Thank you all so much for supporting me for 5k subscribers! My website, Patreon and store are finally open if you’re interested in the LUTs or soundtracks that I create for my videos. Check out the description or website for more details: www.cleverghost.net Love, Marko (Clever Ghost)
It really depends on what you want to shoot. I think some of these formats are quirkier than others, and if you want really dramatic closeups these taller frames are much more immersive. I also want to shoot more of these taller formats
I think i still have a ways to go, but I can feel I am developing certain muscle memory for certain shots. Hope I can keep developing it, glad youre enjoying the ride
hey thanks! i will also make some free rec709 conversion to optimize the luts, currently available on discord, though i've only made one for the sigma fp so far. Blackmagic and Sony next
What's most important is within the 4 sides of this box. Would cinema be different if film had a different shape back in the day? BTW was this shot on the sigma fp? If so, these are beautiful images👍
Oh man... this has to be my favorite video of yours. Every shot was beautifully textured and done w/ intent for the aspect ratio. IDK how you do it, but keep doing it king!
*Dood can I just say your work is absolutely stunning and I can see you blasting through 6K subscribers in the future. Well done :))* Were you using the Otis or Milvus on this shoot say at @7:49? Amazing :)) I have a s5ii and you've peaked my interest to try a Zeiss... I see you're using l mount too what adapter did you use to fit the EF Zeiss? Cheers
I used only the Zeiss Otus for this video, mostly wide open. I leave the technical info at the end of each video after the credits, the EF L adapter I'm using is the Sigma mc21 i believe, I've put it in the video description too. Zeiss is very expensive and an endgame lens for video. For photography, it may be a bit too 3d for...let's say fashion with its 3d pop field curvature, it will be up to personal preference. I only use Zeiss lenses so if you are like me and chase image fidelity then Zeiss/Leica are king.
Lovely work as usual, and great soundtrack. I feel like 2.39 got so overused in 2018, but when done properly, the point you made about periphery stands true no matter what. Just ordered a Sigma FP by the way - thanks for the inspiration!
Great reflections on a complex mix of issues here. I tend to agree wider formats have a more psychologically immersive effect on me. But less so on smaller device screens, where using the whole real estate available is more important than ratio IMO: so on devices, another vote here for 2:1.
I agree with your arguments which is why I prefer 2.39 as my Xperia 10 phone has 1:2.33 display. BTW it is a great AR for a smartphone: it accommodates more text vertically while the narrow proportion makes it feel like a considerably smaller device in hand.
@@omichalek Now you mention it, I can see that 1:2+ ARs make a lot of sense for reading landscape - I have an older iPhone, and dont tend to update unless there's a feature I want... now you've given me a reason to upgrade LOL!
I will never stop being amazed how you come up with these ideas! Great work! Congragts on your website launch. Curious what I can cook with your luts on my favorite Sigma FP:)
The luts seem to work really well with that camera. I’ll probably make camera specific versions as well my personal rec709 conversation for free to optimize the luts
More videos please!! And do you still use the BMCC6k? I just bought one and i'm considering the Zeiss Milvus lenses, but i'm not that sure. Your content is the only one that uses the BMCC6k and Milvus/Otus lenses in a cinematic way. I'll love to see more of that. I watched all your videos. Maybe you could review more lenses, like budget anamorphic ones, like the Sirui Saturn or Blazars. I'm considering the Nisi's Athenas but they lack a lot of character in my opinion. Do you use mist filters or vnds?
Next video has considerable bmcc6k and milvus footage, i would say the image on the blackmagic is sharper, I prefer the softer Otus over sharper milvus with that combination, you will be able to judge for yourself. I buy all of my gear so far so I normally wouldn’t buy a lens unless it was very compelling. Nisi Athena are considerably more boring than Zeiss imo. Dzo Arles are very good. I don’t use mist filters, I use a Nisi vnd
@@cleverghostchili Yeah! I Can't wait for that video. I bought the BMCC because they made a 40% disccount on the camera. I want to focus on cinematography only. But i don't know which lenses should i pick first, i cannot even decide between spherical and anamorphic yet. I can't afford the ottus, so the milvus seem very compelling, but i doubt of its performance on high movement scenes, i'm worried about the focus breathing and the lack of versatility. Also the mounting. Do you know about other alternative that looks like the milvus/ottus? And what are you thoughts on the anamorphic look?
@@aumon you can check out my zeiss otus 55 video for more detailed thoughts, but i will say i do like anamorphics like ALFA for their wide 2x and waterfall bokeh. I prefer spherical for their precision and flexibility. You dont always want 2.39 especially for commercial work. Milvus are my recommended value lens, you can also consider DZO, Sigma art, Canon or Nikon lenses. Otherwise you have vintage glass, which becomes subjectively characterful. EF is a fine mount, nearly every camera can adapt for EF just like PL.
Dude can you just make a short film already? You're really good at this. PS. I see you're using the XH2s. Looks much better than I thought. Is it supported in ACES?
this video was completely shot on the Sigma FP, I use fujifilm only for photography now, but i will revisit in the summer when flog2 is supported natively in Davinci. I personally think fujifilm is the best camera when it comes to film emulation particularly kodak and fujifilm film stocks. I think in the summer there could be ACES support, need to wait for the update
No way 😂 I really thought it was the xh2s. You manage to make both cameras look almost equally good Is it just me or does the sigma fp have dynamic range comparable to the full frame sonys?
@@shueibdahir That's likely more the Zeiss Otus look, which i use for all my cameras. I put the technical specs at the end of the video. You know, the dynamic range feels oddly good, but all test results say it's like 12 or 12.5 stops. I can't say for certain, but it feels like 13 or maybe more, it's very impressive
@@cleverghostchili I have a slight suspicion it's a bit over 13 stops total with 11 being somewhat clean. By the way how's the sigma in dc crop mode? Does the lowlight capability become worse with crop sensor lenses? I might buy it within the next 6 lonths
@@shueibdahir It is sharper as it is 1:1 pixel readout. To be honest, I think i prefer the softer rendering of full frame, which has some downsampling going on, but looks great. I'm not sure, but I think the lowlight capabilties should be similar, it depends on the glass, t1.4 is t1.4 right
I just checked, you are correct esp the taller formats, luckily they are consistently inaccurate so they are compared relatively correctly. i have updated the descriptions and apologies
So this video is 16:10, which is 1.6. It’s not a native camera resolution so I had to crop to get this aspect ratio, I think I prefer a little more letterboxing to direct the focus a bit more
Cinema is a language. Asking which aspect ratio is more cinematic is like asking if using a type of punctuation rather than another makes a text more ‘literary’. It’s not about seeming cinematic but rather being cinematic.
@@m.i.andersen8167Exactly. Bro thought he made the perfect point. If you're at a point in filmmaking where you're looking to enhance your video via different aspect ratios, I'm sure (and would hope) you already know the fundamental principles of what makes a good shot. Deciding on aspect ratios and composing your shots for it is just the little cherry on top stylistically. A more square aspect ratio will likely be more intimate and use a lot of symmetrical composition, whereas a wider one will help you frame things better on each third.
@@ohgeezus_ When I started, only very few could choose the aspect ratio themselves, and even they were not allowed to let important things happen to far from the center of the (wide) frame as it had to be cropped for TV. But as you say, it's always nice that we can now have a little cherry on top!
Thank you all so much for supporting me for 5k subscribers! My website, Patreon and store are finally open if you’re interested in the LUTs or soundtracks that I create for my videos. Check out the description or website for more details: www.cleverghost.net
Love,
Marko (Clever Ghost)
Only a matter of time till your channel pops off. Production and content too good ~
i am the 6002 and i hope you will get one million more,your work is amazing!
2:1 looks good, is a "democratic" format and gives a little bit of room to correct tilted horizon.
Well done and beautiful shots. Idk why but I've been wanting to shoot 3:2 or even 4:3 lately
It really depends on what you want to shoot. I think some of these formats are quirkier than others, and if you want really dramatic closeups these taller frames are much more immersive. I also want to shoot more of these taller formats
this video is beautiful from each shot to each crop, each music choice, the monologue especially at the end, you deserve all the success
Only if I keep delivering 💪
So much knowledge so beautifully presented. You have such a unique style, always a joy to watch.
I think i still have a ways to go, but I can feel I am developing certain muscle memory for certain shots. Hope I can keep developing it, glad youre enjoying the ride
Congrats on the website launch, looks beautiful!
Thanks for checking it out! Will add more content to it
Thank you for another insightful and beautifully crafted video.
I have just purchased some of your LUTS and I'm excited to try them out :)
hey thanks! i will also make some free rec709 conversion to optimize the luts, currently available on discord, though i've only made one for the sigma fp so far. Blackmagic and Sony next
@@cleverghostchili nice, sounds good. i'm on the bmpcc6k
@@cleverghostchilipssssht, Panasonic please!
What's most important is within the 4 sides of this box. Would cinema be different if film had a different shape back in the day? BTW was this shot on the sigma fp? If so, these are beautiful images👍
Yes, sigma Fp, everything in technical info at the end
Love the music on this, great work! it's been cool seeing your channel grow
Oh man... this has to be my favorite video of yours. Every shot was beautifully textured and done w/ intent for the aspect ratio. IDK how you do it, but keep doing it king!
Really! Maybe because of the color grading. Always want to spice things up
this video is beautiful
really really beautiful and fitting examples, congrats on 5k!
Couldn’t make it without you
You are a big inspiration for me, watching your videos feels like I'm watching a movie and I love it.
Keep it up 🔥
This is SO sick. New sub from this video
Welcome, hope you enjoy the other content
really really beautiful video
Hey 🙋 Ghost !!!
Magic 🪄✨🪄✨ 📽️ 🎥 📽️ 🎥 as always!!
Hocus focus
I am a 2.39:1 guy deep down but ooo im liking that 16:10 on my laptop.
exactly, very dependent on which monitor you're using, but i too am digging the taller formats, we'll see...
Right on time. I've been exploring different aspect ratios lately and this was super insightful. As always, great video and thanks for sharing.
Happy to contribute to the conversation. Thanks for watching
*Dood can I just say your work is absolutely stunning and I can see you blasting through 6K subscribers in the future. Well done :))*
Were you using the Otis or Milvus on this shoot say at @7:49? Amazing :)) I have a s5ii and you've peaked my interest to try a Zeiss... I see you're using l mount too what adapter did you use to fit the EF Zeiss? Cheers
I used only the Zeiss Otus for this video, mostly wide open. I leave the technical info at the end of each video after the credits, the EF L adapter I'm using is the Sigma mc21 i believe, I've put it in the video description too. Zeiss is very expensive and an endgame lens for video. For photography, it may be a bit too 3d for...let's say fashion with its 3d pop field curvature, it will be up to personal preference. I only use Zeiss lenses so if you are like me and chase image fidelity then Zeiss/Leica are king.
@@cleverghostchili Brillant, thanks Mate. Cheers from Australia
Lovely work as usual, and great soundtrack. I feel like 2.39 got so overused in 2018, but when done properly, the point you made about periphery stands true no matter what. Just ordered a Sigma FP by the way - thanks for the inspiration!
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Hey, man. This looks really good. Congrats! Great cinematography.
Happy to spread the love
Congrats on 5k Mr. Ghost!
10k and I retire!
Just kidding
Great reflections on a complex mix of issues here. I tend to agree wider formats have a more psychologically immersive effect on me. But less so on smaller device screens, where using the whole real estate available is more important than ratio IMO: so on devices, another vote here for 2:1.
2:1 seems to be the play for RUclips. Seems the most popular ratio overall is open gate
I agree with your arguments which is why I prefer 2.39 as my Xperia 10 phone has 1:2.33 display.
BTW it is a great AR for a smartphone: it accommodates more text vertically while the narrow proportion makes it feel like a considerably smaller device in hand.
@@omichalek Now you mention it, I can see that 1:2+ ARs make a lot of sense for reading landscape - I have an older iPhone, and dont tend to update unless there's a feature I want... now you've given me a reason to upgrade LOL!
Brilliant, per usual. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words
Great job
Accidentally found your channel. I really like the feeling of your videos, keep doing man ❤
Aye, will keep on doing 🫡
Watching this video for many times!
Amazing and educational video!! Definitely worth the wait!
Haha this one took a lot longer than usual because of everything else I’ve been working on
@@cleverghostchili well, fantastic work per usual! Lets not George R.R. Martin the next release. totally kidding. Lol
I will never stop being amazed how you come up with these ideas! Great work!
Congragts on your website launch. Curious what I can cook with your luts on my favorite Sigma FP:)
The luts seem to work really well with that camera. I’ll probably make camera specific versions as well my personal rec709 conversation for free to optimize the luts
Beautiful footage
Thank you
@@cleverghostchili you’re more than welcome
I actually still use 16:9 in most cases, but this video makes me want to experiment with the aspect ratios a bit more :)
Same, I feel very comfortable with 2.39, need to push yourself sometimes
Great video man!! 😍
Good job
Great video!
More videos please!! And do you still use the BMCC6k? I just bought one and i'm considering the Zeiss Milvus lenses, but i'm not that sure. Your content is the only one that uses the BMCC6k and Milvus/Otus lenses in a cinematic way. I'll love to see more of that. I watched all your videos. Maybe you could review more lenses, like budget anamorphic ones, like the Sirui Saturn or Blazars. I'm considering the Nisi's Athenas but they lack a lot of character in my opinion. Do you use mist filters or vnds?
Next video has considerable bmcc6k and milvus footage, i would say the image on the blackmagic is sharper, I prefer the softer Otus over sharper milvus with that combination, you will be able to judge for yourself. I buy all of my gear so far so I normally wouldn’t buy a lens unless it was very compelling. Nisi Athena are considerably more boring than Zeiss imo. Dzo Arles are very good. I don’t use mist filters, I use a Nisi vnd
@@cleverghostchili Yeah! I Can't wait for that video. I bought the BMCC because they made a 40% disccount on the camera. I want to focus on cinematography only. But i don't know which lenses should i pick first, i cannot even decide between spherical and anamorphic yet. I can't afford the ottus, so the milvus seem very compelling, but i doubt of its performance on high movement scenes, i'm worried about the focus breathing and the lack of versatility. Also the mounting. Do you know about other alternative that looks like the milvus/ottus? And what are you thoughts on the anamorphic look?
@@aumon you can check out my zeiss otus 55 video for more detailed thoughts, but i will say i do like anamorphics like ALFA for their wide 2x and waterfall bokeh. I prefer spherical for their precision and flexibility. You dont always want 2.39 especially for commercial work. Milvus are my recommended value lens, you can also consider DZO, Sigma art, Canon or Nikon lenses. Otherwise you have vintage glass, which becomes subjectively characterful. EF is a fine mount, nearly every camera can adapt for EF just like PL.
@@cleverghostchili I'll check the video again and consider the lenses you say, thank you!!
Dude can you just make a short film already? You're really good at this.
PS. I see you're using the XH2s. Looks much better than I thought. Is it supported in ACES?
this video was completely shot on the Sigma FP, I use fujifilm only for photography now, but i will revisit in the summer when flog2 is supported natively in Davinci. I personally think fujifilm is the best camera when it comes to film emulation particularly kodak and fujifilm film stocks. I think in the summer there could be ACES support, need to wait for the update
No way 😂 I really thought it was the xh2s. You manage to make both cameras look almost equally good
Is it just me or does the sigma fp have dynamic range comparable to the full frame sonys?
@@shueibdahir That's likely more the Zeiss Otus look, which i use for all my cameras. I put the technical specs at the end of the video. You know, the dynamic range feels oddly good, but all test results say it's like 12 or 12.5 stops. I can't say for certain, but it feels like 13 or maybe more, it's very impressive
@@cleverghostchili I have a slight suspicion it's a bit over 13 stops total with 11 being somewhat clean.
By the way how's the sigma in dc crop mode? Does the lowlight capability become worse with crop sensor lenses? I might buy it within the next 6 lonths
@@shueibdahir It is sharper as it is 1:1 pixel readout. To be honest, I think i prefer the softer rendering of full frame, which has some downsampling going on, but looks great. I'm not sure, but I think the lowlight capabilties should be similar, it depends on the glass, t1.4 is t1.4 right
0:43 that 4:3 is not 4:3 o_o
(edit) 1:25 that "3:2" is actually 4:3
I just checked, you are correct esp the taller formats, luckily they are consistently inaccurate so they are compared relatively correctly. i have updated the descriptions and apologies
Have you tried 1.618 the golden rectangle? I want to play with it but no camera seems to support it natively for composing.
So this video is 16:10, which is 1.6. It’s not a native camera resolution so I had to crop to get this aspect ratio, I think I prefer a little more letterboxing to direct the focus a bit more
Cinema is a language. Asking which aspect ratio is more cinematic is like asking if using a type of punctuation rather than another makes a text more ‘literary’.
It’s not about seeming cinematic but rather being cinematic.
Yes and no, aspect ratio can change your perspective as much as the focal length of a lens
One type of punctuation rather than another can make a significant difference in a literary text
Let’s eat grandpa
@@m.i.andersen8167Exactly. Bro thought he made the perfect point. If you're at a point in filmmaking where you're looking to enhance your video via different aspect ratios, I'm sure (and would hope) you already know the fundamental principles of what makes a good shot. Deciding on aspect ratios and composing your shots for it is just the little cherry on top stylistically. A more square aspect ratio will likely be more intimate and use a lot of symmetrical composition, whereas a wider one will help you frame things better on each third.
@@ohgeezus_ When I started, only very few could choose the aspect ratio themselves, and even they were not allowed to let important things happen to far from the center of the (wide) frame as it had to be cropped for TV. But as you say, it's always nice that we can now have a little cherry on top!
i love u
Love received
Great job