055 Infrared radiant tube heater in pole barn, Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- In these two videos, my brother and I install a radiant tube heater in my pole barn. It is a low clearance model made by Canadian company, Superior Radiant Products. Works well for my 12’ tall building.
how's it performing five years later??
For that size shop and low ceiling you could have gone with half of what you did. Is it sweating you out?
No, it actually works and cycles perfectly. I keep temp at 65F all year. Shop is 32x60x12 with two 10x16 overhead doors.
@@LivingOurAmericanDream So you ended up blowing insulation in afterwards or just let it go uninsulated? That heater is a monster.
Insulated in attic with 12” of blown in.
In this particular heating scenario, the walls only have 1-1/2” insulation and those large doors same or less from the factory. The 5” concrete floor has no insulation or barrier below it. The heater is 100k btuh. It’s not as large as you think and certainly not oversized. If we ran heat loss calculations we would probably see a need for a larger unit if forced air. Radiant with a 5” slab works very well. In moderate outdoor temps between 25F and up to set point (65F), cycle times are 25-30 minutes and up. When outdoor temps drop less than that and even below zero, the heater still keeps up but with much more frequent and longer cycle times.
Sounds like you have quite a bit of knowledge of heat loss, insulation, radiant heating, etc… This is my first and only application and I’ve been pretty pleased with it. Thanks for your feedback and for watching the channel.
Air intake does not need to be vented ? especially in a garage where fumes are often present?
Read your local code for requirements in your area. Mine has since been vented into the attic, not due to any issues, but because it’s quieter.
Nice job but probably should have put a six inch nipple in for a drip leg instead of the plug.
There’s actually a 4” nipple there.
Because if your video I bought this same brand. Just installed the tube last night. I think I messed up. I built a metal box for the head and then leveled out the hangers to the head. I can’t see it hurting anything but I better take it off. Dang it. Took an extra half hours to build. Nice videos. I have to figure out the gas line and I’ll be set.
Nice shop your a blessed man for being raised in such a family of skilled engineers
If you want top of the line, get a Vantage unit by Roberts Gordon. It is much quieter as the fan is on the interior. The overlaps on the reflector are too close. The expansion he spoke about will eventually pull those reflectors apart, even with screws through it, closer to the burner end. You don't want to mount your thermostat under or near the burner end. The difference in heat output at the burner end compared to the vent end is considerable. Your thermostat should be mounted near the middle of the heater for more accurate reading. Remember, radiant heat heats objects which in turn heat air. In this case it appears the stat is mounted directly inline to the hottest end of the tubing. Also, I don't know if this is the gas line that came with the unit but it appears to be rubber over copper. With expansion it can break. Use S.S. if possible. Also check to see if a copper line is legal for radiant heat in your area. I don't know if he spoke about grading but there should be a slight drop from the burner to the tube exit. When a system passes by approx. 130 degrees it creates moisture which should flow downhill and out. Grade approx. 1/2" per 20 feet. Mark Frister Systems Management NW LLC
Hi mark. Thanks for your comment. I’ve kept the shop at 65F for two years now. No broken or separated reflectors, no separated screws, no issues at all. The flex gas line is stainless. There is 1/2” drop from burner to exhaust end. I’ve been very pleased with this unit and it is the only one I’ve was able to find that specified lower clearances to combustibles. The RG unit looks to have 6” clearance from ceiling but still has 6 feet clearance to combustibles below compared to 30” as installed in my shop. The t-stat is not ideal but keeps a temperature variance in the building of 3F from burner end to exhaust end. Location was based on keeping off an exterior wall and not having to build a dedicated location for it. Great points to consider just thought I’d offer an update. Thanks, Matt.
Thanks for the video. Can you use any thermostat?
Yes you should be able to use any thermostat. Most thermostats nowadays have wiring connections for cooling, you just won’t use it.
Ever have any issues with the lights above the heater getting hot or melting? Thank you for the video.
Hi Joe. No I have not had any issues with that. The model heater I bought is advertised as low clearance meaning it can be mounted closer to things than most radiant heaters. Truthfully it appears to me that they simply extended the tube length and put a smaller burner on it. In my case 100k btu with a 50’ tube. Works well and I spend a lot of time out there now. Actually with covid I’ve been working from home and have set up an office in the shop. I keep it 65F and it’s comfortable for me. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the reply...I just put mine up and your video helped me!
You guys do nice work! How great to have heat in your shop.
Very nice! I've got a 30x40 insulated shop that's 16 ft high at the bottom of the truss. This would work perfect for it.
The extra height will definitely be a benefit if you go with infrared. I like the heater so far. It provides steady, quiet heat and does not require air flow so no filters to get clogged with dust from the shop.
re-verber-ray how to connect thermostat
Not sure where to hook the thermostat wire in side t the box
Nice job, I'll be installing a similar unit soon ( i hope). These seem to be a safe and highly efficient way of heating a shop!
It’s worked really well the first two years for my barn, 32x60x12. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Another thought....be sure you know what the clearances are for above, side and below your unit. I did a lot of research to find a low clearance model allowing me to mount it so close to the ceiling. Basically, best I can tell, it’s longer and less BTUs per foot. You’ll be happy with a system like this, I am.
What kind of thermostat did you use?
I used a simple “old fashioned” thermostat. It has a digital readout of the temp and setting but that’s all. I happened to have one set up for air conditioning but it’s just not hooked up obviously. Same functionality as the one at the link below:
www.homedepot.com/p/Honeywell-Home-Horizontal-Non-Programmable-Thermostat-with-Digital-Backlit-Display-RTHL111B1001-K1/309440676
Thanks for the video!
how long did it take to complete with 2 guys?
Hi Jeff. The heater install took my brother and I around 3-4 hours to install. I had previously ran the gas supply line into the building, so not counting that.
Hello please could you give the srp. Blower specifications and the model ??
Hi, sorry for the delay. The model I installed is made by Superior Radiant Products in Canada. It’s their model LA in the 100k btu at 50’ long. The link for the specs is below. Hope this helps.
www.superiorradiant.com/products/single-stage-infrared-tube-heaters/low-clearance/standard-low-even-heater
Oh yeah, this place is every man's wet dream,nice work.
If you think the puppy is quiet now, run your intake outside as well. That quiets them down a ton.
Thought about running the intake through the ceiling and into the attic space. Not sure if that is acceptable or not?
@@LivingOurAmericanDream I'm not sure "code" wise if that acceptable or not. But, they run a lot quieter and more efficiently when the intake is outside. They also don't create a negative pressure inside your building when the intake is outside.
Thanks for taking the time to make this informative video is it's fuel source propane or natural gas ?
Hi Tim. Our fuel source here is natural gas. One of the neatest parts of this project was running the gas line....I used my tractor and a “modified” implement to bury the line, very slick. I intend to do a video on this in the future. Thanks for watching.
Lots of good information, thank you for taking the time and filming the video. Question, why did you decide to go with the metal lining inside the shop? I just got a 40x60 shop built, and need to finish the inside. I've been seeing a lot of these shops with the metal lining, just curious as why people go with that option
I chose a metal ceiling for two reasons. First, the bright white color lights the shop up really well and it gives a nice clean finish. Second, my trusses are 4’ on center so if I were to go with OSB or wood, I would have had to build in framing so the sheets would not sag, more like 2’ on center. With the steel, I also have 12” of blown in insulation up there and no sagging. Thanks for watching and good luck!
How big is your barn
It’s 32x60x12.
With 12’ ceilings how hot is it directly under the heater. I am told it can be very hot and I have vehicles in my shop.
I park my wrangler, tractor and UTV under it directly. I bought a model that is rated as low profile, meaning the clearance to combustibles is less. If I recall this unit is 100k BTU and is 50’ long. Works really well in my building.
Thank you , great advice appreciate it.
wanted to say nice video well made .your son marc looks to be a good worker.dont know where you live but how is it to run does it cost a lot to maytain temp in building. would love to see how it looks on the outside wall
Hi there and thanks for watching our channel! Marc and both his siblings are good helpers on our projects around here. I actually did a little math in building hearing costs this past month and it was around $70 to maintain 55F in there. I’ll get some videos in the spring of the entire farm. We live in mid Michigan. Where are you located?
thanks for getting back o me im in nwnj it was -2 this morning so it gets cold here.i just built a 24 x 50 pole barn and looking to see how to heat it.looking forward to more videos
@@LivingOurAmericanDream I live in Fenton MI if you know where that's at. Can I call you to pick your brain on this unit?
Sure. I’ll try to figure out how to do a private message and send you a way to contact me.
@@LivingOurAmericanDream awesome! Thanks!