once said "there is no such thing as an average invoker player there is only trash and Godly" average invo players are considered trash, invoker can only be used effectively if you memorized all the spells and use it as fast as possible and as effectively as possible in every situation
2:17 On league, technically, you can use any champion for any role. There are crazy people out there that use a champion on a role they're not designed to be. 3:30 Another misconception, you are not forced to build a full item at the start. There are some "component items" that provides a weaker version of the passive it's "parent item" have. So sometimes it's alright to have a few component items for a while. 6:40 I don't think that needed explanation. Every game does that. Also that inventory. I kinda cringe at players who buy the same items twice on league, so can't say I like what I saw Yeah, nice game Ice Frog(this is sarcasm btw). This isn't my opinion as a league player, but as a gamer in general.
Most DotA players I know suck at League too, it's okay. DotA gets too much credit for being complex, but it really isn't. There's just a few extra things you need to keep in mind.
@@antemedon Like how to counter their techies with adequate positioning and outplays, magic damage resist auras and bkb, not pushing towers straight on but at an angle, strategic ward placement and sentries and when to get rid of those mines at secret at the best time. This is for 1 hero, not counting their team or your team much and the fact that all of that isn't free. It takes time and money. I think your statement isn't true for these reasons, but if you take small bites, you can eat up all the information. And yes it's true I'm dogshit at LoL.
@@klemenvidmar6307 @Klemen Vidmar see, most DotA players haven't played League long enough to even care to comprehend how similar both games are. I'm a veteran DotA 1 player who switched to league later, so I know how legit my assumptions are. We have teemo who's pretty similar to techies, so all that applies here too. Towers in DotA are dogshit. They're slow af and extremely easy to kill. You can't solo a turret in League because their defences skyrocket when minions aren't around. We have wards too, and wards to counter wards. 50% of every marksman's role in League is about positioning because they always get targetted first. DotA matches are pure chaos because every hero is trying to outplay every other hero. League has synergy. The only real differences in league and DotA are the elevation advantages, the ability to remove trees for strategic movement, denying creeps, the secret shop and a courier. League relies on teamwork and balanced out teams way more than DotA. League is also far more flexible because you can decide to play a physical damage champ as an ability damage one, or a tank as a nuker ane get away with it, DotA champs progress in a far more linear way. Agility heroes are the only ones who usually build attack speed, strength heroes are usually the only ones with a lot of health, etc etc.
There are videos that explain the simplest 5 tips in half an hour, just rambling and making you frustrated. You took very essential tips, put them in 12 minutes, and somehow made it feel like 1 minute. I learned so much, and I honestly didn't understand where time went. Great job, mate, and thank you for all the information!
For anyone stumbling upon this vid now. Dota 2 now has a much better tutorial for new users that actually teaches you how to play the game. The video does clear up a lot of things though and is a very good source of information
Wow! I was wondering whether to start playing DotA or LOL now I've made up my mind. I really love the depth, intensity and complexity of the game mechanics.
@@milk-pk4xk Probably, but you can also pay for cosmetics that make something far more noticeable than they originally are, like Mirana's infamous sperm arrow.
There are some important aspects that has to be taught to league players. The most important thing that isn't taught in many guides is healing. In league, if you get low, you have a 8 second recall and you spend the next 30 seconds walking back to lane. Doing so in league will not incur any penalties if one crashes the creep wave under the opponents tower to reset the wave. However, in dota, there is a courier system that enables people to ship regen items like salves, mangos, clarities and tangos. Therefore in most scenarios during the laning phase, dota heroes do not need to go back to base in most cases. But league players are bound by the mentality that if one needs to heal, one has to go back to base. This mentality screws up the play style and makes league players look like complete bots when they start dota. The next important thing that isn't taught to league players is the concept of dying. There is a large stigma to dying for league players. If you die, your opponent gains 300 gold, gains a free wave 120 gold and denies your wave (120 gold for you), making one death worth roughly 500 gold and lots of xp, enabling a lane to snowball out of hand. However, in dota, dying is not all that bad except for the pos 1 and pos 2. Supports can go super aggressive so as to draw pressure from the opponent so as to let their carries farm safely. The penalty of death is not as huge as it is in league as long as the pos 3-5s can waste their opponent's time. League players enter this game playing very safe, believing that their lives are very precious and blaming any other people with a high death count that is drawing pressure. This safe play means that league players end up doing nothing for the team. The last important thing that is not taught to league players are the roles. In league, roles are simple, top lane, you play tank, jungle, you play ganker, all you have to do is to outplay your opponent and stomp your lane to win. But in dota, different positions have different game plans. It's not just about stomping your opponent in lane. But this concept is never explained to league players. League players end up playing offlane safely so that they can scale like what they do in league. League players play support by harassing opponent in lane like what they do in league and end up soaking xp without pulling/stacking. League players end up joining in lots of fights playing safe lane carry because that is what they do in league. League players are essentially screwed when they play dota because they play dota like they play league. Most guides just ignore the basics of basics simply because they think it's so self-explanatory. No it isn't - especially for players that have developed habits from other games.
Another one is that rax's don't respawn, a small one, but it'll definitely throw league players off at first, also that "super" creeps give less gold (and i think less xp? I'm newly returning so idk what's changed in it's entirety)
I actually just downloaded Dota 2. Have never tried this or Dota before but I just heard how complicated this was compared to LoL. After watching ur vid, still looks insanely complex, but really appreciate you making this and highlighting the things you do and don’t need to focus on as a beginner. Nice job man !
man i actually remember when invoker hes ult didnt have a cooldown when i was a brat i watch who's elder to me playing dota 2 when they play invo i always look to there finger doing combo in clash
I like how simple you made the game sound lol, the whole "you don't care" just takes away all the nerves i had before downloading the game. I played Dota back in the day then onto to League for the past 10 yrs. Thought i would suck trying out Dota 2 since i found Dota mechanics difficult but after watching this, I really don't care whether i suck or not, just gonna jump in and see what happens.
I enjoy the "Everyone is OP so its ok" balance philosophy. LoL has been terrible for years from reverse powercreep + playing favorites + overtuned new champs
As a league player my head almost exploded from the amount of complexity. I can see similarities between the games like some of those runes being like red and blue buff but the whole high ground thing, being able to kill your own creeps, and a hidden shop outside of base blew my mind
Then you have aghanim item, which basically give your hero 2 new skills Oh wait did i mention about "talent tree", now you have another 6 options to customize your hero
@@ayobruce8211 I've been playind dota for years and picked up league 2 years ago cause some new friends play that over Dota. I can definitely say that that macro side is much easier on league. However the jukes are completely different for each game imo. Also instant turn rate was cancer to me in lol when I started. I think my biggest complaint for lol coming from Dota is how insane the scaling is and how extremely one sided some matches can be to the point of you basically being obsolete in lane if the kill you once. I'm curious to here (if you're a league player) what your biggest complaint would be for Dota 2. If there was one thing i would bring to league though it would be the ability to pump fake your spells with your stop key (ones with animations at least not instant ones like leblancs leap skill or whatever it is XD)
most of the mechanics he's explained have been around since dota mod, I'd say they're all pretty basic concepts. sure some things might change a little but most of it is pretty core concepts.
This is wrong. Most ppl can not communicate because they don’t know how to effectively communicate with teammates. I won so many games just because I keep telling my team what is my next step, ask core when they feel comfortable engaging, and telling people where could be a good place to play. Toxicity drops a lot if you can make reasonable proposals to get other people on board with your strategy.
@@davidnnn6986 I have no idea which games have you been playing - but in my DotA games, noone listens to a word said - with that said, 99% of the chat is something totally unecessary, if not negative and toxic - When I started playing with my chat mutted, the quality of my games rose up to about 250-350% percent. I was literally playing with the same toxic people, but since I wasn't listening to their whinning it was so much easier for me to concentrate and know what to do next.
This game is so convoluted. How could they think to not make a functional new player experience? Or competent video series at least? This video truly was the best starter guide for newbies.
Cause dota was: Play against bots with bots for hundreds of hours. Play against bots with humans for a couple hundreds of hours more. Que game vs other humans.
Worst than that, dota 2 has the WORST matchmaking in the world. I've only played like 5 matches and I was queued with people who plays the game since the day they were born
I just started playing the game. My first 2 heroes were support.. 2 dragon head thing and the litch both were very interesting.. I'm honestly surprising the depth of litch abilities after 1 match I found he's like super buffer with an op sheild ability
Im a league of legends player and i just started playing dota 2days ago, thought this game was gonna be more like league but no 💀. It is very hard to learn, but trying to learn the game is what's fun about it. I like playing viper now, he looks very cool, and can carry :Dd hope i get to learn this game more. Thanks for the vid man :))
just enjoy the game. everyone is carry at some point in the beginners game. as you play alot in unranked you will be matched by more experience (as well as trashtalkers) that will make you analyze the mechanics of the game more. GLHF / GGWP. [as of the moment, i enjoy playing "Drow Ranger", "Earthshaker", & "Phantom Lancer" especially in mid-game ganking]
Dota is so much fun if you have a friend who you want to catch up to. I started playing cause my friends invited me. It was honestly so much fun to learn, whenever i figured out a new mechanics id try to get it down as quickly as possible. Sadly now if i play dota it takes too much of my time so i just chill playing leauge and valorant.
The patience taken to make this video is actually inspiring I tried to get my friends to play dota and it was always challenging yet fun next time I'll just share this video lol
I'm here to quit league and hopefully find a better moba. I'm definitely a little less confused about the game after watching this video, so thanks! Edit: I've actually played the game now and holy moly! It is both way more confusing and way more fun than league! I totally see what you mean with every character is overpowered! I played Warlock two games... I just oneshot their entire team??? Like what!
I was addicted to LoL and managed to quit on March this year (2020). To be honest , Dota 2 is way too complicated compared to LoL which I just found out the mechanics i never knew before such as creeps pulling, camps stacking, and many more. And these things made this game more versatile and creative. And thank god, within these mechanics, they helped me to get through Legend 3 recently and I recommend for LoL players to try out this game for once.
Yup true. I played DoTA for about 6 years, and I tried playing LoL for new experience. LoL is more like Mobile Legend, you need to purchase champions to play them. New champions are too OP and the game is not balanced at all. DoTA is different thou, all heroes are free, u can just try using them in practice or lobby and get to know them better. DoTA is quite difficult at first, but after hours of playing and seeing different style of play, u can become better.
@@lineaspera_1 So true!!! For me, LOL = Mobile Legends and DotA 2 = Vain Glory (mobile version). And btw I hate ML fck ml and fck mobile gaming. I didnot meant that seriously, some are good tho.
Настолько прекрасно описал минимальные знания о доте. Я в шоке, сколько нужно знать новичку. Я это уже прошел, но до сих пор дота сложная и поэтому интересная игра. Спасибо за твои видео.
Lol from dota I went to LoL the back to Dota then Back to LoL Love them both but Dota is closer to home Razor main Also all heroes are an Uno Reverse Card And Good luck on playing Invoker
I would have added to the "every hero is op" part that every hero also has weaknesses, and items can patch those weaknesses to make heroes more powerful that goes beyond just giving damage or tank.
He did say that, just in different words. At least that's how I understood it as I'm listening to this video and downloading DOTA for the first time at the same time
You're on SEA Server Actually you don't care. Everyone one there doesn't care. Meta heroes? Thry don't care. Wards? They don't care. Winning the game? They don't care
I have grown up with lol but i will quit because i wan't real esport and i have my own laptop Friendship ended with lol dota 2 is now my new best friend
@@NoOne4k Okay but a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, a bearded monk with a laser sword cut of a whiney boys legs and yelled he loved him, all while standing a little bit higher on a mound of dirt than him.
Lol I started installing DOTA 2 but I cancelled the install after watching the video. It's not a bad video, but my god, the game is just way too complex for me to put time into... This is why I enjoyed HOTS more.
The summary could be more detail. There is an order to the objectives: safe lane tier 1, take enemy jungle, ward it, take mid tier 1, pressure safelane t2, take smart fights and set up for rosh, take rosh, use aegis to take enemy triangle, squeeze enemy off entire map, lock them in base, use aegis to hit hg, wait a bit, get 2nd aegis, win game.
I think the most important thing for new players is to play with bots, increasing their difficulty from passive to unfair. You also can do it with team of other human beings. And learn a little bit about settings, so you can adjust them to your personal preferences. Then watch guides about heroes and some streams (to learn how game will go with actual players), read items descriptions and try it in private lobby. Then you're good to go play actual pubs and not completely ruin your good mood because of toxic teammates screaming at your mistakes.
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FINALLY, SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE MANY PEOPLE START PLAYING DOTA INSTEAD OF QUITTING!
i see what u did there
I think its the other way around haha this guide makes newer player not try it. Look most people watch this videos are people that plays dota.
@@yoink9148 yes
they will quit again if their mentality cant handle the trashtalkers....oh wait, thats only at Sea server, but you dont care
if u cant beat them join them )
Wow I got so used to playing Dota that i forgot how hard and complex it is for newer players
Yeah man we do as well
Same. That's why I'm very open to invite and tutor new players who wants to play it. I just want friends to play with like in the old days... :(
Me too man
@@jeaneljaylamputi2215 oh, did your friends leave Dota?
@@forvafor well, most of them did, and plenty of them are busy with life so I can't blame them. I'm just missing the past stuff we usually do during college.
Dota 2 - You don't care
lmao
No one cares but still 30kk price pool every year. GabeN Clap
@@lolwhatever7307 million' symbol is M, not kk 🤣
@@enso8762 bruh, k just means x*1000, you can use as much k's as you want
@@lolwhatever7307 lmao
Main differences to look out for in Dota as a beginner coming from LoL:
1. You have to buy Teleport consumables in Dota. Everyone can (and must) buy TP. In more skilled brackets, players will TP to protect their teammates from dives and their towers from split pushers, so keep that in mind.
2. You don't turn instantly when moving in the opposite direction as you are facing. There is a short delay called a 'turn rate'.
3. You can kill your own team's creeps, denying the enemy gold and experience. You can only do this with auto attacks, and only when the creep is below 50% HP.
4. There are lots of point-and-click CC and burst abilities, so don't rely on your skillshot dodging skills from LoL to outplay enemies.
5. You cannot recall to base. You can, however, TP to your fountain by using the consumable TP item.
6. You lose gold when you die.
7. You don't have to be near shop to buy items. When you're away, the items will be put into your "stash" and can be retrieved either personally or using a Courier.
8. You don't have Runes, Summoner Spells or Trinkets.
9. If you have enough gold, you can "buyback" and respawn at base. Use this only when you absolutely have to, as buyback has a long cooldown and part of your remaining death timer gets carried over to your next death.
10. Jungle camps do not have respawn timers. They spawn at every minute mark, but only if there are no units in their camp at the time. You can use this to "block" jungle camps from spawning. You can also "stack" camps by pulling the creeps out of the camp zone as the timer is about to hit the next minute mark.
11. There are no Red, Blue, Dragon or Baron buffs. The Baron of the map, Roshan, drops an item called Aegis (similar to how Eye of the Herald is dropped from Rift Herald) that when picked up gives you a stronger Guardian Angel revive effect for 5 minutes, but takes up an inventory slot. Keep in mind that no matter who kills Roshan, anyone can pick up the Aegis.
12. You can divert tower aggro by attack-clicking an allied unit in the tower's range. You don't have to actually perform the attack though.
13. Mechanics and abilities that would be considered OP, unbalanced, anti-fun and game breaking in LoL are commonplace in Dota. Whether or not this is a good thing is up to you.
@Madifuho, Dota is A LOT more strategical game than LOL. Only the highground system brings a lot, because, using it, you can win fight even if enemy dominate you. Supports are not just harrassment tools, they have to control runes, stack and pull creeps so enemy gets no gold and exp and you dont push lane, and with the new 7.33 supports also control lotuses for a good hp and mana regen, and control wisdom runes for ex (cus good supports traditionally lack 1-3 lvls comparing to cores), with a new teleport so enemy dont gank you. Also supports have to bring utilities to core hero, possibly being their personal courrier, ganking allies of you won your lane. Supports must place vision all over the map, and break enemy's vision. Supports have to do everything so their core hero survives and enemy core goes to fight with jungle creeps. Abd it is only laning stage for one of 5 positions.
I agree, in micro moments LOL is harder cus most skills are not simple point-and-click, and DOTA has, i think, only 1/3 skills requiring aim. But learning how to hit a skill is much easier than learning all macro mechanics in DOTA. Even with 200 hours as this pos 5 support I explained before, you can easily forget about stacking or pulling because it is really hard to remember all.
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@madifuho6688the hard part of dota is using ur brain tbh
@@frosten5746 DOTA sounds like it's more my speed than League even though I played League for a few years (downloading DOTA now).
However, I disagree with the general statement "learning how to hit a skill is much easier than learning all macro mechanics in DOTA".
At least for someone like me, building habits to the maximize use of the macro mechanics you've described in DOTA sounds a lot easier because you can research, analyze games, and then take a systematic approach to help you form the habits.
But the micro mechanics in League, particularly the skill shots seem to only be something you can learn by baptism of fire because there's no reliable way to practice and there's virtually no way to transfer knowledge or skill from one player to another.
@@xitaris5981 its very much individual, as for me learning skillshots took about 40 hours.
Who is also here because Riot did a thing? :D
Trying to switch to Dota because riot making league consistently more frustrating to play
Vanguard.
i love that "but you don't care." You're damn right sir! love the guide!
Here because of forced vanguard dl
I am only guardian 4 ( 2nd lowest rank), but however this is some tactics I often use, using some of the basic mechanics of Dota 2 (fret not, this is not coming from me. Rawdota-Henry, DATOHLEONG, and Gameleap taught me this. and also my English is self-taught, pls don't make fun of me
ive played league for two years i saw dota 2,s cool graphics and abilities and wanted to play this guide helped
I have played dota since 2015. I played I for 3 years straight and than switched to league. 6 years later I’m starting to get the itch to come back
I am a league player who's been thinking of migrating to Dota or at least playing both for a change of pace, it feels very complex but then when i started league i would do weird shit like playing tank Draven and not warding anything at all.
True, im an Kha OTP but since the new Dota Anime on Netflix i was kinda curious to try Dota 2 again but then as a Serious try and not meme 1 game "That game is trash go back to League"
"if you care about anything i told you not to care about.... i have guides for that!" LMAO i love you and this guide is great
Been playing dota since 2013 but just found out that u can transfer tower agro to teammate, wtf
Haha u not alone 😂😂
@@ingthearith7367 I too just found that you agro creeps....me legend4 ... 5 years experience XD ....feel so embarrased now...
Yeah I just learned it a months ago, that's why I'm wondering why pros does not get hit by the towers in tournaments haha
alright im coming from smite high end ranked grinder but that community is going no where fast so i branched out thank you for the guide
Also you need to count how many times he said "You don't care" in order to play the game
The way you pronounce "Moba" makes it sound like "Mobile", so I thought you were passive aggressive against LoL when you said "Whether you tried other mobile games like League of Legends"
Also, keep up the good work, we need new blood in the Dota Community
Glad to see there's already toxicity even in a video about trying to encourage new players to check out the game, nice job guys, you completely convinced me that i should change my mind about trying out the game, thanks ^^b
@@asdfawfawefwafwfwefwfawfds1811 Hahaha, oh god. Are you serious dude? I come from league, a game just as worse as Dota when it comes to in-game toxicity, that shit is a stroll in the park for me and its something i can understand because people are competitive by nature. What's putting me off is people like you who constantly bash people that come from other games just to feed your superiority complex, a behavior that I've only ever seen in the Dota community. So yeah, congratulations, you've successfully separated the chaff from the grain and proved I'm not "strong" enough for Dota. Good luck with your constantly declining player base.
@@markcastillo2622 calm down lmao
@@annon658 Already am.
@@markcastillo2622 oh man i can assure you i've seen some gatekeeping from other games, even league players i see them gatekeep
He said "YOU DON'T CARE" plenty of times more than I can count.
I'm sitting here like "really? How/why does that work?" then hear "you don't care" and get deflated.
one third of the video is "you don't care" and i love it
I think it would’ve been useful to discuss leveling up your skills and talents
One factor in dota 2 is harder than league is visions and neutral camps. Visions in dota 2 is very fatal where you need to think a good placement and where as neutrals can shit on you
I am starting Dota2 after playing league for 3 years.
One main thing I learned from this vid is that I should not care!
Lemme send this to my LOL friends
Ahh, just the right video for league players who want to graduate from the kiddy pool 😂
As a jungle main in league of legends this video hurt.
Playing Invo first time
Me: "AAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHH"
I played invo as my first online game😂
Play invoker for the 40th time
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHH
Play meepo next
@@anishshrestha8146 coming from SC2, i can handle micro
A wise man once said "there is no such thing as an average invoker player there is only trash and Godly" average invo players are considered trash, invoker can only be used effectively if you memorized all the spells and use it as fast as possible and as effectively as possible in every situation
I want to start playing but there is so much to learn
played vainglory
sad that it died
hope this one becomes my next fav moba game
I watched this vid. Then watched it again. Then got a buddy that knows the game slightly better then me. Played 2 games. Somehow won, Quit dota
There is a very good tutorial at the arcade section
Just the title was enough for me to give it a like
Finally I can stop suffering by playing League and start suffering in Dota 2!
Dota is less of a solo game more of a the best combo wins
omg i LOVE the "you don't care" hehe... thanks for the vid :-)
Thanks for the explanation. This made me realise how much I dont care about that
I finally understand how to play DOTA 2, just don't care that's all you should know.
2:17 On league, technically, you can use any champion for any role. There are crazy people out there that use a champion on a role they're not designed to be.
3:30 Another misconception, you are not forced to build a full item at the start. There are some "component items" that provides a weaker version of the passive it's "parent item" have. So sometimes it's alright to have a few component items for a while.
6:40 I don't think that needed explanation. Every game does that. Also that inventory. I kinda cringe at players who buy the same items twice on league, so can't say I like what I saw
Yeah, nice game Ice Frog(this is sarcasm btw). This isn't my opinion as a league player, but as a gamer in general.
3:30 Yes, but way to misrepresent the point. You don't go out with 6 slots filled in LoL at the start of a match, you do in Dota.
I just wanted to ask why my enemy on lane is always ahead on level than me, why was that
5:05 What I learned so far
"I don't care" :D
But, you don’t care. Lol, I love this! Thank you so much for giving me the confidence to try this game again. Great video! Got my sub!
For new players, all the roles like carry or support is useless? either 5 carries or 5 supports can stomp a game.
Nahh he meant the offlane, mid lane, hard carry, soft supp and hard supp.
But you still need 3 cores and 2 supps.
Datohleong be like: This thing can do this..that thing can do that...BUT YOU DON'T CARE😑
Bro i am 14 and have been playing since 2011 my biggest tip is just to start playing with bots and do the tutorials it will help allot
Amazing guide just got my first win 🏆
I'm not even good at league still I'm here burning my last 3 brain cells to learn this game😭
You want someone to coach you? I have 7000+ hours of in game exp. I still learn something new every now and then.
Good luck with the learning and i hope you find dota 2 enjoyable once you get the hang of it! :))
Most DotA players I know suck at League too, it's okay. DotA gets too much credit for being complex, but it really isn't. There's just a few extra things you need to keep in mind.
@@antemedon Like how to counter their techies with adequate positioning and outplays, magic damage resist auras and bkb, not pushing towers straight on but at an angle, strategic ward placement and sentries and when to get rid of those mines at secret at the best time. This is for 1 hero, not counting their team or your team much and the fact that all of that isn't free. It takes time and money.
I think your statement isn't true for these reasons,
but if you take small bites,
you can eat up all the information.
And yes it's true I'm dogshit at LoL.
@@klemenvidmar6307 @Klemen Vidmar see, most DotA players haven't played League long enough to even care to comprehend how similar both games are. I'm a veteran DotA 1 player who switched to league later, so I know how legit my assumptions are. We have teemo who's pretty similar to techies, so all that applies here too. Towers in DotA are dogshit. They're slow af and extremely easy to kill. You can't solo a turret in League because their defences skyrocket when minions aren't around. We have wards too, and wards to counter wards. 50% of every marksman's role in League is about positioning because they always get targetted first. DotA matches are pure chaos because every hero is trying to outplay every other hero. League has synergy. The only real differences in league and DotA are the elevation advantages, the ability to remove trees for strategic movement, denying creeps, the secret shop and a courier. League relies on teamwork and balanced out teams way more than DotA. League is also far more flexible because you can decide to play a physical damage champ as an ability damage one, or a tank as a nuker ane get away with it, DotA champs progress in a far more linear way. Agility heroes are the only ones who usually build attack speed, strength heroes are usually the only ones with a lot of health, etc etc.
There are videos that explain the simplest 5 tips in half an hour, just rambling and making you frustrated. You took very essential tips, put them in 12 minutes, and somehow made it feel like 1 minute. I learned so much, and I honestly didn't understand where time went. Great job, mate, and thank you for all the information!
it doesnt feel like 1 minute
@@saramorin4792 agreed. It's a really dense video, for better and worse. lol
Dude go get some essential tips
fact: more dota 2 players watched this than actual players who want to learn the game.
Ahahaha, true
but we dont care
You just wanna learn something new and take advantages of it ingame.
@@jashtylouisecerbo8216 but most if not all decent dota 2 players know this, but yeah there are some knowledge to be picked up.
@@stixsenpai5247 yeah pretty much. I'm just sad cause I cant play atm. I have no PC and it's still quarantine in my place.
Me: played dota 2 for 7 years,
Also me: interesting.
Even true masters need to practice
This is so relatable
@@necronlord8013 true herald master with 7 years of experience. True story
@@lolwhatever7307 you have the same problem as mine... But still the important thing, this game make you swear better than anyone else.. lol
2006 .... here
For anyone stumbling upon this vid now. Dota 2 now has a much better tutorial for new users that actually teaches you how to play the game. The video does clear up a lot of things though and is a very good source of information
Wow! I was wondering whether to start playing DotA or LOL now I've made up my mind. I really love the depth, intensity and complexity of the game mechanics.
GL
dont forget to mute annoying nerd
GLHF. and like what has been said above, don't forget to mute people. Like seriously, just mute them if your teammates get annoying.
Trashtalk is part of dota since ancient times. So dont mute!🤣
AWWWW BUT DONT MUTE ME THOUGH!! I WILL ALWAYS BE SAYING HI TO YOU!!! CYKA BLYAT!!!!
GLHF
datohleong: there's zero jungle role
sea players: hold my tango
typical sea server 😂
Sea players share tangos?
He means no standard jungle hero bro so we sea players can still play afk
more like hand ur tango XD
More like: "give me tango"
Dota2 "You can't Pay to win" but you can pay to lose.
yea. new WR skinn made her more standout
Not Lord Gols no... he meant the dota 2 tournament scandals. like 322
@@milk-pk4xk Probably, but you can also pay for cosmetics that make something far more noticeable than they originally are, like Mirana's infamous sperm arrow.
@@RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg Nah, only issue with her cosmetic was that you couldnt tell if she used windrun.
@@Ramk0core didnt play dota 2 before and was just downloading it but excuse me did u just say SPERM ARROW?
There are some important aspects that has to be taught to league players.
The most important thing that isn't taught in many guides is healing.
In league, if you get low, you have a 8 second recall and you spend the next 30 seconds walking back to lane. Doing so in league will not incur any penalties if one crashes the creep wave under the opponents tower to reset the wave.
However, in dota, there is a courier system that enables people to ship regen items like salves, mangos, clarities and tangos. Therefore in most scenarios during the laning phase, dota heroes do not need to go back to base in most cases.
But league players are bound by the mentality that if one needs to heal, one has to go back to base. This mentality screws up the play style and makes league players look like complete bots when they start dota.
The next important thing that isn't taught to league players is the concept of dying.
There is a large stigma to dying for league players. If you die, your opponent gains 300 gold, gains a free wave 120 gold and denies your wave (120 gold for you), making one death worth roughly 500 gold and lots of xp, enabling a lane to snowball out of hand.
However, in dota, dying is not all that bad except for the pos 1 and pos 2. Supports can go super aggressive so as to draw pressure from the opponent so as to let their carries farm safely. The penalty of death is not as huge as it is in league as long as the pos 3-5s can waste their opponent's time.
League players enter this game playing very safe, believing that their lives are very precious and blaming any other people with a high death count that is drawing pressure. This safe play means that league players end up doing nothing for the team.
The last important thing that is not taught to league players are the roles. In league, roles are simple, top lane, you play tank, jungle, you play ganker, all you have to do is to outplay your opponent and stomp your lane to win.
But in dota, different positions have different game plans. It's not just about stomping your opponent in lane. But this concept is never explained to league players.
League players end up playing offlane safely so that they can scale like what they do in league. League players play support by harassing opponent in lane like what they do in league and end up soaking xp without pulling/stacking. League players end up joining in lots of fights playing safe lane carry because that is what they do in league.
League players are essentially screwed when they play dota because they play dota like they play league. Most guides just ignore the basics of basics simply because they think it's so self-explanatory. No it isn't - especially for players that have developed habits from other games.
Underrated comment. I play many type of moba game and some game need different mental play.
Can't agree more
Another one is that rax's don't respawn, a small one, but it'll definitely throw league players off at first, also that "super" creeps give less gold (and i think less xp? I'm newly returning so idk what's changed in it's entirety)
"There's a large stigma to dying" LMAO League is full of feeders.
Don't know anything about Dota but it seem like very fun since you can play however and whatever you want.
I actually just downloaded Dota 2. Have never tried this or Dota before but I just heard how complicated this was compared to LoL. After watching ur vid, still looks insanely complex, but really appreciate you making this and highlighting the things you do and don’t need to focus on as a beginner. Nice job man !
Him: Pick a low complexity hero
Also him: *Demos invoker*
Yeah, but you dont care
man i actually remember when invoker hes ult didnt have a cooldown when i was a brat i watch who's elder to me playing dota 2 when they play invo i always look to there finger doing combo in clash
No one:
DATOHLEONG: Yea, that's cool. But you don't care.
😂😂😂
Funny but he dont care
I like how simple you made the game sound lol, the whole "you don't care" just takes away all the nerves i had before downloading the game. I played Dota back in the day then onto to League for the past 10 yrs. Thought i would suck trying out Dota 2 since i found Dota mechanics difficult but after watching this, I really don't care whether i suck or not, just gonna jump in and see what happens.
How is your current dota 2 experience?
If you don't mind me asking...
This is the comment I agreed the most
ikr ... "This that this that ... You don't care!" :) Very good video though .
How did it go ? still playing?
Great experience so far, I found a group of friends to play with every weekend. Can't say i'm really good at the game but I am having fun
I enjoy the "Everyone is OP so its ok" balance philosophy. LoL has been terrible for years from reverse powercreep + playing favorites + overtuned new champs
How can they sell new champs if they're not OP?
@@burnsyy9119 New content will sell. LoL didn't have that problem before CertainlyT
As a league player my head almost exploded from the amount of complexity. I can see similarities between the games like some of those runes being like red and blue buff but the whole high ground thing, being able to kill your own creeps, and a hidden shop outside of base blew my mind
right?? its insane
Then you have aghanim item, which basically give your hero 2 new skills
Oh wait did i mention about "talent tree", now you have another 6 options to customize your hero
@@bacphan7582 GOD i see why Dota players come to LOL for relax
@@ayobruce8211 I've been playind dota for years and picked up league 2 years ago cause some new friends play that over Dota. I can definitely say that that macro side is much easier on league. However the jukes are completely different for each game imo. Also instant turn rate was cancer to me in lol when I started. I think my biggest complaint for lol coming from Dota is how insane the scaling is and how extremely one sided some matches can be to the point of you basically being obsolete in lane if the kill you once. I'm curious to here (if you're a league player) what your biggest complaint would be for Dota 2. If there was one thing i would bring to league though it would be the ability to pump fake your spells with your stop key (ones with animations at least not instant ones like leblancs leap skill or whatever it is XD)
As someone who recently learned Hearts of Iron 4, this game is as simple as a wrecked tiger barrel.
The whole game - “you don’t care”.
I CARE TOO MUCH *feeds into highground*
@@h00db01i “You underestimate my power”
I played dota 2 for years on SEA server, now i know how to curse in different languages.
lol
2k: Wait you can contest objectives? I thought Roshan is only if you run out of ideas at 40 mins.
Lmao
Funny, true and sad at the same time
I always forgot i can take rosh on 20 mins as a Tb
Nowadays 2k players got some brain cells but some got waaaaay to many brain cells and decided to rosh when it's only 15 mins in
You can actually Rosh at 13 min with Ursa
the funny thing about this is, every mechanics you covered could instantly change in one update ahahahha
That is why he said "YOU DON'T CARE" hahaha.
Yeah in every major update anually
most of the mechanics he's explained have been around since dota mod, I'd say they're all pretty basic concepts. sure some things might change a little but most of it is pretty core concepts.
@@tonkahanah5890 every major patch feels like a new game to play
TONKAHANAH the single thing that didn't change for 8 years is damage types (since they deleted mixed damage), but other mechanics....
how to enjoy learning dota:
step 1 mute teammates voice and chat
This is wrong. Most ppl can not communicate because they don’t know how to effectively communicate with teammates. I won so many games just because I keep telling my team what is my next step, ask core when they feel comfortable engaging, and telling people where could be a good place to play. Toxicity drops a lot if you can make reasonable proposals to get other people on board with your strategy.
Same
@@davidnnn6986 in herald-crusader rank, muting your teammates is a necessity otherwise you'll lose your sanity.
TRUE
@@davidnnn6986 I have no idea which games have you been playing - but in my DotA games, noone listens to a word said - with that said, 99% of the chat is something totally unecessary, if not negative and toxic - When I started playing with my chat mutted, the quality of my games rose up to about 250-350% percent. I was literally playing with the same toxic people, but since I wasn't listening to their whinning it was so much easier for me to concentrate and know what to do next.
context: you dont care
who agrees this is better than dota's beginner sniper tutorial :/
But hey at least it will give you his cape
its been updated now but i do agree, that tutorial was really bad.
Random Person: "I wanna play Dota 2"
*Watches video
Random Person: "I'll play LOL and ML instead"
What's ML???
The more simpler "Heroes of the Storm"
Literally no items...
@@MrHellboy112 trash mobile game "mobile legends"
I play ML and DOTA, ez 😂
@@dayoolyngdoh5453 same, I play ML after a 3 game losing streak in DotA to feel better about myself.
This game is so convoluted. How could they think to not make a functional new player experience? Or competent video series at least? This video truly was the best starter guide for newbies.
Purge has the best in depth guide
Cause dota was: Play against bots with bots for hundreds of hours. Play against bots with humans for a couple hundreds of hours more. Que game vs other humans.
Worst than that, dota 2 has the WORST matchmaking in the world. I've only played like 5 matches and I was queued with people who plays the game since the day they were born
@@joaopassos3625 so basically 8 year olds?
@@joaopassos3625 its not the matchmaking thats the problem, its the lack of new players thats the problem
I just started playing the game. My first 2 heroes were support.. 2 dragon head thing and the litch both were very interesting.. I'm honestly surprising the depth of litch abilities after 1 match I found he's like super buffer with an op sheild ability
That two head man is Ogre so good
@@waduheck7860 he said dragon, si probably jakiro
@@parkjinggoy152 oh yes my bad
@@waduheck7860 LOL
My first hero was also double dragon, you can also try summon golem thing and summon death ward thing
Its all fun and games till you see a "ranked match" button
Fun now, regret later
And u see a guardian rank lmao
But you dont care. Hahaha
Lol
Wild rift is a lot of fun
I play PA hard support, I don’t care
Nani?!
instant low priority
I play anti mage hard support , I don't care 😂😂
REPORTED!!!
Spec hard support, ult and then give guardian greaves, pipe during ganks.
I miss the Dota 1 days where courier killed will drop the item. 😂
it was when my grandpa plays dota, very old patch of dota 1 😂.
Wow, that would have been super broken.
@@hkhatri12 even lifestealer back then got unlimited bkb at max level ult 😂 and QWE skills are all passive. super broken 😂😂😂
I miss the time you could dragon ppl with the curir 😂
@@dorianbrzovic4512 ahaha this was funny too. Make it invunerable and Dagon the last hit. 🤣
Im a league of legends player and i just started playing dota 2days ago, thought this game was gonna be more like league but no 💀. It is very hard to learn, but trying to learn the game is what's fun about it. I like playing viper now, he looks very cool, and can carry :Dd hope i get to learn this game more. Thanks for the vid man :))
Viper looks cool, but invoker looks cooler 😎
Cancer viper. Pusseh hero
just enjoy the game. everyone is carry at some point in the beginners game. as you play alot in unranked you will be matched by more experience (as well as trashtalkers) that will make you analyze the mechanics of the game more.
GLHF / GGWP.
[as of the moment, i enjoy playing "Drow Ranger", "Earthshaker", & "Phantom Lancer" especially in mid-game ganking]
Returned to dota a few months ago after 9 yrs of not playing (just watching vids). Only hero I can play properly now is Viper coz he's so simple
Dota is so much fun if you have a friend who you want to catch up to. I started playing cause my friends invited me. It was honestly so much fun to learn, whenever i figured out a new mechanics id try to get it down as quickly as possible. Sadly now if i play dota it takes too much of my time so i just chill playing leauge and valorant.
The patience taken to make this video is actually inspiring I tried to get my friends to play dota and it was always challenging yet fun next time I'll just share this video lol
new drinking game:
get a shot of water (stay hydrated bois) everytime datohleaong says U DONT CARE
Note: If you play in the SEA server, this guide does not apply.
only in low rank tho. once you get to the top this kind of players are rare.
below 6k MMR, yes.
This is the most sea. In sea you don't care
True
Yep, In SEA take Wk or LC and go jungle.
I'm here to quit league and hopefully find a better moba. I'm definitely a little less confused about the game after watching this video, so thanks!
Edit: I've actually played the game now and holy moly! It is both way more confusing and way more fun than league! I totally see what you mean with every character is overpowered! I played Warlock two games... I just oneshot their entire team??? Like what!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The video showed me how complicated this game is, and it helped me make up my mind to just stay in league
But you can play both
I was addicted to LoL and managed to quit on March this year (2020). To be honest , Dota 2 is way too complicated compared to LoL which I just found out the mechanics i never knew before such as creeps pulling, camps stacking, and many more. And these things made this game more versatile and creative. And thank god, within these mechanics, they helped me to get through Legend 3 recently and I recommend for LoL players to try out this game for once.
wtf u got legend 3 im still stuck at crusador 4
Yup true. I played DoTA for about 6 years, and I tried playing LoL for new experience. LoL is more like Mobile Legend, you need to purchase champions to play them. New champions are too OP and the game is not balanced at all. DoTA is different thou, all heroes are free, u can just try using them in practice or lobby and get to know them better. DoTA is quite difficult at first, but after hours of playing and seeing different style of play, u can become better.
@J Nc its sdage bro u need to givbe me a tear atleast
@@lineaspera_1 So true!!!
For me, LOL = Mobile Legends and DotA 2 = Vain Glory (mobile version).
And btw I hate ML fck ml and fck mobile gaming. I didnot meant that seriously, some are good tho.
Damn March to September and uve already reached legend 3 man
There are core hero and support hero
Sea servers: I don't care
I feel this in spiritual level
support hero play core hard carry 🤣🤣🤣
Support juggernaut, support PA 😆
I know how to support carry but not pure support..
Настолько прекрасно описал минимальные знания о доте. Я в шоке, сколько нужно знать новичку. Я это уже прошел, но до сих пор дота сложная и поэтому интересная игра. Спасибо за твои видео.
Lol from dota I went to LoL the back to Dota then Back to LoL
Love them both but Dota is closer to home
Razor main
Also all heroes are an Uno Reverse Card
And Good luck on playing Invoker
I would have added to the "every hero is op" part that every hero also has weaknesses, and items can patch those weaknesses to make heroes more powerful that goes beyond just giving damage or tank.
Every hero is op once you smurf hehe
cm is the only one that is balanced
He did say that, just in different words.
At least that's how I understood it as I'm listening to this video and downloading DOTA for the first time at the same time
You're on SEA Server
Actually you don't care. Everyone one there doesn't care. Meta heroes? Thry don't care. Wards? They don't care. Winning the game? They don't care
As a experienced LOL player that never tried D2, I'm thinking now how LOL looks like a simple game compared with this!
my brain is too smooth for this. Also Im around 8 years into league and I never learned (and still dont care to learn) jungle
smooth
Same lmao
1. Install game
2. Open video
3. Follow 6 minutes
4. Close video
5. Uninstall game
That's exactly what I did :)
I have grown up with lol but i will quit because i wan't real esport and i have my own laptop
Friendship ended with lol dota 2 is now my new best friend
I played dota for 4000 hours, and today I learnt that sniper auto is instant. Honestly, I don’t care, I love dota
Gyro attack is instant too
Well it's not instant, it just has a very quick projectile speed. It's nearly instant.
True to that but its mostly the case with Sniper since he has a bigger range
Lol played sniper multiple times and only now thought about it
Isnt instant, has 3000 projectile speed. Which is really really fast
7:51
datohleong: "it is always advantageous on the high ground"
me: obi wan was right
What? I don't understand
Always appreciate Star Wars reference
Highground advantage in combat was known in ancient times bro, like long before JESUS was even born
@@NoOne4k Okay but a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, a bearded monk with a laser sword cut of a whiney boys legs and yelled he loved him, all while standing a little bit higher on a mound of dirt than him.
As a league player..
My brain hurt.
Lol I started installing DOTA 2 but I cancelled the install after watching the video. It's not a bad video, but my god, the game is just way too complex for me to put time into... This is why I enjoyed HOTS more.
tldr : "just try from the simple things, but you don't care"
me: i want to learn to play dota
datohleong: you dont care
The summary could be more detail. There is an order to the objectives: safe lane tier 1, take enemy jungle, ward it, take mid tier 1, pressure safelane t2, take smart fights and set up for rosh, take rosh, use aegis to take enemy triangle, squeeze enemy off entire map, lock them in base, use aegis to hit hg, wait a bit, get 2nd aegis, win game.
The video in a nutshell: "But you don't care." 😅
I think the most important thing for new players is to play with bots, increasing their difficulty from passive to unfair. You also can do it with team of other human beings.
And learn a little bit about settings, so you can adjust them to your personal preferences. Then watch guides about heroes and some streams (to learn how game will go with actual players), read items descriptions and try it in private lobby. Then you're good to go play actual pubs and not completely ruin your good mood because of toxic teammates screaming at your mistakes.
Anyways, this is just my perspective. Datohleong did a great job.
Him:
Playing the game 10%
Explaining 30%
"You don't care" 60%
Take a shot everytime he said "you dont care"
Wtf vro you tryin to kill me or somethin?
10:01
New players: umm o okk (understands nothing)😂😂
Me in a nutshell