11 Things I Wish I Knew Before Getting A DH Bike
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Before you take the plunge into the world of gravity-fed riding, take a moment to check out ex-pro downhill racer Neil Donoghue's 11 things he wished he knew before buying a DH bike. Downhill mountain bikes are the best at smashing through techy rock gardens, smashing drops, and being as fast as possible when it comes to the rough stuff, but is this the bike for you?
⏱ Timestamps ⏱
00:00 - Intro
00:09 - Use It And Abuse It!
00:37 - Weight Can Be Good
01:11 - Pedalling Is Not Much Fun
01:36 - Risk = Reward
02:00 - You Can Get Some Bargains
02:37 - Learn From The Pros
03:06 - You Don't Have To Race
03:26 - You Need Good Tyres
04:06 - And A Spare Wheelset
05:07 - Get Pudded Up
05:40 - You Will Want To Ride It
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One thing i love about a dh bike is it's like a off road sledge. You drag it to the top and have the best time bombing down.
Bought my very first DH-bike this summer. A used Scott Gambler 720 - 2015, outstanding condition and a great deal...Im still a big noob when it comes to Downhill...but damn, it is so addictive!
yoo bike bros, i also got gambler 720 2016 one, it has been my dream bike since its debut.
@@todbringert5960 Awesome bikes for the price!
I have a Gambler 710 from 2015, it is a pre production model and has 300 bike park days ( Portes du Soleil/Whistler). Super reliable bike and versatile. Just put some frame protection, since the paint is not the best. You can send big stuff without any issue.
mine is a gambler 710 from 2018, it feels great but does your rear tire also always touches the seat when it is using its full travel, i have my saddle like in between my knees, mayby a little bit higher so i dont think my saddle is too low
@@raphaelbrunner4392 yeah, i use freeride saddle which is really short and i have it pushed all the way to the front, that helps a lot.
I bought my 1st DH bike this summer - Propain Rage. This bike moved my limits a lot. I am on my 4th season now since i bought my 1st enduro bike. The bike moved me to 2m drops, up to 7m gap jumps, over-the-road jumps, DH tracks. I sold my trail/enduro since I also have super enduro ebike. Its a pain in the a** to pedal somewhere, but man, the feeling going down... these bikes are eating the track like a candy.
another addition I'd definitely consider in addition to what was said here for kit would be a proper neckbrace. In lots of cases it can be a literal life saver
Definitely does save lives, if you are able to get one we recommend it!
You should absolutely be able to ride a down hill bike on flat sections. Even racing requires hard pedaling on flat sections and light inclines on the courses. Gravel is a bit of a pain, and I typically avoid it, but you have gearing for a reason. I ride a 23 mile round trip on asphalt not including actual park mileage to local trails on stock gearing. While I can ride some of the uphill stuff, it's slow as sin on any bike and I couldn't care less about having to walk the bike up hills.
I bought an under jersey body protection with elbow pads built in the arms. It means this one piece of gear covers my back, stomach and chest, as well as my elbows. With it all being one piece there’s no movement. You guys are sponsored by POC, give one of theirs a go. I use the TLD version myself.
ION E-Pact Elbow Pads , great stuff
G form elbow pads seem to work well. Soft and compliant with D3O type protection. Just need to be a bit longer for forearm coverage...
so i also really love and enjoy my dh bike, a gambler 710 from 2018, it just sticks to the ground but feels great on the jumps with those 27.5 wheels. My ellbow pads, i bought some new leatt ones but i always forget to put em on ;) i crashed really hard last week and my ellbows were the least injured thing i had, so they are useful for riders who like to feel protected but i just like my free elbows. And your Nukeproof dissent looks really beautiful, like the one from continental nukeproof racing.
That’s one of my next horses for sure,do love it!
Go for it! 🤘
A lot of people have moved away from downhill bikes as enduro bikes have gotten better, but I have two downhill bikes and still ride them more than any of my other bikes!
I've used Alpinestars paragon plus elbowpads for years now. They don't slip at all! Tvey are not most protective but they still offer a great amount of padding.
my dream DH as a kid was a Kona Slab Primo even to this day I still want that oldschool bike, finally found one slightly used at a great price, bout time I add to my ponies, soon sitting next to my Trek Hardtail will be a oldschool beast DH machine, can't wait to shred my local hills BC baby heck yeah silverstar for the win.
I ride a 2007 Kona coiler technically a FR bike but I’ve added triple clamps and kitted it out for dh and it rides amazingly
These bikes are banging and the bike parks are epic!
I like the Ninja Speed King elbow pads. I wore them all day at the Ride BHM bike park last weekend. They make a heavier set call Hooligans. I have those too. But the Speed Kings are very protective and very comfortable. And I don't like wearing pads either.
Have wanted a proper DH bike for a couple of years now. Nearly bought one as a my first bike, but went for the Nukeproof Mega instead. Something a little more mangeable for pedalling places and uplhill! I would consider buying a second hand Dissent if I can afford it ! - Also on the subject of elbow pads. I've not ever had an issue with the Endura ones I've been using.
the raceface indy D30 elbowpads are great, good protection (especially compared to ones you wont wear!) i wear them for trail/ enduro riding as i opened my right elbow up about 8 times in 2 months and they have been spot on, even for me who hates wearing extra stuff like kneepads etc
I wear these too, you forget you have them on
@@TheKingsVlog1 apart from slightly warmer arms 100%
I use those too, after a bit you forget you're wearing them apart from the warmer elbows.
#ElbowPads For years on my YZ250 I have run kids hockey shin pads on my forearms rather than elbow pads.
I never really hit my elbows (except keeping the off passing tree in line) but when I decide to examine the surface up nice and personal, I try and fly with elbows out, fists closed and use outer palm, and forearm to either land in a bench press, or roll over the outer forearm and rolling over the shoulder.
I got some cheap Ebay pads with ankle elastic padding... which actually worked as wrist protection... then just shortened the Velcro elastic strap to hold it in place under my MX top (that is as flimsy as a singlet but felt fine if I had the pads (and old chest/shoulder armour).
The poor ol things are beat up now... but NO scars on my arms after 10 + years on the YZ's trail riding (so like MTB, all terrain, not a nice clay MX track),
I used to ride with an old leather rode bike jacket and after one 'horizontal cornering' moment I was back home, checked the jacket and it looked like I took a razor to that arm and cut almost right through the 1.5mm leather full length of the forearm... After that I bought my 1st shin pads...
(Interestingly under a loose long sleeve MX shirt the pads hardly moved out of place, and were not held on tight... they just seem to sit in the right place, if you look at your forearm now, directly opposite the side you can see.
U can see my Leather jacket at the very end of my "Mt Vic MTB Skills area" 1mtr drop video.
I use the fox launch elbow pads, with d3o, pretty confortable
Got my Dh bike in 2018 n I luv it . N iv still not got to ride it at dyfi neil bro lol . Kona operator
Race Face Indy elbow pads work for me bc they have velcro straps at the bicep. I’ve crashed a few times and they don’t prevent all injury but take the brunt of the crash.
I have a POC Spine VPD shirt, which has a back protector and elbow armour with 3/4 length sleeves - everything stays in place nicely.
The best elbow pads I've found that don't move around are G-Form. They are well worth trying out. They stay in place, don't get in the way and you don't know they are there.
I really like the Scott Grenade Evo Elbow Pads. Comfy and dont move while riding...
I got an old 26" freeride/downhill bike, the geometry is like Allmountain, wanna rebuild it to an E-Bike, drives super comfortable after a Hardtail chinese E-Bike (even with Suntour NCX)
I love my poc vpd air (or something like that) ellbow pads. You dont really noticed them, especially when concentrated on a run and they dont movement around if you get the right size. Sadly they dont have the best Ventilation and bot top of the line security, but thats tk be expected
Elbow pads - I've found the only way to wear them is integrated in a shirt - It isn't cheap but I grabbed the Leat airflex shirt. I forget I'm even wearing it after a couple minutes.
Im using a Judge DH bike. Old but great fun at QECP 😄
Just got the dainese trail skin air and seems they stay in the place 🎉
I wish I had a downhill bike but can attest to the fact that anyone that doesn't wear googles has never taken a fly in the eye at 30 mph or worn glasses and had a wasp get trapped between the glasses and your eye.
Few years back in Les Gets riding. I hear something in my full face helmet.. i quick stopped, there was bee in my helmet 😮
I ride I know Mountain Bike and I have never once had any problems with any of that. I routinely do 30 miles an hour down hill. We’re here in Southern California. I do wear glasses. Still never been hit with a B in the face. Cuck
Ooooh! I had a bee get stuck between my glasses and my face! nightmare....but at least you can whip the glasses off easily
Even for non-downhill trails, I still like to wear goggles. When I didn't, I always would get mosquitoes going into my eyes. Also, it helps protect your eyes from the wind. After riding a session without them, my eyes will feel dried out from the wind going into them for hours.
Unfortunately, goggles don't protect from eating flies. I ate 2 during my 10 years dh "career"
100percent SURPASS
Elbow Guards
I found em at 50% , and i ride bmx with them. Especially with gloves they are very comfy !! I play guitar for a living so i "can't afford" to hit my hands too hard ;D
get a big cassette or a tiny front chainring and then use skill to go downhill fast, get a dropper and you have a comfortable do it all machine
Just get the Fox Baseframe Pro armor. It has shoulder and elbow pads that zip to the spine and chest protector. I also don’t like elbow pads because they always move.
I bought my DH bike for 1/5 of what it sold for new because the original owner had the misfortune to dent the BB tube in his first season of riding it. I've owned it for 20 years since- including my daughter racing the college circuit with it- and it still has the original 9.5" rear suspension travel it had when new. I don't pretend to need better, I just have fun.
Built to last! Sounds like you've got the right bike for you! 🥳
DH bikes are the best. Got one, beat my PR by 30 seconds on a 4 minute something decent. I even got 10 seconds faster with my old bike. The confidence gain is through the roof.
100% elbow pads they are the first pair I have ever owned and I can wear them all day long super comfortable and they don’t move at all. At least on me.
Spending money and time on visiting the Bike Parks is the costly addiction isn’t it? Well said. And Dyfi is the most consistently rewarding now Revs is closed.
If you find an elbow protection that doesn't squeeze and pull but yet holds in place please do a video...
I wear something relatively tight and long sleeved with elbow pads. It keeps the pada in place and I don't like baggy clothes for riding anyways.
I’d love one but I’m only an intermediate rider. I don’t stray off red runs as even they push me. So I can’t warrant having one.
I put a wider range cassette on my DH. I pedal it everywhere.
Literally weight is not a problem, and bigger cassette make dh bikes more reliable. That's a win win for me if you're talking about people who ride downhill locally. Not everyone takes a dh bike on holidays to a bikepark and leave it the rest of the year in the garage.
What size to get compared to my enduro bike? My enduro reach is 473mm so what numbers am I looking for a dh bike?
If 473mm feels like a good reach for you I would stick with it, downhill bikes tend to be longer due to the slacker angles and more travel. But if you did want to change the reach, have a look at how it will affect the wheelbase. The longer your wheelbase the more stable the bike will fell, the shorter the more manuverable.
Thanks for telling me its fine to push my DH rig... ive got a demo 9 pro and its my baby, but booooy oh boy is it shit to ride even on the flat 😂😂
I‘ve thought about renting a DH bike during a bike park visit but the rental bikes will all be front brake left here on the continent and I run my brakes UK style and I don‘t want to go over the bars on the first run. 😂
It only takes an Allen wrench and five minutes to swap them
@@mikeingle7973 On SRAM? On Shimano it‘s much more complicated.
I enjoy my Trek Session. I dun even have a chain.
Elbow Pads: there’s nothing that’s wearable and decently protective. But for those scratches and grazes, something worthwhile and bearable can be found. It’ll be lightweight though. The old Fox D30 lightweight sleeves were best: stable, 1/2 mesh and durable, but they don’t make them now. The nearest is the Fox Enduro D3O® Elbow Sleeves now. The clue’s in the name.
Remember, to get any elbow pad stay put, it must be worn next to the skin and have a ‘gel’ band just inside the top and bottom cuff that prevents ‘creep’. Also, over-sized is useless.
Agree with that, only the thinner D3O elbow sleeves seem to be able to stay on. I've got a TLD one that works well. Anything with bulk eventually moves its way down the arm.
26 isn't dead, some great dh bikes on 26 out there
G form elbow pads only ones I can wear
In my area anything more then a xc bike is massively over kill
If you want the worst of both worlds, get something like a "base" equipped Ibis Ripmo AF. It's a trail bike that isn't enough to do DH, yet also pedals like a cow at 34 lbs weight..
Wear lacrosse pads for elbow pads
Weight can be good not if it is my 2014 glory The frame is heavy enough as it is without the forks and tires and I can certainly vouch for not having fun paddling on flat ground street riding most of the day is hard work specially in 30° like we had couple of months. ago but when you’re riding from spot to spot laughing and joking With your mates along the way you don’t feel it but you do when you get home and you realized you shouldn’t of done a 7ft Drop to straight concrete Over many years do you ankles get used to it😂😂
Feel I'm too old to start riding DH. At 43 feels like a puncture away from a ruptured spleen!
You're not. Try it you'll love it!
Go for it. I took it up at 68. As its been said here, its addictive. You can choose green, blue or black , flow or tech
I think you would get a lot of views doing an instructional video on how-to or the steps to sell a bike on Pinkbike! There is no content on that topic!
I wish I knew the upcoming lottery numbers...
I don't get why mountain bike manufacturers stop making 25.7 wheels until medium size and not for large or extra-large... 😡
Nothing near me to justify anything over 160 travel. Only things close are sledding hills.
2024 GT FURRY is the ONE!
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going fast can be dangerous, wow what a revelation
Codes? Nooooo. Need some proper stoppers....
If you care about how your bike looks like scratches and stuff you’re biking for the wrong reasons and you should get a cross country bike
I don't think you've seen a properly stressed XC bike! 😄
There's only one thing you actually need to know about DH Bikes. Unless you are racing DON'T buy one!! You will be just as fast, if not faster on a lighter Enduro bike and can use it in a lot more places. Really for recreational riding DH Bikes are an absolute waste of money.
Riding a DH is much more fun than even a "super enduro". There's nothing like having a Fox 40 up front.
always wear a full face, open face helmets are useless
The fact that the Don is making this video cracks me the hell up. He’s been racing downhill bikes since most people probably are watching the channel or even alive. So he’s not surprised by having a downhill bike and what it means. GMBN is 1000% out of ideas.