Better Call Saul tells stories in a unique way
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Ever wonder how they wrote the TV show Better Call Saul? Hear from Peter Gould, Vince Gilligan, Bob Odenkirk, Gordon Smith, Thomas Schnauz, and other writers about their experiences in the writers' room and how they created one of the biggest TV sequels to the greatest show of all time, Breaking Bad.
Chapters:
00:00 Preface
00:58 1. Who is Saul Goodman?
03:09 2. The Writers Room
05:29 3. Follow Your Characters
07:28 4. Using Breaking Bad
10:44 5. Dialogue vs Action
12:17 6. Justice in Storytelling
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Better Call Saul is an American television crime drama series created by Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould. It is both a spin-off and a prequel of Gilligan's previous series, Breaking Bad. Set in the early-to-mid-2000s in Albuquerque, New Mexico, the series develops Jimmy McGill (Bob Odenkirk), an earnest lawyer and former con-man, into a greedy criminal defense attorney known as Saul Goodman. Also shown is the moral decline of retired police officer Mike Ehrmantraut (Jonathan Banks), who becomes closely affiliated with the Juarez drug cartel to support his family.
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This show is probably the best prequel ever made!
Agreed! It's a difficult feat!
Best Spinoff
Moreover, I thought that Breaking Bad was the top of TV, but now I think that Better Call Sall is a new stage of development. The most consistent, realistic and positive (which is a big plus for me) drama on TV.
EVER
@@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 I dunno. what about Joey!? 🤣
The fact that Better Call Saul didn't get any Emmy is actually painful to me
There's still hope!
Michael McKean won an Emmy for best guest star in season 4 at least
Shame on the Emmys then!
Eh,there's still S6,don't worry
@@Carlos-ln8fd He was in season 4?
The writing on Better Call Saul is extremely impressive, especially when you consider they could have fallen into the "prequel problem" where it relies on the success of the original.
For my money, BCS stands on its own two feet. I don't feel like I'm watching a "Breaking Bad TV Prequel", I'm watching the Better Call Saul TV show. Period.
Exactly! i avoided watching BCS for all these years cause i thought it would be just a money grab scheme, but i started watching it a few weeks ago and damn! It's soo good and sometimes i even forget it's a Breaking Bad spin off
Fax has it's own spin
I actually thinks it enhances the original, adds to the original (i.e. the dynamic between Gus and Hector)
No it's not. It's dead boring compared to Breaking Bad.
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Just because there’s no action doesn’t mean it’s boring
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Arguably the most well written show on TV right now.
No doubt, I personally don't think anything even comes close
this and atlanta.
@SquirtleMaster Dark was a cool show but terribly contrived
@@kbscheme atlanta is all over the place, dooesnt even come close to bcs
get rid of “right now”.
I might be in the minority, but I think BCS is a notch above the excellence of Breaking Bad.
I agree...i think they learned a lot from making BB and applied it to BCS :)
Agree
I sort of agree. I loved BrBa for a variety, but I felt more invested in BCS once I got through the first couple episodes. Both are fantastic shows, but I personally felt more attracted to BCS
Sometimes I’m not so sure cuz I loved BB but I think you’re right
Absolutely right.
Every time I watch BCS I can't believe how good the writing is but also the acting, the camera, the details, the quirky ideas. This show is levels beyond everything other shows do. No character or scene is ever wasted, it all feels so dense and efficient but also 100 % organic and authentic at all times. I'm so grateful for having this show.
The writing combined with the willingness of the actors to completely get into these characters have made this even better than Breaking Bad. Nothing and I mean nothing has made me watch, obsess, stay up all night thinking about possible endings, binge like some addict, like this show has done to me. Just incredible.
I actually had to google “addicted to Better Call Saul” to ensure I’m not alone.
Breaking bad has left behind such legacy that for now everybody hesitates to put better call Saul above breaking bad immediately...but I know in future critics will put better call Saul much above breaking bad...
Was just about to start writing, but I suppose it can wait another 14 minutes
Only as long as you're writing now! Thanks for watching, Mark.
@@BehindtheCurtain page 81/110 of my first draft. Hoping to get it done well in advance of the script reading on Wednesday
What you writing on mate?
I love how they say they have a continuity Bible. Shows that they didn’t necessarily plan for everything like people seem to think they did, but they paid enough attention to their own details so that everything has a natural and logical flow. Makes it feel like a living organism, and like this all genuinely did happen prior to Breaking Bad… Until Walt showed up and destroyed everything (which I see more and more as I’m watching BCS)
Thanks so much for doing this. I actually like this better than Breaking Bad. More layers are explored and we have the burning question of what happens to Kim...
A lot of people have said the same thing! I'm not sure which I like better, but both are fantastic.
@@BehindtheCurtain agreed both are indeed fantastic
this show is miles better than breaking bad I feel, I actually started watching the first season of breaking bad, got a bit bored. started from better caul saul, got to season 3 or 4 I think, then finished breaking bad and then season 5. it really feels like BCS is more fleshed out in almost every way but sensationally like breaking bad was.
it's funnier, the character development is one of the best I saw on tv and movies, the camera work and cinematography is beyond words, and the dialogue is so perfect.
better caul saul makes me wanna create something.
what this show does best I think is the alone times, the quiet moments where people just think, it's not shown much in other media, you can learn a lot about someone when he is alone.
No Breaking Bad was a thriller drama, BCS is a limited prequel, the notch is subtle and explore differently.
Cant believe that Better Call Saul a spinoff/ prequel to the breaking bad universe ends up becoming just as thematically complex and compelling as its counterpart. The best series of the moment, cant wait for season six!!
If Coronavirus causes this show to get cancelled before a satisfying conclusion, we should riot
Luckily they've still been able to write season 6. Here's hoping production can move forward.
@@BehindtheCurtain it's the cancellation of Glow and a handful of other shows that has me worried. If the cast has contracts, and they expire, they're going to negotiate Coronavirus prices. Most of the main cast are in their sixties making them vulnerable. It's my fear that if they don't shoot soon contracts will expire and AMC might see those dollar signs and put it to bed.
The will start shooting at March :)
@@ggfffgggds pain.
I will personally go to Peter Gould’s and Vince Gilligan house and picket if that happens lol. I actually think they’re doing everything they can on their end to wrap it up for us in a nice satisfying bow in season 6.
When the show was first announced, I imagined it as a day in the life at Saul's office ft Francesca, Mike Huell and Kuby(which would have been hilarious)
But Vince and Peter really turned the show into something special (and much better than my idea) I almost like BCS more than BrBa.
When I watched the pilot, I was actually put off that it wasn't that fun Saul Goodman life that you described. But I realized after a recent rewatch through the rest of the show that they were aiming to do something much greater. It's paid off extremely well.
@@BehindtheCurtain For sure, seeing Saul Goodman during a Breaking Bad rewatch is almost heartbreaking, since he is so far gone from the Jimmy Mcgill we have come to know and love.
@@judejohnston true. jimmy is a super talented lawyer and he could have to be much much richer in the legal side actually.but he like Walter always wants to feel on top, after so many people stepped on him, he wants to feel like he is in a secret world like he has much more power than others, a secret life, something better than the normal folks.
Just gonna say this here because I have no one else to tell who will care
but
watching Better Call Saul REALLY makes Mikes death in Breaking Bad so much more hard to accept
like to think this character in this show is dead later on
and
for nothing ...
:(
I wanna cry everytime he comes up because of what you just described :'( at least we got a chance to dig deeper into his awesomeness
@@michelloons awesome character
The best part about BCS is it manages to simultaneously stand on it's own two feet and stay loyal to it's predecessor (and even enhance it)
agreed, like no doubt it took major advantage of the fact it was a prequel of breaking bad in the first season when it was getting the ball rolling but it's come a long way and surpasses breaking bad in some aspects for me
What a great show! I love it as much as Breaking Bad! Bob Odenkirk is phenomenal as Jimmy/Saul
Odenkirk is fantastic!
Bob definitely deserves his own spin off
OMG! Writers and Show Runners respecting Cannon, Lore, the Characters, and Continuity.
I love Saul’s shitty little office behind the nail salon. It says so much about him
I can't wait for season 6 of Better call Saul! I am also curious if we will see any more scenes in the Breaking Bad timeline with Walt, Jesse or maybe even with characters we have met in Better call Saul like Kim, Howard or Nacho
We all make our choices. And those choices, they put us on a road. Sometimes those choices seem small, but they put you on the road. You think about getting off. But eventually, you’re back on it.
Best show on air.
"don't just pitch problems, pitch solutions." someone really should tell that j j abrahams.
And this is exactly why Gilligan is a genius, BCS may be the best written show of all time, and they can pull seemingly unknown actors and turn them into heavyweights. I mean, what character in either series wasn't acted incredibly well? That's not luck. That's tradecraft. They're masters of it.
I love the writing, but this show doesn't get enough praise for cinematography and the perfect framing of every shot. Love it.
I'd like to see Vince or Peter write a Norman Borlaugh biopic. His life story is a series of industrious brilliance, had work and ingenuity to solve world hunger, and being phenomenally successful at it. Endless material for impressive timelapses and montages.
That would be interesting. I look forward to whatever these people create.
Unfortunately Vince and Peter prefer writing stories about bad people rather than good people ... Vince’s latest project is about Jim Jones apparently, don’t know about Peter
What about obsessed people? There's a great book 'The Wizard and the Prophet' which details Borlaugh's story and matches it against William Vogt's story. Both are epic tales of people, larger than life, who were each other's opposites in many ways.
BCS is a phenomenal show that had a problem facing it right from the start because we already knew where Jimmy would end up. They have established that there will be story post Breaking Bad, so that’s intriguing. I thought there would be another serious problem after killing off Chuck, because the dynamic between Jimmy and Chuck was so powerful and the fact that Michael McKean is such a fantastic actor. Michael really helped to carry the first three season as such an important character to the plot.
I felt that season four did seem a bit slow and lost much drama without that dynamic that Chuck brought to every episode. It felt like they really needed the addition of another powerful and interesting character to bring that tension and boy did they deliver. Too bad they didn’t introduce Lalo until season five, because season four really needed a shot in the arm. I began to fear BCS was going to get boring, but I should have more faith in Vince Gillian than that.
When they first introduced the character of Lalo, I assumed that, “here we go with just another unhinged Salamanca, like Hector, the twins or Tuco.”. I was sure he would have a similar presence, but damned I was wrong.
Tony Dalton really brought a fresh approach to this character and seems more like someone who could run such a large operation. Lalo is the very first charming Salamanca. He has a more calming presence while things are going good, but has shown he can also be as scary as any other Salamanca when pushed.
Lalo seems more in control of his own temperament than any Salamanca to date. It was unique to have him control his men without the typical unhinged anger, temper tantrums we have seen from Salamancas in the past.
It is obvious that he is someone to fear, but doesn’t feel the need to scare everyone by going off on violent rampages. I think this quiet use of power is far more intimidating, because we know that underneath it all is another brutal Salamanca and when he is finally triggered there will be hell to pay.
We all learned how scary he could be at the end of last season when he went to confront Jimmy about his car in the desert. It seemed that either Jimmy or Lalo had to die. Since Mike had Lalo in his rifle site and Mike rarely misses his target, it seemed Lalo was going to meet Hector and the Twins. Each time he made Jimmy retell the story in the desert, the tension in the room rose another 50°. Damn was that a good scene. My wife and I would move a few inches closer tho the edge of our seat each time and Jimmy stayed with each detail ever time, but he was sweating.
I felt so fearful for him because his biggest worry was Kim and getting her the hell out of there and I could relate because that would be my biggest worry. I would want my wife to see me killed either and the fear he would kill her as a witness. I was squirming in my seat to say the least.
That was until we saw the new Kim step up to the plate and we all saw what a fine actress Rhea Seehorn really is. Wow! It made me realize how many seasons she has been wasted. I mean Kim has always been a good character, but now I’ve seen just how great she can be.
It pisses me off that Rhea was not even nominated for best supporting actress, especially since Emilia Clarke was nominated several times, and even though I think Emilia has a magnetic personality, that personality never shines through in her characters, which are always very stale and shallow. If Emilia would just play herself she would be great, because she has the cutest personality in Hollywood, but damn, she can’t act worth shit.
I’m sorry to her fans, but she really can’t act. She somehow felt that Daenerys Targaryen needed to be stoic, therefore one dimensional and boring. It didn’t help that she was surrounded by some of the best actors and actresses in the business. Comparing her to Lena Heady is not really fair because of the experience difference, but having them in the same series made it hard not to compare. Damn, was Lena great and completely wasted in the last couple seasons as she just stood in the castle staring out the window! Fuck you D&D!
Emilia played the exact same boring character in The Terminator movie, the worst Sarah Conner ever and in the movie “Solo”, which was an underwhelming movie anyway. She always plays the same flat character in every movie. Why? She is so adorable and fun in interviews. Every time I see an interview with her, I think, “why doesn’t she just act like that in her movies?”, she great, magnetic and fun. I just don’t get it, but when you’re in a series that has Charles Dance (Wow!), Peter Dinklage (it doesn’t get any better), Lena Heady (unbelievable) Sean Bean and so many others, you need to really add depth to your character to not be the one dragging along. Most everyone I know felt the same as I. As soon as they would cut to the Daenerys scene is Essos, our attention would drift off immediately knowing it was like the brakes had been hit, going for 70mph down to 30mph.
Sorry for the off-the-subject rant, but I really think a hundred actresses in Hollywood could have played Daenerys Targaryen with more depth of personality than Clarke did and she was only nominated for those Emmys because it was Game Of Thrones.
GOT began as a Masterpiece of TV, then slowly devolved into one of the worst big budget television shows HBO ever offered, once the source material ran out and D&D refused to hand it over to competent writers and insisted on writing the remaining story themselves. Remember, these are the two guys who thought making Deadpool without a mouth was great writing in “Wolverine Origin”. The “Merch With A Mouth” didn’t have one. We can’t blame Ryan Reynolds for ruining it, because he was brilliant once someone decided to do the character with a mouth.
I’m sorry, but if Emilia Clarke could be nominated for an Emmy, several times (thankfully never winning), then Rhea Seehorn should have been nominated following season five, her best acting yet and way, way, way better than anything delivered by Clarke! I can’t imagine her trying to deliver that scene, Zzzzz.... snoozeville, Zzzzzzzz... Seehorn had my hands clenched around the arms of the chair. I think I put permanent indentations in the leather.
Lalo has really helped save the day for BCS since the loss of Chuck. I can’t wait to see what Lalo will do now. We know he is going after Nacho, who is in Mexico on foot, not a good likelihood of getting out of there and back to the US.
Gus claimed those guys he hired were the best in the business. Damn, I hate to see what the worst would do. Both guys climbing into that tunnel together was the stupidest thing I have seen. Why wouldn’t you have one stand guard over the entrance? Because story, I guess. They made Lalo’s job of killing them a cinch. Maybe Gus can find some better mercs next time he decides to take out a Salamanca?
Highly underrated show, its super slow until season 3, but it was still really fun to watch Jimmy's character build, now I cannot wait for season 6, im so so excited
Absolutely wonderful video for a phenomenal show.
Thank you for watching!
The amount of care and thought they put in is truly amazing. It's like the exact opposite of Star Trek: Discovery's writing.
Better Call Saul is just so organic, basically watching people go through their lives. I love it so much.
I honestly think the story line in Better Call Saul is way better than Breaking Bad
Me either, it is
Only Jimmy’s story. The rest is pretty meh and doesn’t even come close to BB
@@johnp.smithasimpleman7281 I agree but it’s still better.
@@KappaTM In terms of technicality, yes. The cinematography is better, the writing is more complex etc. But the story is not as consistent as Breaking Bad, because it’s almost two different shows were one is a Breaking Bad spin off with good cartel background, and the other is an amazing drama show.
Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul and True Detective S1 are the greatest shows I've ever watched. Unbelievable writing, acting and directing. The amount of small details is astounding.
I gotaa say Vincent Peter really knocked it out of the park with these two shows watching Breaking Bad every episode was a cliffhanger that left you wanting more I burn through all five seasons in less than a week almost and I did the same with Better Call Saul up to season for at least because that's all that's on Netflix right now but I cannot tell you how much my jaw has been on the floor watching the character development on Better Call Saul that shaped the characters that were on Breaking Bad
5:10 There is fun in creation.
Vince Gilligan is a genius makes breaking bad then a prequel thats great aswell
I think that part talking about justice in storytelling was missing some *totally unrelated footage of Game of Thrones.*
Best show on tv right now
AWESOME video. I was shocked at how great this show was. Literal equal level to the best show every created, Breaking Bad. I did not think that was going to happen.
not only the dialouges but the scenes are as powerful in bcs , there is this one scene where kim gives a new bottle as a present to saul and he can't place it in his new davis and mains company car , this scene just beautifully describes that his old life ( being on his own ) dosen't perfectly sit in his new life ( a attorney at davis and mains)
This is such an excellent video!!
I really appreciate it
The mastery of BCS will probably forever be unsurpassed. What a dream working on that crew would have been.
I'd love to see that "story calendar" they're talking about
I was literally listening to the old Writers Panel pod on BCS S1, earlier today. Wow.
Wow, great timing!
this is back to the old style vids. great to have another like this. thanks.
More to come!
How have I never seen this video? This is an absolute goldmine!
I appreciate it!
awesome video, one of my favourite things on netflix! would love to see a video on how HBOs Band of Brothers was written, specifically looking at the line between facts and dramatisation.
Amazing video! Thanks for your work good sir!
Thanks for watching!
if this group of writers doesn't make another show I'm quitting tv
what I like about this show is that every charcters shines at a point. the don't feel filler or supportive, they feel like each indiviual making their choices based on how they feel and think.
Godsend, thank you. Really helpful information to viewers. Q: Where's Chapter 6, on your next vid? Love BCS, Peter Gould & Co!
9:31 I want this encyclopedia of its in book form haha
When your studio cares about the quality instead of politics
Amazing. One of the greatest TV ever
Truly! Thanks for watching
Great great video!
Thanks!
maybe the best writing ever on television
THEY HAVE AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THE SHOW????! I hope they release it one day :P
Cant wait for season 6 the charecter on better call saul are so good I dont wont any of them to die :(
Better Call Saul started really slow but it became one of the best shows going on right now.
love this show
brilliant
An amazing TV show. 10/10.
This show, like Breaking Bad, is a wonderfully deep tragedy
This show is phenomenal
I've been watching and enjoying your videos for some time now and I've always been thinking about one question. Are you actually interviewing these people or you just finding a lot of interview on the internet and creating something like that?
It's a mix! When they're original interviews, I usually specify and link to my website where you can access the full version. Also, if you look in the description, I have links to interview sources! So many interviews only have a minute or two of applicable information, so I present them here in an organized and condensed format.
Thanks for watching!
Just finished Season 1. So good
oh boy youre in for a ride,every season gets better,imo better than breaking bad
and i just finished season 5
In my opinion, Better Call Saul is the best tv entertainment ever made. It is just so well written, interesting story that is acted brilliantly by good actors and the camerawork is amazing.
In my opinion, Breaking bad is good at setting up high stakes and keeping he audience in a sense of panic. And BCS excel at everything but this.
They are doing that with the new season thankfully.
Yeah! He is so interesting, he's got a sixth season! Hurray!!!
Other TV writers, watch this and take some notes!! You are losing
I personally prefer Better Call Saul over Breaking Bad, but I prefer Walter White's character over Jimmy McGill. I really enjoyed the intensity and anger of Walter when he started to have his down fall, but Better Call Saul is essentially like watching Oedipus. You know it is going to be a tragic outcome, yet you still have this hope that things will turn out right.
Did you mean ozymandias because Oedipus wanted to bang his mom
Fuck this was amazing
bob odenkirk!
The show just keeps getting better instead of getting more stale. That's the sign of good character development.
This thumbnail made me think of ERB
Can you make a video about Banshee writers writing and talking about making CINEMAX Banshee.
Ernesto spin off next
tnx
Thanks!
hey behind the curtain, big fan, what's the next video going to be about?
Taxi Driver!
Best show ever
I literally just started S5 today and wondering if you'd made a videi
Wow, incredible timing!
S5 its goddamn explosive, you are gonna love it
Better call Saul!
How they wrote Fargo?
Whats the music from 6:30
i watched better call saul first lmao was my favourite tv show of all time till i watched breaking nad
If they make a biopic about Jordan Peterson one day, they should cast Bob Odenkirk.
i love breaking bad but i love better call saul an inch more because the drama is so much more realistic compared to breaking bad. it feels like i can truly relate to saul a lot more than walter.
what episode is the flash at 10:46 from?
What are the interview sources?
Love how they get characters out of problems. Forces writers to be very creative and logical too. It’s something you miss from say superhero/fantasy movies where you can just write some silly plot device to get them out of a bad situation
I actualy watched better call saul before I watched breaking bad. And I didn`t know it was connected to Breaking Bad
How would the writer of BCS perform with the abysmal Rings of Power show?
Better Call Saul has given so much, but, maybe by some karmic force, it also took something away from me. I was watching a series, that i've heard had some buzz around. It has a really interesting premise, really good characters, good acting, clever direction, unique style, it was entertaining, but i couldn't get invested in it. The writing broke my immersion every time a character did something out of character, just because the writers wanted the plot to movie into a specific direction. It happened so many times each episode, that i kind of lost intrest.
What series?
@@ethanhawksley9097 "The Boys"
If the last season gets cancelled, we riot
Bob Odenkirk sounds exactly like Dr Jordan Peterson
But he's not trying to dupe anyone
The Kermitness is lacking.
lmao FUCK
@@ishaantiwari neither is Jordan Peterson
@@Birrrrra Crazy how wrong that is
saul is DR KATZ???!! that rules
I was an extra a couple times. Good money and fun.
That's awesome!
Why don't you do a video about house of cards?
Great suggestion!
Only if they ignore the last season. It was awful.
1:10-3:16