A tip about the subsoiler: there is a mod, the ITS-Lemken-Gigant that is an official mod that you can download from within the game, that acts as a carrier system for two 4m implements, effectively giving you 8m of working width. So what you can do is attach two of the Kuhn subsoilers to the back of it and essentially have a plow that is 8m wide. It also reaches straight across instead of diagonally which makes plowing square fields much faster by eliminating extra passes for headlands. There is another mod that is basically the Lemken version of the Kuhn subsoiler that is meant for the carrier system, but the Lemken version requires 200hp for each tool whereas the Kuhn version only requires 130, in addition to the Kuhn version giving a 7mph working speed where the Lemken only gives you 6. However, there are a few caveats to using the Kuhn version. Firstly, the Gigant system doesn't work with hired workers, no matter what brand of subsoiler you use. They will make one or two passes, then end up turning around on ground they've already done and stop. Secondly, with the Kuhn equipment you cant fold the Lemken due to the structure of the frame on the Kuhn however you can fold it with the Lemken. Since you can't fold the Gigant with the Kuhn tools attached you also can't detach it from the tractor without the tongue of the Gigant going up in the air about 5 feet. It also requires a pretty powerful tractor, around 300hp. I've been pulling it with a Challenger MT700E with no problems. So, it's not the most polished or convenient method of plowing but when it comes to efficiency in the field there's nothing better. You should give it a try on a larger map. As for the all-in-one system, to me their ideal use is in the early game, but used separately. The cultivator and seeder only require about 100 horsepower by themselves, which means both the default New Holland and Case tractors can run them easily, although the Case can't run the seeder because it lacks a front 3-point hitch. And I would bet just about any medium sized tractor, say the Same Fortis for example, could run both the cultivator and the seeder at the same time with no problem. Then every third harvest you run the subsoiler by itself like any other plow.
By chance stumbled upon this review - Haven't really been into the Farming Sims, but I now subbed, and have begun watching your playthroughs of this. Might be the "casual fun" game I'm looking for. Anyway, thanks! :-)
Up til now I've been using the Lemken 4m plow+cultivator, which calls for 300-350hp, the 3m set is around 200-250hp. So this new Kuhn deal is significant that I can do the plow+cultivator on a 250hp tractor - I find a 250hp tractor is adequate for most work on a small farm, and 4m equipment good for the UK map country lanes and gates. So with a small tractor I might not be able to handle all 3 jobs simultaneously (especially considering some of the hills on CPF) - but I can easily manage 2, with power to spare, and I don't need to plow every time. However, something I noticed with the plow/cultivator set up, there appears to be a helper bug in that, the helper stops the nose of the tractor on the field edge, then lines up the equipment for the return trip at the point the equipment stopped - so you end up with a tractor length of unworked field, that you need to manually go over to square off the work.
Yup. you would have to fix it manually or just run the "rig" yourself. Good point about the country lanes - its tight back there. I feel like 250 might be a little low for this setup. 185 was not enough for sure, but 250 could do it with some slowdowns.
The way I have been using the merger is to keep it set to dump out one of the sides. Run up the field, and then turn around and set the merger to dump the next pass on top of the pervious one. This way you get an 18 meter windrow out of which is larger than the Lely.
I have finally gotten FS17 for my Xbox one and I love it. You're videos are amazing playing it on a 42 inch 4K tv makes it look like I could reach out and touch everything.
Great video. I'd already bought the dlc but don't have enough money on my current farm yet so it was good to see what you can get! I want that wind rower! :)
hello arthur. i just wanted to say that i realy enjoy your videos. they are actualy the videos who thought me how to play the game properly and who thought me what the machines do. i realy apreciate the new things you teached me. but what did caught my eye was that with the seeder setup, the middle cultivator on between the seeder and the subsoiler, you didnt turn that unit on. there is a button for it to turn on just like the seeder. and the last thing i noticed was that with the square balewrapper you also can wrap round grass bales. that being said, thank you for sacrificing your time to provide these usefull and entertaining videos. may god bless you and your kids. your family gives me a family feeling wich i havent felt in a long time. thank you and have an awesome and blessed day.
Matt Herbert actualy im not from the city, i just am no farmer. and with the teaching how to play the game properly part i meant that he teached me how to start a new farm the best way and how to tend the animals.
Thank you Roy! Yeah, I just found out that you can power that harrower. Oh well - its the price you pay when you need to get a video out on release day. Sometimes you find stuff out afterwords :). I didn't try the round bales, but I did say (I think I said) that I was pretty sure it did both. Anyway - I am so glad you enjoyed the video and am thankful to have you as part of the channel! Have a blessed day my friend.
Omg, I love that you tested the round wrapper on hay bales! It makes much more sense to buy that baler now! Regarding the wrapping unit if you grab a hay bale it changes it to grass before it wraps. Handy if you have hay hanging around and want to silage it. this video was excellent Arthur, and it's just a testament as what we always come to expect from your channel a very thorough open honest and down-to-earth review and is always extremely helpful. Thank you very much Art.
Hi Arthur : I found that both DC 401 and HR 4004 were cultivator, if you put them together working, they can plow(or plough). My question is that it can be displayed correctly in "MAP OVERVIEW - Soil composition",when they working together(the Needs plowing was not red), but in "MAP OVERVIEW - GROWTH" it's just displayed colour of the "Cultivated", why it didn't displayed the colour of "plowed"?
@Arthur Chapman In fact, I still did not understand, I published my question on the Steam, and I also use three pictures to explain my problem. If you have time, can you go and see?the link is here: steamcommunity.com/app/447020/discussions/0/135514507318240698/?tscn=1492325219 I really want to figure out this question, thank you.
i like the 4 part seeder, it seems like a good alternative on smaller farms, and for people that want to save time, maps with smaller fields like Old Streams after you make some money and can afford a high end tractor
The baler/wrapper could still be impractical if you deal in cows - cows need grass as a separate food item, so you'd need a forage wagon to pick up grass for them. Sheep not a problem as grass and/or hay is good for them - I'm still inclined to have separate baler and wrapper in order to allow flexibility. I'm also not sure about the cultivator that can seed grass and radish - the hopper is rather small (though I could use that front mounted seed hopper from the combo set??), I'd be more inclined to use the vaderstadt 6m width, cultivates and sows, and has an huge seed hopper (which could also be combined with the front mount hopper). Gonna get me one of them thar front mounted gizmos.
Where you would use the "Radish Cultivator" is where you are going to plant radishes for fertilizer, but like you said, the Vaderstat accomplishes the exact same thing. so there is no good reason to use it. I didn't think about that.
the big question is - can you feed cows grass bales instead of dumping cut grass using a collection wagon - If so, it would be easier to store the grass in bales. I need to test that in the new patch. You used to be able to feed the cows grass bales, but I don't know if they changed that.
Up to last week you could use bales or loose grass, and I agree that storage of bales is much easier/efficient than having loose lying around. Early on I tended to loose, but the only reason to not bale, is when you're using a modded hayloft/storage barn to hold things like grass, straw and hay - because they tend not to accept bales.
I used to use the weeder/radish sower, which would provide 2 levels of fertilizer when you cultivated that crop in - but 1.4 patch the weeders only work on growth stages 2 & 3 (of 4), so that device (pneumaticstar?) is, imo completely worthless, it only has a 300l hopper, and narrower working width to the vanilla weeder.
If this helps at all, you can use the Kuhn TF 1500 to increase the hopper size by 1500 - just a though, but yeah. That weeder/seeder is not worth it anymore.
Since you're doing 3 passes in one, at 6 mph, that's effectively 18mph if you had to do each step on its own. Sure, it would be great if it was larger than 4m, but it's perfect for hiring a worker, and follow up with a sprayer. I think I'll be buying one. The very first thing I did was get the square bale wrapper, bc that's the main reason I got this pack. I tried a modded one first, but it was laggy, so $15 to get rid of lag, lol.
AH! From a farming standpoint that makes sense. You don't really want to wrap hay unless you are trying to store it for a LONG time. Since it has low moisture it will never become silage, but wet grass on the otherhand, you do want to wrap because you want it to become silage.
Arthur you have to do it that way now anyway, you round bale and then you wrap them after , this way you bale and wrap and then use the other baler, but yes i di understand and agree as well... ok glad that works lol, do you have to replace the wrap like you did on the Krone?
Keep watching - if you bale hay (tedded grass) it won't wrap them so it knows to wrap grass but not hay. Much more functional. You do not have to reload these like you did the Krone. That would be cool if you could.
Great vid as always. Art, but I do have a bone to pick with you. I think you missed the point on the new baler/wrapper. If you make silage bales, and solely silage bales, it is a great time saving/equipment saving device. IF you wish to mix up your bales, you buy the normal round baler and a wrapper seperately. You get the diversity of being able to do all four bale types (grass, silage, hay, straw) with the minor niggle that you have to wrap seperately, should you want to. I'm no farmer, and I'm sure Kyle would know for sure, but even if the r/l model can turn off the wrapper, it makes sense in game to not be allowed to, otherwise it is totally OP. Maybe one for the mod community, eh?
Keep watching :) - at the end of the video I figure out that it actually does both, so that you can wrap some and not others. It won't wrap hay bales - the same should be true for the separate wrapper. I don't think you can wrap hay any more, no matter which device you use, so you don't need an on off switch. It automatically wraps grass and automatically doesn't wrap hay.
+Arthur Chapman One thing to keep in mind is while the round baler will not wrap a hay bale (made from dry grass windrow). The square baler wrapper, will magically convert a hay bale (made from dry grass windrow) to a grass bale, then wrap it and make a silage bale. IMHO that's a bug. I really like that round baler because it can do all three bale types in one machine, now I just need it to work with Courseplay. :-) And really, after the 1.4 update is their a point to making grass bales as all the feed mixers now need hay bales?
Your right totally. 1550, you can see your tractor struggling and spinning a hair. Takes a nice tractor to do this. It has its place for sure in the game still tho.
I came here to rewatch this video because I actually got the kuhn big bud n the platinum dlcs for myself as a new year gift cuz it was on sale I got all three for like 30-38 bucks n I’m glad I did it so far cuz now when I want to go back and play maps like American outback n who dat ranch n use big bud n when I’m doing smaller maps like old streams farms I can use the kuhn back
The Kuhn sprayer setup is 2800 l not 2700 :P 5+3=8 ;) And yes, the big Kuhn wrapper can do both round and square bales, which you probably know by now :) You can also apparently turn on the cultivator on that setup with "plow", cultivator and seeder, dunno what that will change however.
did you notice the animation at the end of the wrapping where you see it use a blade to cut it. and I want the dlc because I am on console because there is no guarantee that there will be a mod for a square bales wrapper
G-Day Arthur I don’t know whether you know it or not but a mod came out about 3 or 4 days ago that now lets you turn the round baler on and off From terry down under (Perth Western Australia)
The first set up that you used and said that in real life you would use the plough aswell, well just letting you no that that cultivater/ power harrowing will work the ground for you
Yeah - I also see a lot of farmers around here that don't bother with plowing ever. Some do, some don't. But a subsoiler will make a difference in how much ground is "worked" for you as it reaches much deeper. In the game though, there is no point to using that setup unless you are trying to get plowing and cultivating done in one pass.
Hey Chapman, I'm just starting on ps4 and love your channel. But one question. Why is your shop different than the one I have on ps4? Both I believe are goldcrest
Hi Arthur I suggest you go to the Kuhn website and read the information on the FBP 3135 Bale Pack. I have put the link to the webpage: www.kuhn.com/com_en/range/balers/round-baler-wrapper-combinations/fbp-3135-bale-pack.html
Enjoyed the video very will done will add to my game. I Would like you to do a review on FS 2016 Kleinhau Map this area was subject to prolonged intense fighting during ww2. There are signs all over the entire map, and give the author's history as well as the history of the area durning WW II. The farm is next to the Hürtgen Forest where a series of fierce battles was fought from 19 September 1944 to 10 February 1945 between American and German The Forrest has a real dark sinister feel to it, a very well done map with a lot of history built in to the map. With you style I thank it would make a great video.
Kleinhau Map v 1.1www.modland.net/farming-simulator-2017-mods/maps/kleinhau-map-v-1.1.html Just bought the DLC trying it out now on the Klwinhau map. enjoy
1 little thing you said twice during the video that you can not use grass to feed your cows that is wrong you still need to feed them grass. However I believe what you meant to say is that you can not use grass in your TMR mix to then feed to your cows you have to use hay (not grass), silage, and straw. Being able to use the grass in TMR was a bug in the game that they fixed in the last patch
Grass and hay are the same thing because they both are made out of grass. If you wrap a bale it's called a silage bale and if you don't wrap a bale it's called a hay bale
Incorrect, grass turned into a bale is a bale of grass. TEDDED grass turned into a bale is a hay bale. Hay is dried grass, so four types of bale: grass, silage, straw and hay.
LeiFlux is correct here - Grass and Hay are not the same - Hay is dried and grass is not. In real life, if you wrap a hay bale you will not get silage, but what they call "haylage", and it won't ferment properly because most of the moisture is gone. In game you may be able to wrap hay (though I think they changed it in the last patch) but it doesn't represent what happens in real life.
Yes and No - Of course the combo baler and Square bale wrapper were definitely NOT in the game, and I will say that after using some of the Kuhn Seeders on my Old Streams map, they work better than the pull behind seeders that are in the game it tight spaces -so while the equipment type is already in game, it works differently than the in game units, giving you some flexibility over what is in game. Is it ground breaking? No. But it does make a few things work differently which I like.
the baler wrapper combo will not bale grass bales then. hay stays hay, but grass is wrapped and turns to silage. so it will not bale grass bales.. And there is nothing wrong with wrapping straw for the sake of dry outdoor storage or Amonnia threatening them.. in game however it's useless
Haha - yup - this dude she is with is still married as far as I understand it. I try not to get angry about it because in the end, everyone knows whats going on, and most of my friends and family, (and her family too) find the whole situation disgusting, and she really has lost pretty much her entire support system, so in some ways I actually feel kinda bad for her.
MoruganKodi it doesn't really matter as the game has no exchange rate. In game if it was 20 dollars, it was also 20 euro, so here they are interchangeable. In real life there is a difference obviously, but in game it makes no difference what it's set to. The number remains the same.
You should be able to find a free mod square bale wrapper at this point. I do still use a lot more equipment from this pack though, because I like the small farms.
I am very mad that giants only made the dlc for ps4 and not pc I have fs17 for pc and I am not happy that giants didn't put the dlc for pc they only did it for the fucking ps4 it's a thumbs down for me cos giants fucked up big time sorry giants but you guys let me down big time here you really did I hope all you ps4 guys are fucking happy with your selfs its just not fare it really isn't
What are you talking about? This review is the PC version. I don't have a PS4. Here is the link to purchase it for the PC - www.farming-simulator.com/dlc-detail.php?lang=en&country=us&dlc_id=fs17kuhn
A tip about the subsoiler: there is a mod, the ITS-Lemken-Gigant that is an official mod that you can download from within the game, that acts as a carrier system for two 4m implements, effectively giving you 8m of working width. So what you can do is attach two of the Kuhn subsoilers to the back of it and essentially have a plow that is 8m wide. It also reaches straight across instead of diagonally which makes plowing square fields much faster by eliminating extra passes for headlands. There is another mod that is basically the Lemken version of the Kuhn subsoiler that is meant for the carrier system, but the Lemken version requires 200hp for each tool whereas the Kuhn version only requires 130, in addition to the Kuhn version giving a 7mph working speed where the Lemken only gives you 6.
However, there are a few caveats to using the Kuhn version. Firstly, the Gigant system doesn't work with hired workers, no matter what brand of subsoiler you use. They will make one or two passes, then end up turning around on ground they've already done and stop. Secondly, with the Kuhn equipment you cant fold the Lemken due to the structure of the frame on the Kuhn however you can fold it with the Lemken. Since you can't fold the Gigant with the Kuhn tools attached you also can't detach it from the tractor without the tongue of the Gigant going up in the air about 5 feet. It also requires a pretty powerful tractor, around 300hp. I've been pulling it with a Challenger MT700E with no problems. So, it's not the most polished or convenient method of plowing but when it comes to efficiency in the field there's nothing better. You should give it a try on a larger map.
As for the all-in-one system, to me their ideal use is in the early game, but used separately. The cultivator and seeder only require about 100 horsepower by themselves, which means both the default New Holland and Case tractors can run them easily, although the Case can't run the seeder because it lacks a front 3-point hitch. And I would bet just about any medium sized tractor, say the Same Fortis for example, could run both the cultivator and the seeder at the same time with no problem. Then every third harvest you run the subsoiler by itself like any other plow.
I like that the sprayers have fill gauges on the equipment though not sure if the stock ones do too.
Yes, the amazone orange sprayers do have a fill gage facing the cockpit, both the rear tank and the front aux tank.
By chance stumbled upon this review - Haven't really been into the Farming Sims, but I now subbed, and have begun watching your playthroughs of this. Might be the "casual fun" game I'm looking for. Anyway, thanks! :-)
I find it very relaxing - I like to play on my laptop while I watch TV. Kinda like a infusion of relaxation lol.
this is some good insight, bought the pack after seeing the video
Up til now I've been using the Lemken 4m plow+cultivator, which calls for 300-350hp, the 3m set is around 200-250hp. So this new Kuhn deal is significant that I can do the plow+cultivator on a 250hp tractor - I find a 250hp tractor is adequate for most work on a small farm, and 4m equipment good for the UK map country lanes and gates. So with a small tractor I might not be able to handle all 3 jobs simultaneously (especially considering some of the hills on CPF) - but I can easily manage 2, with power to spare, and I don't need to plow every time.
However, something I noticed with the plow/cultivator set up, there appears to be a helper bug in that, the helper stops the nose of the tractor on the field edge, then lines up the equipment for the return trip at the point the equipment stopped - so you end up with a tractor length of unworked field, that you need to manually go over to square off the work.
Yup. you would have to fix it manually or just run the "rig" yourself. Good point about the country lanes - its tight back there. I feel like 250 might be a little low for this setup. 185 was not enough for sure, but 250 could do it with some slowdowns.
The way I have been using the merger is to keep it set to dump out one of the sides. Run up the field, and then turn around and set the merger to dump the next pass on top of the pervious one. This way you get an 18 meter windrow out of which is larger than the Lely.
I love the fact that you can actually "merge" stuff with it. I think that this will definitely find a place on my farm
I have finally gotten FS17 for my Xbox one and I love it. You're videos are amazing playing it on a 42 inch 4K tv makes it look like I could reach out and touch everything.
TOTALLY - it gives the game so much more depth. My TV is only 32, but its only 2 feet from my fat face, so it feels the same ;)
Arthur Chapman I got the game yesterday it's so much fun I started playing it at 9 last night and next thing I know it's 4 in the morning
hehe - yup, way back when 15 came out I did the same dang thing. No sleep all weekend.
That is the hole point of the baler with bail wrapper, I just would do some small bails
Ethan White what's the whole point of your absolutely horrible spelling?
I knew someone would him me on that!! lol
Great video. I'd already bought the dlc but don't have enough money on my current farm yet so it was good to see what you can get! I want that wind rower! :)
Its a really nice windrower. Easy to use because of its size.
hello arthur. i just wanted to say that i realy enjoy your videos. they are actualy the videos who thought me how to play the game properly and who thought me what the machines do. i realy apreciate the new things you teached me. but what did caught my eye was that with the seeder setup, the middle cultivator on between the seeder and the subsoiler, you didnt turn that unit on. there is a button for it to turn on just like the seeder. and the last thing i noticed was that with the square balewrapper you also can wrap round grass bales. that being said, thank you for sacrificing your time to provide these usefull and entertaining videos. may god bless you and your kids. your family gives me a family feeling wich i havent felt in a long time. thank you and have an awesome and blessed day.
Roy Franco pretty obvious your from the city if he thought you how to play the game properly lol
Matt Herbert actualy im not from the city, i just am no farmer. and with the teaching how to play the game properly part i meant that he teached me how to start a new farm the best way and how to tend the animals.
Matt Herbert Why are you such a hater
I am from the city too :) But now I live in the country. Much nicer :)
Thank you Roy! Yeah, I just found out that you can power that harrower. Oh well - its the price you pay when you need to get a video out on release day. Sometimes you find stuff out afterwords :). I didn't try the round bales, but I did say (I think I said) that I was pretty sure it did both. Anyway - I am so glad you enjoyed the video and am thankful to have you as part of the channel! Have a blessed day my friend.
Omg, I love that you tested the round wrapper on hay bales! It makes much more sense to buy that baler now! Regarding the wrapping unit if you grab a hay bale it changes it to grass before it wraps. Handy if you have hay hanging around and want to silage it. this video was excellent Arthur, and it's just a testament as what we always come to expect from your channel a very thorough open honest and down-to-earth review and is always extremely helpful. Thank you very much Art.
Thank you Eustace - BTW I will be sure to give you a shout out in my next Old Streams video - you need more subs and hopefully I can get you more.
Arthur Chapman
Thank you so much Art! I appreciate that a great deal :)
Yes. A single load of 16 wrapped squared bales sells for almost 44K. Best effort for the money. And the quickest way to rise up the bank.
Just bought this pack and the Straw Harvest pack. Thanks for these videos! This should hold me over until FS19 gets released.
Glad to be of service. Great stuff.
Hi Arthur :
I found that both DC 401 and HR 4004 were cultivator, if you put them together working, they can plow(or plough).
My question is that it can be displayed correctly in "MAP OVERVIEW - Soil composition",when they working together(the Needs plowing was not red), but in "MAP OVERVIEW - GROWTH" it's just displayed colour of the "Cultivated", why it didn't displayed the colour of "plowed"?
Red = not plowed (may be cultivated or not), Brown = plowed but not cultivated, Blue = Plowed and Cultivated
thank you!
@Arthur Chapman In fact, I still did not understand, I published my question on the Steam, and I also use three pictures to explain my problem. If you have time, can you go and see?the link is here: steamcommunity.com/app/447020/discussions/0/135514507318240698/?tscn=1492325219
I really want to figure out this question, thank you.
i like the 4 part seeder, it seems like a good alternative on smaller farms, and for people that want to save time, maps with smaller fields like Old Streams after you make some money and can afford a high end tractor
Yeah - WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I WAS PLOWING ALL THE FIELDS IN OLD STREAMS :) - my nice little Deutz could have done it.
You want me to do the study on if it's worth it to plow, cultivate, seed at 4m as compared to other methods? ;)
I DO
The baler/wrapper could still be impractical if you deal in cows - cows need grass as a separate food item, so you'd need a forage wagon to pick up grass for them. Sheep not a problem as grass and/or hay is good for them - I'm still inclined to have separate baler and wrapper in order to allow flexibility.
I'm also not sure about the cultivator that can seed grass and radish - the hopper is rather small (though I could use that front mounted seed hopper from the combo set??), I'd be more inclined to use the vaderstadt 6m width, cultivates and sows, and has an huge seed hopper (which could also be combined with the front mount hopper). Gonna get me one of them thar front mounted gizmos.
Where you would use the "Radish Cultivator" is where you are going to plant radishes for fertilizer, but like you said, the Vaderstat accomplishes the exact same thing. so there is no good reason to use it. I didn't think about that.
the big question is - can you feed cows grass bales instead of dumping cut grass using a collection wagon - If so, it would be easier to store the grass in bales. I need to test that in the new patch. You used to be able to feed the cows grass bales, but I don't know if they changed that.
Up to last week you could use bales or loose grass, and I agree that storage of bales is much easier/efficient than having loose lying around. Early on I tended to loose, but the only reason to not bale, is when you're using a modded hayloft/storage barn to hold things like grass, straw and hay - because they tend not to accept bales.
I used to use the weeder/radish sower, which would provide 2 levels of fertilizer when you cultivated that crop in - but 1.4 patch the weeders only work on growth stages 2 & 3 (of 4), so that device (pneumaticstar?) is, imo completely worthless, it only has a 300l hopper, and narrower working width to the vanilla weeder.
If this helps at all, you can use the Kuhn TF 1500 to increase the hopper size by 1500 - just a though, but yeah. That weeder/seeder is not worth it anymore.
There is now a mod to turn to wrap on the baler on or off for grass bales.
Yes, yes there is :)
Since you're doing 3 passes in one, at 6 mph, that's effectively 18mph if you had to do each step on its own. Sure, it would be great if it was larger than 4m, but it's perfect for hiring a worker, and follow up with a sprayer. I think I'll be buying one. The very first thing I did was get the square bale wrapper, bc that's the main reason I got this pack. I tried a modded one first, but it was laggy, so $15 to get rid of lag, lol.
Also be sure to check out the Merger. Although its expensive, its really nice to be able to merge 6 rows of grass into one.
Arthur, I haven't tried it yet but with the round bailer I wonder if it will give you the option to not wrap it if you use the tedder first.
lol, I typed this while watching. funny you had the same idea. could have just deleted it but thought it was funny our brains were on the same wave.
awesome we were right.
hehe - Yeah - I wish I would have tested it out first but I wanted to get the video out on release day.
The round bale wrapper won't wrap tattered grass/hay or straw. Only grass.
Its actually does wrap hay. But it doesn't wrap straw.
Arthur Chapman. I should have clarified (on consoles) I can only wrap the grass bales.
AH! From a farming standpoint that makes sense. You don't really want to wrap hay unless you are trying to store it for a LONG time. Since it has low moisture it will never become silage, but wet grass on the otherhand, you do want to wrap because you want it to become silage.
nice to have the tutorials back , Il be on front row :)
Gonna start them this week - hopefully posted by next week (beginning next week)
Arthur you have to do it that way now anyway, you round bale and then you wrap them after , this way you bale and wrap and then use the other baler, but yes i di understand and agree as well... ok glad that works lol, do you have to replace the wrap like you did on the Krone?
Keep watching - if you bale hay (tedded grass) it won't wrap them so it knows to wrap grass but not hay. Much more functional. You do not have to reload these like you did the Krone. That would be cool if you could.
Great vid as always. Art, but I do have a bone to pick with you.
I think you missed the point on the new baler/wrapper. If you make silage bales, and solely silage bales, it is a great time saving/equipment saving device. IF you wish to mix up your bales, you buy the normal round baler and a wrapper seperately.
You get the diversity of being able to do all four bale types (grass, silage, hay, straw) with the minor niggle that you have to wrap seperately, should you want to.
I'm no farmer, and I'm sure Kyle would know for sure, but even if the r/l model can turn off the wrapper, it makes sense in game to not be allowed to, otherwise it is totally OP.
Maybe one for the mod community, eh?
Keep watching :) - at the end of the video I figure out that it actually does both, so that you can wrap some and not others. It won't wrap hay bales - the same should be true for the separate wrapper. I don't think you can wrap hay any more, no matter which device you use, so you don't need an on off switch. It automatically wraps grass and automatically doesn't wrap hay.
+Arthur Chapman One thing to keep in mind is while the round baler will not wrap a hay bale (made from dry grass windrow). The square baler wrapper, will magically convert a hay bale (made from dry grass windrow) to a grass bale, then wrap it and make a silage bale. IMHO that's a bug.
I really like that round baler because it can do all three bale types in one machine, now I just need it to work with Courseplay. :-) And really, after the 1.4 update is their a point to making grass bales as all the feed mixers now need hay bales?
Kentucky Farmer Yeah, the only reason to make grass bales it for silage, or to feed directly to your sheep or cows. Cows still do need raw grass
The reason to rap hay is to keep the rain from swamping and keeping it dry so you don't have to place in a barn
As long as its dry that would work well.
We have our arm full, so we rap our hay so it don't ruin m.... cows don't like moldy hay
hehe - I wouldn't either.
Bob Dole thanks you for doing this.
Your welcome Bob
The Kuhn Rower has an potential of 19.4 m as you could double the with and put two passes on one swoft
It has so much potential because you can run it back and forth and change directions. Such a cool device.
Your right totally. 1550, you can see your tractor struggling and spinning a hair. Takes a nice tractor to do this. It has its place for sure in the game still tho.
I agree - Especially of farms with tight roads and narrow passages. its easier than just plowing anyway.
great review Arthur, think I will be getting the DLC now.
Glad I could help Stew!
I came here to rewatch this video because I actually got the kuhn big bud n the platinum dlcs for myself as a new year gift cuz it was on sale I got all three for like 30-38 bucks n I’m glad I did it so far cuz now when I want to go back and play maps like American outback n who dat ranch n use big bud n when I’m doing smaller maps like old streams farms I can use the kuhn back
They are both really good DLCs because of all the awesome small and large equipment that they come with.
the cultivator at 15:00 isnt on
Ooops. Oh well. In game the cultiplow does the work anyway, but yeah, for realism's sake, ooooops
The Kuhn sprayer setup is 2800 l not 2700 :P 5+3=8 ;) And yes, the big Kuhn wrapper can do both round and square bales, which you probably know by now :) You can also apparently turn on the cultivator on that setup with "plow", cultivator and seeder, dunno what that will change however.
Oh! its a power cultivator! That must be why the call it a "harrower". interesting.
did you notice the animation at the end of the wrapping where you see it use a blade to cut it.
and I want the dlc because I am on console because there is no guarantee that there will be a mod for a square bales wrapper
True that- That cut animation is really cool. The old Krone baler/wrapper in 15 had that too.
G-Day Arthur
I don’t know whether you know it or not but a mod came out about 3 or 4 days ago that now lets you turn the round baler on and off
From terry down under (Perth Western Australia)
I saw that - When you say on or off, do you mean that it removes the wrapper from the back of the baler?
Hi Arthur
You can have the baler on so that it raps the Bals or you can have the baler off so that it is just a normal baler
You can do that without the mod. it allows you to turn the wrapper on and off.
The first set up that you used and said that in real life you would use the plough aswell, well just letting you no that that cultivater/ power harrowing will work the ground for you
Yeah - I also see a lot of farmers around here that don't bother with plowing ever. Some do, some don't. But a subsoiler will make a difference in how much ground is "worked" for you as it reaches much deeper. In the game though, there is no point to using that setup unless you are trying to get plowing and cultivating done in one pass.
Arthur Chapman yea I agree just thought I'd let u no since some people really like you to be realistic and liking your vids keep it up 👍👍
Perfect review as always, thank you.
My pleasure Amanda!
overall I love the dlc. as a solo player the combo seeder kit and combo baler are HUGE time savers.
Yeah Me too - I can't wait to integrate it into the game.
Question for you having never purchased Mods, once purchased you can not use them unless you have enough in game moneyto purchase them?
Yes, that is correct - the DLC gets you access to the content, but you still have to earn them in-game
Or you can cheat money in
Hey Chapman, I'm just starting on ps4 and love your channel. But one question. Why is your shop different than the one I have on ps4? Both I believe are goldcrest
The map shown in this video is the other default map, Sosnovka. You will have this map too as it comes as part of the game.
Before you lower the belts it will give you a option to change it
Yeah - did you see me find it after the first pass ;)
Hi Arthur I suggest you go to the Kuhn website and read the information on the FBP 3135 Bale Pack. I have put the link to the webpage: www.kuhn.com/com_en/range/balers/round-baler-wrapper-combinations/fbp-3135-bale-pack.html
Enjoyed the video very will done will add to my game. I Would like you to do a review on FS 2016 Kleinhau Map this area was subject to prolonged intense fighting during ww2. There are signs all over the entire map, and give the author's history as well as the history of the area durning WW II. The farm is next to the Hürtgen Forest where a series of fierce battles was fought from 19 September 1944 to 10 February 1945 between American and German The Forrest has a real dark sinister feel to it, a very well done map with a lot of history built in to the map. With you style I thank it would make a great video.
Cool Nick! Can you get me a link?
Kleinhau Map v 1.1www.modland.net/farming-simulator-2017-mods/maps/kleinhau-map-v-1.1.html Just bought the DLC trying it out now on the Klwinhau map. enjoy
New link now on modhub www.farming-simulator.com/mod.php?lang=en&country=us&mod_id=65286&title=fs2017
1 little thing you said twice during the video that you can not use grass to feed your cows that is wrong you still need to feed them grass. However I believe what you meant to say is that you can not use grass in your TMR mix to then feed to your cows you have to use hay (not grass), silage, and straw. Being able to use the grass in TMR was a bug in the game that they fixed in the last patch
Yup - that is what I meant. You can't mix grass into the the TMR - but you are correct, they still need cut grass.
Grass and hay are the same thing because they both are made out of grass. If you wrap a bale it's called a silage bale and if you don't wrap a bale it's called a hay bale
Matt Herbert but you would not wrap wet Gras and call it hay because hay is dried Gras
Incorrect, grass turned into a bale is a bale of grass. TEDDED grass turned into a bale is a hay bale.
Hay is dried grass, so four types of bale: grass, silage, straw and hay.
LeiFlux is correct here - Grass and Hay are not the same - Hay is dried and grass is not. In real life, if you wrap a hay bale you will not get silage, but what they call "haylage", and it won't ferment properly because most of the moisture is gone. In game you may be able to wrap hay (though I think they changed it in the last patch) but it doesn't represent what happens in real life.
LeiFlux07 yes I no as my old man is a contractor but what I'm saying is that u need grass to make hay or silage lol
Bale wrapper 10:28
I've always liked the square marshmallows
Especially in my lucky charms.
i don't really like the round marshmallows. they are to big and weird shaped
Anybidy know what map this is?
you can bail hay you don't need another one it just don't wrap hay
Yes, keep watching :)
To me me its the same stuff as everything else in game but its red?
Yes and No - Of course the combo baler and Square bale wrapper were definitely NOT in the game, and I will say that after using some of the Kuhn Seeders on my Old Streams map, they work better than the pull behind seeders that are in the game it tight spaces -so while the equipment type is already in game, it works differently than the in game units, giving you some flexibility over what is in game. Is it ground breaking? No. But it does make a few things work differently which I like.
is this the start of tutorial videos
yes, I have been setting up my test farm so that we can begin. Probably 1 or 2 more weeks as I am swamped with work right now.
8:25 it's 2800 units not 2700 units
Thank you
You can just use square bales now.
Just use square bales for what?
Feeding the animals and selling them. Silage now comes in square and round bales.
Epic Terrarian oh. Yeah - that is exactly what makes this dlc so valuable.
Yes. just wish there was...more.(stuff that helps big farms not not stuff I already have)
My great uncle has that bale wrapper
can you hire a worker with the combo baler Wrapper
Oh, I will try that - Dar - that would be good information for a review.
Hello, you need a mod. The mod is cold kuhn fb 31535 on and off
Yeah - I saw that in the mod hub. Don't forget I made this review months before that mod was available ;)
hey dude f1 shows the help pannel if ever you need to know a key
JACK1213 true that. It doesn't help with custom controllers though
Oh and in this case the issue was that the control only appears on the menu when the merger is raised
There's a mod for not wrapping
That is what I have heard. It wasn't available when I made this video though.
imagine a front cultivator
that would be nice - it would be hard on the tractor too.
There is a front cultivator mod
Im just going to have the big med with av baler on it, instead of buying the DLC.
big m*
Aye! But in real life the Big M does not operate a baler :)
the baler wrapper combo will not bale grass bales then. hay stays hay, but grass is wrapped and turns to silage. so it will not bale grass bales.. And there is nothing wrong with wrapping straw for the sake of dry outdoor storage or Amonnia threatening them.. in game however it's useless
Are you able to wrap the straw? Interesting. I will have to try that.
Arthur Chapman no, don't think so.
but in real life you can, and it has its uses:)
1500+1300=2700? 8:19
lol - thanks senpai
Arthur Chapman i'm sorry if i bothered you but i just get annoyed by those things for some reason
Not at all - A math wiz I am not... at all :)
What map?
The 2nd default map that comes with the game - Sosnovka
What’s the number for the discord
The number? I am not sure what you are asking
yes's
could you do a pigs tutorial please. thanks
I sure will
I wrap hay all the time...
in real life or in game?
Finally an american that says there not irish 😂
Not one bit, and I don't celebrate St. Patricks day either. I purposefully were other colors :)
That windrower is baaad
I love it. I love that you can move it from side to side to get 1 row from 6
I just brought it today
You enjoying it?
yes
Dude just buy a regular round Bailer and a bale wrapper
That is usually what I do, but it is nice being able to do it in one step.
Im Irish 😃
haha - my Ex was Irish.
Let me guss either Cork or Dublin
Dublin.
Yea Dubs can be anoying....very anoying
lol
wait your not married
Gabriel Sloan I was until my wife left me for someone else :(
Arthur Chapman he probably doesn't entertain 20k people online.. Downgrade
Haha - yup - this dude she is with is still married as far as I understand it. I try not to get angry about it because in the end, everyone knows whats going on, and most of my friends and family,
(and her family too) find the whole situation disgusting, and she really has lost pretty much her entire support system, so in some ways I actually feel kinda bad for her.
you still have your kid right and when did it happen
kids
you say "dollars" but your currency is set to euros.
MoruganKodi it doesn't really matter as the game has no exchange rate. In game if it was 20 dollars, it was also 20 euro, so here they are interchangeable. In real life there is a difference obviously, but in game it makes no difference what it's set to. The number remains the same.
For 20bucks this dlc not worth it for me...I like the sqaure bale wrapper..all the other equipment way to small for me
You should be able to find a free mod square bale wrapper at this point. I do still use a lot more equipment from this pack though, because I like the small farms.
I prefer more the bigger farms...thats why the big bud dlc perfect for mw
you can't wrap hay
Yes, if you watch the whole video you will see that I discover how it works.
I am very mad that giants only made the dlc for ps4 and not pc I have fs17 for pc and I am not happy that giants didn't put the dlc for pc they only did it for the fucking ps4 it's a thumbs down for me cos giants fucked up big time sorry giants but you guys let me down big time here you really did I hope all you ps4 guys are fucking happy with your selfs its just not fare it really isn't
What are you talking about? This review is the PC version. I don't have a PS4. Here is the link to purchase it for the PC - www.farming-simulator.com/dlc-detail.php?lang=en&country=us&dlc_id=fs17kuhn
The fuck you talking about? It's on PC.