John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers Returns, Part 1 | Broken Record (Hosted by Rick Rubin)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
- Today we’re sharing one of the most intimate conversations Rick Rubin has ever had on Broken Record. It’s with the famed guitarist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, John Frusciante.
Rick Rubin last spoke to John back in April when the Chili Peppers were getting ready to release their album, Unlimited Love, their first record with Frusciante in 16 years. Unlimited Love debuted at number one in the U.S. and 15 other countries. Today, just a little more than six months later, the Chili Peppers released a second Rick Rubin-produced album, Return Of The Dream Canteen.
On today’s episode we’ll hear John Frusciante talk about the band’s early music, including the making of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. They talk about how his contributions on slower, more melodic songs like “Under The Bridge” and “Breaking The Girl” helped expand the Chili Peppers funk punk sound. John also talks candidly about the dark, drug-addicted years that followed the intense success of Blood Sugar. And he explains how he was able to finally get sober and rejoin the Chili Peppers to record their classic, commercial comeback album, Californication.
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Thank you!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Rick Rubin, I cannot thank you enough. Guiding John to open up so freely is truly a gift and then sharing those moments with us is beyond amazing. The rawness and honesty of those drug years is truly gut wrenching but leaves me only appreciating and celebrating the phoenix that is John Frusciante. Thank you again, these visits are absolute gold.
He is definitely pheonex; what a delight to see him soaring again!
welp….that was well said.
Amen! Well said!
Phoenix is not a good analogy.
@@musicowned 😂😂😂
The simple fact John's still alive is a miracle. Glad he's still around and making music for us to enjoy.
Destiny.
Or worse than death. He was close to loosing his arm. Imagine not being able to do your passion, that would be painful
@@unknownuser0006 He would have learned to play the guitar with his feet
The universe wasn’t done with him yet. Knowing how messed up and close to death he was, and then seeing just how much he came back from that, to become an even better and more skilled version of himself, gives me hope that it’s never too late to turn things around and become the best version of myself too. I think his solo music especially speaks to people who have been trapped in dark times, with a sense of understanding, but also a way out.
I met him backstage at House of Blues in 97 on the ill fated Nutstalk tour...and he was in bad shape...I couldn't believe he turned things around so quickly and was back with the Chili's in late 98. When I met him..he was off Heroin (but clearly wasnt totally sober) and he just looked bad and was extremely irritable. He definitely got lucky. Most people who went as far down into addiction as he did...do not make it out alive
It is imposible not to love John Frusciante
unless you're a fan of river phoenix
@@copyrightcharacter1166 That kid made his own choices and no one was responsible for them besides him.
@@copyrightcharacter1166 wrong, I love them both!
@@copyrightcharacter1166 😂😂 this guy gets it
@@DweeD1516 So, a friend gives you a spiked drink and you die, is that your responsibility?
When he says It seemed like nobody wanted to be his friend, it makes me profoundly sad. Not just for him, but for anyone that's had that feeling before.
Feel that right now
@@remembers911 life is hard but there is always interesting people who will help and love you
@@remembers9114 months later I hope you’re in a better place. Lots of love
John is one the most beautiful souls in this world. His solo records saved my life when I was in a dark place of my own. 💖
Same here - his solo music and his work with the RHCP have saved me thru the darkest periods...
Once again (for like the _4th time!_ 🙄🤦♂️), I missed my chance to see them live just a couple nights ago and it truly devastated me! They played a epic, free benefit show in a tiny gym to 900 people with their full arena setup (I don't even know how they did it)... Every chance I get, either I have a medical emergency or a personal catastrophe and miss the show... feels like I'll never see them.
Praying I get another chance soon 🙏
me too. I also collect his solo albums on vinyl. So expensive though...
Just heard song to sing when I'm lonely
I don't know any other songs
@@quicklicks5963 Listen to When Shadows Collide with People, the whole album is a gem.
Soul to Squeeze is an absolute masterpiece, and interesting to hear why it didn't make the cut.
John definitely is one of the ones that “make you feel better”
He’ll make you feel fabulous
We got TWO incredible albums this year with the return of John. You can tell it's true that the band has been rejuvenated, and honestly, it feels like they're the best they've ever been. Got the see them in Toronto and it was easily the best concert I've seen. Long Live the Red Hot Chili Peppers!
I was at the Toronto show too, incredible, the whole night was such a euphoric vibe !! Happiest crowd I've ever seen leaving a show 😊
@@northerngurl6178 I don’t think he missed one note at that show!
DannyBDoe, which albums are you talking about? Unlimited love or whatever it’s called, is horrible. I’m a rhcp fan guy, but they haven’t put out a solid album since bssm.
@@mateosananto8594 they released two albums, unlimited love and dream canteen, and while nothing will ever be blood sugar, i felt stadium arcadium was their closest effort until these last 2 released this year, and while ive only heard them a couple times, there's a lot of strong funk going on which to me was what I've missed the most, but hey not every song is for everybody
@@mateosananto8594 wow you don’t like stadium Arcadium ? I’m young born in 99 so maybe I haven’t listened to the older stuff enough to appreciate it, but stadiums not bad imo lol
Dude…today is like a massive dopamine dump bridging my childhood to adulthood.
Rick and John -thanks for all you live to do
Man that part where he dives into the rough years is really intense. He almost sounds borderline in tears at some points, real pain. So happy he made it out and got better. One of my favorite artists and prob the most influential person for me musically. Great interview.
The part where Rick says that John was missing teeth and the walls were covered in blood/vomit is really intense. I’m glad John moved past that period in his life and went on to start recording and touring again
This is helping me emotionally and mentally in a difficult time. Sitting here with my guitar passively playing makes me feel so at peace. Thank you
I feel you. I don't play in bands anymore but the comfort in sitting alone and playing guitar never fades
Dude, yes!!!!
John is beautiful in every way, can't wait for the next part. Good to hear him so engaged and chatty with Rick.
Chatty John is inspiring AF
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
"I feel like I'm just getting warmed up." ❤️
Wow, I never have heard John being so open about all of these details of his past. When he knows the public will hear his memories of that time. Thank you so much for opening up about that period. Don't get me wrong, I find John is always very sensitive in his interviews and speaking his true feelings. But about this period, so detailed, I'd never heard. Thank you Rick Rubin, for giving John this trust and space. Just like you say you did, back in the day, when you visit John's house -although that must be really hard for you to see, you left John be in his value - as a true friend. Just like music is a true friend to all of us. I can relate to what John says. Just like Joy Division, Nirvana and Bob Marley were as a friend to John in a period, they were all friends to me too in periods of my own life. Glad that he thought about it that way, because John's music also brought me home many times. It was a true friend to me, in the moments I was by myself. Music is way better than therapy, I guess, if you love it deeply. And also it's always like a tsunami of inspiration for others, who are open to it. I began to paint, write, being a music-addict, since I was a youngster. And john's music was really the first wave that did that to me in that huge sense. Loving music made me the creative person I am today. And I always will be grateful for that, your were then and therefore still, will forever be my dear friend in sound. Your music connected to me in ways it got me fired up. And for that fact, I truly do love your creative soul and everything that came out from that. It's a really warm place to surf the waves of your creativity. Thank you for making waves -thank you for opening up.
Boring heroin guy...
There's so much great musical history with John. I could listen to these guys talk forever. Great stuff Rick!
This is everything I ever wanted in an interview
So nice to see John say Boston was one of the best nights on the tour. I was there it was beautiful.
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The love within John's soul and his passion to create beautiful sounding music, I am truly grateful that he has returned and I am alive today to experience the 2 joyful albums from this year. Seeing them live in Dublin earlier this year was a moment I will never forget. Love love love!
Shoutout to Rick for giving John the courage to do harmony vocals. He has some of the coolest harmony vocal parts
And yet it's never ever really worked live
@@Matt-ig4yk It totally does... I think they should be a bit louder but on this current tour his backup Vox sound great. They are subtle sometimes you wouldn't even notice but it would feel incomplete without them
He pushes the envelope by singing in a monotone and calling it "harmony".
@@creamydistortion his voice is hauntingly beautiful have you not heard his solo album Curtains? It's one of the saddest albums of all time. I love sad music.
Sure
I was at the Boston show. Can confirm he was feeling it
Was at the DC show (womp womp). I didn't think it was a bad effort on his part. They did have an early miscue on Dani California and also came in early on right on time. My group left very happy. Wish I could have seen Boston.
I was at DC as well and could tell he wasn’t into it… still a great show (I’m guessing the group hug was an effort to boost his spirits).
@@kellygrahamtamai6504 I guess whatever he was feeling and the Dani California botch was irritating
This is so insightful and sincere from John. It is incredible how he reflects on the things. The guy went to hell and back, but managed to rise above it all. Also, I couldn't imagine better person to interview John than Rick. Props to Rick for this interview.
Yes,he's one of the few that has made it out alive.never really thought about that
Seriously the best interview I have ever heard. John Frusciante is probably the most real person ever and so humble and honest, its beyond words. Go to comments on any board or any RHCP video and they are filled about how the music got them through life. When John says that is his purpose and intention it speaks volumes to the character and person he is. They are still giving people this soundtrack for their life to this very day!!! 🌶❤️ forever grateful for their music and their purpose!
I remember reading an old John interview, I think for a solo album, and the interviewer asked “what made you include so many songs?” And he said something along the lines of “I didn’t wanna cut a song cause people will say how much a song means to them and even if I don’t think a song is good, who am I to take away what might help someone, even one person.”
Thanks for sharing this!! Awesome that he has used his art to inspire and connect with so many people. He has given back so much with his music and even though he knows the impact it has had on so many people, he probably doesn't realize the full extent it has had. So lucky this band is still making music 🌶🌶🌶🌶
"Humble" is not a word that applies to this egomaniac.
Thank you Rick and Broken Record Podcast for this invaluable interview! We love you John and Rick!
We need at least 10 more of these with John.
He's putting out a ten record set of himself farting into a microphone, and you will worship it.
Yes, please do another one!!🙏🙏
This is the most I’ve ever heard John open up in conversation. Very special💚
Thank you sooo much for this Series you started to do with John. Its so amazing hearing him talk about all of these things from the past. And that fact that you made him even talk a little bit about his darker days when he was going through his drug addiction was even more amazing since I wouldn't have expect John to talk about his experience and thoughts during that time period so openly. But then again he is getting older and maybe its a good way of resolving allot of stuff.
Another great interview. Love John so much, need part 3 asap
Dear god please do a dozen more of these with John... such fascinating conversation! I love this band and it's members more and more each day
This is amazing.. super grateful to Broken Record and Rick. So cool hearing John talk about a repeatable feeling from listening to some artists. Johns music did the same thing for me which I've never felt in the same way with another artist
This was a really wonderful listen. Looking forward to future talk(s) between these two, really hope they can get to it.
Absolutely loved this conversation. Very genuine and soulful. So glad to have new John material!
Such a beautiful conversation 💜 thank you Rick and thank you John for opening up like this 💟
I live here now! Two of my favourite people not only together but realising the spirit that focus brings. Amazing and thanks for the tunes
So absolutely grateful to have these guys back with John. Cannot wait to dig into canteen tonight.
Oh part 2 yay!!!! I can't wait to see frusciante with the band next year when they come to Australia ❤
Absolutely beautiful conversation.
Thank you for sharing this ! John frusciante hits my soul with his music and his words in such an inspirational manner . You guys are human treasures!
What a beautiful conversation. Thank you John, Thank you Rick and God Bless you both.
i’ve been waiting for like 20 years for this conversation to happen. thx John and Rick!
incredible insight, you can tell how comfortable John is with Rick. Looking forward to the next part!
I cannot even begin to describe how much I appreciate this interview and all of your wonderfull work. Many Thanks Forever 🙏❤
Such an amazing album Return of the dream canteen is, that im still trying to process it and I will in the following months and years. Probably one of the best chili's albums of all. Thank you Broken Records and Rick for putting this podcast out. It is really interesting and fun to listen to you guys talk about life and music in general. Its a blessing.
Rick is the perfect person to interview John! He just knows how to put people at ease and let them open up. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Love to Rick for this awesome conversation and his amazing job producing the RHCP, and all my love, admiration and respect for John for all the amazing music he give us!
Rick Ruben has the best speaking voice. It's like he just ate a snickers and hasn't swallowed all of it. So good!
Snickers😂 so specific
Yessssss, I’ve been waiting on this ❤
I was at the Boston one, and I could tell, even for them it was a special energy there that night. I've seen a lot of RHCP concerts too, but it just seemed unique that night. It's interesting to hear him say that directly now after having seen it first hand. Him confirming it is really amazing.
Oh boy, I thought it was a treat with the last interview, this is my fav frusciante interview ever. Just two great friends chatting. Amazing
Footage of their Mothers Milk era live performances always blows me away, they had an incredible energy/vibe about them. Wish some of their Pinkpop shows or others, would get an HD release sometime. The only available ones on youtube are poor quality.
They have one I know of on you tube.
Live on vrbo or something.
Great sound. Was i guess a radio deal or something.
Played 30 min worth of great tunes . 👌 check it out.
Live at Slane Castle 🏰
@@bradharvy13 Yeah the VPRO radio performance? yeah I love that one. No I just wish there were some HD versions of there Pinkpop shows with Frusciante. I think there were 2, 1989 and 1990, they are on youtube, and recorded professionally, but they're not HD, very grainy. Also the show they recorded for there Psychedelic Sexfunk Live from Heaven VHS. That must exist somewhere, but it's not available. They seemed incredible around that time, just wish someone would release HD versions or make a Blu Ray avaliable or something :)
@@kanthakathewhite1012 yeah that's amazing, I have a dvd of it. Just wish they would release HD versions of their shows around 1989-1990. They did record some professionally, they're only available in low quality on youtube :)
I had an official VHS, Psychedelic Sexfunk Live From Heaven, back in the day that was MM-era. Dunno if that's been released digitally? I remember my dad didn't like me watching it coz he thought it'd make me gay. "A lot of flesh on show there, isn't there?", lol.
Great conversation! I could listen to Rick and John talk about music all day.
This was special...as a musician it really hit me as to be open to less aggressive to more aggressive ways of playing guitar. The idea of just being a team player then a virtuoso can really help the band so much.
Thank you so much for this beautiful conversation🙏🏽💕🌼💐 Much love!
Excellent interview.. so intriguing listening to John open up with someone he completely trusts..
The last minute of this interview is what true friendship sounds like.
To me the sound of Californication was the embodiment of a phoenix rising, it literally sounds like rebirth.
That's exactly how I see it as
It sounds like a money grab.
I love to hear the background details on their music from John. You can really tell the amount of thought he puts into creating music, and the many influences he draws upon.
The interview I've been waiting for 🤍
Cant help but feel that keidis could not help but be a lil envious of how strong frusciantes connection to their audience is n how much people just love his magic. Thanku flea for bringing him bk.
So glad to hear the discussion around ‘Soul to squeeze’ .. was always one of my favorite RHCP songs and never understood why this wasn’t part of the album
Thank you SO MUCH for doing this, Rick
Can't wait for the next one! Love you guys!
Can't wait to next part!
Thanks for activate the captions ❤️ amazing conversation. Love Rick and John ❤️
This is awesome. Can't wait for the next! 😀
I love John and the Chili Peppers. Such a phenomenal band and so much talent. It's so sad to hear about how bad into drugs John was but it's amazing how he overcame his addiction and rose to the top once again. When I heard he had rejoined RHCP back in 2019, I cried. I was missing him for years and it just felt like everything was right in the world again. RHCP just wasn't the same without him. ❤
This might be the greatest interview I’ve ever heard… I don’t know who’s better with their words. Bravo gents 👏
John is one of my favorite guitar player and to hear him this way is fantastic. His likes in music spot on in my head too. So cool to hear this, can’t wait for the 2nd one. Been a peppers fan for a long time. I attended a show of many but one sticks out at SUNY Albany in 89 I believe. But I herd John playing Hendrix and was outside at the time. I couldn’t get in fast enough. Unbelievable show. So glad you are well John. Your music is needed.
Good god, as I was standing outside last night, smoking a cigarette and listening to the new record I thought to myself: «dang, I really hope we get another Broken Record episode with the chili peppers, especially John, I really loved that». And here we are, prayers answered😅 Thanks for this amazing podcast!
Edit: This is the best interview EVER, done, no discussion. Wow, just wow🤯
how's the new stuff? Haven't had a single bit of it yet
@@vladrileynavilys it’s pretty damn good👌👌
@@vladrileynavilys very experimental
Yes i cant wait for the next part and I was going to re-listen to the old ones from UL release and then I saw this this morning and it made a good say even better
I agree, I was almost excited about this interview as I was for the new album ❤
Thanks, Rick, and John for being open with us, your music influences lot of people!
Amazing interview! Thank you!
This is just an absolutely amazing interview.
Enthralling conversation.
Being a professional musician myself & an unapologetic fan boy of both these guys, this is pure gold.
Thanks fellas.. x
Please…… a part 3! Best interview ever!
Thank you so much for this!!
John plays his guitar with amazing feeling, so gifted and talented-the best!
Thank you for your honesty John. Looking forward to the next chapter
Thank you for pushing through that DC show. A night I will never forget
This is great, I could listen to Rick and John talk for hours. ❤
Rick content on fire lately, first that amazing podcast with JRE and now this pop ups on RUclips? Amazing.
I love John, this discussion was so natural and made me feel so good, can’t wait for part 3
He's putting out a ten record set of himself farting into a microphone and you will worship it.... :-p
Best Interview of him on the internet...Huge thanks
These interviews are such an incredible and unexpected gift to longtime RHCP fans.
I was at the UL Chicago show and it felt special in the way he described Boston. It was my 8th RHCP show (3rd with John), and I watched every clip of the UL tour on RUclips, and it just seemed like they were taking it up a notch that night. Every song was perfect, and the improv jams were legendary. Anthony’s mom was there too.
It seems the Chili’s play for each other. The chemistry of the band is paramount. They play for each other
damn, this is gold but i wish this was video format. love john and youre a great interviewer.
thank u for this
Wow, what an interview.
So amazing to hear John go so deep into his story.
Thank you for your art!
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
This is incredible, I could listen to these two for ever.
Gripping…can’t wait for pt.2….couldn’t quantify in words how much John’s music has inspired me in ever aspect of my life since blood sugar came out…I was 10…you’ve been in my heart and soul all the way soul to squeeze is my saving song….but I’m must say….Eddie is an absolute masterwork in everything I love about your songwriting thank you john…thank you for making through and still being here making beautiful music that enriches all our lives
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
John Frusciante put into words the reason why his music and the music of the Chili Peppers is so important to so many people: through the music, he is giving us friendship. We can feel our friend, the music, hugging us when we’re lonely and just being there for us when we need it most
WoW Thanks for this, we need more please
I always have ears for John's self-assessment on the band as well as his own playing... a real prodigy (all of these years later...)
Two absolute legends. I’m out for words
the ending part where they talk about harmony and back vocal, i felt the same exact thing when john mentions almost all the songs that i like had the same thing. never knew it was rick rubins idea though, fantastic interview
This is going to be the most sacred musician series that artists will look at for generations to come
John frusciante is an inspiration to so many. his style flows between so many frequencies yet his style is very profound. thanks John.
appreciate you being you.
... Ready for Part 2 now please! 😅🙏✨
And John said he is just warming up and looking towards next year 😊
YES! was hoping the last one was longer, deeper. Lemme have it fellas!🤘🤗
This is just brilliant. We've heard a lot about these subjects before in interviews John's done over the years but none of them have been as personal as this. So interesting when he talks about that period between Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar and how he didn't think it would be ok for him to be bringing ideas and songs that were so outside the band's usual sound. Amazing how he didn't think of himself as being very good around that time either until very recently when he's looked back. Good to know he reflects back on things now in a better light. Also, mind blown to find out John didn't think anything of harmonies before Rick turned him onto the idea! When you consider how prominent they became on By the Way especially you would never guess John had to be convinced initially. Hopefully they do manage to keep up having these long conversations as I'm sure we could all listen for hours and never get bored.
Boring heroin guy.
Amazing interview. Love hearing about the recording process. Gave me some ideas to use with my music. I need Rick to produce my next album 😄
PLEASE give us part 3 soon! Gotta have it