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The T1 Trust 2022: A Year in Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2022
- 2022 Was a great year for the PRR T1 Trust and is setting up for 2023 to become a pivotal year for the whole project with the start of construction of the frame.
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I remember sending a fan letter to the T1 trust when I was little and they were so kind with their response, now year's later I have made my first donation 😀keep up the good work guys!
Wow it's only been going since 2013, how old are you now 🤔🤔
@@THOMAS81Z I was 11 years old in 2015 when I sent the letter.
@@nicholastrainssd75m45 I thought you would say you were 5 or something when sent it.🤣 I'm glad us younger people are able to support history and bring it back to life!
Has it been that long? Seems like yesterday when they announced this endeavor.
The fact that they’re building a steam locomotive in the 21st century really warms my heart.
RETURN OF THE IRON HORSES!
the fact its also not the only group doing something similar makes me so freaking happy. especially cause the one thing killing the future of preservation is the death of the skills needed to restore and maintain these beasts. but projects like this could lead to the rebirth of the nessesary skills and as such a rebirth in the preservation movement. but with the way govs are going with thier despisal of anything and everything coal it might be a dying dream. hopefully not tho.
Apparently some people is Sheffield are also trying to rebuild some old steam locomotives that were scrapped a long time ago.
The old iron horses may soon see a new resurgance!
Next up: Dreyfuss Hudson???
People congratulate the UP-steam team for bringing 4014 back from the grave, which would be no small task and was great to see such an icon of the rails in operation for the first time in years but building a locomotive that is a similar size and complexity from scratch without a decent starting point is much more of an accomplishment.
I will be so happy that Pennsylvania Railroad T1 5550 in operation the first time in 2030.
Earlier if they get more donations
So proud to be a Founders Club member, watching this goliath return to life piece by piece, day by day. Cannot wait for the project to progress to those huge milestones, to hear that 3 chime sing from the steam of 5550 once more...
I’ve been watching this project since it began in 2013, when I was just a kid. Now I’m in college, and even more eagerly following this. The 2000s seem to be the century of disproving the doubters in rail preservation, and I hope the trend continues.
It would be really cool if you guys could get someone to make a train simulator addon for the T1 and have all proceeds go to the trust
I heard the T1 Trust is in the planning stages with K&L Trainz getting the 5550 locomotive made for Trainz Simulator. That would definitely be an awesome fundraiser for sure!
This project, everything about it is so GOOD
2022 was sure a great year of progress! Well done! Here’s to another progressing year in 2023!
Absolutely insane how much progress you’re making. Let’s see it break 150 on the corridor!
Can't wait to see this beauty on the track. A great piece of US rail history. Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
I am so happy these people care about bringing back something lost to history. I can’t wait for this to be done.
To say that I am truly grateful to all of the individuals for bringing back such a piece of history, like this Pennsylvania Railroad T-1 and one of the original Pennsylvania Railroad Tenders (great find) I have no words to describe this. I’m just sorry that at least one of these could not be preserved at the Pennsylvania Railroad Museum in Strasburg, PA. Excellent work to all of you as a true admirer of, especially the Pennsylvania Railroad and the rest of the Fallen Flag Railroads that helped to build this great Nation. Thank You
It’s been a few years now since I’ve become aware of your trust, and I’m so excited for the completion of the new T1! I’m even working on joining your Founders Club! 😁
If you guys do see this, I have a question that just popped in my head: due to the slight modernization you guys have to do (modified frame construction, PTC and other systems, conversion to oil, etc.) will you guys be classifying 5550 as a T1a, like the PRR did with the J1 and J1a? I think it would be a nice nod to the Pennsy’s nomenclature, but I’m totally fine with whatever you guys choose to do.
I think they should classify it as a t1 a due to more modern guts
@@miles_da-tractor_man Well, the base design is a T1, but like I said it’s been improved. I used the PRR J1 and J1a as an example because they’re pretty much the same engine, except the J1a had a solid cast frame and different metallurgy. Just that alone distinguishes the two. So it would make sense for 5550 to be classified as a T1a, since it’s an improvement, albeit minor, over the original.
Just realized there are two Belpaire fireboxes that will soon be in operation in the US. Amazing progress you all have made. Will be awesome when we get to see 5550 in steam.
I am rooting for you in Japan.
It’s great to see you guys have made such great progress. I hope that 5550 will be running very soon.
PRR T1 No. 5550 is the evolved member of its class the original PRR T1 just like 60163 Tornado, 72010 Hengist, and LNER P2 Prince of Wales and B17 Spirit of Sandringham. I would love to see the engine being in steam someday.
the dedication of each and every member who helped with this project deserves all the praise, i can hardly wait to see what 2023 has in store for your team and the production of parts. Happy New Year T1 Trust and good luck in the coming year.
A gorgeous locomotive, so much money and effort has been invested, I love watching how the locomotive is created. Greetings from Russia.
Been following this project since 2018, I’m so proud of you guys at the T1 trust with all the progress you’ve made! Happy New Years and can’t wait to see what’s next for the T1!
An idea for a fundraiser: Have the person that did the animation at the beginning and end do a 30-45 min film of it running in different locations, seasons, high and low speeds, etc. I'd pay good $ for it.
The project is going at a good pace now.
Also, after watching the video I understand why was started with the boiler and not with frames like on most UK recreations.
These are nothing like the relatively simple plate frames on British steamers, but as I understood the original frames were cast in steel as 2 singel piece parts, including cylinders?
And the frames are going to be fabricated out of sheet steel? which I can imagine as these castings would cost a fortune.
The fun fact which describes the size of this locomotive, the British LNER A4 which has the official world speed record which the T1 trust is hoping to break, has equal sized drivers.
But the overal height of the A4 is exactly the boiler centerline of the T1.
The overal length of loco and boiler is 2x the A4 for the T1.
Hopefully the T1 project does initiate more new builds in the US like the A1 'Tornado' did in the UK.
Locomotives which I would like to see rebuilt are the afore mentioned NYC Hudson and Niagara, but the Milwaukee A class 4-4-2 and F-7 (not the EMD product) Hudson 4-6-4 would be great examples too.
It would be nice if the T1 build initiated some further builds. That fun fact is about the most non-fun fact there is, and about the most meaningless. That comparison is comparing the size of two different locomotives from two different countries. Fun fact: the T1 has larger drivers than the DRG E19 and is slower. Doesn't really mean anything... just enjoy the T1 for what it going to be...
@@muir8009 Longer then the Big Boy, when you also count their tenders. lol.
On the other hand, Big Boy is more flexible.
Shame they could not incorporate some Garrett setup for the drive wheels,(think heavy load wagon, here), would have made her slightly more flexible.
O well, maybe something for a T1b, if they are that nuts & driven.
And who knows, maybe this might see the restoration of more Big Boys.
That would be fun.
One can always hope.
Triplex always failed because the third set was not supporting a boiler.
Would be nice if they could continue with a mallard/Garrett, hybrid, if the mallard part is setup as a heavy load wagon (for tree's), then it would have a turn-plate to support the boiler.
Garrett style water bunker on the nose, streamlined all the way and a corridor tender for crew changes.
Find a place to hide a Wayne and/or Stark logo....., for the fun factor and.......
One can dream, not like that will ever happen.
Just glad that trains are cheaper then ships, just think what it would cost to resurrect a warship or so.
Hopefully, we will one day see a race between Big Boy & T1.
It's interesting to see something as gigantic as this being attempted from scratch. European and British steam faces an uncertain future because the green lobby/ environmentalists hold all the political power and are making certain that fossil fuels will never again be used for power generation. I'm not sure what the preservationists will run their locomotives on in the next 50 years, but it won't be coal from a mine and even oil is by no means certain.
I'd like to see a New Haven I-5 Hudson rebuild or Nashville Chattanooga & St. Louis K-2d be remade after the T1 is done.
@@rbleisem When you compare a Big Boy and a T1 with their tenders, the Big Boy is longer (130 some feet versus 120 some feet)
Very happy and excited that my donations are going to something beautiful! Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
Its great to see folks making cool projects about what they are passionate about
Legendary steam trains never die!!!!🚂
I would not worry too much about modern equipment to make it operable on main lines. The cab of the Tornado is full of electronics.
What a great project! Hope I live to see the new T-1 under steam!
I can't wait to see the next video and to see the engine done, keep up the fantastic work :)
I can’t wait for the legend to return 😎
Well... I can tell that the UK will have a bit of a complimentary project, in regards to reviving a unique steam engine that sadly went extinct.
Their's being the LNER P2.
It is so amazing seeing this project slowly shape together, I cant wait for her to be finished
Over here in South Australia we have something gong on too to restore a Locomotive that's basically a smaller cousin to the PRR T1 in design, Minus the Duplex Wheels. The SAR Class 520. Good to see some progress going on for its Big Sister in the US.
I find the idea of building a steam engine from scratch with PTC capabilities interesting.
It would be so cool seeing that in a flyby
this comes up a lot, but, as a Limey, it seems to me that a lot of US railfans would also love to see (a pair of...?) GG1 prowling the 'high iron' (as you chaps are wont to say) as well. I am familiar with some of the problems, for example the PCB's issue - over here there have been a couple of AC electrics restored to mainline running and i understand that it was not entirely straightforward!
otherwise, I take my hat off to you ladies and gentlemen - this is a terrific undertaking and I am sure you will have the success you deserve.
Pip-Pip!
What an education in manufacturing, having to understand complex knowledge from the 1940's and then translate into contemporary methods, and understanding complexities such as maintaining flexibility. Wjat a rewarding project that helps you appreciate both how far we've come and a few things that grandpa knew that might have otherwise been lost. Wonderful.
Continuate con tutto l'entusiasmo possibile per riportare in vita una delle più belle locomotive a vapore di sempre. Grazie! 😊
I honestly hope that 5550 beats the mallard speed record
Same
It would be incredible to see a steam locomotive go faster than basically all of am track
I can’t wait to see this mighty steam locomotive under steam and in operation, it will be a beautiful sight
Wow you are making some real progress.
I hope they can do it
I just learned about this and I’m all in
Happy to see this! A great project. And looks sharp!
Hopefully.... some day.... someone will replicate Raymond Loewy's beautiful S1.
S1 was a experimental steamer. It was never intended to enter revenue service for more than 5 years.
I told my son that 5550 was 43% done. That is a little less than halfway but it is still really good.
The last 10% will be the longest 10%.
i wish i would be there in the completion. finally seeing a steam locomotive irl for the first time
that runs..
i wanna go to america....
What you guys need to do when you finish the project is get a hold of Guinness world records and see if you can dethrone the British for the world title of "Fastest recorded Steam Locomotive". I think that would be an awesome achievement to add to the provenance of your new T1 locomotive.
The world record for the Mallard is only 126 mph, historically the T1 can reach speeds of 140 according to my light research. So theoretically, even with the configuration the T1 trust is going for, it is completely possible.
@@AJAX15221 historically the 140 and 153 by the S1 is the same as listening to the guy that says his skyline can do 180mph and produces 800hp.
In theory, yes. In theory the other obvious contender and the one that has officially met Mallards record over a constant rather than a momentary burst is still perfectly functional. Theres still those that consider 999's 112.5 to actually be a valid and achieved speed which says it all.
@@charlesrichter3854the British needed a downhill slope to break the record 😂
@@charlesrichter3854the mallard needed a HILL to get the “record”
Fantastic work. Gorgeous
OK, seeing them do something like this is inspiring me quite a bit, here. Since they’re producing this locomotive, here’s a few more extinct steamers that should be built in the future.
NYC 4-8-4 Niagara
NYC Empire State Epress Hudson
NYC Dreyfuss Hudson
PRR 2-10-4 J1
C&O 2-10-4 T1
SP 2-8-8-4 AC-9
SP 4-8-2 MT
N&W 2-8-8-2 Y6b
New Haven I-5 Hudson
B&O 2-8-8-4 EM-1
Just to name a few beautiful steamers that were sadly disposed of throughout history.
There is a rumor that the PRR buried a J1.
@@ronanvave560 Why am I not surprised
If they can rebuild a T1 then i hope that one day someone will restore the only SP can forward in the world
@@therailfanman2078 Southern Pacific had some absolutely beautiful steamers. The MT Class 4-8-2 Mountains are some of my favorite locomotives the SP had. Those things are so scarce in the O scale model world. I’ve yet to see one in O scale. That’s a beautiful engine that I’d love to see in person. And the New York Central Niagara is my favorite 4-8-4 Northern steamer ever. I love all kinds of 4-8-4 steam locomotives but that Niagara is something special in my honest opinion. It’s just a shame that these railroads didn’t even consider preserving a few for historical purposes. But seeing this thing being built today makes me think that others could be revived as well.
I hope Trains Magazine makes a DVD on the T1 build.
That'd be awesome! I'd definitely buy one!
Damn yall ULTRA nerds! I wanna see this train already
Jason used to be at SRI, I remember him from the 2009 video. It is insane what you guys are doing, and almost unheard of. Great work!
why this look SO REAL TOO ME!!!
WOW, it's been a while since I saw your VIDEO ! I am Amazed at Your Progress ! Best Wishes !
Good progress on this important loco.
They need to make PRR J1A 2-10-4 and restoration M1B that's lefted outside in strassburg PA
you guys are crazy to be building a WHOLE steam engine........
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like, even if you wanted to, you simply CANT build it like they did in the 40s.... a lot of that is a "lost art" now days
plus, with CAD, you can make it better, cheaper, and make it last longer
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i love it.... keep up the GREAT work
LOST ART??? CAD CAM??
THIS PROVES YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PRESENT DAY STEAM TECHNICIANS AND LOCOMOTIVE BUILDS!!
WOW, Very Impressive and Congratulations !
I can’t wait too see it soon
When they finish this train, it should do a freedom train tour. I'd really turn some heads when it rolls by. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Wow! You guys are amazing 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🎆🎆🎆🇺🇸🎆🇺🇸🎆🎈🎈 happy new year of the frame! And thank you for posting
Ween this locomotive gets finished and takes the top speed record, it's going to make Mallard look like the Stourbridge Lion!
No way in hell! Mallards record of 126 miles an hour is not going to be beaten!
@@rudycarlson8245just watch it
When this big guy is finnished,the next loco trust yall need to start,a new york central hudson trust,trust me I love the T1,it has made a mark in me,but to see a NYC hudson in real life. That would be a dream come true,so when the t1 has been built,please start the NYC hudson trust.
And a Milwaukee road streamliner
@@cadespencer6320 when the heck did the M.R get a stream liner?
How about you start a trust to build a NYC hudson?
@@chooch1764 ok their are many things wrong with that but ill narrow it down to 2,one I'm 15 and still in high-school and don't have the money to start something like that,and 2,even if I did have the funds to Start it,It won't last long if I don't have people to support my cause nor people to invest in the Hudson trust.
@@henrybigGreen Lack of confidence won’t get you closer to a newly build hudson. It takes a lot of time and patience. Also, I’m sure a lot of fans would donate to that cause I’m sure a lot of other railfans would donate to get a newly build NYC running. It’s just annoying to see some complain about the T1 project, saying they should’ve done a NYC hudson instead. Not saying you’re one of them, but that’s what I usually say to them T1 complainers.
Once you guys are done with the t1 you got to make a new member for the q2 or the j1.
Good luck gents💪
When the locomotive is finally complete don't let Amtrack boss you around because this locomotive need to be seen by the public because it is a significant part of railroading history and need to be doing mainline excursions and because Amtrack acts like their the big S*** that's why almost every stem locomotive in America has been relegated to heritage railroads
Wish I could donate but money is tight for me right now. When I can donate again I will!
...this is incredible...but I do have a question: once u guys r done with the T1, will there be any other projects?
Holy lord, probably take a nap
OMG you folks are building a T1? Holy project!
In the beginning I thought you were nuts But if the British can build an A1 pacific from scratch and Union Pacific can restore a BIG BOY then anything is possible
Curious if the cab schematics /inspection notes I sent you were of any use. Emailed photo copies 2 or 3 years ago
I hope the place where the engine will be assembled will be Altoona’s Judiata Shops where all the PRR steam locomotives were built in.
Not sure if it's big enough though, most likely not Altoona.
If not Altoona, during a podcast from The Roundhouse, I couldve sworn I heard the shops in Hollidaysburg, PA was one of the options, if it still is.
@@TranscontinentalRailfan Holidaysburg is just a short distance from Altoona. FWIW, Everret Railroad operates steam excursion trains out of that town.
You should look at the friends of 261. They purchased the old Rock Island RR Silvis shops. They are restoring the UP Challenger and a 2-10-2.
The T1 Trust said that the 3 best locations that are offering final assembly for the locomotive are located in Pennsylvania and Ohio, which is where the Pennsylvania Railroad mainly operated.
I would be pleased if you guys somehow got this train into locust grove GA
Will you guys do any different liveries for the locomotive if so will you do the Pennsylvania railroads green
Love what your doing!!
Love you guys do but my friend you have an audio problem I can't wait until this locomotive is built very excited for you to top speed test this locomotive good luck in all your endeavors God bless you guys keep up the great work
I have a question for these people: When the T1 eventually gets built, I imagine that the poppet valves that infamously gave the original T1s so much trouble due to their inability to withstand the high speeds and immense power that the T1s were capable of will be fixed. As such, do the T1 Trust intend to see if the claims of the locomotive's ability to reach speeds of nearly 150 miles per hour are, in fact, true? I think it would be incredible if someone finally beat Mallard's record after over 80 years.
Yes, and the most likely location is the TTC high speed testing facility in Pueblo, CO
@@oL5re9re55ion Would that location provide similar conditions under which Mallard set its record? Remember that when Mallard reached 126 mph, it was pulling a fully-loaded train on a main line track. I feel like it wouldn't be quite as legitimate if another steam locomotive exceeded that speed unladen and on what would essentially be a drag strip.
@@furioussherman7265 The main track at TTC is a 13.5 mile loop with several curves, not a straight line. Note also that the Mallard achieved the record on a downward grade. TTC track is level, so the T1 won't be aided by gravity like the Mallard was. I'm sure if they take it there to test the record they would do it pulling cars.
The A1 Steam Locomotive trust would just build Gresley's proposed Super A4, but teasing aside, Vernon Smith's work is well worth checking out because the Franklin valves worked very well. How well valve and seats would withstand rapid opening and closing is another matter. Distortion and leakage of the poppet valves and their seats were identified and this was one of the factors which caused Chapelon to revert to piston valves. Interestingly his pupil Porta would not consider poppet valves and neither would his successors. Light weight multi ring piston valves with cooled rubbing surfaces were preferred.
I dunno if you guys read the comments that often, but if there are plans for this thing to meet areas of PA. Would it be at all possible for it to at least visit Strausburg and (maybe) do some brief excursions or would the train be too heavy to run on those rails? And when the spirit of Altoona K4 #1361 is completed will there be a meeting?
There she is she's getting steamed again and 1361 too.
Fantastic video my friend like and happy New year !!
Regardless of what happens. There’s still more of a T1 in existence now that there has been in around 70 years I just wish Texas would do something with T&P #610 or the old texas & New Orleans 771 mk5 mikado that’s in grapevine……. I live not far from the route that 771 would take to make its trip from Victoria to Brownsville… along the gulf coast….. 771 has travelled over 2million miles on the coast hauling freight and pulling a regular passenger train….. I have found the remains of rail beds and a few trestles in Victoria, goliad, mathis
Corpus Christi, robstown and others….. I’ve also seen 771 in person didn’t know that it was a local to me locomotive at the time….. I did research on 771 afterwards. There are only 4 other mk5 mikados of her type. And 771 was scheduled for restoration around 15 years ago. But sadly it has never happened…… it sits exposed to the elements rotting away with layers of fading paint….. in grapevine….. 320 miles away from where she originally ran……..
Can you build the LBSCR E2 tank engine back to live as well? It will be very awesome to see them back up and running, including to overhaul them of much more bigger coal bunker for expand load of coal to travel long distance as well shunting freight cars and coaches in the sidings.
Haven't heard an update in about 10 months, is it still going strong?
When. She is. Finished are you guys gonna try to beat the mallards speed record?
I like how in the animation, the train looks more realistic than the grass lol
Everyone, when we see it completed. We'll chant " T1, T1, T1, T1, T1, T1, T1 " No spam by the way it's just describing what we will do ok?
I'm so happy that a pennsylvania railroad steam engine coming back from the scarp yard and pennsylvania t1 group make sure your guys get pennsylvania railroad passenger cars go with the train
guys hows the trust doing now theres been no updates in almost a year
And their website still has the progress update from January :P
once this is complete you guys should probably rebuild the hudson
WAIT A MINUTE... Is the tender original???😲🥺😯
5:50 oh boy, that is quite the modifications to that amt 800 series commuter car. (Im from montreal so ik the 800 series)
I wish my Dad could have seen this.
1:05 History in the Dark viewers know how important that piece is xd
It's been over a year and still have not received the parts drawing I ordered for my dad. Nor will anybody return my email.
We are showing everything ordered has been shipped, Not sure how your order got missed. Send an email to prrt15550@gmail.com with your order info and we will get it taken care of ASAP. Sorry about that.
@@TheT1Trust Ok thanks.
A revived locomotive‼️
When y'all finish the T1, what steam loco are y'all gonna go for next?
Hey 5550 maybe reach out to azl and get a z gauge T1 made like what they did when union Pacific restored the big boy. Maybe work with them to get some of the revenue go to the project. Now that suggestion was selfish for me. I really want a z gauge T1. But the ideas there maybe reaching out to other model train manufacturers to have a 5550 model in other scales to help found raise.
I donated $1000 for my fathers name to be on the plaque on 5550’s tender. I hope you guys stick to your pledge and make that plaque. Also to be honest, I don’t think you’ll get 5550 to over 126mph. NS will not allow it.
Jason Johnson confirmed that they can't do the speed record run in the East due to the infrastructure and speed restrictions emplaced in the area. It's why they are going to use the TTC Test Track in Pueblo, Colorado, as it is on level grade and has little to no curves. Also, it the track is known for testing high speed train sets anyways.