Khaenri'ah's City Before The Fall [Genshin Impact Lore and Theory]
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With the conclusion of Genshin Impact Inazuma's Archon Quest story line, it's time to compile and theorize about the information we currently know about Khaenriah and its nation before the Cataclysm 500 years ago.
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Aster,,,, what is your opinion about albedo's comment about kaeya. The way he said that he only need three strokes to draw kaeya. Because both are from khaenriah,,,, I was kinda thinking are they close? Or are they hate each other? Not in a sense of shipping, but more to relationship between khaenriah chara that both know each other (since we see no interactions between dainsleaf with kaeya or albedo)
Now that Ei has said Khaenri'ah was a country that could not be ignored, we can guess that Khaenri'ah had a dark side that was huge enough that it drew the attention of the archons, aside from just weaponary and science advancement. Then, when it fell, causing the monsters from Khaenri'ah to invade teyvat, the archons finally stepped in.
Khaenri’ah was powerful enough to kill many gods and even the 5 archons except venti and zhongli
@@kyoya6882 And Ei
@@evisl.w6552 she wasnt the archon at that time she replaced the previous archon
I honestly think that they were attacked simply for their technological advacements and the Cataclysm was result of Gold using Abyss as last hope of defending the nation, which accidentally turned the citizens into Abyssal monsters.
That would also explain why the Archons are forbidden to talk about it. Their actions against Khaenri'ah had caused the Cataclysm to occur.
@@mneech609 i remember one of the domain descriptions talking about how Guizhong was interested in Khanri’ah’s technology. If it was about the advancements don’t you think they would’ve been destroyed way sooner?
Fun Fact: Ei's quest spelled out who the higher power was by having the name above the words Higher Power.
Which was Istaroth.
Yea that was super interesting!
Ei was casually name dropping the lost god of time.
When I saw that, I was so shocked
And Astaroth in Russian
@@atriyakoller136 Isn't Astaroth the demonized version of Astarte who is basically the middle east Aphrodites?
I find it interesting that Lumine and Aether are frequently associated with the Sun and moon, and the rulers of Khaenri’ah were known as the Eclipse Dynasty, where the sun and moon are momentarily aligned
I really hope we see and even meet Skirk someday. I just really want the traveler, and by proxy, us players to meet the woman that trained Tartaglia. I wonder quite a bit what her role is in the game beyond training Childe.
Yeah, same here. She survived the abyss for so long and trained Tartaglia (who could never beat her while she was using only one hand) into a very strong fighter in just three months (three days outside the abyss).
Exactly. I’ve wanted Skirk for literally the longest time now. I think not enough people talk about her. There’s not a ton to talk about but MAN is she interesting.
@@adlinreese Honestly, that’s the worst part about liking or having interest in a character with not much information available yet. There’s barely anything to discuss, lol. The subreddits for characters like Shinobu, Skirk, etc are barren and rarely get posts. No one can even do fanart because we don’t know what the characters look like, lol
I swear, she's just gonna end up having a normal NPC model lmao. Or maybe with a mask or some shit.
@@okuu5091 Gosh, I hope not.
i loved when you compared dainsleif to the water abyss herald, cuz there will be a new enemy in 2.6 version called "Black Serpent Knight: Windcutter" whose description literally says "the Twilight Sword used to be one of them as well", i can't wait to see dainsleif in the 2.6 and all their connections being more clear to us
why did u put spoilers in here
@@Rayamin15 what spoilers? saying that a new abyss enemy will have connections to dainsleif? oh what a surprise
@@starz917 what? no, i meant spoiling a leaked enemy
@@Rayamin15 there's nothing wrong about that + stop being a snowflake lmao
Please add a spoiler/leak warning:(
Can't wait for kaeya's betrayal / revenge honestly i feel worried for monstadt and venti the abyss order is all over the place an not to mention you have kaeya who's a big red flag plotting from behind, plus albedo's alchemy. Everything hinges on mondstadt possibly being destroyed by the abyss
I highly doubt Kaeya will get a betrayal arc. It won't make sense with his lore whatsoever. His character stories and Vision story make it clear that he abandoned his mission for Khaenri'ah and pledges his loyalty to Mondstadt. Heck, even his voiceline about Khaenri'ah shows his distaste for his nation
@@loola8908 Kaeya seems like he's just avoiding the inevitable and has yet to pick a side. He knows he's a dormant spy and still hasn't decided what he'll do when he's called upon. He also lies a lot when it comes to Khaenria, and we have yet to see him interacting with the abyss order. Mona knows this and says he's avoiding his destiny.
@@loola8908 Mona’s voice line exist, he won’t get betray arc, but prince arc
In my opinion, I think he still hasn't exactly picked a side, evidence is Mona's voiceline about Kaeya
Though, it honestly is hard to imagine a betrayal arc from him. But I don't think he's COMPLETELY in Mondstadt's side.
Just like whay Odile Mwaro said, he lies a lot about Khaenri'ah..
Overall, I'm really excited about what Kaeya will do, and what will happen
I don't think anyone was thinking Khaenri'ah was benevolent. But it's also clear, during events in the game, that what happened to them was beyond reprehensible.
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In Ei's new quest she describes how Inazuma was invaded my monsters 500 years ago, while Makoto went to Khaenriah. She says the hounds were tearing portals to make way for other monsters to invade. Since the hounds are most likely Gold's creations and Gold, it implies that Khaenriah was attacking other nations.
Also, "That place... was not somewhere that any archon could afford to ignore" also points to the conclusion that Khaenriah was an unholy place that needed to be purged.
At this point, everything seems to point to Khaenriah being an agressive or imperialist nation that tried to conquer by force, using the supposed human intelectual and technological superiority as an reasoning to go against the ones ruled by gods.
Khaenriah does have many similarities with a contemporary nation and, considering how the nations of Teyvat are inspired by real life countries or regions, it's interesting that people don't speculate oh that.
It's definitely interesting to say the least. I really do hope we see something like Celestia actually being in the right instead of the more predictable outcome of the gods being "evil".
@@babyjiren9676 in the Abrahamic religions, God destroyed any civilization that deaed to cross the line i'e challenging the allmighty himself and acting like they are Gods themselves , so maybe khaenri'ah Committed blasphemy by attacking the other nations with their robots and Celestia draw the line here and destroyed them
Are you talking about the archon quest or one of her story quests?
Do we know if Khaenriah was destroyed because of the monsters, or the monsters were actually made to protect them during the attack?
nope/ish, we only know that Makoto(Ei sister) go to Khaenriah after cataclysm started, my personal theory is that the gods attacked khaenriah first out of fear than Khaenriah could become a position threat in the future due to Gold creating life, then the survivors decided ask the abyss for help which led to thier corruption and the attack to teyvat, Makoto and god of woods where the first to arrive to Khaenriah no to fight but to try understand what happen and if they could combat the corruption, this was seen as treason by the other gods who killed Makoto and god of the woods and left before Ei arrived to Khaenriah, believing she would think the monster from Khaenriah killed her sister
@@250914616672152 do you have any Evidences?
@@mitab1 His evidences are "trust me bro" and "I made it the fuck up"... What he said is basically bad fanfiction
Khaenriah was destroyed by the gods because it was made by humans
GENSHIN THEORY:
-I noticed something in Genshin Impact while I was playing and I wanted to share it with all of you.
-As you know, all the abyss monsters such as abyss mages and hilichurls were once citizens of Khaenri'ah.
-And we also know that the Abyss Order’s members are all citizens of Khaenri'ah as well.
-All of the Khaenri'ah transformations into monsters seemed to be grouped based on class, rank or profession. For example all of the Black Serpent Knights transformed into the Shadowy Husks and only Shadowy Husks.
-This means we can guess what some of the other Khaenri'ah monster’s original professions were before they transformed.
-Firstly, let's talk about the Abyss Lectors.
-The Abyss Lectors are a part of the Abyss Order and are enemies. All Khaenri'ah monsters are all assumed on profession so what would have been the original Abyss Lector’s roles as a part of Khaenri'ah? Well on the wiki page we can see this line of text:
“ These creatures are evangelists that can chant malefic poetry of the Abyss to command their powers. “
Evangelists are “ a person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching: “ (as by the dictionary). Genshin has heavy themes of Gnosticism so this must not be a coincidence. And the last line of text reads:
“ Within the Abyss Order, Lectors refer to themselves as "exegetes."[1] “
Exegetes are “an expounder or textual interpreter, especially of scripture.”
And down below when we see what the Abyss Lector’s names translated into other languages, we see this:
Chanter, cantor, bard and scholar. These all refer to people who preach and teach in one way or another. Mostly, the cantor and scholar caught my attention. A cantor is someone, “an official who sings liturgical music and leads prayer in a synagogue.” And scholar is “a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities; a distinguished academic:”
This means that Abyss Lectors used to be Khaenri'ahn people (most likely scholars or officials) who taught, most likely in a way of music, chanting or speaking to preach and educate others about certain things. And based on how gnosticism is presented here, we can only assume that they are preaching about religion, if not at least something related to the divine and gods. This is backed up by their design as during their attack they start chanting and they both hold some sort of object such as a book or an orb.
And if they were an official who carried these duties out, by some extent, we can assume that they might possibly be priests. This can also be confirmed since religious roles do exist in Genshin as Barbara is a deaconess and Monstadt has a church dedicated to their god.
-Next we have Abyss Heralds.
Abyss Heralds are another form of enemy presented by the Abyss Order. On their wiki page we can see this:
“ They can transform with an Abyssal Gospel.[1] “
A gospel is “the teaching or revelation of Christ:”. Once again, very heavy themes of gnosticism. When at the bottom of the wiki page, their names translation part, we can see this:
Apostle, emissary and herald.
A emissary is “a person sent on a special mission, usually as a diplomatic representative.”, an apostle is” each of the twelve chief disciples of Jesus Christ.” and lastly “an official messenger bringing news.”. And from wikipedia I gathered this:
“An apostle (/əˈpɒsəl/), in its literal sense, is an emissary, from Ancient Greek ἀπόστολος (apóstolos), literally "one who is sent off", from the verb ἀποστέλλειν (apostéllein), "to send off". The purpose of such sending off is usually to convey a message, and thus "messenger" is a common alternative translation; other common translations include "ambassador" and "envoy".”
This means that Abyss Heralds are and were most likely messengers of some sort and based on the heavy gnosticism theme around it such as including the words “gospel” and “apostle” we can assume they were messengers related to the theme of divinity and gods.
-This is backed up by the Abyss Mages being a magician or sorcerer based on the word: mage “a magician or learned person.” and in their monster forms they also represented that with them using magic and spell casting as a form of attack and holding a staff with them.
Also backed up by the Black Serpent Knights as they were Khaenri'ahn royal guards and in their monster form they are represented once again, as guards and protectors with their designs having them carry large swords and armour.
-This means that Abyss Lectors were most likely Khaenri'ahn scholars or an official who seeks to spread the teachers of a god/their god by using poetry and music and that Abyss Heralds were most likely Khaenri'ahn messengers on a diplomatic mission, mostly likely having some connections to gods.
Not to mention that both Abyss Lectors and Abyss Heralds drop a thing called “gloomy statuettes”. The description on the item reads: “An idol made in the likeness of some unknown person. Even though this carving has seen many years pass, it still has not been damaged in any way. It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it like some holy icon.”
The “holy icon” they are talking about in the description most likely refers to a god or deity of some sort.
And they must have treasured this in some way as the description reads: “ It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it”
Not only that but this is also a drop material for Shadowy Husks/Black Serpent Knights.
-This begs the question, why would Khaenri'ah have priests and messengers who seek to spread godly teaching and messages if they themselves are a godless nation? And more of all, did Khaenri'ah worship a secret god?
rule number 1: never take a side
Tbh I had a feeling that Khaenriah was probably not great when Dainsleif told us that Khaenriah wanted to “till the field” with weapons and blood.
Hey Aster! Will we get a revised video on Enkanomiya with the new lore dropped in the new 2.5 event?
Ye most likely im just waiting for everything to drop
@@ChillwithAster and also there is enjou bomb shelling foreshadowing of paimon betrayal
Speaking of corruption, remember how our siblings sword, when we meet them in We Will Be Reunited, is covered in a dark purple aura? What if our sibling was corrupted by the Abyss?
Seems legit, even Paimon insists that there maybe someone above lumine’s status
@Enigma at near the end of We Will Be Reunited quest
I really wonder why *spoilers for Ei’s quest* why Makoto said “that place was not one any Archon could ignore” i mean sue died there so… i am really interested
those words really stuck with me too.
@@Leon-yg5gm ikr?? We are still missing so much information
Is this her story quest or part of the archon quest?
@@Sara-ik5po her new story quest
Great video. I have my own theory that the Traveler (Lumine/Aether) are actually "Divine Envoys" and royals of Celestia. They are constantly questioned if they're human. I think it makes even more sense they're not human because 1. they lived more than 500 years, 2. all the lore in-game of recent points to stars falling to the Seven and communicating with Celestia. Also their regal outfits with the star motifs all over seem to hint at them being that. I remember the video where the battle point menu tells of a King who sent their prince and princess to retrieve a power. I think them taking that power led to the destruction of Khaenri'ah and that's why they got judged by the heavenly sustainer of principles. The current state of affairs might be the sibling attempt to rebuild order and power back with Celestia.
Funny in Honkai we have a battlesuit of Mobius that is named Infinite Ourborus. Mobius is a character in honkai whos known for her snake like fighting style & obession with evolution infinity also life & death I wonder if were gonna get a character like her in genshin
Khaenri'ah reminds me of a city from one of the DnD settings that got obliterated by the God of Good.
If I remember the head of the Good religion of the setting prayed to the God to smite all evil in the city to which the God obliterated everything in it. Good or Evil it didn't matter.
Lets put the infos into coherent story:
Why they do all of these? Probably they want to "go back" to the surface as they once were just like enkanomiya people were freed by orobashi, orobashi died for this but the people finally back to the world they once from & mingle just fine, for his brave sacrifice, people of watatsumi who were once enkanomiya people that refuse to believe in god (due to the whole sunchildren scandal) choose to worship him anyway. Now they have no difference than any regular teyvat human that live a quaint life there.
Khaenriah's fate differ, they survive the second throne (who i guess is our present celestia) but receive no outer help, they survive with khemia & build a prosperous nation. Lets assume the second throne or celestia, who ban ancient human to back to the upper world is the antagonist & khaenriah realize that, they build military, infiltrate other nation (they killed enkanomiya jibarashi when tried to steal before sun n moon) & just all out planning to wage war to the 7 and their subjects. Did it justified? hell nah, innocent people know nothing of all these shits
500 years ago the one with ambition of khemia is not just gold, but the head of the dynasty, in mocking mask, pierro failed to warned the ruler that whatever they think about was a bad idea & dainsleif who are supposed to be guard resent the order, mean there's crack in the kingdom to push dainsleif to refuse protecting his own bunch. So I assume, an experiment was going on, a war plan is set, I bet they have clashing opinions among their own ranks, with the people n stuffs. Those who are content with their life vs those who just want war. The lectors probably preach on how false the divine & how humanity (or at least the eclypse dynasty) are the one with the truth. This believe turns into fanaticism that make them view gods n elemental being/vision in screwed way. FUNNY BECAUSE THE DRAGONS ARE THE RIGHTFUL RULER OF TEYVAT, not even khaenriah people deserve to rule
Then, something blew up, be it the void energy, instabilize leylines, something distrupted n blew in khaenriah face that make monsters appear everywhere & the ravage of those corruption leaked to upper world, khaenriah's machinery that purposefully build to fight was released to all corner of teyvat to clean up the monsters but in the end they were build to fight, so even if it's not monsters, they are hostile to non khaenriahn human. Mondstadt seems like a place that is familiar with khaenriah, since in a book jean read there's a heroic tales of khaenriah hero. 500 years ago KoF sending in troop to help quelling the monsters there but failed, then venti awaken in time of crisis to vanguard mondstadt in the knight's stead from durin, the biggest monster that leaks out, since they lost a lot of knights in kheanriah & grandmaster arundolyn traumatized to even lift a sword against durin. I assume, all archons rally there to help out, if they manage to suppress the monsters they protect both teyvat & khaenriah, so two bird in two stones, makoto rush with saiguu to help in khaenriah while trusting inazuma in ei's hand.
But then, celestia decide another way, they send in sustainer, they punish a whole nation for their sin of greed. They put curse (or say the void energy) to the citizens no matter what ranks they are, they destroy the nation, they make sure no one will remember khaenriah exist & they make sure their curse will make them never be part of the upper world. Makoto probably died due to the monsters n not because she defy celestia tho, but she know celestia is problematic just like venti feels thus she contact istaroth, shade of the primodial one from the first throne to help out her inazuma emergency plan. A
In CONCLUSION: Khaenriah & abyss order is embodiment of pride that hurt others, in the end, the humanity they proud themselves in is just their country, they don't care about human life that live under the seven. they don't care about the elemental being like osial, or andrius, or dvalin, they want to weaponize them if that mean to burn the heaven.
My suspiscion is Rhinedottir probably know she did wrong, probably she is on a journey on making things better, that's why she entrust albedo to alice (that seems have no beef over anything as long as her kids grow up happily), albedo know the sin of his master's past worried a same destruction can came from him, kaeya is a child spy that was left by his own father for possible revenge against what happened 500 years ago & dain is doing all he can to stop the abyss get what they want because in no way he will let another calamity to happen. And we have istaroth, the god of time that once rule with venti & was refered in enkanomiya, the one helped makoto with her plan to free the country from heavenly principles. What if, she as the god of time seen by celestia as threat for helping out the archons n human she had been hiding ever since
Or she's dead
POSSIBLE MUSIC GENRES FOR ARCHON DEMO THEMES:
*Kusanali:* Prince Of Egypt Band
*Murata:* KOTM Rodan Band
*Hydro Archon:* French Military Rock
*Tsaritsa:* Red Army Choir Hardbass
When the Tsaritsa is finally released, I will play WaW Russian Theme.
"The Second Throne and Celestia waged war anong one another."
Since when was this a thing? Last I recall it was between the Primordial one and the Second Throne. After which, it was believed the Primordial one won and sealed Enkanomiya.
But given this was only what that Scribe believed. It's possible the Primordial one didn't win and sealed Enkanomiya as an act of Mercy for the Second Throne wanted to get erase any remainder of the Primordial one and thus prevent future rebellions by having them ve the only divine beings in Teyvat.
Maybe Aster meant the Second Throne is the Primordial One since the Seven Dragons were the original rulers of Teyvat making the Primordial One, second. I'm not sure but I totally see your point.
@@vernonsbible3413 nah the dragons were before the first throne, the thrones are visitors from some place else.
for example, there's a theory going around that the twins/main character + sibling, would count as the third throne if the other worlder theory is correct.
yeah it's very up in the air right now, so that caught me
Like my personal guess is Celestia *is* that second throne going against the primordial one, but we don't know yet
Let’s go an Aster lore vid! Honestly Aster I wanna thank you for getting me invested in the lore,plus the increase in quality and narration is noticeable. And they’ve helped me a lot now that I’m locked up with Covid so thanks a lot.
I’m so excited for you to talk about Shoguns story quest part 2! The lore was incredible
Great video as always. Can't wait for your breakdown/update of enkanomiya lore
Amazing vid always, Aster! I had such a stressful day at college and this really eased my mind quite alot, thank you
OMG I love your videos Aster! I often replayed it at night, and it made me wanted to know genshin lore more, and appreciate the game's story and lore integration, not only their graphics! *love
Kaheinrinini' ah (if you can notice, I still can' t write it well!!) has such interesting lore, chapter 7 is gonna be so interesting!! What I' m curious the most is who' s the actual leader/king of the abyss order? What is the abyss/void? How did the abyss order connect with the abyssal power? Do some Gods posses that power? I wonder if the true leader is an old archon or a God, it would be pretty ironic for Karhebfjehbd' ahn people to have a ruler that is a God, though I doubt they will be, but maybe God-like? Who knows!
I also really want to know how the structure was for Khaerni' ahahah, did it have very bad stuff like Enkanomiya, or was it prosperous AND also a nation with fair rules without anything shady going on behind the back?
I won' t go into the story of the 2.5 event, but the lore there is pretty interesting as well! I hope you' ll do a video about it (you will) and I can' t wait to see it~
there was a mention of surface people willingly went to deep abyss to create a region named Khaenri'ah, as they were the ones who opposed the gods, Celestia. Khaenri'ah was relatively new than Enkanomiya, and the timeline is totally messed up
Nice video Aster. Since even more lore was dumped on us during the 2.5 update I've been attempting to categorize a lot of this information as well. Currently focusing on the Three Realm world building that was introduced to us via Enkanomiya.
For starters we know Enkanomiya exists in the Vishap/Elemental realm or Realm of Light as they refer to it. An interesting name for a Realm underground. Now if Enkanomiya exists in the Realm of Light then as another underground civilization wouldn't Khanriah also be another human city in the realm of Light? To me its confusing since the Abyss Order clearly seems to come directly from The Void realm. There was quite a lot mentioned about all 3 realms. The human realm has its leylines, the elemental currents of the Light realm and the dark currents of the Void realm were mentioned by Tsumi specifically. Like how Void energy is destructive to both humans and elemental energies and yet addictive to the Abyss Order even though it's still destructive in nature. A convoluted explanation I'm still attempting to unravel.
We also learned that 500 years ago Inazuma also had a great flood of darkness with armies of monsters which Makoto was not able to deal with since she had more alarming issues in Khaenriah where she dies and her mind is retrieved by Ei. There is so much to unpack there its hard to begin but this does tell us it wasn't just Khaenriah but most likely a great upheaval from the Void realm itself.
Here's my theory, just as the leylines must be purified to remove blockages the elemental currents of the light realm and the dark currents of the Void realm most likely have a similar function and issues. Rift hounds were mentioned specifically attacking leyline energy in preparation for invasion. We know Gold had modified the Rift Hounds so this tells me Khaenriah was weakening the barrier to the Void realm intentionally. Perhaps as a means of mass transportation? Yes its just a theory but how else do you explain there biomimetic technology turning up all over the world?
Still working on putting all the pieces together and figuring out how Khaenriah fits into this puzzle but definitely enjoying having more to work with for a change.
Khemia in arabic means chemistry so that partially proves it is quite advanced in the sense that its as variable and complicated as real life chemistry....
the ruin guards etc were clearly weapons of khaenriah, now why do their weapon are all over tevyat? 1 possibility is that khaenriah were planning to invade tevyat or already in the process of invasion when the cataclysm happens.
This is so helpful! The story and lore is so spread out, it’s hard to remember what happened in earlier patches. All I can remember is that I’m supposed to be looking for my sibling :p.
Do you think its possible Khaenri'ah decended from the second throne that lost, which is why they are hell bent on waging war with humanity and bringing down celestia? The electro lector's roles as evangilists made me think this was possible, and also explains why their so suspicious of celestia.
Also I think Gold discovered abyssal energy which is described to corrupt and instill a hunger for violence/desctruction.
*looks at childe
Yeah checks out and explains why she suddenly made her creations wreak havoc and trigger the cataclysm, because when we look at the Dragonspine Spear and the Cinnabar Spindle descriptions it makes it seem like it is not in her nature to do such a thing. It is also possible that the Ruler of Khaenri'ah ordered her to use abyssal power to make her creations more stronger.
2.6 leaks are suggesting a follow up to the We Will be Reunited archon quest through the chasm so the abyss is probably looking for something to progress the loom of fate operation... it will explain why they had to seal off the chasm, especially if abyssal energy is spread there.
The snake eating it’s own tail, eternity, is actually a pretty good idea considering he’s immortal!
no one talks on how dainsleif get his immortality punishment, but then i notice that dains is most likely a cyborg.
Wait Im actually early
Nice video btw. Good job Aster!
Fun fact: Ophiuchus is also referred to as the 13th Zodiac with the title as you've said is the Serpent Bearer, like how Libra is the Scales
Was wondering if there was any confirmation as to if the First Throne was actually Celestia or just the Primordial One. For all I knew there was no explicit hints that Primordial One and the Shades where part of Celestia or not. Maybe the 2nd Throne is in fact Celestia and defeated the first throne? That would explain why they wanted Khaenri'ah gone and banned the ppl of Enkanomiya from ever returning...Maybe the Khaenri'ah ppl worshiped The First Throne and rejected the 2nd(Celestia)...Genshin lore really is intriguing. Good Video.
attack on titan before the fall moment
I remember Khaenri’ah being said to be a nation of old, so I wonder how old it actually is, and does it predate the archon wars and the Seven. How long has the Eclipse Dynasty ruling? How did they come to rule? And how do the citizens have star shaped eyes?
Khemia literally means chemistry in my language.
Well made video, I was already aware of most of the lore you discussed but I actually didn't know that Khaenri'ah introduced the Day/Night Tech to Enkanomiya, at least that is my understanding (let me know if I'm wrong). Let's just say I now have a playlist with several of your videos that I will dive into lol.
They did not, enkanomiya invented it themselves during their time underground. Khaenri'ah was contemporary with them at some point, and visited before they moved up to Watatsumi, trying to find the forbidden book orobashi was killed over. Though it seems they are younger then enkanomiya.
@@RenaDeles Ah I see, I knew I had something wrong, appreciate the clarification!
Raiden quest spoilers:
Are the things that corrupted durin and the things that were in inazuma when khanriah (idk how to spell that) was being attacked the same thing? I kinda forgot most of the lore but I rember something about dark sky and makoto going to khanriah alone
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Corraction: celestia and the second throne didnt fought, the primoridal onr fought them
'"Who are thay preaching to ? The void ? " i love that line sm
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since the dwarf alberich created a ring using rhiengold is it possible gold made albedo using the genes/DNA of the alberich clan?
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i kinda have a different take on why khaenriah has a lot of weapons, I mean then live underground and its the land of dragon which was the ruler of the world before Primodial one came. I mean they have to defend themselves against the dragons now that the land sunk into the abyss and the gods were no longer with them. In this sense, when dain said land was not to be farmed but to be fought for with steel and blood it could mean that their natural enemies were so great that they had to constantly defend their land or else they wouldn't be able to survive. Also since they were underground and had barely anything natural fauna and floral, their land probably also cannot be farmed.
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wait wait wait. if the part where there was a second throne next to celestia in the heavens that fell down to teyvat is true, this can just prove the theory about dainsleif having a sister. because in the battlepass lore it talks about two royal siblings who once lived in the heavens, so of course it can easily be proven wrong since dain was from khaenriah, in teyvat. but after discovering this?? the theory continues to be possible maybe
and this could hint that the abyss sibling's reason for helping the abyss order is because the siblings were once from there in khaenriah because it wasn't originally from teyvat but in the skies maybe... plus the fact both the traveler and dain don't own a vision?? this may sound vague for now but this just feels possible to me
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I wonder...
If Khaenri'ah managed to find out that Celestia was from another world following Enkanomiya, Celestia ain't having it.
If the Primordial One won the duel it had with the Second Who Came and if it loves humanity so much, why ban the people of Enkanomiya from returning to the surface? Pretty suspicious, especially for a god that 'loves humanity'
There is vishap in there. Vishap people trying to invade human realm & keep expanding if they open up enkanomiya wide open without the light tower
That's why Tsumi want to destroy the daichi tower to make voshap people go to the surface
As a league player and a genshin player I love this ❤
This aside im still really intrigued about alice. like Who is she aside from Klee's mother? She seems to know a lot. Or am I just digging in this really deep. Who knows Klee's mother might actually help us find our sibling....
Interesting that they bring up black soil specifically... fun fact. Ancient Egypt's name in it's native tongue is Khem, which is the same etymology as khemia from which the words alchemy and chemistry come from. Egypt was, at a time, known for it's rich fertile soil that the Nile produced which was... you guessed it - black. I think Khaenriah is supposed to mirror Atlantis, however and Sumeru is Egypt/Alexandria... but it's likely that if Atlantis did exist and it was as advanced as Plato described and if it did exist in the region of northern Africa, it's likely that Egypt derived a lot of it's alchemical practices and ideals from Atlantean migrants after it was destroyed.
is that true khaenriah underground realm before the disaster ? where i can read more about khaenriah
I miss Dainsleif in the story
I'm glad he's coming back
now thats a spin off i want
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In a few quests it's says that khaenri'ah fought aginst the abyss
Not sure if this is helpful but from what I can remember, ruin guards are scattered around Teyvat by walking themselves aimlessly with no purpose after Khaenriah was destroyed. Except the only thing it solely remains is the way it is programmed to attack. They don't have emotions nor memory to hold. However, there are hints that the Abyss or Fatui were fixing these ruin machines for their benefit. The memory is hazy so I'm not entirely sure...
The Ruin Guards are yep. The other kinds of ruin mechanations on the other hand are unsure
Loveeeddd the video, i just think the background music is just a tiiiiiny bit too loud
After reading Shadoewy husk archive it's they defend,prepare to die and still standing even wounded this is the will of khaenriah knights and it's not jibarashi we see structure in enkonomiya had spear sword And coral shield which it's weird
Where can I find that structure?
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“Evangelists” of scientific fields like alchemy would be considered philosophers.
This is most likely what abyss lector’s are. Or something similar like sages.
guys this is wayy off topic but thoughts on the seelies of teyvat? ever since i first started genshin impact, they always intrigued me
One thing I noticed in this video was about Khemia being the base for the word alchemy in genshin. If khemia is the artificial creation of life, and alchemy is the artificial creation of non living things, then we can assume the prefix "al" to imply non living. A connection we can make with this would of course be Albedo, his name beginning with that same prefix we assume to mean non living. While we know obviously that Albedo is artificially created already, it makes me wonder if the second part of his name, "bedo", has any significance. Sorry if this has all been said somewhere before, but even if someone noticed it first I noticed it myself and thought it was pretty cool :)
Edit: while Albedo is named after a stage im alchemy, it could still be the case that the people writing genshin's lore have taken his name and given it a meaning beyond its original inspiration that fits within their own world, giving it a layered meaning from both the origin of the name and a new meaning given to it specifically in the context of genshin lore. Maybe its a bit of a stretch, but I think it is plausible still.
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Daughter of Rhine.
Gold fathers name, Rhine.
I may be completely off base, but Dainsleif who is the Boughkeeper, and had access to Irminsol, messed with Lumine’s memories. She believes she is the Abyss princess. (I also believe Dainsleif is the 12th Habinger under cover to The Jester). (but that is another story)Lumine is older than 500 years and after she and her brother were summoned to Trevat, she became Skirk who was the Abyss princess and trained Tartaglia as a young boy, yet meant him again as a man and doesn’t remember! The reason she becomes so angry with Dainsleif, is because during their second travels, she begins to remember all sorts of terrible things and sees his manipulation. I feel the Jester has total control, even over the Tsaritsa, and has manipulated all sorts of plots to move events over thousands of years toward
revenge and ultimate power.
The line about Makoto saying that no Archon could ignore Khenriah is it Khenriah at that moment or Khenriah in general because that line came after she said that she had some idea of what was happening
And another thing saying that she knew what was going on and had some idea about what might happen yet she went there willingly
Also who do you think the higher divine Entity is? By the sound of it, it looks like whoever they were, they were on the Archon's side (not necessarily Celestia tho)
And what do you think Makoto meant by the sacred Sakura being finally free from the clutches of the heavenly principles
Makoto line also implies that all of the 7 were in Khenriah + a higher divine Entity yet 2 of them presumably died there so what exactly were they up against, one of Ei's line only say " that thing" so whatever it was, it wasn't human ( so maybe not a Khenriahn thing) or a God that they were facing. Could it have been the night mother or something even worse ?
Umm, Hate to break it to you but the game spelled it out in front of us during the quest.
Above the Words higher power is a Superscript spelling out Istaroth.
@@silverhawkscape2677huh is that so hmmmm....
it must have been just for you then coz I didn't see any dailog spelling Isthroth
Hate to break it to you but there are other Gods too other then Isthroth
@@Ren_rz It's in Superscript aka small letter about big letters. Just watch the cutscene again when Yae says Makoto got help from a higher power. They spelled it out loud.
And Istaroth is the only one who fits the Bill as the only named god of time, god of moments.
@@silverhawkscape2677 moment isn't the same as time
I have a screenshot of it and i still don't see it
@@Ren_rz If not appearing then must be a glitch.
As for Ishtarot--- also know as Kairos, she is the God of Moments, the God of Time is one of her many titles --- according to the "Before the Sun and Moon" book, she was every moment of happiness, of obsession, of anger and more.
It's possible that Makoto got help from Ishtarot to send the Sakura seed from the past to Ei through the future --- is a time paradox. Ei doesn't remember when she planted the seed, but only she knows about the Sakura Tree's existence.
What if we look for where all the ruin guards and biomemics are and try to place where the main parts of the war were, the war seems to be world wide but where exactly did the battles take place
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Aight mihoyo what kind of arc are u gonna give karya your suspicious mihiyo
but did Khaenri’ah have cats?
Hi, welcome to my ted talk. heres my personal theory about the traveler, not about khaenri'ah itself. Disclaimer: I will be saying aether because I use male traveler, just imagine it as lumine if you use female traveler. Also..
!!spoiler warning for "we will be reunited" quest!!
I personally have a feeling the twins could be part of the destruction of khaenri'ah itself / the abyss order, or maybe even both. But without knowing. Remember that God cutscene? Right, why didn't she kill aether after capturing lumine? We obvious know lumine is in the abyss order as well, but if she didn't have any plans for aether, why would she want to let him live? Sure, you could say "she didn't care" or something, but it doesn't make sense. They clearly were fighting each other before lumine got captured. Let's say she didn't kill lumine because she knew that she was going to be helping the abyss order. Let's also say she knew that aether was going to try to fight evil and show signs of a plan that doesn't include the abyss order, so why would she let him live? Maybe we'll get an option along the lines of saving / joining lumine in the abyss order or saving paimon. But there's more.
What if.. paimon is the unknown God? This may or may not sound crazy but.. Think about it, they both have white, long hair, strange colored eyes, outfits that scream "I'm a god", and just overall seem very similar. Obviously, mihoyo / hoyoverse made paimon more child like for the memes and to show the side of her that usually isn't serious. It's already speculated that both paimon is the god and that she has a true form. Put the two and two together, it seems like it could be very canon. But why would she want to befriend aether and travel with someone she potentially wanted to kill? In my opinion, said god would probably use it to befriend the traveler, and then suddenly reveal herself, as some sick way of "payback" for escaping death. This seems very reasonable, as the God's personality seems very selfish, high of herself, very evil, and the vibes she gave to me seem like "I'll do anything to make you suffer" to her victims. A way to remind aether that he can't never escape her. So, while he may be safe right now. I feel like a little later into the story well see more cutscenes from khaenri'ah. Maybe even some including kaeya and tartaglia.
Well, that's all. Thanks for tuning into my ted talk. & maybe let me know what you think about my theory!
this is my theory
SPOILERS
khaenri’ah created field tillers aka ruin guards so that means they also created the giant versions of them. Ei is scared of something khaenri’ah created but I don’t think she would be scared of the giant field tillers because she is a god so then that means khaenri’ah created something really powerful and bad. Since khaenri’ah was destroyed by gods what I think was that gods were protecting the world from what they created. And don’t get mad at me this is just what I think.
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0:01 why it looks like Prince of Persia
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What if dain is the sowred kaeya talks about ? That dain is simular to albedo made out of a celestial nail
What if khaenri'ah survived the nailing so celestia send the archons to do the rest
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Great video! Just curious, since khanria is an underground nation, why can wr6see the sky when the abbyss sibling has flashbacks? At 15:45 eg
Did it start overground but fall down after the cataclysm? Or is it related to the 'upturned world' theory?
Btw Kaeya better fits Alberich's son, to which I forgot the name of.
Khaneriah was destroyed to stop the honkai from coming
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My theory: The fatui are actually the ones responsible for the destruction of khaenri'ah... The unknown god shown in the beginning could be the one who made the fatui army and they are collecting Gnosis for power... However the other twin villain said that they want to destroy all the archons because they probably was cutting the job for the fatui to collect the Gnosis because the fatui could get stronger once they got all the Gnosis, your other twin isnt the main villain in the story, its the unknown god that could possibly be behind the fatui's work, thus the Abyss wants to destroy all the archons so the unknown god cant gain the Gnosis from archons
Edit: and also dain warned us to not trust the archons too much thus they're also responsible for the destruction in khaenri'ah, perhaps the reason why archons were giving their Gnosis, is that they feel guilty for the destruction and they gave their Gnosis away so they were not the one to blame, since the celestia ordered them to destroy khaenri'ah, and as i mentioned earlier, the unknown god could be the boss of fatui
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I wonder will we get to travel to Khaenriah or will they just skip it?
According to the official roadmap we will get to travel to Khaenri'ah. It's supposed to be the last act of the Teyvat chapter.
@@lemonbunny71 wait, so no celestia or unknow god?
@@impostorsyndrome1350 I don't know about Celestia as it wasn't shown in the roadmap. The roadmap only focused on the 7 nations and Khaenri'ah. But it would be disappointing if we don't make it to Celestia. Maybe they didn't want to spoiler it in their roadmap.
The video is nice and it is easy to follow you as you use a good tone, but the music is a bit too loud and it made it hard to listen properly. The theory is really interesting though, I also thought that maybe Khaenri ah is not completely innocent. I wouldn't say yet they deserved what happened to them, but I don't think they are entirely white. I wonder if they tried to colonise Teyvat !
What if dain was kaeya's father...lol
me who isn't an English native speaker and didn't understand half of what she said:
shall, anyways.. *continues watching*
I belive that Celestia is above good and evil, and that khaenri'ah crossed the line with Celestia, maybe the rulers of khaenri'ah did something they shouldn't have done and they paid the price
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