Did Paul Think of Himself As Another Christ? Dr. James D Tabor

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  • @pedroarceno533
    @pedroarceno533 2 года назад +19

    Just as those founders of new sects or religion nowadays, Paul was the same type of person. He founded Christianity based from his own opinion or imagination.

    • @joesmith7509
      @joesmith7509 2 года назад

      Actually he used all the other Gilgamesh points and widdled it down like all did... It's all true tho even atheism is part of it...
      E=Mc² is χξς(666)
      ΧΞϚ: (Chi Xi Stigma/666)
      ALL RELIGIONS, INCLUDING ATHEISM ARE CONNECTED BY E=Mc² and,
      THE STAR OF REMPHAN ✡️:
      Christianity✝️
      ΧΞϚ: (Chi Xi Stigma/666)
      -
      Islam: ٱللَّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ Allāhu ʾakbaru
      -l
      Egyptian: 𓋹 𓍑 𓋴
      (Ankh, Wedja, Seneb )
      -
      Atheism. ⚛️
      -
      Hindu 🕉️(aum, ohm)
      -
      Yin Yang, ☯️
      -
      Ouroboros,♾️
      _________________
      also, 666 & 777.
      (Numerically 666
      Gramatically 777)
      The - (E)nergy
      Makes - (M)ass {at rest}
      At a - (C²)onstant
      𓋹 ꜥnḫ - ankh - Be alive (E)
      𓍑 wḏꜢ - wedja - Strong (M)
      𓋴 snb - seneb - healthy (c²)
      Ankh-Chi-Aum/Om-
      Ouroboros-(E):
      BE ALIVE:
      To have life -Vital (E)nergy
      ꜥnḫ (lit. Cause to live);
      evolves to ⲱⲛϩ; = (lit. ♪ohn/Oh/ohmn). Vibration.
      To have vital energy,
      (to be creative, created {caused to be created})
      Wedja-Xi-Yin-Ouroboros-(M):
      STRONG:
      Be whole, stability,
      have (rest)"(M)ass,"
      UpStrength. Sanctified.
      Sabbath Rest, whole
      (complete, 'sanctified'
      ones self, wholely)
      Seneb-S(t)igma-Yang-
      Ouroboros-(c²):
      HEALTHY:
      To be sound-/steady
      moving i.e. "c²" Speed
      of light² (life²)?
      (C)onstant.{ine}lol
      Steady moving.
      (Progressing) To be
      sound. (Branch) expand, promote
      ___________________
      According to legend, Chinese characters were invented by Cangjie, a bureaucrat under the legendary Yellow Emperor. Inspired by his study of the animals of the world, the landscape of the earth and the stars in the sky, Cangjie is said to have invented symbols called zì (字) - the first Chinese characters."
      Brahma (ब्रह्म)
      (nominative singular),
      brahman (ब्रह्मन्) (stem) (neuter gender)
      from root bṛh-, means
      "to be or make firm,(E)
      ~We are Created.~
      strong, solid,(M)
      ~Sabbath established.~
      expand, promote. (c²)"
      ~Teach The Sabbath.~
      Hindu 🕉️
      ____________________
      E=Mc² is also 777:
      The Numbers are 666, but the definition of the words are 777. (Sanctified by keeping and teaching the Sabbath)
      Like God saying:
      -I made you. (E)
      -I Sanctified The
      Sabbath for you. (M)
      -Quickly, Keep and,
      Teach The Sabbath. (c²)
      __________________
      The Antichrist system is interconvertable:
      Lucifer Did Not Create anything. Lucifer used
      God's ways, and twisted them to look like God.
      The Antichrist system,
      And It's Church, Will
      Look Like it's Christs.
      Interconvertable:
      "Mutual alteration of the physical or chemical nature of a substance or entity."
      -Free dictionary by: farlex
      (Or, energy fluctuation, progressing into negative
      and/or positive sides are at an equal ratio...Yin-Yang)
      I would attribute this to the antichrist and Christ being indistinguishable. The good or bad energies of the two appear identical.
      (Because the antichrist and Christ looks identical.
      This is the fruits we know them from.).

  • @tookie36
    @tookie36 2 года назад +5

    Kudos to mythvision... i was an atheist in my belief for mythvision but now i'm hooked. What an absolute gem to pull in so much mainstream scholarship on one channel.

  • @nicolistruszkowski3355
    @nicolistruszkowski3355 2 года назад +8

    That was a great interview, sheds some light on who Paul was and what he was thinking. It's great to dissect stories and people from the bible to get a better understanding.

  • @moonpearl4736
    @moonpearl4736 2 года назад +21

    Paul twisted the verses in Hosea to mean the opposite of what they were meant to mean - Hosea was saying that those he had called "Not my people" would be "my people" meant (in context) that the Jews would return. Commentaries say "The Holy Spirit can quote himself as he will", but I don't buy it. This contradiction was a "Last Straw" with me.

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +5

      Paulianity

    • @mcgragor1
      @mcgragor1 2 года назад +1

      Even in Jewish literature there are understandings of prophecy that would be "plain sense" and I what Paul was doing here. Psalm 22 is clearly about Christ, yet when David wrote it, it was about his own troubles, and so on. Isaiah 53 is so clear, Jews who know their bible today don't like to read it. Throughout the Old T, there were places talking about ALL nations coming to the Lord, yet most of it dealt with Israel only. Paul takes all of it showing its fulfilment in Christ, so that in a real sense, even the non Jewish believers were children of Abraham, by virtue of their faith in Christ. So he uses the Hosea prophecy in a non "plain sense" way, yet it still refers to Israel, as the church in a Spiritual sense is Israel by faith in Christ. If you take all of it, its actually pretty astounding how the Old T prophecies come together in Christ.
      Also, and I am less familiar with this, but Jason Staples who the Dr. was talking about shows how Paul understood the scattered Israelites as gentiles, and through them coming back-becoming His people again, all of the nations could do so as well, thus fulfilling the prophecies about the nations, so that is interesting, not sure I buy that one as of yet, but it could be possible, which would mean Paul could have been using "plain sense" and the other way, when using the Hosea prophecy.

    • @martinsolomon5500
      @martinsolomon5500 2 года назад +2

      @@mcgragor1 😂😂😂😂

    • @Room-gf7vy
      @Room-gf7vy 2 года назад +1

      @@mcgragor1 orthodox jew here! This is the first I am hearing about my fear of Isaiah 53 😂😂😂 this is hilarious. The christian cultists always rage quit when I question their beliefs. They are so dark and evil. So falsely obsessed with sacrifice and blood. It is a death cult. Some of them start telling me all about my religion and how I am wrong even though I am always the only one capable of understanding Hebrew, Aramaic and (some) Ancient Greek in the conversation. Jews are not Christians for the same reason Christians “reject” David Koresh as the “lamb of god” it is a complete farce.

    • @Room-gf7vy
      @Room-gf7vy 2 года назад +1

      @@mcgragor1 the facts are that the Jesus did not fulfill a single falsifiable prophecy (there are many). It is all a con.

  • @Darisiabgal7573
    @Darisiabgal7573 2 года назад +20

    But Paul didn’t go to Judea first, first he went to arabia. In fact he seemed to care little about what his Jerusalem pillars had to say. From what I understand he tried to convert Jews and they tried to kill him. So it would appear that he was converting Gentiles because he was like really bad at witnessing to Jews.
    Think about he’s saying this, “this Jewish guy over here, he’s my master and the one anointed”. “Well, Paul of Taurus’s, how was he anointed, did you see his ceremony”. “Nope, never saw him alive, but he came to me in a vision, told me that he was my master and was anointed by god”. In the background you here the sound of men picking up stones.
    It would be interesting to know what Paul thought in his journey to Arabia.

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 2 года назад +2

      Did Paul go to Jeruslalem before or after the temple was destroyed? I think that is key. I reckon the temple and its priests were really rich, and Paul wanted a cut. After the temple was destroyed, he needed new revenue streams.

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 2 года назад

      With regards to the temple destruction, it would have not been an overnight thing. It would have taken months, if not years. And even if it took a month for Paul to hear the temple dismantling had started, he would have had enough time to travel there ? Straight away he would have known the earning potential was lost. Its unlikely too, that it was still descendents of Aaron running things. More likely, in my view, that preistly jobs were given out by the kings.

    • @jhake67
      @jhake67 2 года назад +4

      tradionally... paul was said to have died by '64... long before the temple was destroyed!

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 2 года назад +1

      @@jhake67 Fair enough 👍

    • @revelator5754
      @revelator5754 2 года назад +1

      The Jews had laws to allow gentiles into salvation called the Noahide laws. Paul had a different vision to bring in the gentiles to salvation. More practical no doubt but accomplished the same thing. Maybe Paul was impressed people sought salvation.

  • @joesmith7509
    @joesmith7509 2 года назад +3

    So Paul wants to go ahead and push forward before God brings Israel back together with Judah???
    Paul is so evil how could anyone still give him any theater

  • @wilfredmancy
    @wilfredmancy Год назад +2

    Joint heirs with Christ, yes, what else is there to think? Died with Christ, raised with Christ, set down in heavenly places with Christ, in him we consist, in him we live and move and have our being, what else could we possibly be thinking?

  • @brianspurlock-f8j
    @brianspurlock-f8j Год назад +2

    Acts shows Paul receiving warnings from the Holy Spirit not to go to Jerusalem. Paul interprets it that the Holy Spirit wanted him to go. Confusing.

  • @damouno
    @damouno 2 года назад +14

    Paul was most likely a 'Roman Agent'.
    He was a Herodian, that much is certain.

    • @willempasterkamp862
      @willempasterkamp862 2 года назад +2

      Germanicus

    • @martinsolomon5500
      @martinsolomon5500 2 года назад +3

      Yep Roman’s 13 by Paul. Trust the Roman government they are god

    • @emekonen
      @emekonen 2 месяца назад

      The Ebionites describe Paul as a Greek convert, converting because he wanted a priests daughter and when she rejected him he flew off the handle and began speaking against Judaism

  • @robertherring9277
    @robertherring9277 2 года назад +5

    Great interview!

  • @johnmichaelson9173
    @johnmichaelson9173 2 года назад +1

    Every time I hear Paul mentioned the words "Jewish Space Lasers" pop into my head. 🙏

  • @uncleambient
    @uncleambient 2 года назад +1

    Great interview Derek with the peerless Dr Tabor.

  • @TheShutterbug1968
    @TheShutterbug1968 2 года назад +3

    Jesus didn't bring the redemption??? Of course he did. Paul brings a different gospel that is not from Jesus. Jesus warned about Paul, and we can all try to be so educated in our own minds. Jesus is our only teacher. Paul was the AntiChrist Jesus spoke of that was already in the world. Jesus knew that Paul would lead many astray. Blessings in Christ.

  • @historicalbiblicalresearch8440
    @historicalbiblicalresearch8440 2 года назад +11

    Paul is stoned but just gets up apparently uninjured he also resurrects the man who fell from the window but there are many curious things about him.

    • @robertherring9277
      @robertherring9277 2 года назад +6

      I always hope, when I'm stoned, I will be uninjured. But I'm 50 so its just one of those risks I take! Lol!

    • @thesolarengineer
      @thesolarengineer 2 года назад +2

      Best statement on this channel in the last six months! 👍👍👍

    • @robertherring9277
      @robertherring9277 2 года назад +3

      @@kirkmarshall2853 you aren't as old as I am lol! Just getting up straight is dangerous lol!

  • @TheLookingOne
    @TheLookingOne 2 года назад +7

    Simon Magus definitely thought he was more important than the Yeshua
    he based his Jesus 1.0 character on.
    After the sects that would evolve into the catholic sect co-opted Simon Magus' story and dogma,
    those sects could have easily evolved the Jesus 2.0 stories in order to support their evolving dogma.

  • @francismarcoux8944
    @francismarcoux8944 2 года назад +2

    Paul.was the first télérvangelist

  • @salparadise1220
    @salparadise1220 2 года назад +2

    Little attention is given to - why was Paul a Roman citizen? What influence did that citizenship have on his thinking? Whilst this was after the citizenship began to be more widely given, it was still a long way from Caracella's granting of citizenship to everyone within the bounds of the Empire. It still meant something, not least was a measure of loyalty to Rome, which must have clashed with his professed love for Israel and Christ.
    Like poor quality porn, too much is left to the imagination.

  • @scottduke
    @scottduke 2 года назад +2

    Another very interesting interview!!

  • @Coffee-nx9uy
    @Coffee-nx9uy 2 года назад +3

    Everything is based on what's found, written, said and so on etc. Yes... that's the story some would believe , some would not...

  • @dalex60
    @dalex60 7 месяцев назад +2

    Jesus never preached heaven as a reward for the saved, he spoke of a restored earth.

  • @melindad180
    @melindad180 2 года назад +22

    Anything that exposes the *false* apostle Paul is okay with me. 👌

    • @p2w659
      @p2w659 2 года назад +3

      Were is the implications of that being true?

    • @kendalbrenneman
      @kendalbrenneman 2 года назад +10

      @@p2w659 Paul made stuff up. He never knew Jesus and preached things contradictory to what Jesus’s actual apostles taught. He hijacked Jesus.

    • @jasem222
      @jasem222 2 года назад +3

      @@p2w659 wild, supernatural claims?

    • @Napoleonic_S
      @Napoleonic_S 2 года назад +6

      @@kendalbrenneman
      If there were even actual apostles and Jesus in the first place.

    • @p2w659
      @p2w659 2 года назад

      @@kendalbrenneman again give me citation quote me scripture of Paul lord and contractions that is explicit in proving Paul deception?

  • @lovetwentyfourseven7428
    @lovetwentyfourseven7428 9 месяцев назад +3

    Look up the prophecy of Benjamin, Paul is Benjamin. The wolf. In the morning he preys on the flock; in the evening he divides up the spoils.

  • @jmsmzrz
    @jmsmzrz 2 года назад +3

    Yes he did! Collosians 1.24 Paul claims to suffer for the church because Yeshua's suffering was not sufficient.
    It is not possible that Yahovah would change His mind about all that He put in the mouth of Yeshua, Then send one of the murderers of the Pharasees to reverse the teachings of Yeshua.

    • @TheShutterbug1968
      @TheShutterbug1968 2 года назад

      amen!

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад +1

      Paul was a hellenistic. Raised Jew, because of Paul's tendency to be a liar, a charlatan, and a fake which he admitted himself he lied and it didn't matter that he lied as long as he brought one person to Jesus; Paul put in all that agnostic teachings you all think you have, and it was Paul who made it a sacrifice for you... The teachings don't line up with the Old Testament therefore they're not of God 🤔💭

  • @abiyah_1
    @abiyah_1 2 года назад +2

    this guest should of as allowed the host to finish talking, several times he cut off the host.

  • @Zxuma
    @Zxuma 2 года назад +5

    Hahahahah The current state of the US proves that the US did not win the Cold War.

  • @edvaneckert2348
    @edvaneckert2348 2 года назад +3

    "The Thorn in the flesh" refers to Paul´s homosexuality, doesnt it?

    • @salparadise1220
      @salparadise1220 2 года назад

      No, the weakness in his eyes after "seeing the light".

  • @buzzwordy9951
    @buzzwordy9951 2 года назад +9

    Was there a Paul for real, having visions about a Guy we can't find in history. I saw a guy named Jesus on this channel who runs a cult just like the first one did. Why do we believe in such nonsense. I accept that there is some wisdom in the religious texts, but it is not necessary to invent a God. Wise people do exsist it's just that the powerful people don't want to share they want to take. It will take more than wisdom to fix this.

    • @jesusdeity2010
      @jesusdeity2010 2 года назад +1

      What lots of people (even pastors) don't (yet) understand.
      God created us according to His own image and likeness. Godly.
      Mankind/the first Adam fell. The image of God in man got lost. That's why there is all this predicament on earth (selfishness, greed, lust, wars, sicknesses, death, etc).
      We are all born into that mess.
      For the fall of man a perfect atoning sacrifice had to be made.... that is what God did in Christ.
      With His own once and for all perefect sacrifice, He paid the debt for the fall of man for us, so we can be indwelled by His Spirit again and finally receive the divine life of the ages back, the first Adam let got of in the fall of man. An amazing act of grace and love by our creator.
      That is what you see happening in Christ's first disciples. They too healed all and walked in unselfish love.
      And yes.... that is still avaible today. The holy blood is in place, the Holy Spirit is here to give us understanding, power and transform us back to origin.
      Not to be debated about, but to be embraced and be-come.
      So: The Kingdom of God already came. Through Christ, in Spiritform, in those that understand.
      Hence the divine healing miracles we experience.
      God manifested in Christ to give us back the divine life mankind lost in the fall of Adam.
      Christ, the exact image of the invisible God.
      The image we were created after in Gen 1.
      The image we lost in the fall of man.
      The image that can be freely restored by Christ's blood and Holy Spirit working IN us.
      What a plan. What a solution. What a love. What a God. Jesus is amazing.
      It is the ultimate conclusion of the word and plan of God. God came full circle.
      He Himself stooped down from glory to restore us back to original created value: Christlikeness. Walking in divine healing power and unselfish love.
      Jesus, born of the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God. The "Son" of God, the incarnated word, God in the flesh.
      For three years He healed all, raised the dead, casted out demons, controlled nature, spoke pure divine truth.
      He said:
      "Follow Me. If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. The glory I have IN My Father, I give to you. It pleases the Father to give you His Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power. The same miracles i do, you will do too, because you will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am IN you. Freely I give you My Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, freely I give, freely share" Etc, etc, etc.
      I have experienced thousands of beautifull healing miracles through the power of Holy Spirit IN me already. Broken bones, cancers, covid, all kinds of infirmities healed in seconds. Demons manifesting and casted out by a simple "get out, in Jesus name".
      Jesus. De name above all names. In Him all power and wisdom is sourced and.... He calls us one with Him. God in man and man in God again. C'mon Jesus!!
      So.... again: God stooped down IN Christ to restore us back to Gen 1:27 were He said: "Let us make man according to our image and likeness and let them have authority.....": walk as Christ.
      Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after and being restored to by His atoning blood for the fall of man and indwelling Holy Spirit.
      You are free to receive this original divine life of the ages by Holy Spirit of Christ/God. Ask Him to guide you into truth. Read the Gospel of John and fall in love with your creator.
      You are not made for the fall of man and its effects, but for the image/glory of God and to walk like Christ. Holy Spirit is the guide and transforming power that will get you there. Amazing grace.
      A big leap in faith can be made when we start realizing we are already IN Christ, IN the last Adam.
      Free from the fall! Loved! Growing into awareness of our new (yet old) godly identity. Changing by Holy Spirit. The most fullfilled life ever.
      Paul healed all on Malta. He understood and wrote:
      "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë (= divine life) again".
      "IN Christ (the last Adam) we are co-cruisified (dead to the fall and its effects), co-raised (justified/made righteousness, holy, blameless, above reproach), co-seated (one with Him)"
      "The fullness of deity dwells in Christ and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of every principality and power".
      So.... thank you Jesus! Thank you for redeeming me from the fall of man. Thank you for your Holy Spirit that makes this new (yet old) divine life come alive in me. You are amazing!
      In the shadow of Peter the sick healed... He understood too and wrote:
      "By Gods power (Holy Spirit) and knowing Christ, we have become partakers of the divine nature and have escaped the fall of man".
      The divine life of the ages has been returned to us by Jesus once and for all perfect atoning sacrifice for the debt of the fall of man and His indwelling Holy Spirit in us. Jesus/God is amazing!!!
      Ask Him to give you revelation and change you to the way it was before the fall of man: Christlikeness.
      He will do so. For it is written: "the Spirit brings forth after His own kind".
      "I have come to give you Zoë (divine life) in abundance...."

    • @kendalbrenneman
      @kendalbrenneman 2 года назад

      @@jesusdeity2010 none of it actually makes sense if you actually study it, you know. And so many things should not be taken literally. The whole garden of eden story for example. Not literal. I hope you manage to find some good scholarly works on the subject, it’s very enlightening to start reading the books of the Bible as ancient Jews would have known to read them. There are so many layers. Please look into numerology, astrotheology, how many things in the NT are direct rip offs of Greek mythology… I have a few good book recommendations for you if you’d like, though I haven’t been able to read fast enough to read all the ones I still have on the reading list!

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 2 года назад

    Very interesting take on Paul

  • @jaylos3094
    @jaylos3094 2 года назад +3

    Apostate Paul? I mean Apostle Paul?

  • @kenmcclellan
    @kenmcclellan 2 года назад

    Many thought Paul alternatively as a deceiver. But he's the one who carries forward the idea of Jesus speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well to its logical conclusion. In the Gospel of Barnabas, some even accused Jesus of being Samaritan.
    Said the high priest : ' Now we know that thou hast the devil
    at thy back ; for thou art a Samaritan, and hast not respect unto
    the priest of God.'

  • @timothyseals3791
    @timothyseals3791 Год назад +1

    Paul never thought of himself as another Christ. He was an apostle who saw Jesus and converted to Christianity.

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      Paul never met jesus. That could have been any Spirit on the road, for even Satan is known to impersonate a being light an angel... Schizophrenic see things all the time and hear voices all the time. Would you believe the people living on skid row telling you they saw Jesus and he's talking to them?

    • @timothyseals3791
      @timothyseals3791 7 месяцев назад

      @@mickeydecurious Are you a professing Christian?

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      @@timothyseals3791
      I used to be blinded by that, but I forgot where I was told to turn back to Father God and it had nothing to do with the spilled blood of an innocent human being; then the more you learn by studying the Bible
      and the teachings of Jesus to Love thy neighbor feed thy neighbor clothed be nice love your neighbor and enemies as you would yourself do correspond with the teachings in the Old Testament; however add Paul and the Church is when it falls apart.

    • @timothyseals3791
      @timothyseals3791 7 месяцев назад

      @mickeydecurious So, are you a professing Christian?

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      @@timothyseals3791
      No I am not a Christian because I do not believe the blood of the innocent will save our asses... God commanded no human sacrifice, God said that the innocent cannot be punished for the sins of the guilty... Why go against what father God said?

  • @hwk59utr47
    @hwk59utr47 Год назад

    I think Jesus and Paul teach the knowledge of non-duality.

  • @bobvail1000
    @bobvail1000 Год назад

    PLEASE let Derek get a word in edgewise!🙏

  • @wolfgangkl
    @wolfgangkl 2 года назад +5

    Apostate Paul

  • @goalsnsuccess2086
    @goalsnsuccess2086 2 года назад +5

    I think Paul is just Josephus inserting himself into his own fictional work.

  • @regbanner8521
    @regbanner8521 Год назад

    Maybe paul had ptsd after his blinding light expeience. A lot of eastern religious followers that focus on the impersonal 'nirguna' aspect of gods powers in the created universe, have blinding white light experiences in which they become enlightened and change. Some find it so traumatic they never want to meditate again...sikhs, buddhists, hindus, persian mystics speak of it.

    • @ronaldeglewski3073
      @ronaldeglewski3073 Год назад +1

      I knew a person who had very bad depression and said that they sometimes hear voices , and also had seizer's ,thinking about Paul .

  • @legalblues3183
    @legalblues3183 2 года назад

    Excellent.

  • @librulcunspirisy
    @librulcunspirisy Год назад

    Thanks 👍

  • @B.Y.A
    @B.Y.A Год назад +1

    Paulinologia master deceiving mission

  • @mooshei8165
    @mooshei8165 2 года назад

    Paul is Christians messiah and Jesus is their Man God.

  • @galbright0990
    @galbright0990 2 года назад

    I think Isaiah is a better parallel to the Messiah, and Jeremiah is a better parallel to James/Jacob

  • @RoseSharon7777
    @RoseSharon7777 2 года назад +1

    Everyone born of (conceived) by the spirit receives a NEW NAME. As did John the Baptist, Simon, Saul, Isaiah 62:2, Plillipans 2:10. Its up to us to figure out the new names in the NT. Who was Stephen, James the JUST ONE, Andrew, Thomas, etc. The kingdom is like a pearl of great value hidden in a field. It will cost you everything to buy the field.

    • @joesmith7509
      @joesmith7509 2 года назад

      Saul didn't get a new name.. Paul is romanized Saul same name just like
      hay zues (spelled Jesus)
      and Jesus spelled
      (hay zues lol)

    • @RoseSharon7777
      @RoseSharon7777 2 года назад

      @@joesmith7509 Paul was a false teacher so of course he didnt get a new name. And the new name is Immanuel.

  • @gregjones2217
    @gregjones2217 Год назад

    There were perhaps 39 messiahs. Why not make it 40. Go Paul.

  • @atmanbrahman1872
    @atmanbrahman1872 2 года назад

    no.

  • @PageMarker1
    @PageMarker1 2 года назад +3

    "Was Paul crucified for you?"

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      You know when I was young I was taught that if the teachings in the New Testament don't line up with the teachings of Father God then they are false teaching; what that said God said not to perform human sacrifices, then in the New Testament you want me to believe God has mankind under a human sacrifice... Thus rendering God a liar🤔 God said if you ask him for forgiveness and you repent he will forgive you and remember your sin no more. Paul taught you all that the blood of Jesus forgives.
      God said I am not a Man nor am I Born of a Man therefore I will not lie like a Man. Paul talk along with the church Jesus was God In the flesh. Father God said he is known by all nations by many names. Paul and the church teaches that there is only one name for God and that is Jesus.
      God said have no God meaning no one before him, meaning in place of him ahead of him. Paul in the church teaches there is only one God and he sacrificed himself and he is the number one and his name is Jesus the"son" oh God.
      IDK I believe God over any of the NT Paul...
      Only 1 God thy Lord thy God ~ Mark 12:29 🤷🏼
      In my personal opinion we're all schizophrenic spiritually🙇🏼

  • @laurachitez8938
    @laurachitez8938 2 года назад

    Apostle Paul never proclaim himself as Messiah he converted many gentiles, healed people just to mention a few things he did and payed the ultimate price, who are you people to judge him? I hope Holly Easter will bring more light in our life and some understanding

    • @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953
      @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953 2 года назад +2

      Jesus Said if someone says they saw Him in the desert, they are liars,,, saul said he saw Jesus in the desert,,, nuff said,,,,

    • @laurachitez8938
      @laurachitez8938 2 года назад

      He was not a true believer in the beginning and Jesus healed him from his blindness for that particular reason to show us how great his love really is and made him understand what his real mission is. All the miracles he did we’re done in Jesus name and not for his own glory! If can’t see the will of God in that you might suffer from spiritual blindness …

    • @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953
      @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953 2 года назад +2

      @@laurachitez8938 No,, sau lied,, he was the false apostle/anti-christ,, Acts 21,, saul committed the Abomination of Desolation,, Jesus Said if anyone says they saw Him in the desert,, they are liars,, saul said he saw Jesus in the desert,,,,,,

  • @apostlepaul3363
    @apostlepaul3363 2 года назад +1

    No I did not think of myself as another Christ.

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +3

      Apostate Paul? Hey. We have a few things to talk about.

    • @apostlepaul3363
      @apostlepaul3363 2 года назад

      @@jaylos3094 Let's do it

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +1

      @@apostlepaul3363 Why do the 12 not acknowledge you? Do you know the messiah better than they? Or Peter?

    • @apostlepaul3363
      @apostlepaul3363 2 года назад

      @@jaylos3094 Where did you get that the 12 didn't acknowledge me from?

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +1

      @@apostlepaul3363 You said it.

  • @konstantinerzyaykin8155
    @konstantinerzyaykin8155 2 года назад

    Every believer that has been born again will discover that Yahushua really knew him even before conception in the womb of his mother.
    The simple truth of this matter is this that EVERYTHING WAS CREATED THROUGH THIS LIGHT.
    This is why Paul states that he was known by Yahushua from his mothers womb.
    And Elohim raised him exactly as he wanted: schooled inbthe presence of Gamalliel, knowing TORAH to almost perfection, etc, and just the right time turning Saul 180 decrees to be His chosen instrument.

    • @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953
      @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953 2 года назад +1

      Jesus Said if someone says they saw Him in the desert, they are liars,,, saul said he saw Jesus in the desert,,, nuff said,,,,

  • @pvdguitars2951
    @pvdguitars2951 2 года назад

    Paul, you, me, everyone, we are all called to be part of the body of Christ. There is simply no escaping, that is God’s master plan from the beginning. Jesus Christ, the first of many, many sons, basically everybody! ✝️

  • @duderama6750
    @duderama6750 4 месяца назад

    When was Saul anointed? By whom?
    Anointing with oil by the high priest is the mark of a king. That's what "Christ" means.
    You can't just rhyme it with another word and claim it's the same thing.
    The arrogance of you "scholars" really goes too far.

  • @CristoSaves
    @CristoSaves 2 года назад

    Paul is the exemplified servant leader of repentance and a true conversion . His name was Saul until the Lord stop him as it reads in Acts 9: 1-9
    "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. Saul had a mission to kill Christ followers after all (Jesus Christ disciples).

  • @joesmith7509
    @joesmith7509 2 года назад

    I disagree Lucifer recites God... So no Paul is out throw it in the trash I won't read it and it holds no value to my conversations HE'S OUT...
    Look at the comment I left YHVH wants this known...

  • @tfmtrueformmotivations6463
    @tfmtrueformmotivations6463 Год назад

    "Pick up your cross and follow me"... CS Lewis said we are "little christs"... "put on Christ" "Christ leaving us an example". St. Cyprian states Christus alter Christus, Every Christian is another Christ. all of these and many more text and references suggest than we are to one degree or another "little christs". But to use and or to imply Paul is somehow setting himself aside like a 'hot shot' I think is stretching it, but the point is that we are to imitate Christ and go through our own road to the cross and suffering and crucifixion. but to try and spin the narrative as Pr. Tabor is doing is to stretch it where the narrative becomes deformed and cannot hold the 'stuff' that people are putting into it.

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      By that logic that the early apologist used like that sank you quoted we are all little gods for God has breathe the breath of life into every single one of us; does therefore rendering us all gods, and by this logic we're all Messiahs. Then by that logic we should be able to save ourselves and do not need to be dependent upon a horrific "human sacrifice" for atonement🤔💭

    • @tfmtrueformmotivations6463
      @tfmtrueformmotivations6463 7 месяцев назад

      BINGO!!! But the power is not from our own but from him who is the source of all power lest we boast.

  • @dadedowuh
    @dadedowuh 2 года назад

  • @jesusdeity2010
    @jesusdeity2010 2 года назад

    Paul's teachings are exactly in line with those of Jesus. All healed under his hands on Malta. He knew what he was talking about.
    Through Christ, God gave us back the divine life mankind lost in its fall. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons, we experience up to this day.
    To not see God in Christ.... is impossible.
    "The Father and I are one!"
    "If you see Me, you see the Father!"
    "Don't you believe that the Father is IN Me?"
    "ALL (!) AUTHORITY in heaven and earth has been given to Me!". (Only God has all authority).
    At healing the paralytic: "Your sins have been forgiven you!" (Only God can forgive sins).
    "I am THE (not a) light of the world"......: God.
    "I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance".... Only God can give Zoë life.
    "I am from above, you are from beneath. You are from this world, I am not from this world".....
    Etc, etc, etc,
    When He explained these things, healed the sick, casted out demons, raised the dead, controlled nature for 3 years, they all worshipped Him as God/Messiah.... except for the critical scholars and farisees!
    He NEVER said: "Don't worship Me, I am just a prophet!". The Jews wanted to stone Him because: "You claim to be God".
    So Jesus is God manifesting in Human form. Period. Glad He did. So now we finally know the sayings and actions of God.
    Next step.
    To not see Jesus bringing the divine life of the ages back to you-manity.... is impossible.
    "I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, etc, etc"
    "Follow Me, the miracles I do, you will do too"
    "God is IN you"
    "The Kingdom of God is IN you"
    "He who meets you, meets Me".
    "You and I are one"
    "You will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am in you"
    "See, I have given you power over all the forces of the enemy"
    "I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance!"
    Etc, etc, etc.
    Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons with His first 12+72 friends.
    As i understood these things, i experienced healing miracles and the casting out of demons already thousands of times and many other true believers do too. Yay!
    Conclusion of Paul after having revelation and healing all on Malta: "Jesus, the exact image of the invisible God. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily" and you have been made complete IN Him (the last Adam), who is the head of every principality and power".
    John (who had seen, touched, heard Jesus and walked in the same power and love): "the invisible God manifested in human form, in Christ and now in us".
    Thomas having revelation saying to Jesus: "My Lord and My God!". Jesus being God did NOT correct Him.
    Etc, etc, etc.
    His life totally proves He is God in human form. Begotten by the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God, healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature, raised from the dead, pouring out His Spirit for us to be indwelled by to be empowered to heal the sick and cast out demons, etc, etc, etc.
    Way to much to degrade Him to "just a prophet".
    So... Jesus is the manifestation of God in a human body.... "the Son" of God. He came to take the alienation away mankind got trapped in after the fall. He came to give us back the divine life Adam/mankind lost in its fall.
    Because of this fall, a perfect Holy sacrifice had to be made. That is what God did in Christ! It shows His deep, pure, affectionate passion from Him to you/His creation, to restore you back to origin: Christlikeness. Walking in divine power and unselfish divine love.
    Jesus walked flawless. Muhammed on the other hand....
    Muhammed came after Jesus. He unfortunately never understood God's resolve for mankind's fall, wrote another story, called it the only truth, cutting of the real truth, leading millions astray from their godly identity in Christ. Heartbreaking.
    But for those who take Jesus for who He is and ask to be filled by His godly Holy Spirit.....: divine life. Tangible presence of God, healings, demons running for cover, etc. Just as with His first 12+72 friends.
    God will make you experience the full (godly) Life made possible through Holy Spirit.
    So don't be afraid to leave islam. God can only be found in/through Jesus Christ.
    Ask Him to fill you with His/God's Holy Spirit so He can guide you into truth and transform your life. You and God/Jesus are finally one again. He will open your eyes and give you Zoë (divine life). You will be growing into Him in all things. The life you see in Him and His first 12+72 friends.
    I experience it since 25 years and so will you.

    • @kendalbrenneman
      @kendalbrenneman 2 года назад +4

      Not convincing when you rely on unreliable quotes and stories that weren’t literal or accurate. I was raised in the church and researched the Bible so much that I finally had to leave, because it doesn’t hold up in the way the church wants you to believe it.

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +7

      You follow Paul not the messiah

    • @chad969
      @chad969 2 года назад +3

      Yeah sure, imagine someone asking Paul what they need to be saved and Paul responding “keep the commandments” 😂

    • @bigboy9983
      @bigboy9983 2 года назад +5

      All the big “I am” statements are written in the gospel of John, written very late (at the earliest) of the first century.
      This is where Jesus says that he is god.
      None of these statements are found in Matthew Mark or Luke. How did they miss them???
      This is because as you move through the gospels the story improves and the author leaves you with no doubt that Jesus is God.
      Is John historical? Not in your life.
      It’s theological

    • @jaylos3094
      @jaylos3094 2 года назад +1

      @@chad969 which he doesnt say

  • @the10thman87
    @the10thman87 2 года назад

    Do the christian scholars name this Christ? Surely the man wasn't born with the moniker Jesus Christ/Savior Messiah? Come on, give me the 411 on the man, not the myth. Wait, ha ha. There isn't any man, it' all just myth.

  • @joehinojosa24
    @joehinojosa24 2 года назад

    Derek. There's such a thing as going OFF the Mythmindscape. Your NEXT video will be, Jesus was an extraterrestrial time traveler reincarnated! 👍

  • @joesmith7509
    @joesmith7509 2 года назад

    I love these videos...
    BUT....
    They are shy of a key ingredient... That one thing that hands down calls us out as Christ's ppl...
    I cannot make professional videos but I can give these guys the path to Jesus' truth that YHVH has given me.
    No truth comes from any source except YHVH
    The turning point is now....
    This is what sets Christ's ppl apart from the false apostle Paul
    Antichristianity...
    This is it
    My following comment

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      EvilAngelcals are Christ people and look how they act🤔

  • @rafaelbatista5452
    @rafaelbatista5452 Год назад

    (28 minutes of blasphemy,) as blasphemous as Paul grandiose fake apostle is, If you don't want to see you won't.
    Paul said the law was given by angels, there he gets rid off mount Sinai encounter with all what happened there with Moses. He is enemy of Moses, Yahweh, and he's law, all his preaching is based on lawlessness.
    For Paul there is no judgment day, there is a rapture,
    For Yeshua there is a judgment day but no rapture.
    Here we have an interview with a pharisee that will enhance another pharisee,
    Yeshua's enemies.

    • @mickeydecurious
      @mickeydecurious 7 месяцев назад

      Tabor is not a Pharisee, because Pharisees were like your religious leaders and paper is a scholar.

    • @rafaelbatista5452
      @rafaelbatista5452 7 месяцев назад

      @@mickeydecurious
      A republican is a republican because his beliefs, no matter the position, a democrat is because of his beliefs,.
      A pharisee is a pharisee because agrees and defend False apostle Paul indoctrination.
      Ans before Paul there were pharisees, as after Paul, but the poison spreads, as more people agreed with his doctrine.

  • @thesolarengineer
    @thesolarengineer 2 года назад +3

    Derek. Tabor is a spent force. He has consistently eroded his bona fide for more than twenty years. He is better suited to be selling pencils from a cup at a subway station.

  • @austinjackson4690
    @austinjackson4690 Год назад

    Tabor is deceived and the truth is not in him

  • @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953
    @bigpigslapperoinktoo4953 2 года назад +4

    Jesus Said if someone says they saw Him in the desert, they are liars,,, saul said he saw Jesus in the desert,,, nuff said,,,,

    • @Gre874
      @Gre874 Год назад

      Where is that??

  • @dalex60
    @dalex60 7 месяцев назад

    Jesus never preached heaven as a reward for the saved, he spoke of a restored earth.