Ford Super duty F-250 XLT 7.3 Godzilla..Real world fuel economy..is diesel that much better?
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Thinking of a Gasser HD truck....like the Ford superduty from 2021, 2022, 2020, 2023? thinking of what it will cost you at the pump? Is a diesel that much better vs a gasser truck. I'll go over short term fuel econom and long term economy. Video to come soon on the 2024 L8T V8 Chevrolet gas.
My 2024 3500 with the 6.6L gas and 10 speed at 1900 miles so far I’m averaging 12.8 mpg. 80% city, mostly trips less than 10 miles. I’m easy on the throttle. Best highway trip was 16.7mpg at 70mph. Just checked and no oil issues so far. I live at sea level and run Mobile 87 octane.
I just got a 23 F250 with the 7.3 and have to agree very short trips to work just 5 miles one way get 13.2 or so when driving a bit longer like 15+ miles or more get over 14 took it to TN got 17 door to door at a 750 miles trip with 4 to 5 stops each way
And I didn’t even mention that most of the time I was doing 72 to 75. I saw a review where the guy said you gotta go below 70 to get the top mileage doesn’t seem that way to me friend of mine at work has the 23 HD 2500 Chevrolet the gas 66 he don’t even hit 16 on the highway and he gets barely 12 around here.
What kind of gas are you using? 87 regular?
I think that’s pretty good mpg for a super duty. I’m in the market for my first 3/4 ton and the ford is what I want with 7.3, but these low mile engine issues really have me in easy. I’m buying for long term.
Follow up with the 6.6 when you get a few more miles on it I'm curious to see how much better it gets once broken in a little.
@Aggieland79 it's been a bit. But the truck is over 33k miles, zero issues, zero oil consumption. The 22 7.3 blew at 6k miles
My 2019 6.7 averages 15mpg but diesel here is 1 dollar more per gallon. I traded my 6.2 gas for my 6.7 but if I were to do it again I’d go with the 7.3. Cost of maintenance on the 6.7 is pretty high
I had a 2007 Ford E350 Quigley Van with the 6.0L International Diesel & was luckey to get 15 mpg on the highway. I also had a 2002 Ford F250 Crew Cab 6’-0” bed with the 5.4L V8 Gas, I would get about 16 mpg. So 17 mpg with a 7.3L gas engine is not bad at all.
for a Truck that can work like a Semi & without turbos, that's excellent Gas millage & for a V8, yeah.
diesel is like 25% more where I live, so for a diesel to be at parity for fuel costs only the diesel would need to get like 18 in town and 22 on the highway. Not to mention the $10k initial premium and the considerably higher matainance. If you don't need a diesel (and most guys who think they do- don't) It is was more cost-effective for the gasser, including fuel costs.
Getting 17.5 on a highway type trip for a tall heavy duty 4x4 truck pushing that much air is fantastic in my mind, trucks of some years back couldn't begin to remotely touch that figure no matter how easy one drove them empty. I was wondering what the speeds were on the highway at that fuel economy as I got the impression that you zip right along when your empty on a trip which if correct means it had more potential yet if driven easy.
So I do drive it easy, meaning, I don't hammer the throttle at all, but with the 7.3 even in eco, if you are not carefull it will still squeel the tires. As of about a month ago, I was doing many trips out to eastern colorado, with my 5th wheel hitch in, loaded with dog, gear and cargo. That trip is 187 miles, half is 75 the other half 65. 17.5 mpg's is what I got loaded like that, even with some idle time and remote start. In town, it always just got 14.5. I haven't had a gas truck in the HD segement ever get those numbers. The L8T Chevy I bought to run against the zilla, started lower, and now I can get 18.5 hwy and 15 city with the same loads.
You need to test a 2023 7.3 to see if anything changed when it comes to fuel economy, hp and torque. 2023 vs 2023.
My 2022 7.3 gets better gas mileage with transmission in regular driving mode than eco mode!
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Any substantial percentage of the total miles driven at a speed of 75 typically really hits the fuel usage due to the wind resistance of a brick through air, the very aerodynamic small cars are even affected a certain amount from such a speed. The Chevy, it obviously has been breaking in and no doubt the trailer loads played a part in that as again that is impressive mileage and its a heavier truck due to its use of more steel in the body panels. That is right into what at least was considered good half ton fuel mileage if driven easy and to think your doing this at 5000 feet of elevation. By the way I am still laughing over a certain person with the first initial R that just couldn't figure out how to contact you !
That's awesome gas mileage. That's about the same that I get with my wimpy 2015 NIssan Titan which doesn't hold a candle to the ability of an F-250.
I drive a service truck, weighs just over 16k, as a 6.7, my average on 10 tanks is 9.8. A recent replacement to a new 7.3 gas, my first tanks 8.3 with the same weight. My personal F250, 6.7 shows an average 17.2. Consider I live in the mountains of Arizona, not bad!
The thing about gas mileage is that there are ALOT of factors that can vary ones gas mileage...style of driving, weight, type of traffic, so some of the claims or comparison can be invalid.
So what happened with the cam and lifter issue?
The diesel gets the smaller 29 gallon tank because of the DEF tank. You have to get a long bed to get the bigger fuel tank
I would be curious what the mpg would be in a regular cab. I assume that truck would be lighter so perhaps mpg would be a little higher. but 17 on the highway in a crew cab is not bad at all.
Id agree that on a regular cab and a 3.55 or 3.73 you'd get a few more mpgs for sure. We see that in our other ford's at work.
I'm looking at a new 2023 250 4x4 with the 7.3. How has the truck been overall? I'm driving a 2019 Ram 2500 that averages about 18 to 20 MPG (mostly 18 for high) What you said isn't too far off with 17 MPG. Would you buy again?
The General, overall was a great truck. After doing the Ike challenge, the engine developed the lifter failure and the engine went out. I sold the truck back to ford. KONG. THE 6.6 L8T chevy crushed 12000 miles in 7 months and is doing phenomenal.
What rear end ratio ?
If you think fuel mileage is tough with a gas, keep one of those 6.7’s long enough to have to start putting wrenches on it..$10-12k at a single time is nothing… and let the CP4 fail which it will 100% guaranteed do if you get much above 250k in miles. I’ve bought my last 6.7 I’m here to tell ya Comrades.
If i set my cruise at 70 mph i can get 14mpg with my 2022 7.3 4x4 with 4.30's bone stock. We run 400 miles each way to the ranch and i've tried different variations. 75 gets about 13 and 80 gets about 12. Very hard to defeat physics. That's truck only with about 1000 pounds of cargo. Pulling 30' travel trailer gets 6-9 depending on speed & headwind. My dad swears his 05 Cummins gets 25 🤣
I thought about this truck for towing a 38 ft fifth wheel but i am very skeptical of power on a gasser . What do you think?
Both the chevy 6.6 and the 7.3 are more than plenty....did a battle on the plains.. whetr I towed a 15k trailer 38 roughly...a holiday rambler....and it did great. Pulled my 13k 5th wheel right up and over the mountains....I have both of those towing series on the channel. If you are under 20k, either will do great. And I drove diesels all day and owned them all. The chevy gas with the 10 speed allison does edge the ford out with how it controls speed on the downhill
@@automotiveinquiries9673 thanks for info
What’s the rear axle ratio and tire size?
@@jerry-381 that truck wad a 3.55 locker, 275 60 18 if I remember right
Your diesel fuel cost is NOT that much more than the higher octane gasoline you're putting in there. I'm betting your "diesel costs 50 cents to a dollar more a gallon" comment is comparing diesel to the cheapest gas that you said you don't use. Diesel isn't for everyone and the emissions crap and the extra refining changes they made back in 2006 to 2008 hurt the fuel economy significantly. The best way to look at it is if you tow big, heavy loads (like 15k pounds or more) for greater than 50% of the miles on your truck then you should get the diesel. Otherwise you're probably better off with the gas, especially when you consider the $12k price premium for the diesel engine. You shouldn't need to put that high an octane in that truck though, that would be a deal-breaker for me.
True, everything you said. I choose to run 91 or ethanol free, but they only require 87 minimum.
Diesel is $.15-$.25 cheaper than gas where I'm at and I'm getting 14mpg in the city with a leveled F350 on 35" tires.
A stock setup will blow a gasser away with fuel economy.
Except when the maitenance costs add up and the $10/$12K for the price of the diesel engine your no further ahead, you can buy a pile of gas for the price of that engine. 90% of People that drive a diesel rarely use the truck for what its made for anyways.
@@panthermartin7784 no matter what, I'll recoup the extra cost of the diesel and maintenance if and when I trade it in. I've already played that game.
@@oldnumber6 you would have to drive it for like 8 years to break even at best
Working in a mine and operating and maintaining diesel equipment daily I honestly can say I couldnt care less if I smelled or heard another diesel engine run ever again and I own several. The current offerings of HD gas options meet and exceed my needs and most peoples needs by a far shot, alot of people find out the hard way they actually dont need a HD diesel truck .
@@panthermartin7784 if I recoup my money on trade in, it doesn't matter how long I have it. I tow through multiple states and I prefer diesel torque and using truck stops for fueling. For me, the pros outweigh the cons.