Hair Salon Owner Announces That She Won't Serve Trans Customers

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июл 2023
  • Christine Geige, owner of Studio 8 Hair Lab in Traverse City, Michigan, apparently took the wrong lessons from recent SCOTUS decisions. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. shoptyt.com/collections/justi...
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    "The owner of a Michigan hair salon said she is refusing service to some members of the LGBTQ+ community. Christine Geiger, who owns Studio 8 Hair Lab in Traverse City, said in a Facebook post she is exercising her free speech by only allowing certain customers.
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  • @k.p.9990
    @k.p.9990 11 месяцев назад +28

    If a human identifies as a bigoted jerk, I will take MY business elsewhere.

    • @dustinsindledecker154
      @dustinsindledecker154 11 месяцев назад +1

      So you don't want to do business with Ana Kasparian?

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 11 месяцев назад

      That's what I identify as. And allies should be deplateformed and denied business too.

    • @lizf1353
      @lizf1353 11 месяцев назад

      @zenster1097 "All these people are giddly, too full of their own hatred to know what's going on. Someone wins at the end. It's not the end, but hopefully beginning of something new. ...."
      Aren't these your words? Seems like you might have a hypocrisy issue 🤔 maybe you should talk to someone about your anger and hate issues?

    • @lizf1353
      @lizf1353 11 месяцев назад

      @dustinsindledecker154 I'm certainly disappointed in her recent past behavior and I very much hope she gets educated and does some soul searching...

    • @gregwilson8503
      @gregwilson8503 11 месяцев назад

      @@lizf1353 Get educated? Listen to how you talk. You literally scare me. People have a right to think for themselves and have their own beliefs and not to be "educated"

  • @TallulahBelle3276
    @TallulahBelle3276 11 месяцев назад +17

    It’s said that in a salon business if you make someone happy they tell about 5 people. However, when you make someone unhappy they tell about 11 people.
    I was a licensed cosmetologist for 40 years. I owned a salon for 5 years. I’ve worked in a few states n for many salons throughout my career. Saying something like this is a death sentence for a salon.
    Have fun renting a booth somewhere after your salon dies! 💇‍♀️💇💇‍♂️

    • @TallulahBelle3276
      @TallulahBelle3276 11 месяцев назад +1

      Do you have any idea how much money this beautiful group of people spend at a salon? You are a special kind of stupid to allow this to spill into your business of beauty.
      This 💩 is cRaZy!

    • @gregwilson8503
      @gregwilson8503 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not so sure anymore. I think they will have quite a following of people who share her feelings. I personally support companies who do not push woke agendas. But don't care what anyone does in their own lives. To each their own.

    • @idealiamcadory3769
      @idealiamcadory3769 11 месяцев назад

      @@gregwilson8503 me too. I’m so sick of this woke shit.

    • @kellykerr5225
      @kellykerr5225 11 месяцев назад

      @@idealiamcadory3769 There is no woke shit. You guys just made it up because you have zero policies because complaining and name calling is all you got. Nobody is pushing anything on you. If you don’t like gay pride, then don’t go. I don’t go because it’s too hot outside. You could easily live your entire life and never meet a drag queen. I used to know them because I went out of my way to get to know them and understand them. Unlike the rest of republicans who are terrified of everything. Have you seen a trans person or drag queen do anything wrong. If so, tell the story. Otherwise all I hear is complain complain complain. That’s a sad life. Go find a hobby or something productive

    • @TallulahBelle3276
      @TallulahBelle3276 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@idealiamcadory3769 , Hmmm. Very telling.😑

  • @Chris-lt8up
    @Chris-lt8up 11 месяцев назад +16

    How is she going to know? Is she asking for a trans ID? She's a coward that's why her accounts are private.

  • @TheGholiday
    @TheGholiday 11 месяцев назад +8

    Unfortunately this behaviour isn’t un-American. Hate and bigotry has become what America is all about.

    • @truth2power463
      @truth2power463 11 месяцев назад +3

      I'll go a step further and suggest to you that hatred and bigotry are the cornerstones of America's foundation.

    • @Remytherattatatata
      @Remytherattatatata 11 месяцев назад

      @@truth2power463sadly.

    • @GPFaster1
      @GPFaster1 11 месяцев назад +3

      There's no hatred or bigotry from this hair stylist. She simply prefers reality and truth. Good for her!

  • @yasumotonoboru
    @yasumotonoboru 11 месяцев назад +11

    The irony is that she only writes "if a human identifies as anything other than man/woman". Actually, transgender people do identify as man/woman, just not the same as assigned at birth...

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад

      So then why are trans supporters trying to say that she is a "transphope" if she did not type anything about trans people. She was 100% correct typing that "hate hides behind rainbows and unicorns."

    • @audreywellham2413
      @audreywellham2413 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@logicalanswer3529trans people can identify multiple ways. There is no certain look. I’ve met transgender people and I would have never known physically. 🙏🏻🇺🇸

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад

      @@audreywellham2413 The owner did not type anything about trans people. Why are you trying to claim that she did?

    • @audreywellham2413
      @audreywellham2413 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@logicalanswer3529 I’m sorry if you don’t understand. Perhaps - you -did not listen to full video. At the end she reposts on another site her definition a bit more clearly.

    • @davidsheriff9274
      @davidsheriff9274 11 месяцев назад +2

      That's true, what she is describing are non-binary trans people, but actually the woman sounds like such an ignorant moron that I don't think she knows what she is even talking about.

  • @Tazandcoco12
    @Tazandcoco12 11 месяцев назад +13

    I went into a Redners grocery store located in Lansdale PA and was followed around by 3 white men. I was extremely terrified. Also I find out my son several months before also had a bad experience with a cashier. So my son and I no longer shop there. Once I find out you don't want me in your business, I'll take my green cold Cash elsewhere. Good bye ✌🏾

  • @theeskrungly
    @theeskrungly 11 месяцев назад +8

    America is one of the countries that sees going backwards as progression. My main issue from a non American is that this will lead to further segregation based on more things.

  • @bajo671
    @bajo671 11 месяцев назад +5

    How many would it be 1 or 2 that she would actual notice? All these people that are offended have never seen a trans person.

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think people are offended because she is a bigot. To be fair

  • @TaverenTech
    @TaverenTech 11 месяцев назад +12

    She crossed 2 lines, but it got really bad with her "suggestion" of where they should get services. No matter how you feel about anyone for any reason, dehumanizing someone is hard red line you should never ever cross. Perhaps this person needs a career change, they'll hire anyone for house of representatives.

    • @genderdystopia019
      @genderdystopia019 11 месяцев назад +1

      I mean some of these people do identify as dogs and cats... they are dehumanizing themselves.

    • @Patriot-hz8xk
      @Patriot-hz8xk 10 месяцев назад

      She is a hero for not kneeling to the woke mob! Merica is a free country! The libs could move to Mexico instead!

    • @mathkriston44
      @mathkriston44 10 месяцев назад

      I took me along time to learn this you are very right. As much as I despise transgenders, dehumanizing them is not ok

  • @AutumnAliciaK
    @AutumnAliciaK 11 месяцев назад +16

    I have this conversation with my fiance. The pronoun game. It doesn't make sense to me. Why is it so hard to call people what they want to be called. In my opinion it's like a person named Michael that prefers to be called Mike. If they want to be called something, call them what they want, it literally doesn't hurt you.

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад +4

      That is how it is with EVERY Damm issue that conservatives are riding on so hard these days. What ever happened to mind your own fin business? The right to declare they are the party of freedom was lost long ago.

    • @therealjammit
      @therealjammit 11 месяцев назад

      It's manufactured outrage. It's all made up.

    • @Piromysl359
      @Piromysl359 11 месяцев назад +3

      You can't expect sane people to affirm your delusions.

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 11 месяцев назад

      You are part of the problem. Anyone who accommodates is complicit.

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад +2

      @zenster1097 complicit in what? Being respectful of people who are literally causing you zero harm?

  • @sacshellpolk4403
    @sacshellpolk4403 11 месяцев назад +6

    stop money. don't do business with her shop. that's how you defeat hate.

  • @CynM.
    @CynM. 11 месяцев назад +7

    She probably can't cut hair as good as a pet groomer.

  • @cloo6984
    @cloo6984 11 месяцев назад +7

    Im curious..do people like this plan on checking genitalia prior to service? 😮

  • @ursulakavaliauskas4463
    @ursulakavaliauskas4463 11 месяцев назад +6

    Hope her business tanks.

  • @tracybenson6364
    @tracybenson6364 11 месяцев назад +6

    Do you really want someone who hates you cutting your hair?

  • @patriciacarter4777
    @patriciacarter4777 11 месяцев назад +8

    Boycott her place,don't go there at all,straight or gay,SHUT HER DOWN,she can't run without your business.

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +1

      She is actually getting massive support over the decision because the majority of people know how to behave and think rationally.

    • @eehee2428
      @eehee2428 8 месяцев назад

      @@logicalanswer3529 you mean like to take their insecurities out on groups of people without power?

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 8 месяцев назад

      @@eehee2428 What insecurities?

  • @MrJoelkamins
    @MrJoelkamins 11 месяцев назад +4

    We can all discriminate….
    No “Red Hats” in my business….

    • @dopechef228
      @dopechef228 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes you can it's your business😂😂 .. america is a free country ...

  • @GO-GO_SO-SO
    @GO-GO_SO-SO 11 месяцев назад +15

    I guess I could see a hypothetical where a religious person not wanting to make a web design for a gay wedding, but someone not wanting to do someone's hair? Where does the discrimination end or cross the line? I feel this is a slippery slope.

    • @devonjones4742
      @devonjones4742 11 месяцев назад +7

      The fact that you "could see a hypothetical where" bigotry is cool proves Christopher Hitchens' point that "religion poisons everything".

    • @GO-GO_SO-SO
      @GO-GO_SO-SO 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@devonjones4742 Yeah, I agree religion does poison minds and stifles progress. It's not cool, but I think I could see some kind of reasoning in the religious person's thought process. I don't agree with it, but I could at least see some kind of logic there. I see no logic in refusing to do someone's hair because they are trans.

    • @dustinsindledecker154
      @dustinsindledecker154 11 месяцев назад +4

      This gonna create racial descrimination very soon

    • @BrianandLesliesMommy
      @BrianandLesliesMommy 11 месяцев назад

      For MAGAs it ends when the rest of us are walking into the gas chamber.

    • @chrisbaker3066
      @chrisbaker3066 11 месяцев назад

      @@dustinsindledecker154 WHAT?? You think that could possibly happen? In the USA, home of racial discrimination?? Soon???
      Look around you!

  • @SuperJulioes
    @SuperJulioes 11 месяцев назад +5

    In a way it is good that bigots are showing their true colors, I for sure would not support a business that discriminates on others.

  • @ambershinault3792
    @ambershinault3792 11 месяцев назад +4

    I wouldn't want to use their services.

  • @newbloomwon
    @newbloomwon 11 месяцев назад +5

    She can just close her business if she has such strong feelings.

  • @kimtaylor5535
    @kimtaylor5535 11 месяцев назад +8

    Also this is so weird coming from a hairdresser. Being a hairdresser is all about changing what's on the outside and moving from normal. It's normal for me to have dark curly hair. But if I go to her and ask her to make me a blond and straighten my hair I'll bet she will, even though that's not "normal"

  • @NicsHODLN
    @NicsHODLN 11 месяцев назад +4

    How would she even know?

  • @onlyme219
    @onlyme219 11 месяцев назад +27

    If I was a hairdresser I'd be happy to do anyone's haircut, it's business I'd have bills to pay. So long as you're polite and a decent person as a customer. I don't care what pigeoned hole you are now put into . Live and let live

    • @jawant6039
      @jawant6039 11 месяцев назад +3

      Maybe some of us don't want to reaffirm insanity.

    • @jenmurakami6269
      @jenmurakami6269 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@jawant6039 Just call it what it is, bigotry and move on. Just be honest with yourself and stop trying to sugar-coat it.

    • @jawant6039
      @jawant6039 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jenmurakami6269 you does not know me and you is not smart at all

    • @silspyro_5774
      @silspyro_5774 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@jawant6039 "You is not smart at all" lmfao

    • @therealjammit
      @therealjammit 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@jawant6039 Insane? I would really like to see your peer reviewed paper on that.

  • @DoctorTurdmidget
    @DoctorTurdmidget 11 месяцев назад +5

    Cool. I'm no longer serving Christians, Republicans, or people who liked the Star Wars prequels.

    • @marilyne4324
      @marilyne4324 11 месяцев назад +1

      Omg. I've been trying to come up with my list.
      You nailed it. 😂

    • @CiriOfcentra
      @CiriOfcentra 11 месяцев назад +1

      Of course you have nothing you say against the sequels 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @DoctorTurdmidget
      @DoctorTurdmidget 11 месяцев назад

      @@CiriOfcentra I was trying to forget they existed, but you ruined that for me, thanks.

  • @stonesfan285
    @stonesfan285 11 месяцев назад +5

    It's her business and she has a right to refuse service for any reason she wants.

    • @nkoistrash
      @nkoistrash 11 месяцев назад +2

      That's not how that works.

    • @SN-sz7kw
      @SN-sz7kw 11 месяцев назад

      No. Full stop. If you advertise in the public space you cannot violate civil rights. Both state & federal law prohibits it by listing protected classes - gender, ethnicity, religion etc. Sexual orientation included. She needs a lawyer.

  • @donabeth4561
    @donabeth4561 11 месяцев назад +5

    They have opened a can of worms with this decision. Everything is creative: nursing, medicine, mechanical engineering, cooking, hairstyling, makeup artists, musicians, journalist, construction…etc. it all stems from arts. She may find herself not welcome to receive many many services.

  • @reelreeler8778
    @reelreeler8778 11 месяцев назад +5

    If I were LGBT, I can't honestly say that I'd want to get a haircut from, or have a wedding cake baked for me by anyone who has a problem with the fact that I exist. So maybe in an odd way it's good to know who not to patronize.

    • @jking713
      @jking713 11 месяцев назад +1

      I hear you, but what happens when that bigot is the only hairdresser because you live in a tiny small town. Not every one can drive miles and miles to get basic services

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад

      So if you have the right to not go to her shop because of her beliefs than she should have the equal right to not serve you because of your beliefs.

  • @midnitedip8850
    @midnitedip8850 11 месяцев назад +4

    Now thats just a stupid business move .

  • @NotUrAnTi.SemiTicBOYtoy
    @NotUrAnTi.SemiTicBOYtoy 11 месяцев назад +4

    Too many grown adults worried about what other grown adults do with their private parts. 😂

    • @totalwater9431
      @totalwater9431 11 месяцев назад +1

      Too many grown adults demanding other people refer to them using customized pronouns.

    • @NotUrAnTi.SemiTicBOYtoy
      @NotUrAnTi.SemiTicBOYtoy 11 месяцев назад

      @@totalwater9431 pronouns are a part of speech. You know this, right? 👀
      Respecting someone wanting to be addressed as her/they/she/them is not difficult. Considering we address one another as sir or mam. You just want to be a disrespectful prick because you don’t approve of the sexuality of another.
      Edit: i am shit with words.

    • @totalwater9431
      @totalwater9431 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@NotUrAnTi.SemiTicBOYtoy *"pronouns are a part of speech. You know this, right?"*
      - Yes ofcourse. In English pronouns correspond to gender which is based on biological-sex. You know this, right?
      *"Respecting someone wanting to be addressed as her/they/she/them is not difficult."*
      - A demand to be referred to using pronouns that do not reflect your actual biological-sex is not a request that deserves respect.
      You must be an irrational and disrespectful little prick for accusing anyone who doesnt go along with your ridiculous nonsense as being disrespectful.

  • @krissyb1980
    @krissyb1980 11 месяцев назад +7

    That's fine I wouldn't want to go to a place like that. I'll give my money to someone who isn't a jerk. Hating people is such a waste of time and energy. Just let people be who they are and hey if you can open your mind you might make a life long friend or learn something.

  • @shadowjudge921
    @shadowjudge921 11 месяцев назад +4

    Wait, what? She won't serve ppl who don't identify as "man" or "woman"?
    Isn't that how trans ppl identify? Either as "man" or "woman"?

    • @yarpenzigrin1893
      @yarpenzigrin1893 11 месяцев назад

      She won't serve men wearing womanface.

  • @mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat
    @mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat 11 месяцев назад +10

    It's the fact that she told them to go to a dog groomer that makes it extra messed up! She finds joy in dehumanizing others and that's wrong.

    • @indigosue3070
      @indigosue3070 11 месяцев назад

      Unless.. she's a terrible stylist! Thanks! I'll warn everyone I know!

    • @Inz10
      @Inz10 11 месяцев назад

      Right good lady

  • @SN-sz7kw
    @SN-sz7kw 11 месяцев назад +7

    Even her loyal customers aren’t going to show for appts with picketers out front. Moderates will go elsewhere. And new ones won’t want the complications. People just want a haircut, not a political meltdown. And now she’ll need to pay a lawyer out of profits. And she’s shut down her social media. The price of getting all wound up in a Facebook echo chamber. Seriously not worth it. Learn to separate politics from business - unless your business is politics.

  • @antimatterexplodes4014
    @antimatterexplodes4014 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's almost like we all saw this coming....

  • @PINKBOIKWEENOFSOUL
    @PINKBOIKWEENOFSOUL 11 месяцев назад +5

    Well...I WOULDN'T WANT MY HAIR DONE BY SOME OLD WITCH LOOKING LADY WHO HATES ME! 😂 Maybe we should appreciate the fact that she let people know where she stands... That just may save some trouble! 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @jamesbetzer6542
    @jamesbetzer6542 11 месяцев назад +3

    How is it that the person bringing the false, made-up, web designer case to the supreme court not being charged with perjury? Is that not perjury?

  • @micah9096
    @micah9096 11 месяцев назад +9

    I bet she'll mind her own business when her business goes bust!

    • @RogueXV
      @RogueXV 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I'm sure the 2% of the population will really make or break her business. 🤣

    • @micah9096
      @micah9096 11 месяцев назад

      @@RogueXV you must be anywhere from 2-3 years of age to think that's it's only 2% of the population that cares about people being left alone to do as they so please unfettered!

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 11 месяцев назад

      @@RogueXV It's more like .03. And the allies of mentally ill people are not needed either.

    • @wolfstar675
      @wolfstar675 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@RogueXV
      People who are against discrimination and hatred will stop going there. Not all of us are bigots like you even if we're part of the majority.

    • @RogueXV
      @RogueXV 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@wolfstar675 Your literally being a bigot by definition, by not respecting her religious beliefs. The left openly attacks Conservatives all the time, just for being conservative. Which is also the literal definition of bigot. Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
      What is a Women has over 300 million views and high ratings. Sounds of Freedom is the #1 movie, I cant hardly find 1 video that reports on lgbt topics that isn't downvoted into oblivion, But please tell me your the majority. Hell even this channel gets ratio'd and its as bias as they come. 😅
      Just accept it. People are tired of the trans shit being shoved down their throat and LGB is being pulled down with it.

  • @christinalittleton3771
    @christinalittleton3771 11 месяцев назад +6

    Meanwhile, if a store that sells leather-back books that contain "fictional cookbooks", "fan scripts", and "fanfictions from 1st POV like an actual journal" opens up, notices that one of the customers is wearing a "Jesus Dies For Our Sins" necklace, and says to that customer "Oh, you're a Christian? Sorry, we don't sell to your kind."...
    FOX News would claim to their viewers that all Hell has broken loose, the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse are flying in the sky chanting "Eat The Rich White Cis Christians" in Latin.
    The Supreme Court's response?
    "Well, it's their private business/company. They have a right to refuse any customer they want."

    • @therealjammit
      @therealjammit 11 месяцев назад +1

      They're already making that claim. The mere acknowledgement that trans and gay exist by a beer company is enough to set them off.

  • @MDM8998
    @MDM8998 11 месяцев назад +12

    She doesnt realize that she's ruining client relationships with ppl who possibly and probably do not share her same feelings. Plus, shes gotta be a dumb azz business woman to turn away money from those who she wouldnt even know their preferences unlessed asked about....

    • @Piromysl359
      @Piromysl359 11 месяцев назад

      They do hate her for being Christian alone.

    • @MDM8998
      @MDM8998 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Piromysl359 who hates her????? Literal random strangers?? Without immediate identification, how would anyone know a person's religion/faith? My apologies. I'm just confused about your response

    • @Piromysl359
      @Piromysl359 11 месяцев назад

      @@MDM8998 one of the aspects of leftists is absolute hatred of Christianity and Christians and it's pretty easy to tell if someone is Christian

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 11 месяцев назад

      but she could get support from people who agree with her

  • @imagem812
    @imagem812 11 месяцев назад +7

    She'll.likely lose alot of liberal customers too. She must have alot of business to risk losing a good percentage of customers who are intolerant of discrimintion. Hopefully her business will go belly up because of it.

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад

      I'm going to guess she isn't capable of thinking as far ahead as you have. It's probably a bit more like "Trans people make me uncomfortable because I don't understand them, so I hate them, so I better go get internet point for it". I wouldn't be shocked if she also feels the same about all queer folks but knows she definitely can't get away with saying that put loud.

  • @pamelaramsey9479
    @pamelaramsey9479 11 месяцев назад +4

    The New Testament says there are only two commandments, to love God with everything you have and to love your neighbor as you love yourself. That’s it! There is no discrimination of one neighbor vs another neighbor! If you believe in Christianity then you show love for all neighbors!

    • @chrisbaker3066
      @chrisbaker3066 11 месяцев назад

      @@kimhoffmannandersen5477 HARSH!! true ..but harsh!

  • @lizhannan9440
    @lizhannan9440 11 месяцев назад +2

    I guess ppl should make an informed decision and NOT use her services!!

  • @shariholmes4276
    @shariholmes4276 11 месяцев назад +2

    I wouldn't want anyone, who hates me give their "services" to me anyway!

  • @Salemwitchkitty
    @Salemwitchkitty 11 месяцев назад +8

    Why does hate even have to be a thing??!! Such a waste of time and energy.

    • @yarpenzigrin1893
      @yarpenzigrin1893 11 месяцев назад

      Because you people are pushing a degenerate neomarxist agenda and people are fed up with it.

  • @micah9096
    @micah9096 11 месяцев назад +15

    How would she know if they're trans? What about molesters or a murderer, what about a liar? Are they all banned too?

    • @Piromysl359
      @Piromysl359 11 месяцев назад +2

      You can tell someone is trans by mere glance, because they think this is a trend and make everyone sure they know that.

    • @CiriOfcentra
      @CiriOfcentra 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Piromysl359 so true

    • @yarpenzigrin1893
      @yarpenzigrin1893 11 месяцев назад +1

      Are you serious? In 99% of the cases it's obvious that it's a man dressed up as a woman.

    • @dustinsindledecker154
      @dustinsindledecker154 11 месяцев назад

      She would allow Christian pedophiles service.

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 11 месяцев назад

      @@yarpenzigrin1893 Not sure 99% but a lot of them, yes.

  • @ronnyhansson8713
    @ronnyhansson8713 11 месяцев назад +6

    what does republicans think pronouns are - as far as i know pronouns are a grammer term to speak with words instead of names (hard to translate from swedish to english in my head and make the point) - and are words like I, You, We, Them, Us aswell as She and He. And it makes it way funny when the rightwing christians claims stuff like "there are no pronouns in the bible" except GOD uses them all the time when talking about himselves...

  • @KimMahoney-en3cy
    @KimMahoney-en3cy 11 месяцев назад +11

    So, just a couple things. I have worked closely with many Trans folx. #1 I guarantee this woman has served a trans customer in the past without even knowing it. #2 Trans folx, for the most part, simply want to live their lives, and probably aren't walking in a dress and full makeup stating that they want to be called "she". They wouldn't want to draw attention to their situation, just just wanted to be treated like everyone else. #3 There are several reasons a woman may have "manly" features such as PCOS which can result in facial hair. Is she going to not call a actual female, a she because she may have facial hair? Ridiculous!!

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад

      You are trying to guarantee things to other people that you are guessing or making up in your own mind. That is very irrational.

    • @shoeshane6494
      @shoeshane6494 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's usually pretty obvious. I doubt that she has served anyone so throughly passable. It's very rare. I know from working/socializing with the community for decades.

    • @idealiamcadory3769
      @idealiamcadory3769 11 месяцев назад

      Trans draw attention to themselves all the time which is causing the backlash. All these different pronouns we can’t keep up with got forbid if I called one of them the wrong pronoun they cause a scene. They going into woman’s sports and bathrooms they don’t just want to live their lives they want special privileges and the rest of Americans are over them

    • @shoeshane6494
      @shoeshane6494 11 месяцев назад +1

      @idealiamcadory3769 ...not in disagreement necessarily, but I'm wondering if those are situations you've actually experienced or just a potentiality you are concerned about. Like I said, I have worked/socialized. with the Trans community over the past 15 years or so. I have never been introduced to a Trans person who included their preferred pronoun after offering their name. I've never happened upon a Trans person in a public bathroom. I know Trans athletes exist ,but their movement is gaining zero traction. Finally, I just wanted to know if you could give me an example of a special privilege that Trans people are acting entitled to. I can't really think of one.

    • @idealiamcadory3769
      @idealiamcadory3769 11 месяцев назад

      @@shoeshane6494 trans woman playing in woman’s sports knowing if they went thur male puberty they have an advantage

  • @413benmc
    @413benmc 11 месяцев назад +4

    i owned an ad agency and refused to serve a company offering high interest payday loans targeted at single black mothers. i felt the practices were predatory and did not want to assist in any way. Im not sure how legal that was, but the would-be client never challenged it.

    • @NekoYuki
      @NekoYuki 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's a big difference. Identity vs behavior

    • @413benmc
      @413benmc 11 месяцев назад

      @@NekoYuki that's a great point. thank you.

  • @kimtaylor5535
    @kimtaylor5535 11 месяцев назад +7

    I have mixed feelings about this ruling because if I were an artist, I would want to refuse to create that promotes hate. An example is a tattooist I knew who refused to do swastika tattoos. Also, it is good to know what businesses would choose to discriminate against LGBTQ or any other minority group so we can be sure not to spend money with them, and make sure everyone knows their business practices.

    • @kimtaylor5535
      @kimtaylor5535 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@biochemica2 You're right. I just mean reserving the right to refuse service based on moral objections I agree with LGBTQ being a protected class (I thought they already were).

    • @andreroberts6795
      @andreroberts6795 11 месяцев назад

      I don't believe in forcing artists to create art they object to, no matter what it is

    • @jonjenkins5621
      @jonjenkins5621 11 месяцев назад

      @@andreroberts6795 artists don’t have to unless they have a business open to the public where they sell directly to the public and take orders. Most artists don’t work like that. They may take commissions but the copyright for the work remains with the artist, not the person who buys the piece. So no, they can’t be forced to make art they object to. Web designers aren’t artists. They may be creative but they aren’t making pieces of art.

    • @steve-ph9yg
      @steve-ph9yg 11 месяцев назад

      @@kimtaylor5535they are a protected class already.

    • @peterhausmann8337
      @peterhausmann8337 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's no problem if you refuse to do special services as long as you refuse to do it for everyone. The discrimination is the illegal part.

  • @terrygoyan3022
    @terrygoyan3022 11 месяцев назад +2

    How would she know if a customer is trans gender? Does she do a "junk" check at the door? SMH

    • @dustinsindledecker154
      @dustinsindledecker154 11 месяцев назад

      Republicans are so obsessed with seeing dicks and vaginas

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 11 месяцев назад

      you can tell when a person is trans...

  • @imnotmike
    @imnotmike 11 месяцев назад +6

    You're misinterpreting that Supreme Court ruling, either deliberately or unintentionally. What the ruling said is that if someone comes in to your business, you have to serve them, but you don't have to provide them with services that are not normal services that are already listed on your menu or business catalogue.
    If a gay couple goes to a bakery and wants a cake, the bakery has to sell them a cake. But if the bakery doesn't make cakes with decorations specific to gay couples, the bakery doesn't have to create something for the gay couple that is not normally in their catalogue.
    This woman is on pretty shaky ground, because she just does haircuts and styling, and there isn't any kind of haircut or hairstyle that is specific to trans people. When a trans person comes in, they're just going to be asking for a haircut, and she can't deny them a haircut if the business does haircuts.

    • @truth2power463
      @truth2power463 11 месяцев назад +4

      Very well outlined. You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, your comprehension skills are far and away better than the average bigot and racist, so they STILL think that denying services based on hatred is supported by the Constitution.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 11 месяцев назад

      yeah the hair saloon would then have to be strictly sex based then
      like how barber shops don't take women

  • @primordial_platypus
    @primordial_platypus 11 месяцев назад +7

    Instead of banning them she should prove her artistic talent by fashioning hairstyles that offset the male/female features of a trans client. That would be a hairstylist worthy of anyone’s business.

    • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
      @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me 11 месяцев назад

      Kind soul♡♡

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why not just respect her wishes? She already said that she is not caving to some B.S agenda.

  • @mikelofky587
    @mikelofky587 11 месяцев назад +6

    the comments are full of transphobes..

  • @realitypreferred7084
    @realitypreferred7084 11 месяцев назад +3

    She should cut hair in her home. If one can't work in a public setting, it sounds like a personal problem, to me.

  • @jschultz2363
    @jschultz2363 11 месяцев назад +6

    Right wingers use pronouns all of the time, what is up with their war on grammar?

  • @bunda713
    @bunda713 11 месяцев назад +4

    Go get your hair cut at a Pro Trans hair place and put her out of business. That's how you win.

    • @pakese30
      @pakese30 11 месяцев назад

      Most sane individuals don’t give a f*ck if someone’s trans or not. Is their hair going to do anything weird or something?

  • @Greg-io1ip
    @Greg-io1ip 11 месяцев назад +3

    As if she was being overrun with Rudy in drag popping in?

  • @phenixfire8980
    @phenixfire8980 11 месяцев назад +3

    The fact that Matt Walsh had to make a movie asking what a Woman is because the left has just blindly accepted this with no push back and the when I or any biological woman say hey we are not the same your automatically called transphobic just for pointing out the obvious. The fact that a grown ass man can sit in a room with women and say one day that he wants to be a mother just strikes a nerve and that’s how the left lost me

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад

      The left never had you. And counter point, why can't you just keep it to yourself or just share it with your friends? Do you air every single grievance you have with the entire world? Do you try to outlaw everything that annoys you or that you don't understand, when it has literally no effect on your life except for being weird or icky to you?

    • @phenixfire8980
      @phenixfire8980 11 месяцев назад

      @@kingofsoybeans313 I once felt like you then I grew up

    • @ShirleyTimple
      @ShirleyTimple 11 месяцев назад

      @@phenixfire8980 imagine holding up Matt Walsh as an example of anything except being a pedophile lol

  • @indigosue3070
    @indigosue3070 11 месяцев назад +5

    Well okay then. Say g'bye to your hostile little business.

  • @ianalan4367
    @ianalan4367 11 месяцев назад +6

    I think she is dead ass wrong and about as rude as can be. The dog groomer comment clearly makes her a wretched woman. It’s her salon though. Refuse who you want an go out of business.

  • @shuricartier4871
    @shuricartier4871 11 месяцев назад +4

    Why can't business owners serve who they want?

    • @MickGough1957
      @MickGough1957 11 месяцев назад

      I agree. Non-nutjobs will just not patronise the subs who wish to ban various minorities. Normal people will pick up the trade and the nutjob businesses will eventually whither on the vine.

    • @myeyeswentdeaf6213
      @myeyeswentdeaf6213 11 месяцев назад +1

      It’s kind of a grey area. The discrimination law for businesses started to combat segregation, all the ‘No Coloreds Allowed’ signs. But the 6 bought and payed for conservative justices of the illegitimate SCOTUS just revisited the law and allowed for businesses to discriminate against LGBTQ People.

    • @danielgrace3355
      @danielgrace3355 11 месяцев назад

      Cause it's a slippery slope and businesses will start using this law to discriminate on race, gender and sexual preference extc....

    • @AuntieMamies
      @AuntieMamies 11 месяцев назад

      It's a really dumb way to do business. It's a great way to lose a lot of money. I personally don't care if she won't service trans people. I'm just gonna sit back and laugh at all the money this lunatic is gonna lose

    • @AntiFreezePeach
      @AntiFreezePeach 11 месяцев назад

      Bake me a gay cake.

  • @pmmcrobb
    @pmmcrobb 11 месяцев назад +2

    “The hate hidden behind rainbows.” Proceeds to tell trans people to use a pet groomer.

  • @BobPsomiadis
    @BobPsomiadis 11 месяцев назад +5

    I hope people will go elsewhere .What right does she have to treat these people as third class citizens.I blame her attitude solely on the supreme court .She thinks she is the only hairdresser in her state .

  • @avphotog
    @avphotog 11 месяцев назад +3

    Money talks. Allies should avoid this salon at all costs. If you went there and don't agree with her stance then stop going. If she goes out of business she'll understand what f around and find out means. People shouldn't be rewarded for bigotry.

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 11 месяцев назад

      Anti woke go broke!

  • @JeromeBellon
    @JeromeBellon 11 месяцев назад +3

    First, is the reference to "pets" supposed to mean that non-binary people are not humans? Or are they mixing all their various moral panics and this is a shot at furries?
    Second, most LGBTQ+ do identify as man or woman. LGB have nothing to do with gender identity (that's sexual orientation), T is still a man/woman identification that just happens to not match the gender assigned at birth.
    This message was not only hateful and discriminatory, it was also extremely stupid.

  • @jenningsjoanne
    @jenningsjoanne 11 месяцев назад +2

    This world is a mess

  • @Payton20ADZ
    @Payton20ADZ 11 месяцев назад +3

    So sad. So surprised that a beautician would say that

  • @JML6988
    @JML6988 11 месяцев назад +3

    A couple things: first, I hate it when businesses discriminate for reasons other than sensible ones. For example, if a person is engaging in illegal activity on premises or against the customers, then banning them is ok. But refusing service due to race, gender, ideology, religion, etc is just plain wrong. Regarding pronouns, there needs to be give & take.

    • @audreywellham2413
      @audreywellham2413 11 месяцев назад

      So the hairstyles are never gender oriented as of last 48+ years that I’m aware of. 🤷🏼‍♀️. Identify as you are! 🙏🏻🇺🇸

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +1

      You didn't even watch the clip. How embarrassing. She is refusing service to people who do not identify as a man or a woman.

    • @audreywellham2413
      @audreywellham2413 11 месяцев назад

      @@logicalanswer3529 how they ‘identify’ is up to them, how they look (presentation) could be a million different ways. 🙏🏻🇺🇸

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@audreywellham2413 What? you are not making any rational sense.

  • @pancake2662
    @pancake2662 11 месяцев назад +4

    It's not that hard to understand ann if you study religion you'll understand what they're doing. They live in a bubble it's them out there that I wrong. On the other hand a good Christian respects everyone and doesn't take it so personally that the other person may be gay to be nice to them. Instead of bible-thumping them

  • @euroyankee2003
    @euroyankee2003 11 месяцев назад +2

    Anyone in the cosmetology business should be very careful not to piss off the lgbtq + community.

  • @DragonGoddess18
    @DragonGoddess18 11 месяцев назад +2

    "Free speech" or not, it doesn't matter.
    Just because you can say it doesn't mean you should. This woman is taking it too far and thinks being a bigot is okay. Her attitude will hurt her in the long run because like it or not, being kind is more important than being blunt unfiltered.

  • @user-bs7ue6yz3m
    @user-bs7ue6yz3m 11 месяцев назад +3

    Love to disagree again, the proprietor of ANY business has the right to refuse service - no shirt, no shoes, no shit - just be careful when saying why. I've been refused service hundreds of times because of the way I wear my hair - similarly I've refused customers because their simply annoying!!

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 11 месяцев назад +1

      Refusing service in a salon because someone embraces a pronoun you don't agree with makes you a dbag

  • @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356
    @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 11 месяцев назад +6

    but when businesses discriminate against trump supporters its completely ok

    • @samuelavalos5096
      @samuelavalos5096 11 месяцев назад +3

      Quoting trump… well it’s what it is.!!

    • @TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg
      @TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yup! nobody wants to serve racist and Nazis so yeah no Trump supporters

  • @OK-pi6fq
    @OK-pi6fq 11 месяцев назад +2

    Artist vs business. The artist has to perform the work. A business is mass produced. A restaurant has a mass production, even if it holds the name of a single chef. A salon is a mass businesses, if it’s a business it’s open to the public. If it’s an artist just selling themselves it’s an artist.

  • @johnkozlovich5519
    @johnkozlovich5519 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why would you want to get a hair cut etc from someone that doesn't like you?

  • @yayakelley7771
    @yayakelley7771 11 месяцев назад +9

    This is so sick to me on 2 levels. One I’m a stylist. 2 I’m a proud Michigander. This needs to be looked at by the board of licensing. We hold a state license just like Doctors, nurses, lawyers, etc. Part of holding said license also requires that we behave in good moral standing. This isn’t!

    • @gregwilson8503
      @gregwilson8503 11 месяцев назад

      Your moral standards I presume?. What about my moral standards?

    • @williammcadoo8685
      @williammcadoo8685 11 месяцев назад

      @@gregwilson8503 Don't care, don't like it , don't run a business dealing with the public.

    • @gregwilson8503
      @gregwilson8503 11 месяцев назад

      @@williammcadoo8685 Don't tell us what to do!

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +1

      You are not the right person to be bringing up "moral standards".

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@williammcadoo8685 Don't try to force a delusional belief system onto normal people.

  • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
    @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me 11 месяцев назад +5

    Boycott the business. Let her Curl Up & Dye.

    • @MartinMartin-bh4ke
      @MartinMartin-bh4ke 11 месяцев назад +2

      So can I do this to all gay and trans establishments?

    • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
      @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me 11 месяцев назад

      @@MartinMartin-bh4ke Sure, if you want to. Go for it.

    • @MartinMartin-bh4ke
      @MartinMartin-bh4ke 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Can I tell them you sent me?

    • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
      @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me 11 месяцев назад

      @MartinMartin-bh4ke You said "can I do *this to all gay/trans establishments?" By *this, I thought you meant boycott. If so, & ur boycotting them, how can u tell em I sent u? Lol😉 Bottom line: I don't care if ppl identify as frog doo-doo (🐸lol💩) or as a he/she/they/it, & I damn sure don't care about what's between their legs. Tell em I said "Hey!" from Sweet Home Alabama & that I send all my love & hope they have a great weekend. Same thing goes for you, MartinMartin. Be good... or be good at it😉 lol. Love♡ VOTE Dem❤️🤍💙

  • @donnammonroe2095
    @donnammonroe2095 11 месяцев назад +2

    Her salon should be boycotted

  • @sarah2.017
    @sarah2.017 11 месяцев назад +2

    How would she know they were trans, anyway?

  • @specialpatrolgroup92
    @specialpatrolgroup92 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm ace, that would put me in the TQ+, am I banned?

  • @myeyeswentdeaf6213
    @myeyeswentdeaf6213 11 месяцев назад +3

    This from the same people who claim cHrIsTiAnS aRe bEiNg PeRsEcUtEd😭?
    I never seen a ‘No Christians Allowed’ sign. ..and I’m a Christian, I think I’d remember.

  • @jcburgess1343
    @jcburgess1343 11 месяцев назад +2

    I make pizza for a living. Can't wait for Clarence Thomas to come in and deny him my creative services.

  • @JH-7878
    @JH-7878 11 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine being equally offended by squihmallows.

  • @johnnygoodman2003
    @johnnygoodman2003 11 месяцев назад +6

    How the heck is this hair dresser or anyone going to determine some is or is not trans?

    • @jasperhernandez5931
      @jasperhernandez5931 11 месяцев назад +4

      Looks

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jasperhernandez5931 how does a trans person look?

    • @trevorchester4439
      @trevorchester4439 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@johnnygoodman2003Like a cross dresser or a bearded lady

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@trevorchester4439 lol... you've never talked to a lot of trans people I take it. Most likely you've met dozens of trans people and never knew it.

    • @trevorchester4439
      @trevorchester4439 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@johnnygoodman2003 Obviously you're projecting and live somewhere with no trans people. You can spot a transwoman from over half a block away

  • @Unimaginative.Moniker
    @Unimaginative.Moniker 11 месяцев назад +3

    Business owners already have the right to refuse service to anyone. This is a nasty way to publicize exact subsets of society that they won't serve as a blanket policy. Just keep you mouths to yourselves. If you feel like not providing a service, you can simple say no without touting the bigoted reason you're doing it. If I'm legally mistaken, feel free to let me know.

  • @AhmetAtalayOfficial
    @AhmetAtalayOfficial 11 месяцев назад +1

    Baking the cake is not necessarily creative. Writing stuff on top of the cake and decorating it with same sex couple imagery is creative that the bakery has the right to refuse.

  • @juliaellis2046
    @juliaellis2046 11 месяцев назад +7

    So, how does she plan to know if someone is transgender? I have met transgender people who look, sound, act in the gender they identify. I have met some female from birth who do seem more masculine.
    Not only is her comment bigoted: it is illogical.

    • @logicalanswer3529
      @logicalanswer3529 11 месяцев назад +6

      It is very obvious to someone with eyes and a rational thought process.

    • @alexseioo610
      @alexseioo610 11 месяцев назад

      She wants to discriminate based on her sensitivities. I don't like your face, so go f* yourself. The wild west basically.

    • @ImEveryWoman2023
      @ImEveryWoman2023 11 месяцев назад +4

      😂😂😂 like it’s fkn hard to tell give me a break

    • @ImEveryWoman2023
      @ImEveryWoman2023 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@logicalanswer3529perfectly said 😂😂😂

    • @SquidSnuggles
      @SquidSnuggles 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's pretty easy to spot a trans person.

  • @TheTechnoPilot
    @TheTechnoPilot 11 месяцев назад +5

    I really don’t understand how the fact that the original case being completely fraudulent and without merit doesn’t immediately nullify the ruling in its entirety and result in all those bringing it before the court facing contempt charges!

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад

      The fact it was taken up by SC with no damages in the original suit is unprecedented as I understand. The ultra conservatives are just abandoning all effort to even appear lawful or reasonable. And with an SC like the one we have, who could blame them?

  • @Roger-fy9yu
    @Roger-fy9yu 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why do you want someone who doesn't like you to cut your hair? Go find somebody else.

  • @kiwilove2163
    @kiwilove2163 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yea her business going to die. Her reviews are probably already bombed.

  • @kristinanotputtingmynameonhere
    @kristinanotputtingmynameonhere 11 месяцев назад +7

    Is she going to ask everyone if they're trans or not?

    • @yarpenzigrin1893
      @yarpenzigrin1893 11 месяцев назад +3

      Can't you tell a man dressed up as a woman from a real woman?

    • @kristinanotputtingmynameonhere
      @kristinanotputtingmynameonhere 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@yarpenzigrin1893 Not everyone who undergoes transition is noticeable. People have surgeries, take hormones, workout to develop certain areas of their body. It's a misconception to believe that all trans people look like Dennis Rodman in a dress. Also not all trans people are men transitioning to women. There are women who transition to men and at times they are less noticeable in the surface if they've had surgery and are on hormone treatments, etc. So, no, I'm not sure how she would just know for a fact whether her customers are trans unless she asks them and they decide to tell her the truth.

  • @Dhnswh
    @Dhnswh 11 месяцев назад +3

    Why it’s just a haircut 💀

  • @hollyhowell8905
    @hollyhowell8905 11 месяцев назад +3

    Nobody wants s "Karen" haircut, so decent people wont go there.

    • @dopechef228
      @dopechef228 11 месяцев назад +1

      I will go there 😂😂😂 i classified as a man..

    • @cassandra9699
      @cassandra9699 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@dopechef228yeah, we figured

    • @cassandra9699
      @cassandra9699 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@dopechef228😂😂😂

    • @hollyhowell8905
      @hollyhowell8905 11 месяцев назад

      @@dopechef228 hahahahahahahahaha

  • @nickrouse8426
    @nickrouse8426 11 месяцев назад +2

    "She really feels like she's fighting something evil." But DOES SHE?!!

    • @shoeshane6494
      @shoeshane6494 11 месяцев назад +1

      Considering how deeply the right has bought into the "protect the children" panic, I say yes. She probably really does.

  • @larryk731
    @larryk731 11 месяцев назад +3

    World tiniest violin 🎻

  • @hglez86
    @hglez86 11 месяцев назад +5

    Imagine if a store owner were to say if you’re not Muslim you’re not allowed in here, and they have head coverings to women to be allowed to enter, and full body covering to women who came in showing their knees or arms, the outrage it would get and the protests they would have at their door

  • @newbloomwon
    @newbloomwon 11 месяцев назад +2

    What about people with disabilities? Will she serve them?

  • @messier8769
    @messier8769 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thats is against the law, what happend to police enforcement of the anti discrimination act laws

  • @IraBronnson
    @IraBronnson 11 месяцев назад +3

    Not Ana being purposefully obtuse again. You have no idea why someone would be anti-trans in this current climate? Really? Bffr

    • @kingofsoybeans313
      @kingofsoybeans313 11 месяцев назад

      She doesn't understand why people would be transphobic in life regardless the climate. Presumably on a visceral level. Not that she literally doesn't understand any of the reasoning behind the current Trans panic. Don't be obtuse just because Ana has a couple shifty takes on some facets of Trans issues recently