MEP-type players expose a very common problem among recreational players: we can't generate pace off a slow ball, especially if that slow ball is at knee height or lower. Recreational players often feed off each other's pace, hitting harder and harder and it makes us feel good about our games. But when confronted with a slow, low, sliced ball, we fall apart and dump the ball to the net or hit out. You need the ability to read spin, correct footwork and sound stroke mechanic to hit a strong shot off a slow slice. Or you'll be forced to slice back too, and potentially play into their game.
Yup, a key to tennis is "take time away from your opponent" and these guys give themselves time by hitting the ball so slowly that they can easily recover good court position between every shot. Meanwhile opponents have trouble generating pace off the slow, low balls as you describe. Finally, although receiving short balls should be an advantage, rec players who aren't actively training and doing drills don't get a lot of reps attacking awkwardly-placed balls in the middle of no-man's land and tend to mess them up.
This is an excellent comment and excellent sub-comment. If you want to see the exact opposite of a recreational player playing MEP, look at the match with the 12yr old high ranking junior player. His match against MEP was literally like the textbook roadmap for how to beat MEP-type players.
@@timefly4221 MEP's forehand punch shot goes as fast as most rec player's topspin forehand, and he can generate the pace himself off a slow ball, even a short, low ball.
@@joemarshall4226 I agree with the first part, MEP can generate a relatively fast ball when he needs to. But you lost me on the second part, I have only seen him doing drop shot on a low and short ball (his favorite tactic). Hitting a hard shot on a low and short ball is difficult even for pro players, let alone recreational players. But I may be wrong, maybe he has really done it though. And maybe we just have different ranges of what we consider low, short, or hard.
I would add that MEP type and lower level recreational players are not comfortable or skilled when they are drawn into the “ no man’s “ area of the court. They move five or six feet inside the baseline then want to retreat back to the baseline. The have not developed the approach shot skills to advance to the net on a well placed shot to set up their net game.
I feel like these guys played like they were being paid by the hour... LOL Mr. Green played more aggressively, trying to get to the net more than Ben did and made more mistakes as a consequence. He moved really well around the court, though. Between the 2 of them, there was only a handful of dropshots that lead to winning points. Very surprising with as many as they both hit. Overall, they are really similar in style, obviously. I think Green MEP was the More Exhausted Player at the end, though. He seemed to expend a lot more energy then Ben did which was pretty evident in the second set... Bottom line is either one of these guys would have eaten my lunch.... LOL
Funny you say that. I have a similar game to MEP ,and have made quite a good transition to P-Ball (still play both, plus ping pong). My forehand slice return of serve is a big weapon in PB. And the drop shot skills translate well to dinks in PB, also.
Great game. The original MEP/Green Shirt Guy takes it! Thank you TTC as always for the upload and the entertainment, including Ben and Travlerajm. Cheers! MM
2:57 yellow shirt: haha, he pushes the ball away like there are ball boys going to pick it up or something ???? You have to chase the ball anyway so why not place it in your pocket or roll it to the net. I found that amusing.
MEP Seattle isn’t a full fledged MEP in my opinion. 1) He often tried to win points buy using pace. That’s a cardinal sin amongst true MEPs. 2) He has a conventional service motion. Actually a lot of 4.0 players would be happy to have one as good. He tried to disguise his orthodox service motion by mixing in some low head high toss side spin serves. But he’s not fooling anyone. 3) His overhead technique was totally un MEP like. Proper technique if I ever saw any. Not even a slight forehand grip to make a small attempt at looking unorthodox. 4) No ungainly footwork at all. Plus he showed signs of being tired. How does he expect to play marathon MEP type points over a long haul? Original MEP exposed Seattle MEP for what he truly is. Basically a conventional player with MEP tendencies.
The MEP secret weapon is boring their opponents to death. To keep mentally engaged, opponents will start going for winners just so they can feel like they had some semblance of fun in the match. This likely leads to missed shots and maybe losing the match to MEP. The result is the MEP thinks he's a good tennis player because he won, and the other player is happy to lose trying for winners rather than dying of boredom.
😂😂 Battle of the MEP’sI just started watching the series about a month ago of these battles and they’re awesome . And Ben Is the man the myth the legend. He takes people places they don’t want to go. 😂
Being pretty old myself, what I realize is that old guys in general play the same basic game that they did when they were young. they might add nuance here or there, but if they were big hitters, they still hit big,a nd if they were slicers, they still slice, etc.
It's funny because if you saw these guys playing at a local court you'd think they were a couple of 3.0 players who were just coming out to smack the ball around for a workout. You can't really see the terrifying nature of having to play against them if you don't see them on the court with a "traditional" 4.0 or 4.5 player and realize just how hard that style of play is to face, particularly when they have the skill and movement to extend rallies and force that extra ball.
Well, MEP opponent, he talks often on message boards about his tennis and racket service, he's only played Mixed 8.0 40 and over the past 3 years (about 6 matches each year), he's about a 3.5 18 and over player.
I played one not too long ago. I beat him easily in first set but got tired in second and it was closer than it should have been. Luckily I pulled out the win and got my cardio in for the day!
Maybe one idea for ET video is discussing MEP Seattle’s and Sapfo Sakellaridi’s side arm serve (a viewer mentioned Seattle’s serve looks like Sapfo). After looking her up, she’s a 19 year old ranked in the top 400 in singles and dubs. Might see her on tv one day.
@@DanTuber The MEP videos are by far the most popular on the amateur tennis websites. This is not boring at all. Watching two guys bash the ball and miss every third shot is boring.
@@TennisTrollChannel You know, i had an idea watching Serena play Aga Radwanska once upon a time. Srena won in two close sets, but Aga won most of the rallies. IT was Serena's serve and return which got her to the finish line. Aga would hit some pretty good first serves, and Serena would just put them away with one powerful swing. She was jsut killing those returns. I thought to myself: If Aga had some other kind of serve....a backspin slice. a big topspin...anything...just to give serena a different look, she might be able to get into a rally at least, since her defensive skills were so good. i've been known to try those gimmicks myself, but I'm playing at a much lower level, of course....
MEP Green had his chances in that first set....but way too many unforced nonchalant errors, and some lazy foot work after a while....notice how Ben has great footwork through the whole match, and doesn't take "easy" shots for granted....when he gave up that break to go down 2-4 after leading in that game, things started to go down hill, and he never recovered....didn't hustle in the second set like in the first. Too many missed droppers by Green also....that short arm forehand slice needs to be refined......In answer to the wuestion, "Is this tennis?" ABSOLUTELY! This is how tennis was designed to be played.....creativity, strategy, variety, hustle, fitness....move the opponenet all over the court, and run everything down! Play the percentages.....
this is entertaining. Seattle actually has nice volleys and overheads. But his physical fitness and mental toughness fall behind Ben's. One thing I've noticed is that Ben is very good at that awkward game when there's a drop shot and both of you are close to the net. Often, we practice groundies but little time w/ that situation of dropshot (though I have on occasion seen some guys do a game where they drop a ball of the net and play it out)
Good observation. That is the disruptor's game...or sabotage tennis....you take awy the big power game, and force the opponent to play cat and mouse tennis, where hopefully, you have the edge. The top power players will also have good cat and mouse skills, however....
Green shirt guy has one of the nastiest slices on that deuce side I've seen for MEP style player. He really needs to follow through with a crosscourt short on that. It would be perfect combo.
All those hours spent discussing wristband effects on swingweight, shortened racquets, gorilla tape, kevlar strings, modifying racquets for pro players, posting anti Djokovic hate on talk tennis.... only to get bageled by the original MEP.... PRICELESS !
yeah, there's no shame to lose to a MEP player, but I looked at some of those threads and he's talking about adding weight or doing this and now he's blasting FH winners and beating his teaching pro, and then I see how he hits a FH... It's like the best antidote for tinkering w/ racquets/strings...
top grinding of course and I wish I could have the same nerve and stamina but it gets repetitive though, after a while I caught myself watching the match next court white vs red way more interesting :)
The lack of technique is made up by good footwork and overview. However, the lack of any top-spin is really curious. But who cares as long as you are not an professional, it’s all about making less errors than the opponent 😅
I think this is the style of tennis that Bobby Riggs invented in his "declining years". Basically how he beat Margaret Court - junk shots, lots of moving the ball around the court, changing pace all the time. Doesn't make it watchable though. 😂
I think if you're watching this match from the side as a 4.5 because you're up against the winner and then get baked by MEP, you feel pretty awful. Unorthodox against orthodox is pretty entertaining but two MEP style players is just one too many. MEP Seattle shows why topspin exists: it allows you to add speed and height while the ball will still dip inside the court. With backspin you need to play slow balls or low balls and that's high risk. Many orthodox players focus on the attacking aspect of topspin, as the ball will jump forward. That's true but essentially topspin is a safety measure.
Ok I know I'm going to get ambushed with this comment, but I'm just pointing something out. It's hard to believe green is 4.5. He hits a lot of short floaters that a "normal" 4.5 would easily put away. At least Ben keeps it pretty deep or low when he hits shorter, so you have much less to work with.
I think he would beat a LOT of 4.5s. he can hit hard off both sides, has a great overhead, and obviously has lot of junk. Also very quick. Ben just wore him out and out-concentrated him.
He's not, he chats often on the message boards, he's played exclusively 8.0 mixed 40 and over the past few years, about 7 matches per year, nothing else official. He's about a 5 UTR doubles with no singles UTR. I'd say he is a middle or low 4.0.
In the second set, it looks like Seattle tried to start powering the ball a bit more. Playing MEP is like being in quicksand. The more you try, the faster you go down. I’m familiar with the tactic of trying to power-up though. But there was nothing that could be done. The only players that beat MEP have Knock-Out shot-making. US Open John, etc. Just mention the name of one player dilly-dallying around against MEP. He beats them all.
US OPen John beat MEP after MEP was two points from the match. Ben took away his big game, and John actually resorted to playing a slow game, and just outlasted Ben. His big shots were pretty useless. I think they played a re-match, and Ben won in straight sets.....but I could be mixing him up with someone else.
I think this is a common misperception with playing MEP. And any style could work, just need to execute. John was losing playing impatiently and not very smart. He switched to playing patient tennis. He’s much more athletic than MEP and his strokes were still much better even when dialing it down. It’s ok to play your own style whatever that is, but everyone needs some sort of consistency. It should only take 1-2 big shots to get MEP in a compromising position if the point is still alive, but you still have to execute those 1-2 shots and then the putaway ball if necessary. MEP will usually force you to do this.
95% of her 1st serves and 100% of her 2nd serves are like that. She's recently climbed up to top 340 WTA rank or so. She just lost a match against young 15 year old talent Brenda Fruhvirtova, who trains in Mouratoglou Academy. Sapfo won the 1st set! Her opponnents obviously have to figure out how to deal with this serve that never wins aces, nor double faults.
@@Volkl30 I don’t know if it’s better/worse. It’s a unique technique that’s effective at getting a neutral return. I hope to show by end of February/early March.
@@olfam7197 what level do you play? Unless you're 4.5 and above, perhaps you should come and challenge me and my 4.0 guys. This community would love to watch it, I'm sure
All these clowns are displaying is the benefits of modern technology. Have MEP play a classically taught 4.5 with a Jack Kramer. He will turn into a 3.0 reeeeaaaalll fast.
MEP-type players expose a very common problem among recreational players: we can't generate pace off a slow ball, especially if that slow ball is at knee height or lower. Recreational players often feed off each other's pace, hitting harder and harder and it makes us feel good about our games. But when confronted with a slow, low, sliced ball, we fall apart and dump the ball to the net or hit out. You need the ability to read spin, correct footwork and sound stroke mechanic to hit a strong shot off a slow slice. Or you'll be forced to slice back too, and potentially play into their game.
Yup, a key to tennis is "take time away from your opponent" and these guys give themselves time by hitting the ball so slowly that they can easily recover good court position between every shot. Meanwhile opponents have trouble generating pace off the slow, low balls as you describe. Finally, although receiving short balls should be an advantage, rec players who aren't actively training and doing drills don't get a lot of reps attacking awkwardly-placed balls in the middle of no-man's land and tend to mess them up.
This is an excellent comment and excellent sub-comment. If you want to see the exact opposite of a recreational player playing MEP, look at the match with the 12yr old high ranking junior player. His match against MEP was literally like the textbook roadmap for how to beat MEP-type players.
@@timefly4221 MEP's forehand punch shot goes as fast as most rec player's topspin forehand, and he can generate the pace himself off a slow ball, even a short, low ball.
@@joemarshall4226 I agree with the first part, MEP can generate a relatively fast ball when he needs to. But you lost me on the second part, I have only seen him doing drop shot on a low and short ball (his favorite tactic). Hitting a hard shot on a low and short ball is difficult even for pro players, let alone recreational players. But I may be wrong, maybe he has really done it though. And maybe we just have different ranges of what we consider low, short, or hard.
I would add that MEP type and lower level recreational players are not comfortable or skilled when they are drawn into the “ no man’s “ area of the court. They move five or six feet inside the baseline then want to retreat back to the baseline. The have not developed the approach shot skills to advance to the net on a well placed shot to set up their net game.
Once the camera's stopped rolling, MEP absorbed his Seattle doppelganger because there can be only one.
Judging from MEP-S’s progressively labored movement, I’d guess it was 115 degrees out with about 85% humidity.
One does not simply walk into Mordor.
There is only one MEP. Long may he reign.
I feel like these guys played like they were being paid by the hour... LOL
Mr. Green played more aggressively, trying to get to the net more than Ben did and made more mistakes as a consequence. He moved really well around the court, though.
Between the 2 of them, there was only a handful of dropshots that lead to winning points. Very surprising with as many as they both hit.
Overall, they are really similar in style, obviously. I think Green MEP was the More Exhausted Player at the end, though. He seemed to expend a lot more energy then Ben did which was pretty evident in the second set...
Bottom line is either one of these guys would have eaten my lunch.... LOL
IMO this is the purest tennis I have seen.
This is like two final bosses facing each other Lol
Not sure if this was the most enjoyable or the most painful game to watch. Love the “fruit ninja” service from MEP Seatle.
The ultimate irony of this video is that it was interupted by a Top Court ad with Nick Kygrios.
💀
Those two would make a lethal pickleball team.
I was even thinking, at times it looked like someone had given pickleball players tennis rackets for the first time!
Actually, the real weapon of MEP (the real one) is his movement and fitness. Not sure if he can take advantage of that with pickleball.
Funny you say that. I have a similar game to MEP ,and have made quite a good transition to P-Ball (still play both, plus ping pong). My forehand slice return of serve is a big weapon in PB. And the drop shot skills translate well to dinks in PB, also.
Great game. The original MEP/Green Shirt Guy takes it!
Thank you TTC as always for the upload and the entertainment, including Ben and Travlerajm.
Cheers!
MM
2:57 yellow shirt: haha, he pushes the ball away like there are ball boys going to pick it up or something ???? You have to chase the ball anyway so why not place it in your pocket or roll it to the net. I found that amusing.
MEP Seattle isn’t a full fledged MEP in my opinion. 1) He often tried to win points buy using pace. That’s a cardinal sin amongst true MEPs. 2) He has a conventional service motion. Actually a lot of 4.0 players would be happy to have one as good. He tried to disguise his orthodox service motion by mixing in some low head high toss side spin serves. But he’s not fooling anyone. 3) His overhead technique was totally un MEP like. Proper technique if I ever saw any. Not even a slight forehand grip to make a small attempt at looking unorthodox. 4) No ungainly footwork at all. Plus he showed signs of being tired. How does he expect to play marathon MEP type points over a long haul?
Original MEP exposed Seattle MEP for what he truly is. Basically a conventional player with MEP tendencies.
The MEP secret weapon is boring their opponents to death. To keep mentally engaged, opponents will start going for winners just so they can feel like they had some semblance of fun in the match. This likely leads to missed shots and maybe losing the match to MEP. The result is the MEP thinks he's a good tennis player because he won, and the other player is happy to lose trying for winners rather than dying of boredom.
I could be wrong but I think this is paddle board played on a tennis court.
Unforced errors are low. Fairly long rallies. It is old man tennis. Nothing wrong with that,
I've beaten a lot of young guys with old man tennis...even when I was young! LOL
@@joemarshall4226 I agree. Fewer errors usually wins.
😂😂 Battle of the MEP’sI just started watching the series about a month ago of these battles and they’re awesome . And Ben Is the man the myth the legend. He takes people places they don’t want to go. 😂
Even an MEP can't out-MEP the MEP.
This is what looking into the future looks like for me…this is what I’ll look like playing tennis at 85.
Being pretty old myself, what I realize is that old guys in general play the same basic game that they did when they were young. they might add nuance here or there, but if they were big hitters, they still hit big,a nd if they were slicers, they still slice, etc.
I'm a 4.0 and I want a shot at either one of these two guys. Name the place and time and I'm there.
If in it visiting Atlanta area let us know
Oh the sweet pain of watching this.
There can only be one OG MEP.
It's funny because if you saw these guys playing at a local court you'd think they were a couple of 3.0 players who were just coming out to smack the ball around for a workout. You can't really see the terrifying nature of having to play against them if you don't see them on the court with a "traditional" 4.0 or 4.5 player and realize just how hard that style of play is to face, particularly when they have the skill and movement to extend rallies and force that extra ball.
Well, MEP opponent, he talks often on message boards about his tennis and racket service, he's only played Mixed 8.0 40 and over the past 3 years (about 6 matches each year), he's about a 3.5 18 and over player.
@@nominal Im pretty sure he was rated a 5.0 at one point, which is pretty hard to believe.
@@EP-77o I've got his records, he wasn't
@@nominal you have Seattle MEPs record? He’s talked about it several times on talk tennis. It might not have been in the last 3 years.
@@nominal never mind. I just saw his post “5.0 at 50”. He says he’s been a 4.5s or 4.5c his whole tennis life.
Some people think both MEPs hit ball slow - IT'S NOT. Your eyes deceive you till you step unto the court.
Playing an MEP gives me the chills and I won’t be able to sleep tonight!
I played one not too long ago. I beat him easily in first set but got tired in second and it was closer than it should have been. Luckily I pulled out the win and got my cardio in for the day!
Ok, I think Ben should be now called the "GOAT MEP"!! lol :)
This is fascinating.
Agreed! Even Spok would agree! :)
to who? it's boring to watch
Maybe one idea for ET video is discussing MEP Seattle’s and Sapfo Sakellaridi’s side arm serve (a viewer mentioned Seattle’s serve looks like Sapfo). After looking her up, she’s a 19 year old ranked in the top 400 in singles and dubs. Might see her on tv one day.
@@DanTuber The MEP videos are by far the most popular on the amateur tennis websites. This is not boring at all. Watching two guys bash the ball and miss every third shot is boring.
@@TennisTrollChannel You know, i had an idea watching Serena play Aga Radwanska once upon a time. Srena won in two close sets, but Aga won most of the rallies. IT was Serena's serve and return which got her to the finish line. Aga would hit some pretty good first serves, and Serena would just put them away with one powerful swing. She was jsut killing those returns. I thought to myself: If Aga had some other kind of serve....a backspin slice. a big topspin...anything...just to give serena a different look, she might be able to get into a rally at least, since her defensive skills were so good. i've been known to try those gimmicks myself, but I'm playing at a much lower level, of course....
Thank you UD Racing for the stats! www.tennisbull.com/match/1844
This is an excellent substitute for Ambien! zzzzzzz
Hope it worked.
MEP Green had his chances in that first set....but way too many unforced nonchalant errors, and some lazy foot work after a while....notice how Ben has great footwork through the whole match, and doesn't take "easy" shots for granted....when he gave up that break to go down 2-4 after leading in that game, things started to go down hill, and he never recovered....didn't hustle in the second set like in the first. Too many missed droppers by Green also....that short arm forehand slice needs to be refined......In answer to the wuestion, "Is this tennis?" ABSOLUTELY! This is how tennis was designed to be played.....creativity, strategy, variety, hustle, fitness....move the opponenet all over the court, and run everything down! Play the percentages.....
this is entertaining. Seattle actually has nice volleys and overheads. But his physical fitness and mental toughness fall behind Ben's. One thing I've noticed is that Ben is very good at that awkward game when there's a drop shot and both of you are close to the net. Often, we practice groundies but little time w/ that situation of dropshot (though I have on occasion seen some guys do a game where they drop a ball of the net and play it out)
Good observation. That is the disruptor's game...or sabotage tennis....you take awy the big power game, and force the opponent to play cat and mouse tennis, where hopefully, you have the edge. The top power players will also have good cat and mouse skills, however....
there is only one MEP.
It seems that one MEP struggles more against another MEP than against other opponents.
I can relate to this as I don’t like playing opponents who play like I do.
@@TennisTrollChannel you seem to play as a pretty standard aggressive baseliner. Am I missing something?
@@jgardne correct- I prefer to play against someone who has the opposite game style of me.
Green shirt guy has one of the nastiest slices on that deuce side I've seen for MEP style player. He really needs to follow through with a crosscourt short on that. It would be perfect combo.
Racquet---Tennis balls----Tennis court---Playing by the rules of tennis.-Strategy Yes this is tennis
We need a doubles match with all MEPs 😭😭😭
Tennis is as tennis does. If they’re having fun, so be it.
My mom always used to say; "If you don't have anything good to say about someone, come sit by me."
All those hours spent discussing wristband effects on swingweight, shortened racquets, gorilla tape, kevlar strings, modifying racquets for pro players, posting anti Djokovic hate on talk tennis.... only to get bageled by the original MEP.... PRICELESS !
Novak is the KING!
I don't read that forum, but this just shows the yawning divide between keyboard and court warriors.
yeah, there's no shame to lose to a MEP player, but I looked at some of those threads and he's talking about adding weight or doing this and now he's blasting FH winners and beating his teaching pro, and then I see how he hits a FH... It's like the best antidote for tinkering w/ racquets/strings...
Imposter!! 😊
Cruel to have anyone play a match in the Atlanta summer heat without being used to it, especially vs THE MEP!
MEP the goat
@17:47 is what true champions are made of
I'll need to wash my eyes with a Federer match after watching this.
There are a lot of MEPs around the world, every club has at least only one
This was painful to watch. However I don't want any other MEP beating Ben.....the GOAT MEP!! :)
How do you take a soul😶🌫️ when there is no soul 😶🌫️ to take?
LOL
at 17:52 Green MEP was broken by the thought that this is what it feels to play against himself :D
Fry pan tennis!
top grinding of course and I wish I could have the same nerve and stamina but it gets repetitive though, after a while I caught myself watching the match next court white vs red way more interesting :)
Mep against mep how cruel can you be
How come MEP Seattle can take green shirt from MEP? We get used to watch MEP score in green. Don’t take away green from MEP. 😂😂😂😂
MEP Seattle actually has a proper serve
it is much more enjoyable to watch the man in the red shirt in the adjacent court.
The lack of technique is made up by good footwork and overview. However, the lack of any top-spin is really curious. But who cares as long as you are not an professional, it’s all about making less errors than the opponent 😅
What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?
I like Green mep’s overheads
Yes, they are excellent
I think this is the style of tennis that Bobby Riggs invented in his "declining years". Basically how he beat Margaret Court - junk shots, lots of moving the ball around the court, changing pace all the time. Doesn't make it watchable though. 😂
Wrong. Bobby ALWAYS played like that, and it got him to be number one in the world!
I’m here for the comments!!! 🍿🍿🍿
the best part!
I think if you're watching this match from the side as a 4.5 because you're up against the winner and then get baked by MEP, you feel pretty awful. Unorthodox against orthodox is pretty entertaining but two MEP style players is just one too many.
MEP Seattle shows why topspin exists: it allows you to add speed and height while the ball will still dip inside the court. With backspin you need to play slow balls or low balls and that's high risk. Many orthodox players focus on the attacking aspect of topspin, as the ball will jump forward. That's true but essentially topspin is a safety measure.
*Skipped most the match
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Ok I know I'm going to get ambushed with this comment, but I'm just pointing something out. It's hard to believe green is 4.5. He hits a lot of short floaters that a "normal" 4.5 would easily put away. At least Ben keeps it pretty deep or low when he hits shorter, so you have much less to work with.
I think he would beat a LOT of 4.5s. he can hit hard off both sides, has a great overhead, and obviously has lot of junk. Also very quick. Ben just wore him out and out-concentrated him.
He's not, he chats often on the message boards, he's played exclusively 8.0 mixed 40 and over the past few years, about 7 matches per year, nothing else official. He's about a 5 UTR doubles with no singles UTR. I'd say he is a middle or low 4.0.
NO >:(
Mister nightmare vs mister bad dreams on court
My eyes are bleeding.
So in this case it MEP vs MEP = Most Exhausting Player vs Most Exhausted Player?
Did anybody really think this would be close?
Two MEP :D Great match
In the second set, it looks like Seattle tried to start powering the ball a bit more. Playing MEP is like being in quicksand. The more you try, the faster you go down. I’m familiar with the tactic of trying to power-up though. But there was nothing that could be done. The only players that beat MEP have Knock-Out shot-making. US Open John, etc. Just mention the name of one player dilly-dallying around against MEP. He beats them all.
US OPen John beat MEP after MEP was two points from the match. Ben took away his big game, and John actually resorted to playing a slow game, and just outlasted Ben. His big shots were pretty useless. I think they played a re-match, and Ben won in straight sets.....but I could be mixing him up with someone else.
@@joemarshall4226 Ok. You’re right. John scaled back without becoming too exhausted and prevailed, with a slim margin.
@@joemarshall4226 But I don’t see a second match.
@@tennnis498 I think Ben mentioned it in an interview, but it wasn't posted.
I think this is a common misperception with playing MEP. And any style could work, just need to execute. John was losing playing impatiently and not very smart. He switched to playing patient tennis. He’s much more athletic than MEP and his strokes were still much better even when dialing it down. It’s ok to play your own style whatever that is, but everyone needs some sort of consistency. It should only take 1-2 big shots to get MEP in a compromising position if the point is still alive, but you still have to execute those 1-2 shots and then the putaway ball if necessary. MEP will usually force you to do this.
Please enlighten us, what is an MEP?
Most Exhausting Player (to play against).
These guys are quality tennis players who would kick my ass..but this is painful to watch.
Will the real MEP please stand up
Will the Real MeP Shady please stand up?
This is the true nightmare.
MEP Seattle is not in the same class. Way tool many unforced errors to carry a MEP badge!
You can’t out MEP the OG MEP!!
People that have no ground strokes always go to the net lmao
How is this 4.5? 😃
They win most of their matches at 4.5.
Wow! Seattle MEP uses the Sapfo Sakellaridi serve!
I had to look her up. That’s awesome.
I know her because she's Greek. She won the women's Greek National Championship 2 years ago.
95% of her 1st serves and 100% of her 2nd serves are like that. She's recently climbed up to top 340 WTA rank or so. She just lost a match against young 15 year old talent Brenda Fruhvirtova, who trains in Mouratoglou Academy. Sapfo won the 1st set! Her opponnents obviously have to figure out how to deal with this serve that never wins aces, nor double faults.
Geez!! MEP-Seattle has the worst serve I've ever seen!!😁 Can't believe that I didn't comment on that when I commented 4 months ago! lol
Wait till we post someone else’s
@@TennisTrollChannel lol can't wait!! :)
@@TennisTrollChannel I can't believe you'll be able to find a serve worse than that?! lol
@@Volkl30 I don’t know if it’s better/worse. It’s a unique technique that’s effective at getting a neutral return. I hope to show by end of February/early March.
@@TennisTrollChannel Ok, I see. Well, looking forward to seeing it!! 👍
like watching two old men in slow-mo
would be interesting to see MEP playing against a moon baller
It ain't badminton.
😁😁😁
4.5?🤔😁
Little jealous? : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel no, i envy your skills. In fact i think you guys should be 5 5 even, 4.5 doesn't do you guys justice
@@Max-ti5nq : ]
First! This channel is sick
these 2 are sick lol
@@tandkandm They suck they have no ground strokes
@@olfam7197 yeah but they win a lot of matches, though 🙂
@@tandkandm 4.O is easy
@@olfam7197 what level do you play? Unless you're 4.5 and above, perhaps you should come and challenge me and my 4.0 guys. This community would love to watch it, I'm sure
All these clowns are displaying is the benefits of modern technology. Have MEP play a classically taught 4.5 with a Jack Kramer. He will turn into a 3.0 reeeeaaaalll fast.
Is this Tennis NO
What is it?
@@TennisTrollChannel Not sure trying to work it out
It's tennis, but it's totally unwatchable and embarrassing to people who are legit players.
not sure why anyone would be embarrassed for people enjoying a sport. weird.
There are many valid approaches to the game
Below the knees slice is a excellent shot.
What’s a legit player?
@@TennisTrollChannel Federer. Every one else is a faker.