@@Marcel_KAAAA thanks for sharing, are they constantly providing better odds? I'll be checking out the site, not all of them are accessible from all geographies
That sprint was executed to perfection by Teunissen and Girmay - staying cool when he needed to, jumping into the hole without hesitation and timed to perfection
I was surprised by UAE’s decision to go for the stage today. I thought you were right, yesterday was a good day for the break. What happened to Pedro Bilbao today?
I heard that he dropped from the pack very early on, as did Moho, with Wright arriving outside the tile limit, I’m expecting some kind of bug to go around in the team
Not insane at all, Pog put in a brutal attack with 30kms to go which in itself takes a huge amount out of the body, plus he then pushed alone right until Jonas came up to him. Jonas who did share the pulling with others for 20kms of his chasing 30kms. You have to look at the overall picture, not just the outcome.
I know Jonas is coming back from serious injuries but more recently Pogi's bout with COVID no matter how mild is definitely playing a factor here. He had to sit multiple times on his sprint today. That is very unlike him.
You could also turn that argument around: bonification seconds aside, the big 4 can’t be bothered about any rider outside of these 4 teams and the fight amongst them can also happen in the background (agreed though that the break needs a buffer to be able to make it stick, which is unlikely to happen when UAE or Visma LAB decide to make the race hard)
@@CyclingGuy this tour has shown categorically that high clmbers have a big edge.. is that what we want the tour to be or do we add bigger bonuses on stages, like 30 seconds etc to give stage winners more chance? i think the tour is probabaly meant to remain the toughest climbing race so it should stay, but the way things go, with things like cobbles and gravel it feels they want to spice things up for the new younger viewers
@@PazLeBon IMO it will always be about the best climbers, which is OK, yet personally, I really like that they're mixing it up a bit - it would be interesting to see how bigger bonusses for stage winners would influence the racing, yet even then, it will remain a climbers' game. Talking about mixing it up, I would love to see a proper 1 week multisurface stage race (like you have gravel, tarmac and mixed surface stages in rallying), where you have pure road stages, combined with gravel stages and full on MTB stages
@@CyclingGuy oops, thats the opposite of my view haha if want gravel go race a gravel race with a gravel bike. they do kinda exist. they be asking f1 cars to go on grass next just to mix it up :)
@@PazLeBon comparing to car racing, it would be like some kind of race of champions - personally, I'm the biggest fan of cyclists who can do it all, I have always been a massive MVDP fanboy, because he keeps on mixing up cyclocross, gravel, road and MTB and manages to be competitive in all disciplines, that in itself makes him the greatest active cyclist (not road cyclist, yet cyclist overall) in my book, nobody's even coming close - and they should be racing the appropriate bikes for the respective stages
@PazLeBon not once your peddling your arse off up 20km climbs in the sun. Tadej has to pray for rain. Be interesting if primoz will bounce back. Two falls in two days ain't a good recipe for Saturday. Yet he is one tough cookie and can still get a podium if remco cracks. Big ask though
Hi Frederik, the odds are an indication, yet they don't always make sense, ... in my book, Groenewegen is by no means second favourite on this stage, nor do I expect Van Aert, given that he's been under X-rays following his crash today. For Jayco, I'm expecting Matthews on this stage over Groenewegen, which is why I didn't call him - unlike the earlier sprint stages, I am expecting a big fight for the break here and wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of Cav, Groenewegen, Jakobsen ending up in a second peloton, which is why I didn't call them. As usual, I'd be more than happy to see him prove me wrong. Enjoy the stage
sure, please always use my previews as an input and by all means feel free to hold another opinion, I’m all ears, as long as feedback is brought constructively, which you’re doing! As I always say, occasionally I get it right (and by deduction that means that I often get it wrong as well 😂)
I agree I’d like to see fewer flat stages, yet in all, even though one stage lay be more boring than the other, I always love watching cycling - on top, we’re 12 days in and it’s still a 4 man race, which I wouldn’t particularly call boring
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thx for the video. bookies already recognizing bini. odds are low, so i took groenewegen top 3 @ 5.5
Sound like a good one to me, I took Dylan @19 for the stage win, that is seriously good money in my book
@@CyclingGuy bet3000 got 21.0 for a win
@@Marcel_KAAAA thanks for sharing, are they constantly providing better odds? I'll be checking out the site, not all of them are accessible from all geographies
Girmay the machine!
That sprint was executed to perfection by Teunissen and Girmay - staying cool when he needed to, jumping into the hole without hesitation and timed to perfection
As always, a fantastic preview of the upcoming stage. Hoping that De Lie's consistent performance can finally lead to a victory today!
the finish really suits him - the question is in which position he'll cross the bridge, yet when he opens up early on the uphill drag, ...
I was surprised by UAE’s decision to go for the stage today. I thought you were right, yesterday was a good day for the break.
What happened to Pedro Bilbao today?
I heard that he dropped from the pack very early on, as did Moho, with Wright arriving outside the tile limit, I’m expecting some kind of bug to go around in the team
its the first time ever pogi loses a 1vs1 sprint, he even won against Mads Petersen 1vs1. this is insane
Also is not immune to fatigue, he had clearly envisioned this one differently himself, let's see how their comparative form evolves ey
Not insane at all, Pog put in a brutal attack with 30kms to go which in itself takes a huge amount out of the body, plus he then pushed alone right until Jonas came up to him. Jonas who did share the pulling with others for 20kms of his chasing 30kms.
You have to look at the overall picture, not just the outcome.
@@keepitreal1547 beautifully put
I know Jonas is coming back from serious injuries but more recently Pogi's bout with COVID no matter how mild is definitely playing a factor here. He had to sit multiple times on his sprint today. That is very unlike him.
@@keepitreal1547E' andato in crisi di fame.. Non si è alimentato nel finale.
Nice prediction ❤
didnt think a break had much chance yesterday, not sure they do in the whole tour with those top 4 so close
You could also turn that argument around: bonification seconds aside, the big 4 can’t be bothered about any rider outside of these 4 teams and the fight amongst them can also happen in the background (agreed though that the break needs a buffer to be able to make it stick, which is unlikely to happen when UAE or Visma LAB decide to make the race hard)
@@CyclingGuy this tour has shown categorically that high clmbers have a big edge.. is that what we want the tour to be or do we add bigger bonuses on stages, like 30 seconds etc to give stage winners more chance? i think the tour is probabaly meant to remain the toughest climbing race so it should stay, but the way things go, with things like cobbles and gravel it feels they want to spice things up for the new younger viewers
@@PazLeBon IMO it will always be about the best climbers, which is OK, yet personally, I really like that they're mixing it up a bit - it would be interesting to see how bigger bonusses for stage winners would influence the racing, yet even then, it will remain a climbers' game. Talking about mixing it up, I would love to see a proper 1 week multisurface stage race (like you have gravel, tarmac and mixed surface stages in rallying), where you have pure road stages, combined with gravel stages and full on MTB stages
@@CyclingGuy oops, thats the opposite of my view haha if want gravel go race a gravel race with a gravel bike. they do kinda exist. they be asking f1 cars to go on grass next just to mix it up :)
@@PazLeBon comparing to car racing, it would be like some kind of race of champions - personally, I'm the biggest fan of cyclists who can do it all, I have always been a massive MVDP fanboy, because he keeps on mixing up cyclocross, gravel, road and MTB and manages to be competitive in all disciplines, that in itself makes him the greatest active cyclist (not road cyclist, yet cyclist overall) in my book, nobody's even coming close - and they should be racing the appropriate bikes for the respective stages
Do you think the battle between Pogacar and Jonas is too well balanced to call?
This will need a strong team.
For me its Cavendish who will win out.
Only his team can safely take him to the last 100 meters.
Would be amazing to see him take another win, even though I'm not expecting him here - as usual, I'd be happy to see him prove me wrong ;-)
Putting wout in there is a big ask after coming down last stage. I can see jonas gaining 10mins when it's hot in the mountains
I'm not expecting Wout on this stage, he was under X-rays earlier today, ...
its cooler in the mountains :)
@PazLeBon not once your peddling your arse off up 20km climbs in the sun. Tadej has to pray for rain. Be interesting if primoz will bounce back. Two falls in two days ain't a good recipe for Saturday. Yet he is one tough cookie and can still get a podium if remco cracks. Big ask though
@@matthillard9363 it has just been announced that will not start today's stage 😥
@@CyclingGuy we didnt see that coming did we? cursed here :)
vini vidi bini will win hundred percent
nothings 100% on the tour
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bini for sure today
Would be amazing ey, yet there's no guarantees in cycling, so let's see how the stage unfolds ;-)
Why not Groenewegen at all on this stage? Not even 1 star? When he is third in odds
Hi Frederik, the odds are an indication, yet they don't always make sense, ... in my book, Groenewegen is by no means second favourite on this stage, nor do I expect Van Aert, given that he's been under X-rays following his crash today. For Jayco, I'm expecting Matthews on this stage over Groenewegen, which is why I didn't call him - unlike the earlier sprint stages, I am expecting a big fight for the break here and wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of Cav, Groenewegen, Jakobsen ending up in a second peloton, which is why I didn't call them. As usual, I'd be more than happy to see him prove me wrong. Enjoy the stage
@@CyclingGuy i still have him tho your logic is sound. a lot about whether breaks get away or not and thats often a 50-50 :)
@@CyclingGuy thank you so much! You are simple the best :D
sure, please always use my previews as an input and by all means feel free to hold another opinion, I’m all ears, as long as feedback is brought constructively, which you’re doing! As I always say, occasionally I get it right (and by deduction that means that I often get it wrong as well 😂)
@@frederiknielsen3550 note that, as you well know, he may prove me very wrong though 😂
Crazy gronewegen not even have 1 star
I hope he proves me wrong, yet if the other teams hammer this stage, I would not be surprised if he gets into trouble
i think this stage suit him a little better
@@PazLeBon thanks gos sharing and putting your thoughts out there, IMO it really adds value
@@CyclingGuy likewise
We pray for a breakaway tomorrow 🙏🏾🫡
Pogi is bluffing
Explain ... do you mean he's pretending weakness while he's not OR that he's actually weaker then we think?
Questo Tour ha troppe tappe di pianura... È noioso.
I agree I’d like to see fewer flat stages, yet in all, even though one stage lay be more boring than the other, I always love watching cycling - on top, we’re 12 days in and it’s still a 4 man race, which I wouldn’t particularly call boring