I think the reason why people thinks Froch is an hater is the consistency of AJ criticism plus the level of details he's willing to go into to make us realise AJ has achieved nothing in boxing. Froch will briefly criticise other fighters but level of depth Carl is willing to go in when it comes to AJ always comes across like he's bitter. Like deadly bitter. Legacy or no legacy - it'll take some time for UK for a find our next boxing star that'll capture the imagination of youths, casuals , women and grandmother. That's what AJ has done for British boxing. All this boxing podcasts, RUclips boxing came at the back of growth of boxing booming in AJ's era. Whenever this type of conversations keeps coming up, let's leave ego out and put fair balance into things
I think your comment is perfectly fair. I have a feeling that extra level that Carl goes into when discussing AJ (as you pointed out) is mostly due to his (Carl’s) loyalty to Rob McCracken. Ever since AJ separated from Rob it seems Carl has had an extra gear when discussing AJ.
Well said man - he talks about wilder like he’s a true warrior in comparison- when he’s resume is terrible - definitely a hater - and Aj brought back British boxing - his legacy is secure
Agree. I like Carl, and AJ might not be a favourite of mine, but AJ doesn't deserve this constant needling and picking apart. Especially when he's showing he has the guts to try to get back up there.
A gold medalist going on to become a two time unified champion whilst beating two other gold medalists along the way doesn't sound like an over achievement to me. Sounds feasible!
One thing you guys don't understand by now is that Froch is using AJ's name to become a TV Popular because he has to hate AJ to earn money and that is the fact here
Froch overachieved and did brilliantly, proper warrior - especially with his limited technical ability. He'll go down as a great British Boxer but AJ will go down as an absolute superstar of World sport.
Completely agree. I loved watching Froch fight and supported him every time. But AJ is one of the very very few who will trascend their chosen sport and move into much bigger things. He has built a brand. It's insane to think AJ has overachieved.
I’ve been watching boxing for over 60yrs and whilst AJ is not at the same level as some of the past greats, he definitely put British boxing back on the global stage and brought back great excitement to boxing in the uk for a while after he turned pro. This is his legacy for me and I believe many fighters and fans alike, a great ambassador for the sport too. Although Carl Froch was a very good fighter, let’s be honest, nobody likes a big-head do they! 🥊
AJs legacy in not finished yet, why do these conversations even happen. Carl should know better and Simon doesn't know much about boxing history lets face it. AJ is trying to improve and will win his way to another World Title or more.
There is too much to unpack here, but honestly, It is cringe listening to the amount of assumptions, false narratives and gynastics comparing legacies. Froch assuming what AJ has gone through in life, why bother making a point when you have no idea. Saying AJ has overacheived, how exactly? He's the only one who went belt collecting and won and the only one missing was the wbc and the pbc held it hostage. Jordan saying AJ is a two time and froch is 4? What is he on about? He's counting frochs belts he's had in his career? In that case AJ got 3 of the belts separately, lost them then regained them. Froch bringing up the wlad win and he was out for 18months or whatever it is, yes and during that time Wlad had two training camps because Fury pulled out twice. They talk of Parker and Froch says "yes but was he a all time great"??? Lol who is a all time great on Frochs resume? Then they bring Wilder... honestly have any of these two ever looked at Wilder's resume? If they did they wouldn't be talking. Froch brings up his close loss to dirrell, yes i watched it and everyone knows you lost that fight and it was a blatent gift decision to the home fighter, it wasnt even close. Now having said all that, i like frochs career, but stop all the nonsense talk.
Both Simon and froch have always been aj haters aj full stop has the best resume of any heavyweight out there froch would love to have achieved what aj has
Behave, Parker was a paper champ as was Martin and the WBA was literally a vacant title. What is his best win? Ward was p4p better than Usyk and he spanked AJ twice. If Ward was 30-40 lbs naturally bigger he would have beaten Usyk.
@@twentytimes6502 says you. He wouldn’t of done anything with those t-Rex arms Usyk is an elite fighter. So was ward but let’s not act like ward wasn’t gifted a decision against kovalev in the 1st fight.
@@twentytimes6502 LOL paper champion, what about bute the biggest paper champion, Froch also beat a past it Kessler who retired after the fight and Jermaine Taylor a career middleweight who is chinny but gave Froch hell, don't fall for the marketing look up who the likes of groves picked up belt against
@@chrisb-m5203 Ward is a very dirty fighter. Pretty obvious Dubois tried to mimic Ward's tactics vs Kovalev when he fought Usyk. Good fighter but a shithouse.
Aj fought klitschko 2 years after fury, I think everyone forgets that. Yes fury was a better win in terms of performance but aj was raw and young. People speak about how klitschko was a much better fighter against fury than aj. He was either past it in both fights or ajs win was just as impressive. The 2 year gap that people use to justify the disrespect aj gets and credit fury gets is just weird to me
AJ is overrated, that's it. He's been hyped up by the media. Fury gets credit because he has beat Wilder twice, a boxer that was previously unbeaten in 43 fights with 42 knockouts.
@@solom465 He was still considered very dangerous, many fighters have thought bums, they've not been able to knock them all out though, that's the difference. I don't personally rate Wilder, and after that showing against Parker he should probably retire.
The Cobra's views aren't always balanced. If he'd have fought decent fighters: Calzaghe, Benn, Eubank, Morrison, Jones, you can talk about legacys' and years to come people will still be talking about AJ, fact!!! You can only beat the fighters that are put in front of you, which is what AJ has always tried to do.
Froch fought the best fighters in his division and often went overseas to do it. What more do you expect him to do? You can't criticize him for not fighting the people you listed, they had mostly retired or were over the hill by the time he was at world level.
Nobody cared about the Degale fight and his career went nowhere anyway. Golovkin fight would have been interesting, but he fought in a different weight class, no way Froch could make middle weight unless Golovkin came up a division. Stevenson fought in the division above for most of that time. I don't know why he didn't rematch Ward but at least he fought him. Froch fought the best in his division out there at the time.
@@chestercopperpot4455 stop it, degale became world champion after Froch ducked him and fought against the best in the division and got a draw(badou). he simply ducked GGG he had no problem fighting a shot Taylor who was a career middleweight . he ducked Stevenson so bad he moved up in weight. ducked Ward when he asked for the rematch, how can someone beat you and ask for a rematch and you decline smh
Love Froch on Fighting and always appreciate The Cobra’s directness. However, it does seem that he is carrying a grudge against AJ largely due to AJ’s perceived treatment of Rob McCracken. Not saying his comments about AJ are contentless but it does seem that Carl’s loyalty to Rob has given him some extra “needle” towards AJ.
AJ's "legacy" isn't finished yet. If he beats Wilder in style and Fury Loses to Usyk right away his record is better than Fury's for a start! But his Legacy is turning his life Round winning a gold medal and being a 2 time unified world champion while taking boxing to new heights in Britain! Not shabby at all!
No british heavyweight has achieved what AJ did in his first 20 fights...never ducked anyone,8 title defences ect ect. Froch has a serious obsession with AJ..god knows why. Fury's record is a joke,he hand picks his opponents. AJ fought a well up for it Klitschko, revenged his defeat to Ruiz and fought Usyk when Usyk was in his prime. Usyk isn't in his prime anymore,and Fury knows it. Fury has had the easy run of fights over the last couple of years, including Wilder.
GLAZKOV was the guy injured vs charles martin gifting him the vacant title by default, from Ukraine i believe , decent prospect but very small. Szpilka was polish and more accomplished but also small and undersized at hw.
Honestly I think it's complete lunacy to say AJ has overachieved. Regardless of what way you look at it, to become Heavyweight champion of the world, lose your titles in embarrassing fashion and then have the stones to get back onto your feet and go again to regain your lost titles says A LOT about a character. Fair play AJ. It isn't his fault he came into an era of some of the most skilled Heavyweights there has ever been. Fury and Usyk are insane. But give AJ some credit, he reached the pinnacle and has forged an amazing brand for himself.
Are you kidding this era in boxing couldnt compete with the 90's era. Talking out of your arse man. He managed to get knocked out by a fat mexican and only beat him in the rematch cause he played safe and Ruiz had way too many burrito's. Look at who he fought an over the hill Klit then a succesion of nobody's and once he fought fatty who can bang he got found out then usyk completely schooled him not once but twice!!!!!! What makes you think after all that that he can beat Wilder. If usyk can nearly knock him out what the fuck do you think Wilder is going to do lol Man you people live in a dreamland
You can't just go in there and have an outer body experience that isn't actually an outer body experience if you aim to slug with Wilder or any other fighter in the heavyweight division carl, someone is going lights out. Considering what's on the line, why would AJ be that reckless. We all love the 80's and 90's heavyweight battles, but there's not one of those guys that can speak normally now or when they retired.
Alas wasn’t sat on the sofa for 18 months, he actually went through 2 camps for the fury rematches that never happened so was absolutely not inactive. He was also only out for 17 months.
You're correct. Haters choose to ignore details that don't meet their narrative. Moral of the story is don't over shadow Frochs event at Wembley then later sack his old coach 😂
Agreed on AJ, but not Fury. Fury beat reigning champ Wlad in Germany, and then went on to face the most feared puncher in the division who was unbeaten and in his prime, in his backyard. You can't then diminish the tactics used because Wilder is not a big heavyweight, but then regard 6foot 2 Ali as an all-time great. Wllder was reigning WBC champ. If he beats Usyk, there's nobody else that's a genuine contender. He'll beat Zhang or AJ but everyone will say they were past their best.
@@fusion454he was reigning heavyweight champ. 39 or whatever, he outpointed him, won convincingly. As to whether or not he was on peds..innocent until proven guilty. He’s unbeaten and once he beats Usyk there will be nobody else in the division to beat. His legacy will certainly be better than Froch’s(!)
@@AliHussain-fz7pd lol wlad time was coming he was getting too old I give credit but that win is very overrated, what do you mean innocent until proven guilty, do your research Fury was convited for peds and given a two-year ban. uysk beats Fury for my money. I agree he already has a better legacy than Froch.
Froch got a cheek. At least AJ got back in with the fighters he lost to unlike Froch who ran from the Ward rematch cuz he got schooled. AJ has already surpassed Froch ffs 🙄
anthony joshua revied the whole boxing scene, now he has lost the hunger but this guy said lennox lewis was less than holyfield and bowe. now here we go again
Who has froch beaten .calzaghe was at his end so the fight never happened.the one true worls class fighter he fought he lost too badly andre ward.in my opinion froch has no legacy please tell me carl how u have a better legacy than AJ i cant see it.for thevlast 6 yrsu have just been jealoua
Stop it Carl Froch still go on about you you of course Joshua is got a legacy of course Fury got a legacy The best to heavyweights in the last 10 years and fury is still undefeated 🤫🤫🤫🤫
The minute Joshua split with McCracken & then dared to criticise some of his training techniques…. Froch came gunning for him in every single interview since!!!
There is no way someone can tell me that guy called Froch or what his name is again oh yes Mr Hater. Swear down, Froch is smoking weed or weed is smoking him before the interview
So who did wilder beat until he fought fury these guy hold. AJ to. A way different standard than the other heavyweights and it's all jealousy because of how much money he has made
Carl Froch brings his super- middleweight mentality to the Heavyweight division. Had he been a heavyweight he’d have found himself in a wheelchair ♿️ 100% easy to have granite chin as a middleweight. Not so easy as a heavyweight, just ask Joe Joyce.
Wise words from Carl - one of the great British fighters. AJ should beat Dubois on Saturday, which I guess in the scheme of things won't do much for his boxing legacy; it'll just put a win in the win column of his record. Carl's looking and sounding sharp, which is good to see; a good short, punchy interview.
Cannot believe it, you actually mentioned Lenox Lewis … I’m amazed… LL would WALK through this division WITHOUT taking a coffee break … and as for TF he would not last three rounds with LL …. One of THE GREATEST HW EVER ….?? ALL this BS around AJ and TF …. Get in the bloody ring and PROVE who is the best as LL did throughout this career …..
Froch mate your SOOOO JELOUS of aj. Just because him and rob McCracken have got more of a closeness than you had with him. He’s achieved more in his career than you have in your whole career, and guess what, he’s still in his career, still achieving. And this new phase aj is In he will ko them all
I don't understand this constant knocking of AJ, it's not like he's coming out mouthing off about his legacy? AJ has weaknesses, he's struggling to get back up there, leave him alone for a while, FFS.
Just one last thing you know Carl , you keep on about Ruiz beating AJ yes AJ got beat by the late replacement Ruiz , by the way if that had of happened to Fury there would have been no fight that day !! But let's not forget boys AJ came back and boxed the head off Ruiz , completely shut him out , like you Carl should have done to Kessler second time around, REMEMBER CALZAGHE beat him in his POMP Carl !! What would Calzaghe have done with you ?? Oh dear 😳 😱 Best leave the chit chat lads 😜
CF needs to give his honest opinion on Fury too. More than he has, Outside of the John Fury rubbish Froch says out loud what Porky Russ says in his videos.
I don't understand AJ fans. I like him as a person, but he lost his way in the ring. I give him credit for the Klitschko fight, but he lost the desire he had back then. No idea what the health issue was before the first Andy Ruiz fight, but he's never seemed the same since then. I get strong Audley Harrison vibes from him now, still talks a good fight, but can't produce it in the ring. I hope he proves me wrong, but that's the way I see it.
😂😂😂 the Guy who defended with his face using his nose to block punches says the Olympic Gold medalist overachieved? Lets be honest here, Froch is a HOF only known in Nottingham where as AJ will be the HOF whi was known globally. Froch the clown needs to wind his neck in
Watching these two clowns whinge about AJ, again is sooo old. Carl Froch is so over rated....His assesment of AJ's career is just off base. AJ holds winds over a young hungry J Parker & D Whyte, two boxers years later other boxers are claiming as great victories to achieve. He finished off a highly competitive Povetkin, an effective Pulev. Froch's comments about Charles Martin are so hollow, he had the tittle, who else was AJ supposed to fight? Say what you want, Martin has had some good matches, but AJ was given food, and ate it in 2 rounds...isn't that enough? He lost to Ruiz, then beat him solidly, ask yourself, if Ruiz was an easy opponent why didn't anybody else of note fight him for a noteworthy victory. I am not an AJ super fan, but give him credit...he offered Wilder 120 million & Tyson a huge Saudi deal, they both declined....
Froch is marmite. Sometimes I really like him for his outspoken no bs opinions, and other times I think he is a mega ego diva who has a over inflated opinion of his own worth.
Whhen you get floored by stan Laurer after being cryogenically defrosted for the occasion,well, that's beyond 3 hip,hips,even if you are a new breed if fighter.. .....
I don't get all these AJ criticisms; poor fella. Nothing he can do is ever right; listening to Simon talk about Aj is like, goodness me!!!! Indeed, you must have other topics for discussion. Simon asks Froch questions about AJ, knowing what the answers will be.
AJ left Rob Mccracken (Froch's trainer) as Mccrackens advice "relax, relax" was not only useless but damaging. Anyway this is why Froch is sour because AJ wasn't "loyal" to Mccracken. Plus Froch is just a jealous boy.
Joshua lives rent free in Froch's head. How Does Joshua beat Wilder or Fury, when they're both running from him ? Froch was a decent fighter who lost to Ward and is now a green with envy trolling monster.
I don't think any of the current heavyweights can claim a legacy. Aside from Usyk, the division is just a combination of average Joes, failed American footballers and ex-nightclub doormen.
AJ is not remotely close to being talked of as a great heavyweight. AJ has believed the hype that was directed his way. He beat a past peak Klitchko who was on his way out of the sport. Ruiz found AJ out. Fury with a belly would beat AJ. Wilder would smash AJ. AJ is a body builder trying to be a boxer!
Froch mentions beating Kessler after he initially lost to hin as part of his legacy. But continuously slatess AJ for losing to Ruiz despite him being a later replacement that he didnt prepare for and also AJ beat Ruiz in the rematch. Same situation good for Frochs legacy but awful for AJ. Its getting a bit foolish now..
Joshua by far will leave a better Legacy. He is the only reason boxing got to be here to the level it is today. Fury and Wilder had been pros for a long time prior to AJs arrival, what did they do for the sport? The guy is unified 2 time world champion, the most followed boxer in the world, having filled arenas all over the country. Froch needs to be humbled.
Apart from Wilder, tell me which top level fighter was available for AJ to fight between Dillian Whyte and Ruiz. AJ has a better roster than Fury and Wilder.
What has wilder done 40 taxi drivers no one in top ten in 40 fights is shameful while AJ was clearing out the division he fought everyone and fury and wilder ducked him dont forget that wilder turned down offers and tyson giving crazy time schedules
Another day Another Froch interview when he talks about Aj his obsession is unbelievable he must be desperate for money as he keeps trying to make headlines and talk about Aj its every single interview and it's boring we get his feelings are hurt because Aj got rid of his hero McCracken but he needs to seriously talk about something else because his bitterness is boring everyone now
I agree with Froch AJ has over achieved had he been active back in the 80s he would never have won the British title and that is down to his lack of amateur experience.
Froch greatest victory is against a old outdated Kessler & 1 dimensional Bute. AJ did smethin froch never did which was be a superstar & made alot of money. Andre ward schooled him to the point he tries to erase that memory from fans minds
Carl Froch is right AJ has over achieved however he was never unified champion. He is upset that AJ has had half a career and made 10x the amount of money.
Your moneing saying that aj was gifted the belts, that is absolutely stupid Aj fought the people who had the belts it’s not hes fault that Parker and Martin had the belts, what is he ment to do wait until someone credible twin the belts, then fight them but what happens if they are the same level fighters atgô
I like froch but fckme what a hater, aj, khan, calzaghe.. Anyone who may have had a better career he hates them, ward made him look like great boxer froch was.
Well this man knows more than me he has Been their wore the te shirt. I can only admire him and accept his acessment as accurate he knows what he is talking . About.
I think carls found AJ DMs in his missus phone in the past given the energy towards him 😂😂😂
Fr 😂😂
His tanned son now has an Afro and he’s 6’6” at 14 and Froch has lost it 😂
The persona hate is getting petty now. Grow up Froch, stop with the salt.
Has AJ been with your missus or something Carl fella ??
Carl fella? 😂Were you drunk when ya wrote this?
@@Misterr-T what’s it got to do with you 🫣
I think the reason why people thinks Froch is an hater is the consistency of AJ criticism plus the level of details he's willing to go into to make us realise AJ has achieved nothing in boxing.
Froch will briefly criticise other fighters but level of depth Carl is willing to go in when it comes to AJ always comes across like he's bitter. Like deadly bitter.
Legacy or no legacy - it'll take some time for UK for a find our next boxing star that'll capture the imagination of youths, casuals , women and grandmother.
That's what AJ has done for British boxing.
All this boxing podcasts, RUclips boxing came at the back of growth of boxing booming in AJ's era.
Whenever this type of conversations keeps coming up, let's leave ego out and put fair balance into things
He is bitter; he never achieved what AJ accomplished in boxing.
I think your comment is perfectly fair. I have a feeling that extra level that Carl goes into when discussing AJ (as you pointed out) is mostly due to his (Carl’s) loyalty to Rob McCracken. Ever since AJ separated from Rob it seems Carl has had an extra gear when discussing AJ.
Well said man - he talks about wilder like he’s a true warrior in comparison- when he’s resume is terrible - definitely a hater - and Aj brought back British boxing - his legacy is secure
Agree. I like Carl, and AJ might not be a favourite of mine, but AJ doesn't deserve this constant needling and picking apart. Especially when he's showing he has the guts to try to get back up there.
100% agree
A gold medalist going on to become a two time unified champion whilst beating two other gold medalists along the way doesn't sound like an over achievement to me. Sounds feasible!
fake gold medal, a career of waiting for people to age or get early stoppages
they're hating because no UK boxer has earned as much as AJ
@@fusion454Fury has held all the belts, AJ hasn't.
That doesn’t mean anything as he’s not holding all the belts at the same Time @@VCanisMajorisY
@@VCanisMajorisY what's that got to do with what I just said?
Seriously . Im not even an AJ fan but Froch has really put me off him. He’s like OBSESSED with the lad!!
One thing you guys don't understand by now is that Froch is using AJ's name to become a TV Popular because he has to hate AJ to earn money and that is the fact here
@@SeanPittaway-lb9bg that was banter and John Fury is a 🛎️🔚
Froch overachieved and did brilliantly, proper warrior - especially with his limited technical ability. He'll go down as a great British Boxer but AJ will go down as an absolute superstar of World sport.
you should be a comedian 🤣🤣🤣
Aj will always be remembered world wide. Froch will only be remembered by a select few people
absolute bollocks give over will ya 😢
Completely agree. I loved watching Froch fight and supported him every time. But AJ is one of the very very few who will trascend their chosen sport and move into much bigger things. He has built a brand. It's insane to think AJ has overachieved.
Froch....mega superstar In his weight....how can any one say he isn't in AJ's level is talking bollox....this man is a superstar
I’ve been watching boxing for over 60yrs and whilst AJ is not at the same level as some of the past greats, he definitely put British boxing back on the global stage and brought back great excitement to boxing in the uk for a while after he turned pro. This is his legacy for me and I believe many fighters and fans alike, a great ambassador for the sport too. Although Carl Froch was a very good fighter, let’s be honest, nobody likes a big-head do they! 🥊
AJ isn't a dignified loser, completely embarrassed himself after the Usyk fight, so I wouldn't say that's being a "great ambassador" for the sport.
No body likes a truth teller, more like
Mugs……….
AJs legacy in not finished yet, why do these conversations even happen. Carl should know better and Simon doesn't know much about boxing history lets face it. AJ is trying to improve and will win his way to another World Title or more.
Spot on comment discuss legacy's once a careers done!
@@ee11000 3 years ago all AJ talked about was his legacy.
This guy hates AJ with a passion 😂
At this point it’s just pure hate from Froch. Like it or not, AJ will go down as a superstar in British boxing history. He made boxing big again.
Please tell them loud and clear and may God bless you more and more
It's pure fact
There is too much to unpack here, but honestly, It is cringe listening to the amount of assumptions, false narratives and gynastics comparing legacies. Froch assuming what AJ has gone through in life, why bother making a point when you have no idea.
Saying AJ has overacheived, how exactly? He's the only one who went belt collecting and won and the only one missing was the wbc and the pbc held it hostage.
Jordan saying AJ is a two time and froch is 4? What is he on about? He's counting frochs belts he's had in his career? In that case AJ got 3 of the belts separately, lost them then regained them.
Froch bringing up the wlad win and he was out for 18months or whatever it is, yes and during that time Wlad had two training camps because Fury pulled out twice.
They talk of Parker and Froch says "yes but was he a all time great"??? Lol who is a all time great on Frochs resume?
Then they bring Wilder... honestly have any of these two ever looked at Wilder's resume? If they did they wouldn't be talking.
Froch brings up his close loss to dirrell, yes i watched it and everyone knows you lost that fight and it was a blatent gift decision to the home fighter, it wasnt even close.
Now having said all that, i like frochs career, but stop all the nonsense talk.
Starting to think Frosch walked in on his missus with a vibrator and an AJ calendar. This is a disproportionate amount of criticism.
Truth hurts...AJ is not elite.
Both Simon and froch have always been aj haters aj full stop has the best resume of any heavyweight out there froch would love to have achieved what aj has
Despite being only in 1 division, Joshua still won more titles than Froch.
Behave, Parker was a paper champ as was Martin and the WBA was literally a vacant title. What is his best win? Ward was p4p better than Usyk and he spanked AJ twice. If Ward was 30-40 lbs naturally bigger he would have beaten Usyk.
@@twentytimes6502 says you. He wouldn’t of done anything with those t-Rex arms Usyk is an elite fighter. So was ward but let’s not act like ward wasn’t gifted a decision against kovalev in the 1st fight.
@@twentytimes6502 LOL paper champion, what about bute the biggest paper champion, Froch also beat a past it Kessler who retired after the fight and Jermaine Taylor a career middleweight who is chinny but gave Froch hell, don't fall for the marketing look up who the likes of groves picked up belt against
@@chrisb-m5203
Ward is a very dirty fighter. Pretty obvious Dubois tried to mimic Ward's tactics vs Kovalev when he fought Usyk. Good fighter but a shithouse.
Really???? Froch 4 time World champion Your Boyfriend is a 2 time champ Your maths is shocking
Aj fought klitschko 2 years after fury, I think everyone forgets that. Yes fury was a better win in terms of performance but aj was raw and young. People speak about how klitschko was a much better fighter against fury than aj. He was either past it in both fights or ajs win was just as impressive. The 2 year gap that people use to justify the disrespect aj gets and credit fury gets is just weird to me
AJ is overrated, that's it. He's been hyped up by the media. Fury gets credit because he has beat Wilder twice, a boxer that was previously unbeaten in 43 fights with 42 knockouts.
@@dandyintheunderworld9972 Wilder beat 1 fringe top 10 fighter in all those fights.
@@solom465 He was still considered very dangerous, many fighters have thought bums, they've not been able to knock them all out though, that's the difference. I don't personally rate Wilder, and after that showing against Parker he should probably retire.
The Cobra's views aren't always balanced. If he'd have fought decent fighters: Calzaghe, Benn, Eubank, Morrison, Jones, you can talk about legacys' and years to come people will still be talking about AJ, fact!!! You can only beat the fighters that are put in front of you, which is what AJ has always tried to do.
He hasn’t fought Wilder or Fury unfortunately. Which is down to all of them not just AJ.
Froch fought the best fighters in his division and often went overseas to do it. What more do you expect him to do? You can't criticize him for not fighting the people you listed, they had mostly retired or were over the hill by the time he was at world level.
@@chestercopperpot4455 That is not true why didn't he fight Ward Rematch GGG, Stevenson his Mandatory Degale
Nobody cared about the Degale fight and his career went nowhere anyway. Golovkin fight would have been interesting, but he fought in a different weight class, no way Froch could make middle weight unless Golovkin came up a division. Stevenson fought in the division above for most of that time. I don't know why he didn't rematch Ward but at least he fought him. Froch fought the best in his division out there at the time.
@@chestercopperpot4455 stop it, degale became world champion after Froch ducked him and fought against the best in the division and got a draw(badou). he simply ducked GGG he had no problem fighting a shot Taylor who was a career middleweight . he ducked Stevenson so bad he moved up in weight. ducked Ward when he asked for the rematch, how can someone beat you and ask for a rematch and you decline smh
no one outside of boxing knows froch lol but they do know anthony joshua..froch is just a jealous little toad.
Love Froch on Fighting and always appreciate The Cobra’s directness. However, it does seem that he is carrying a grudge against AJ largely due to AJ’s perceived treatment of Rob McCracken. Not saying his comments about AJ are contentless but it does seem that Carl’s loyalty to Rob has given him some extra “needle” towards AJ.
I like Froch but he was asked about Fury he started moaning about AJ again.
AJ's "legacy" isn't finished yet. If he beats Wilder in style and Fury Loses to Usyk right away his record is better than Fury's for a start! But his Legacy is turning his life Round winning a gold medal and being a 2 time unified world champion while taking boxing to new heights in Britain! Not shabby at all!
Yeah IF IF IF its a very big IF. You AJ fanboys are deluded. He's a modern day Frank Bruno.
@@robjanko-d3jtriggered😂😂😂😂
@@robjanko-d3jI think Bruno beats AJ, you?
@@DJR1409 I think your right Bruno def had more heart in the fight
The hate for just one man aj 😅 is hilarious 😂 😅😂 just one man
Carl is a breath of fresh air in boxing as a pundit.. zero bs just tells it how it is
He's no Carlos Frampton
He’s ridiculously deluded
No british heavyweight has achieved what AJ did in his first 20 fights...never ducked anyone,8 title defences ect ect.
Froch has a serious obsession with AJ..god knows why.
Fury's record is a joke,he hand picks his opponents.
AJ fought a well up for it Klitschko, revenged his defeat to Ruiz and fought Usyk when Usyk was in his prime.
Usyk isn't in his prime anymore,and Fury knows it.
Fury has had the easy run of fights over the last couple of years, including Wilder.
I love Carl, but his views on AJ are biased because of how AJ broke away from McCracken, but Froch has a better legacy
Did you ever see Fury's fight against Steve Cunningham?@@DL_UK
@@DL_UKthat comment is nonsense.. 😅
@@DL_UKstop talking shit. Froch got lucky wins also. Groves 1 and Dirrell beat him at home but got the decision.
GLAZKOV was the guy injured vs charles martin gifting him the vacant title by default, from Ukraine i believe , decent prospect but very small. Szpilka was polish and more accomplished but also small and undersized at hw.
Honestly I think it's complete lunacy to say AJ has overachieved. Regardless of what way you look at it, to become Heavyweight champion of the world, lose your titles in embarrassing fashion and then have the stones to get back onto your feet and go again to regain your lost titles says A LOT about a character. Fair play AJ. It isn't his fault he came into an era of some of the most skilled Heavyweights there has ever been. Fury and Usyk are insane. But give AJ some credit, he reached the pinnacle and has forged an amazing brand for himself.
Lol
He has.
Are you kidding this era in boxing couldnt compete with the 90's era. Talking out of your arse man. He managed to get knocked out by a fat mexican and only beat him in the rematch cause he played safe and Ruiz had way too many burrito's. Look at who he fought an over the hill Klit then a succesion of nobody's and once he fought fatty who can bang he got found out then usyk completely schooled him not once but twice!!!!!! What makes you think after all that that he can beat Wilder. If usyk can nearly knock him out what the fuck do you think Wilder is going to do lol Man you people live in a dreamland
Can’t disagree with anything froch said .
Bitter that AJ dumped his best mate
I think AJ nailed Froch’ missus , that’s why he has it in for AJ 😂😂😂
This interview highlights why Carl's YT channel is so popular... He just tells it like it is... Honest, knowledgeable and a bloody nice bloke.
Shades of Tim nice but dim
@@kid--presentable Says the bloke whos name sounds like a rent boy
@@robjanko-d3j im sure I wouldn't know about rentboys so I am afraid you have the advantage on me there
😂😂😂coz he is hating on the person you hate
How can he hate women? His mums one
All Froch speaks about is AJ he use to do the same with calzaghe
You can't just go in there and have an outer body experience that isn't actually an outer body experience if you aim to slug with Wilder or any other fighter in the heavyweight division carl, someone is going lights out. Considering what's on the line, why would AJ be that reckless. We all love the 80's and 90's heavyweight battles, but there's not one of those guys that can speak normally now or when they retired.
Alas wasn’t sat on the sofa for 18 months, he actually went through 2 camps for the fury rematches that never happened so was absolutely not inactive. He was also only out for 17 months.
You're correct. Haters choose to ignore details that don't meet their narrative. Moral of the story is don't over shadow Frochs event at Wembley then later sack his old coach 😂
Agreed on AJ, but not Fury. Fury beat reigning champ Wlad in Germany, and then went on to face the most feared puncher in the division who was unbeaten and in his prime, in his backyard. You can't then diminish the tactics used because Wilder is not a big heavyweight, but then regard 6foot 2 Ali as an all-time great. Wllder was reigning WBC champ. If he beats Usyk, there's nobody else that's a genuine contender. He'll beat Zhang or AJ but everyone will say they were past their best.
LOL wlad was 39 years old when he fought Fury nearly 40, fury was on peds also hence why the rematch didn't happen let's not rewrite history
@@fusion454he was reigning heavyweight champ. 39 or whatever, he outpointed him, won convincingly. As to whether or not he was on peds..innocent until proven guilty. He’s unbeaten and once he beats Usyk there will be nobody else in the division to beat. His legacy will certainly be better than Froch’s(!)
@@AliHussain-fz7pd lol wlad time was coming he was getting too old I give credit but that win is very overrated, what do you mean innocent until proven guilty, do your research Fury was convited for peds and given a two-year ban. uysk beats Fury for my money. I agree he already has a better legacy than Froch.
AJ has the best record over all the heavy weights. Period. 12 title defenses. Yes he is a bit gum shy atm but he is the best of his era
He's a shell of his past self. USELESS!
He beat mostly bums
HHe hasn't beaten an elite HW yet at their peak though has he?
Froch would rather have his legacy than 2x heavyweight champion of the world, Olympic gold medal and biggest British earner of all time? Cool
Froch got a cheek. At least AJ got back in with the fighters he lost to unlike Froch who ran from the Ward rematch cuz he got schooled. AJ has already surpassed Froch ffs 🙄
Froch is bitter about the way AJ sacked his friend Robert McCracken.
Carl froch was in brilliant fights to watch always really entertaining
anthony joshua revied the whole boxing scene, now he has lost the hunger but this guy said lennox lewis was less than holyfield and bowe.
now here we go again
Swear down, Froch he's smoking weed or weed is smoking him before the interview
Lol frochs a plum my favorite part of his career is when andre ward took the mf to school 😂😂😂
Who has froch beaten .calzaghe was at his end so the fight never happened.the one true worls class fighter he fought he lost too badly andre ward.in my opinion froch has no legacy please tell me carl how u have a better legacy than AJ i cant see it.for thevlast 6 yrsu have just been jealoua
And Froch is only really known in the UK.
I’m stunned at the level this man will stoop too to get views 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Froch is probably the uk most over achieving fighter mediocre at best
Honest overview from Froch. Both AJ & Fury have done well out of boxing, but if we’re being brutally honest neither of them have legacy status.
I really enjoy Carl's analysis and views. Great pundit.
AJ hasn't beaten an Elite heavyweight at their PEAK, I don't think that can be disputed.
Stop it Carl Froch still go on about you you of course Joshua is got a legacy of course Fury got a legacy The best to heavyweights in the last 10 years and fury is still undefeated 🤫🤫🤫🤫
He’s the boss
Enjoy froch’s content however… the opinions he has on AJ are miles of it! (In my opinion)
Aj would not beat windmill and forget about Fury. He would not beat Zhang or Hergovich.
It would be good if Mr Jordan let guests finish their sentences!
He’s 2 time HW champ and become 3 time he’s rained over the HW division for more than a decade his legacy is waaaaay better than froch
I’d say aj is on par with frank bruno legacy wise.
The minute Joshua split with McCracken & then dared to criticise some of his training techniques….
Froch came gunning for him in every single interview since!!!
There is no way someone can tell me that guy called Froch or what his name is again oh yes Mr Hater. Swear down, Froch is smoking weed or weed is smoking him before the interview
So who did wilder beat until he fought fury these guy hold. AJ to. A way different standard than the other heavyweights and it's all jealousy because of how much money he has made
Carl Froch brings his super- middleweight mentality to the Heavyweight division.
Had he been a heavyweight he’d have found himself in a wheelchair ♿️ 100%
easy to have granite chin as a middleweight. Not so easy as a heavyweight, just ask Joe Joyce.
Klitchko in Germany you mugs
I’d like to see you fight wilder💩😴😴
Wise words from Carl - one of the great British fighters. AJ should beat Dubois on Saturday, which I guess in the scheme of things won't do much for his boxing legacy; it'll just put a win in the win column of his record. Carl's looking and sounding sharp, which is good to see; a good short, punchy interview.
Cannot believe it, you actually mentioned Lenox Lewis … I’m amazed… LL would WALK through this division WITHOUT taking a coffee break … and as for TF he would not last three rounds with LL …. One of THE GREATEST HW EVER ….?? ALL this BS around AJ and TF …. Get in the bloody ring and PROVE who is the best as LL did throughout this career …..
Froch mate your SOOOO JELOUS of aj. Just because him and rob McCracken have got more of a closeness than you had with him. He’s achieved more in his career than you have in your whole career, and guess what, he’s still in his career, still achieving. And this new phase aj is In he will ko them all
"Overachieved" - gifted decisions they shouldn't have got
But he ain’t the only one tho is he
I don't understand this constant knocking of AJ, it's not like he's coming out mouthing off about his legacy? AJ has weaknesses, he's struggling to get back up there, leave him alone for a while, FFS.
Just one last thing you know Carl , you keep on about Ruiz beating AJ yes AJ got beat by the late replacement Ruiz , by the way if that had of happened to Fury there would have been no fight that day !!
But let's not forget boys AJ came back and boxed the head off Ruiz , completely shut him out , like you Carl should have done to Kessler second time around, REMEMBER CALZAGHE beat him in his POMP Carl !!
What would Calzaghe have done with you ?? Oh dear 😳 😱
Best leave the chit chat lads 😜
CF needs to give his honest opinion on Fury too. More than he has, Outside of the John Fury rubbish Froch says out loud what Porky Russ says in his videos.
I don't understand AJ fans. I like him as a person, but he lost his way in the ring. I give him credit for the Klitschko fight, but he lost the desire he had back then. No idea what the health issue was before the first Andy Ruiz fight, but he's never seemed the same since then. I get strong Audley Harrison vibes from him now, still talks a good fight, but can't produce it in the ring. I hope he proves me wrong, but that's the way I see it.
😂😂😂 the Guy who defended with his face using his nose to block punches says the Olympic Gold medalist overachieved? Lets be honest here, Froch is a HOF only known in Nottingham where as AJ will be the HOF whi was known globally. Froch the clown needs to wind his neck in
You can’t compare heavyweight to middleweight.Heavyweight is the crème de la creme.Stop talking Carl you’re embarrassing yourself.
Watching these two clowns whinge about AJ, again is sooo old. Carl Froch is so over rated....His assesment of AJ's career is just off base. AJ holds winds over a young hungry J Parker & D Whyte, two boxers years later other boxers are claiming as great victories to achieve. He finished off a highly competitive Povetkin, an effective Pulev. Froch's comments about Charles Martin are so hollow, he had the tittle, who else was AJ supposed to fight? Say what you want, Martin has had some good matches, but AJ was given food, and ate it in 2 rounds...isn't that enough? He lost to Ruiz, then beat him solidly, ask yourself, if Ruiz was an easy opponent why didn't anybody else of note fight him for a noteworthy victory. I am not an AJ super fan, but give him credit...he offered Wilder 120 million & Tyson a huge Saudi deal, they both declined....
Froch is marmite.
Sometimes I really like him for his outspoken no bs opinions, and other times I think he is a mega ego diva who has a over inflated opinion of his own worth.
Whhen you get floored by stan Laurer after being cryogenically defrosted for the occasion,well, that's beyond 3 hip,hips,even if you are a new breed if fighter.. .....
I don't get all these AJ criticisms; poor fella. Nothing he can do is ever right; listening to Simon talk about Aj is like, goodness me!!!! Indeed, you must have other topics for discussion. Simon asks Froch questions about AJ, knowing what the answers will be.
AJ left Rob Mccracken (Froch's trainer) as Mccrackens advice "relax, relax" was not only useless but damaging.
Anyway this is why Froch is sour because AJ wasn't "loyal" to Mccracken. Plus Froch is just a jealous boy.
Joshua lives rent free in Froch's head. How Does Joshua beat Wilder or Fury, when they're both running from him ? Froch was a decent fighter who lost to Ward and is now a green with envy trolling monster.
I don't think any of the current heavyweights can claim a legacy.
Aside from Usyk, the division is just a combination of average Joes, failed American footballers and ex-nightclub doormen.
AJ is not remotely close to being talked of as a great heavyweight. AJ has believed the hype that was directed his way. He beat a past peak Klitchko who was on his way out of the sport. Ruiz found AJ out.
Fury with a belly would beat AJ. Wilder would smash AJ.
AJ is a body builder trying to be a boxer!
Froch mentions beating Kessler after he initially lost to hin as part of his legacy. But continuously slatess AJ for losing to Ruiz despite him being a later replacement that he didnt prepare for and also AJ beat Ruiz in the rematch. Same situation good for Frochs legacy but awful for AJ.
Its getting a bit foolish now..
Joshua by far will leave a better Legacy. He is the only reason boxing got to be here to the level it is today. Fury and Wilder had been pros for a long time prior to AJs arrival, what did they do for the sport? The guy is unified 2 time world champion, the most followed boxer in the world, having filled arenas all over the country. Froch needs to be humbled.
Apart from Wilder, tell me which top level fighter was available for AJ to fight between Dillian Whyte and Ruiz. AJ has a better roster than Fury and Wilder.
Joshua's got the greatest legacy,manlLook he can fan 500,no-one on his level,no one.....!nuff said.
AJ has the best resume compared to the other heavyweights that's a fact
What has wilder done 40 taxi drivers no one in top ten in 40 fights is shameful while AJ was clearing out the division he fought everyone and fury and wilder ducked him dont forget that wilder turned down offers and tyson giving crazy time schedules
Another day Another Froch interview when he talks about Aj his obsession is unbelievable he must be desperate for money as he keeps trying to make headlines and talk about Aj its every single interview and it's boring we get his feelings are hurt because Aj got rid of his hero McCracken but he needs to seriously talk about something else because his bitterness is boring everyone now
Full blown hater!
I am not a fan boy by any stretch. But which current HW does have a great legacy. Wilder certainly not. Fury nope. Usyk at HW no. None do.
I agree with Froch AJ has over achieved had he been active back in the 80s he would never have won the British title and that is down to his lack of amateur experience.
Froch absolute Lengend
Froch is so up his own arse it’s unbelievable. You’d think he was the 2nd coming of Floyd Mayweather Jr ffs.
Says the worst technical boxer in history
glad to see the kevin sinfield book in the background.,this guy should be knighted he is a real hero.
Froch greatest victory is against a old outdated Kessler & 1 dimensional Bute. AJ did smethin froch never did which was be a superstar & made alot of money. Andre ward schooled him to the point he tries to erase that memory from fans minds
Carl Froch is right AJ has over achieved however he was never unified champion. He is upset that AJ has had half a career and made 10x the amount of money.
Have to agree with Carl Froch here
On everything including Lennox not getting enough Props
But CF is right ,about AJ
Your moneing saying that aj was gifted the belts, that is absolutely stupid Aj fought the people who had the belts it’s not hes fault that Parker and Martin had the belts, what is he ment to do wait until someone credible twin the belts, then fight them but what happens if they are the same level fighters atgô
I like froch but fckme what a hater, aj, khan, calzaghe.. Anyone who may have had a better career he hates them, ward made him look like great boxer froch was.
Wlad was 41 and 16 months out but clearly not sat on the sofa. Froch hates AJ jealous of Joshua’s success.
I thought I would see a video from Simon/Talksport on the recent AJ performance but theres nothing
Well this man knows more than me he has Been their wore the te shirt. I can only admire him and accept his acessment as accurate he knows what he is talking . About.
Carl still trying to live off AJs name still. Very bitter since the 90.000 at Wembley
Froch's legacy is better than both fury and AJ's put together. Prove me wrong!