I'm a huge Book guy and love my Suns but cannot argue with what Brown has been doing recently. Guys been playing out of his mind on a championship team.
he is for sure a better individual player then brown (what is the point of this list) but hard to show that when one’s a playin team and one was first seed
nah KAT is better imo, hes a much better scorer and defender. Only thing Sabonis has on him is passing. In the playoffs I would 100% take KAT as a second option over Sabonis.
I'd get PG off the debate bc he's become one of the most inconsistent players in the league, like sure, he fills the stat sheets during the regular season, but there's some quarters during those games where he just disappears. He's also not that motivated anymore in the defensive side of the ball. Jimmy and Dame is a toss up for me, it just depends on what you prefer. Jimmy's the most underwhelming star during the regular season, though he does have games where he's undoubtedly Top 10 in the League, but he's your man in the playoffs. Dame's the opposite of Jimmy and is also a liability on defense, but we truly haven't seen him at his best at the Playoffs in terms of winning bc he was stuck in Portland whose best years were during his early years(with Aldridge)
@@PotatoToesMaster ja missed one season due to injury and yall are ready to start saying ppl like ant, halliburton, sga, and brunson are better than him, stay on that same side once ja comes back into mvp talks
@@smtg19im not just saying injuries hes also gotten suspended multiple times he has a problem with staying on the court and ngl i would rather have jalen brunson over ja even if ja is playing his best
Lebron had a great 39-year-old season with a win share per 48 minutes of 164. Very good but not unprecedented. Duncan's was 163, Malone's 182, and Stockton's 200.
That's such a joke. You only say that because lamelo has been injured. Fully healthy lamelo clears easily. Look at his numbers last season pre injury. If you really believe he's better you just don't know ball.
@@itzhakira5022 that’s far-fetched, Jalen Brunson came top 5 in mvp votings with more 40 point games than Donovan, Mitchell and Devin Booker combined, in the playoffs Brunson had 5 40+ point games in the playoffs in 2024, booker had 4 in 2021. Bookers good but not better than Brunson, Jalyn brown is good but not better than Brunson
LaMelo is like Drose at this point, people are gonna keep rating him high until he proves otherwise, because everytime he’s on the court he’s shown us he can play at an all star level, problem is he’s been injured, but until he plays badly, there’s no reason to think he won’t get better.
It’s not crazy, SGA has been in the league for years, problem is so many of you are casuals and didn’t even know who SGA was until he was on OKC because you don’t watch the NBA. Most “fans” don’t even have NBA league pass, and only watch local games on cable a few times a season. Where as real fans have league pass every year and watch full out of market games for all 32 teams throughout the entire season. That’s half the reason basketball discussions end up full of idiots, most watch less than 20 full games a year and less than 5 teams and learn everything else on the internet.
Luka can retire as early as 25 and already be considered to have a HOF career is nuts. Aside from a championship which he don't have, the amount of NBA records he has is crazy
Put SGA is way better. Tatum was blessed that he is on a better team. SGA is a leader of a team with no playoff experience. SGA is also a better defender. SGA is way more efficient and despite the exit, he was playing great, averaging 30 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, over 1.5 steals and over a block per game. He is capable of leading a team to a championship.
Shai isn’t a better defender he’s just better at getting steals, and Shai’s shot diet allows his efficiency numbers to be higher because it’s easier to make 2s than 3s. Shai has also never had to sacrifice as he has no one to take the ball out of his hands or take shots away from him.
27 is Brunson not close he was sixth in mvp and you didn’t even put him in the conversation. When all of the other guys didn’t even make an all nba team.
After watching joker and Luka lack of defense in the playoffs , to me MVP should always take in consideration defense . Otherwise the MVP should change the name to top offensive player .
Giannis is better than jokic when healthy. Obviously jokic gets the nod in a ranking being reigning "mvp" ( should be luka), but giannis and embiid when healthy are the 2 best players in the league
since we comparing finals and all that book has 2 medals how much Jaylen brown got? And Kyrie is not the best 2nd option in the league. that could be like booker, Jaylen brown, or other guys
I would take year 10 dbook. Played for garbage saver suns. Never asked for anything but help to get better, take our team to the playoffs and beyond. He's a way better defender than he gets credit for, and is asked so much on offense that he doesn't have the luxury of playing defense like the putz in Boston. He is the franchise in Phoenix, no disrespect to cupcake. He got two golds, came off the bench in his one season in college and is still the best player in his class. He will show MVP form again this season. Go suns
just saying booker has better stats than Jaylen brown and booker is a way better scorer and booker isn’t the best defender but he can still stop the other team from scoring
Anyone who’s not special needs like yourself knows that Shai is a better player right now. He’s just turned 26 and is finally on a great team he’s got plenty of time to rack up some postseason wins. You’re a 🤡
He gets carried by Derrick White in the first round and wnd round lmzo then Jaylen Brown in the later rounds. Shai averaged 32/9/9 on elite efficiency versus the Mavs but his teammates choked. Tell me what Tatum did vs the Mavs? Again, tell me what did Tatum do vs the Mavs? Statpad in the 5th game, gets carried By Brown in the 1st 3 wins. Tatum shooting 35%fg in the 1st 3 lol. What does Tatum do better than Shai aside from rebounds? 😂 Even Tatum got benched in team USA because he was getting cooked by Yabusele lol and he was 0-16 in jumpshots. Embarrassing meanwhile Shai was shooting 65%fg with Canada.
My picks: 19- GG Jackson 20- Wemby 21- Paolo 22- Chet 23- Ant 24- Haliburton 25- Luka 26- Shai 27- Booker 28- KAT 29- Jokic 30- Embiid 31- AD 32- Kyrie 33- Kawhi 34- Dame 35- KD 36- Steph 37- Jeff Green 38- Mike Conley 39- LeBron
@@realityblooddummy. ANT is a better playoff performer and defender. Thinking Basketball said ANT is the 9th best player in the league this 2024 and projected him to be top 5 next year. You don't know ball. He was #1 in RAPTOR in 2023 AND 2024 PLAYOFFS.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 maxey literally lit up the best defense in the playoffs and made a shot to win game 5 ant never hits so that playoff argument is already wrong. maxey is a worse defender but he’s better at almost anything else. gimme him
Olympic performance does not equal the NBA. LeBron was the best Olympic player and won MVP because he lead and performed best for the team. In the NBA though, he's top 11-7 ish.
@@kohsmoger1567 Depends. Steph only performed well for the last 2 games while LeBron was consistent. LeBron won because he was putting up consistent numbers, and overall had better stats than curry. Although curry also has narrative reasons on him, being team usa's hero for those 2 games and being the reason they won gold. They both deserve it tbh.
@@HyperVentilation-d6f Those two games were the only ones USA was challenged. Those games were also the most important and Steph had other games where he didn’t attempt much but was efficient
Tatum is better for sure. A NBA champion who shuts down the Mav one-five pick and roll. the defense of big wings is way more impactful than the defense of a guard imo,. You also put Brown over Mitchel because Brown win the championship and Mitchel only did the 2nd round, but on the other hand you put SGA who also only did 2nd round exit over Tatum, a little bit inconsistency there in your logic
west exit vs east cake walk competition matters, which is why Tatum was garbage in the finals offensively and olympics why they benched him not wanting to risk only getting silver, bronze
20 is crazy for Wemby when you don’t think about it it just seems like he’s much older if the NBA is in trouble if he can stay healthy for the majority of his career!
Dame is washed no one would take him over PG or Jimmy. I don't like Booker but he's better than Brown, Celtics is stacked Tatum, Jrue and White anyone of them can win that FMVP.
I’d have to go with Booker at 27, definitely a tough choice though
Nah Brunson is better
@@franklingroup5460facts
I'm a huge Book guy and love my Suns but cannot argue with what Brown has been doing recently. Guys been playing out of his mind on a championship team.
he is for sure a better individual player then brown (what is the point of this list) but hard to show that when one’s a playin team and one was first seed
@@JmssBraendleSuns we’re not a playin team
Disrespect to Tatum. He’s 19
Edit: Bro, of course this joke is corny. That’s why it’s a joke 💀
@@loschankos554 it’s a joke though 💀 I know he’s 26
@@freshnaproductions2105no disrespect but the joke isn’t funny anymore
This joke is just corny atp
exactly what i said
Corny aah overused cornball joke.
Sabonis is better than KAT at 28
Agreed.
Facts
nah KAT is better imo, hes a much better scorer and defender. Only thing Sabonis has on him is passing. In the playoffs I would 100% take KAT as a second option over Sabonis.
Sabonis 😂😂😂
This my friend is an L take
Jimmy & PG > Dame
Can’t forget Defense matters too.
Dame is still more valuable than
I'd get PG off the debate bc he's become one of the most inconsistent players in the league, like sure, he fills the stat sheets during the regular season, but there's some quarters during those games where he just disappears. He's also not that motivated anymore in the defensive side of the ball.
Jimmy and Dame is a toss up for me, it just depends on what you prefer. Jimmy's the most underwhelming star during the regular season, though he does have games where he's undoubtedly Top 10 in the League, but he's your man in the playoffs. Dame's the opposite of Jimmy and is also a liability on defense, but we truly haven't seen him at his best at the Playoffs in terms of winning bc he was stuck in Portland whose best years were during his early years(with Aldridge)
Booker at 27 easily!! Otherwise, I have really no disagreements with this list 👌
ja clears halliburton on litterly every single statistic and attribute known to man, recency bias is a crazy drug
But ja isn’t reliable enough I would way rather have Hali because at least i know he will actually play games
@@PotatoToesMaster ja missed one season due to injury and yall are ready to start saying ppl like ant, halliburton, sga, and brunson are better than him, stay on that same side once ja comes back into mvp talks
@@smtg19im not just saying injuries hes also gotten suspended multiple times he has a problem with staying on the court and ngl i would rather have jalen brunson over ja even if ja is playing his best
@@PotatoToesMaster name one thing brunson does well over ja
@@smtg19 shoot
Sengun and Sabonis snubbed
Tatum got snubbed at 19
ikr tatum is by far the best 19 year old and has been top 10 player ever since he was drafted age 12
Corny aah overused cornball joke
@@OCLProductionz that’s why it’s a joke 💀
Facts and I don’t like him but 5x all star by 19
Lebron had a great 39-year-old season with a win share per 48 minutes of 164. Very good but not unprecedented. Duncan's was 163, Malone's 182, and Stockton's 200.
Alperen Sengun at 22 definitely better than lamelo
I can't believe that they are people Who are thinking otherwise.
That's such a joke. You only say that because lamelo has been injured. Fully healthy lamelo clears easily. Look at his numbers last season pre injury. If you really believe he's better you just don't know ball.
@@guibblegabble1280"the best ability is availability" stop with the if he was healthy yap
@engr.reyes3 the question isn't who is the best always healthy player is simply the best and melo clears all day so shhh
@@guibblegabble1280 Who? Who is this healthy Lamelo Ball you speak of?
I'm a Celtics fan but Shai is definitely better than Tatum and D-Book and D-Mitch are both BETTER than JB.
Better as in better player, not resume.
Shai has never been better than Tatum but I will agree Booker is better than Brown, Mitchell is a better #1 option but not a better player overall
@@miklesolano Shai is right now and he was last season. I'm not a delusional fan and gonna say Tatum is better because, let's be honest... he's not.
Hell nah. Offensively? Sure, Booker and Mitchell are better scorers. Defensively, Brown is miles better.
why ain’t Brunson in the 27 convo
@@itzhakira5022he’s definitely better than brown but not better than book imo
Clears all of them@@itzhakira5022
@@itzhakira5022 that’s far-fetched, Jalen Brunson came top 5 in mvp votings with more 40 point games than Donovan, Mitchell and Devin Booker combined, in the playoffs Brunson had 5 40+ point games in the playoffs in 2024, booker had 4 in 2021. Bookers good but not better than Brunson, Jalyn brown is good but not better than Brunson
Brunson Isn’t a two way player
@@itzhakira5022learn ball
I think you’re a little high on LaMelo Ball
Who should have been on his place?
He dickrides lamelo when he’s played barely any games the last 2 years
LaMelo is like Drose at this point, people are gonna keep rating him high until he proves otherwise, because everytime he’s on the court he’s shown us he can play at an all star level, problem is he’s been injured, but until he plays badly, there’s no reason to think he won’t get better.
The dropoff from Steph Curry to Jeff Green is insane
Bro Luka is YOUNGER than SGA? That’s crazy.
It's not.
They were from the same draft buddy.
that is not crazy at all
It’s not crazy, SGA has been in the league for years, problem is so many of you are casuals and didn’t even know who SGA was until he was on OKC because you don’t watch the NBA. Most “fans” don’t even have NBA league pass, and only watch local games on cable a few times a season. Where as real fans have league pass every year and watch full out of market games for all 32 teams throughout the entire season. That’s half the reason basketball discussions end up full of idiots, most watch less than 20 full games a year and less than 5 teams and learn everything else on the internet.
Luka can retire as early as 25 and already be considered to have a HOF career is nuts. Aside from a championship which he don't have, the amount of NBA records he has is crazy
34 give me jimmy freaking butler/ jimmy buckets
Jimmy over dame he lead his team to the finals twice
Put SGA is way better. Tatum was blessed that he is on a better team. SGA is a leader of a team with no playoff experience. SGA is also a better defender. SGA is way more efficient and despite the exit, he was playing great, averaging 30 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, over 1.5 steals and over a block per game. He is capable of leading a team to a championship.
Shai isn’t a better defender he’s just better at getting steals, and Shai’s shot diet allows his efficiency numbers to be higher because it’s easier to make 2s than 3s. Shai has also never had to sacrifice as he has no one to take the ball out of his hands or take shots away from him.
@@miklesolano u are stupid bro
Way better is a stretch, he's better but they put up the same stats pretty much and one plays great defense. This year sga, next year could be tatum
Dame over PG and Jimmy is insane ngl
Jimmy yeah but not pg.
Not really lmao dame is a great piece to any contender. If he was on the heat he would be the number one option not jimmy
27 is Brunson not close he was sixth in mvp and you didn’t even put him in the conversation. When all of the other guys didn’t even make an all nba team.
Tatum makes a good case for best 26 year old when you consider he does all that at only 19. A lot of people forget that
Giannis and jokic is like a tie it could go either way tbh
No it couldn't. Current MVP >>>. Be fr now, you wouldn't say it is close when Giannis was the reign MVP
Jokic clears if you watch them both play basketball
Healthy Giannis is 2nd place to Joker but can he even stay Healthy?
Giannis has better defense
After watching joker and Luka lack of defense in the playoffs , to me MVP should always take in consideration defense . Otherwise the MVP should change the name to top offensive player .
SROS right after Statics class
Giannis is better than jokic when healthy. Obviously jokic gets the nod in a ranking being reigning "mvp" ( should be luka), but giannis and embiid when healthy are the 2 best players in the league
Booker disrespect has gone too far now. One season and people forgot that he has been the best shooting guard in the NBA for a few years now.
tbf I think its less people being low on Booker and being high on jaylen brown
Brunson Better Than Brown For 27
Booker
@@kjjr3270 Wdym
Fr
Lol no
@@themindempowered would you rather have a top 2 option or a top 1 option
since we comparing finals and all that book has 2 medals how much Jaylen brown got? And Kyrie is not the best 2nd option in the league. that could be like booker, Jaylen brown, or other guys
I would go with jimmy for 34 year olds because he’s a two way player and a top 10 player in the playoffs
Is lamelo really better than Sengun though
I would take year 10 dbook. Played for garbage saver suns. Never asked for anything but help to get better, take our team to the playoffs and beyond. He's a way better defender than he gets credit for, and is asked so much on offense that he doesn't have the luxury of playing defense like the putz in Boston. He is the franchise in Phoenix, no disrespect to cupcake. He got two golds, came off the bench in his one season in college and is still the best player in his class. He will show MVP form again this season. Go suns
Who is the runner up for all of these
After Luka exposed Booker in the playoffs he wasn’t the same
Tatum is definitely the best player that's 19. He just won a chip for godsakes.
3:46 if he can put a healthy year lol just include injury risk as a metric for judging players
Agreed. ElMelo isn't even that hood. He's exciting but he's not a winner. Chet Holmgren immediately made a difference to the OKC on BOTH ends
Hali is the best 6 year old
Jaylen Brown over Jalen Brunson???
just saying booker has better stats than Jaylen brown and booker is a way better scorer and booker isn’t the best defender but he can still stop the other team from scoring
Is this dude watching the same NBA as us😭
No disrespect to Jalen Brown but its Booker for me all day
disrespect to bron saying he a top 15 player, he’s top 10 arguably be top 7
Tyrese maxey?
Mike Conley the best 37 year old lmaooo
Idk how you can say Gg Jackson is a better 19 year old then Tatum
14:03 only top 15? I can only think of 5 definite players better than him I think hes still top 10 atleast
so by that logic finals mvp iguodala better than charles barkley
Jalen Brunson snubbed
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He’s definitely better than Jaylen Brown and Booker
@@Statslamstatswow hot take
i’d take
Ja over tyreese
Booker over Brown
Sabonis over KAT
PG over Dame
Lillard cant be in the same convo as pg and jimmy lol
Bro is the new lostunbound
I would want jimmy butler on my team over dame and pg13
Jaylen Brown over Jalen Brunson for age 27??? That’s complete dumbassery
Thank U brotha for putting GG in there love that guy I hope he becomes the next Lebron or some thin 😅😊😂🎉❤ love the vids man
Chomche is going to be nuts
The scouting in Africa is almost non existent outside of the Raptors and Masai
Tatum already has more playoff success than shai will have in his entire career looooooool shai has never done anything in the league
Anyone who’s not special needs like yourself knows that Shai is a better player right now. He’s just turned 26 and is finally on a great team he’s got plenty of time to rack up some postseason wins. You’re a 🤡
He gets carried by Derrick White in the first round and wnd round lmzo then Jaylen Brown in the later rounds. Shai averaged 32/9/9 on elite efficiency versus the Mavs but his teammates choked. Tell me what Tatum did vs the Mavs?
Again, tell me what did Tatum do vs the Mavs? Statpad in the 5th game, gets carried By Brown in the 1st 3 wins. Tatum shooting 35%fg in the 1st 3 lol. What does Tatum do better than Shai aside from rebounds? 😂 Even Tatum got benched in team USA because he was getting cooked by Yabusele lol and he was 0-16 in jumpshots. Embarrassing meanwhile Shai was shooting 65%fg with Canada.
Brunson should have been 27
D book and Donovan Mitchell are both better than Jaylen brown, don’t let Jaylen brown having good team mates cloud your judgment
I’m taking jimmy when healthy
Availability is the best ability. Chet >>>>> Lamelo
Jaylen brown take is a huge miss. Easily mitchell
Brunson > both
Giannis is the best 29 year old. He’s the best player in the league
My picks:
19- GG Jackson
20- Wemby
21- Paolo
22- Chet
23- Ant
24- Haliburton
25- Luka
26- Shai
27- Booker
28- KAT
29- Jokic
30- Embiid
31- AD
32- Kyrie
33- Kawhi
34- Dame
35- KD
36- Steph
37- Jeff Green
38- Mike Conley
39- LeBron
maxey > ant
@@realityblooddummy. ANT is a better playoff performer and defender. Thinking Basketball said ANT is the 9th best player in the league this 2024 and projected him to be top 5 next year. You don't know ball. He was #1 in RAPTOR in 2023 AND 2024 PLAYOFFS.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 maxey literally lit up the best defense in the playoffs and made a shot to win game 5 ant never hits so that playoff argument is already wrong. maxey is a worse defender but he’s better at almost anything else. gimme him
conley is 36 and will turn 37 in october
@@lifeisshørt_420my b id go Al Horford for 38 then
U need honorable mentions bro
The fact you’d say Lebron is a top 15 player then say he was the best player during the Olympics is contradicting
Olympic performance does not equal the NBA. LeBron was the best Olympic player and won MVP because he lead and performed best for the team. In the NBA though, he's top 11-7 ish.
@@HyperVentilation-d6fI think Steph should have won mvp for the Olympics
@@kohsmoger1567 Depends. Steph only performed well for the last 2 games while LeBron was consistent. LeBron won because he was putting up consistent numbers, and overall had better stats than curry. Although curry also has narrative reasons on him, being team usa's hero for those 2 games and being the reason they won gold. They both deserve it tbh.
@@HyperVentilation-d6f Those two games were the only ones USA was challenged. Those games were also the most important and Steph had other games where he didn’t attempt much but was efficient
@@kohsmoger1567 Not tryna debate🙏 They both deserve MVP, prolly KD too. Steph probably lost because he had bad games earlier.
Lamelo shouldn’t be the best. There are better options. He’s always injured
donovan mitchell deserves 27
Shai over Tatum is crazy ngl
N ima mavs fan
Shai is very good but he play basically iso ball Tatum plays all around better
U are high as hell bro. Tatum is a horrible shot chucker. He benefits from playing on the Celtics. Even when Tatum does bad, they win.
Your editor is good
Tatum is better for sure. A NBA champion who shuts down the Mav one-five pick and roll. the defense of big wings is way more impactful than the defense of a guard imo,. You also put Brown over Mitchel because Brown win the championship and Mitchel only did the 2nd round, but on the other hand you put SGA who also only did 2nd round exit over Tatum, a little bit inconsistency there in your logic
Tatum wasn’t even the best player on the team during their run last year. Shai was second in mvp
Voting, stop being a biased Celtics fan
@@Zay-y6m use logic please. 2nd round exit better than champion then why Mitchell can’t beat Brown?
@@zihenghe7462 brown should be over Mitchell yes, but shai was also 2nd in mvp voting, Tatum was 6th. Shai is better this is a fact
west exit vs east cake walk competition matters, which is why Tatum was garbage in the finals offensively and olympics
why they benched him not wanting to risk only getting silver, bronze
No way embiid is already 30😮
Jaylen Brown over Booker? Hella nah…
GG JACKSON THE GOAT
Isn’t KD older than Curry?
No curry is older
TATUM IS EEASILY THE BEST 26 YR OLD
Giannis has always been better than Jokic
No giannis is criminal
cade cunningham might be better than lamelo.
27 is easily brunson
who else saw lamelo traveling
Tatum has always been better than Shai
34 are all chokers 😭 still amazing players tho. I really want Jimmy to get a ring. Bro was right there twice...
How is dame a choker?
gambling ad = good bye
Shai
Dame over Jimmy 😂
pg and lillard r both better than jimmy
Bro if dame was traded to the heat he would be the first option not jimmy
I love your videos just got the notification
Excuse me?
GOAT?
Crazy LeBron still playing at an elite level at that age
20 is crazy for Wemby when you don’t think about it it just seems like he’s much older if the NBA is in trouble if he can stay healthy for the majority of his career!
Dame is washed no one would take him over PG or Jimmy.
I don't like Booker but he's better than Brown, Celtics is stacked Tatum, Jrue and White anyone of them can win that FMVP.
Give me cade over lamelo
Maxey over. Hali
SGA over Tatum LMAO
Tatum and Shai is so close
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE THE THUNDER GO THUNDER GO SGA
Brown is worse than booker Mitchell and Brunson
Shai is not better than Tatum
Giannis better
You glaze banchero so much in a lot of your vids
Banchero is apart of the future of the NBA, gotta show support to him.
Bro u put brown if brunson and didn’t even mention Brunson wtf
Lamelo Ball is a bust and a big one