WI v Chandler Halderson Trial Day 10 - Defense Closing Argument by Crystal Vera
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2022
- Live Coverage: WI v. Chandler Halderson - Dismembered Parents Trial
Happening in Court:
Jury Instructions by Judge
Prosecution Closing Argument by Andrea Raymond
Break
Prosecution Closing Argument by Andrea Raymond
Defense Closing Argument by Crystal Vera
CHARGES:
Victim Bart Halderson:
COUNT 1: First-degree Intentional Homicide
COUNT 2: False Info on Kidnapped or Missing Persons
COUNT 3: Mutilating a corpse
COUNT 4: Hiding a Corpse
Victim Krista Halderson:
COUNT 5: First-degree Intentional Homicide
COUNT 6: False Info on Kidnapped or Missing Persons
COUNT 7: Mutilating a corpse
COUNT 8: Hiding a Corpse
BREAK
Jessica Crawford - Firearms Examiner
Laura Matson - Lantent Print Examiner
Date of crime: Est. between July 1 and July 8, 2021
A Wisconsin man stands trial for allegedly murdering and dismembering his parents without remorse, and providing false information on their disappearances. Chandler Michael Halderson, 23, faces charges including first-degree intentional homicide. Remains from his father Bart Halderson, 50, and mother Krista Halderson, 53, were found days apart, authorities said.
Defendant Halderson reported his parents missing July 7th, claiming they left their home in the Village of Windsor days before on the 1st. He told WISC-TV at the time that they were going to the village of White Lake, Wisconsin.
“My last message I got from them, they were going to White Lake for the Fourth of July,” he told “There are some festivities that go around there. Better drink prices at the bars. Stuff like that.”
He said that to his knowledge, they were then going to their cabin in Langlade County.
“Along the way, they could’ve stopped many places,” he said. “I wouldn’t know all of them.”
He was allegedly just feeding everyone lies.
Bart’s torso was found in rural Dane County, while remains from Krista were found in Sauk County and property run by the Department of Natural Resources, according to court documents obtained by The Wisconsin State Journal.
Their son had been searching Google for terms like “Body found Wisconsin,” “Woman’s body found in Wisconsin,” “Wisconsin dismembered body found,” and “Dead body found in Wisconsin,” authorities said. Investigators suggested Chandler Halderson used to a visit to property belonging to the partner of his girlfriend’s mother as cover to hide his father’s torso nearby. He had shot Bart Halderson at least once before dismembering him, officials said.
According to investigators, Halderson said after his arrest that “you don’t know the whole story,” and that he “didn’t feel bad about what I did.”
[Booking photo of defendant Halderson, and picture of Bart and Krista Halderson via Dane County Sheriff’s Office]
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The irony is that if Chazzle hadn’t killed his parents but had killed someone else, his parents would’ve gotten him the best defense attorneys money could buy. He killed the only two people who unconditionally loved him. They were nice people. You can see it in the text exchanges. He’s heartless and evil and I’m glad he has NO ONE to save him.
Exactly..his poor parents. Such good ppl. You can tell by what friends and family say. I believe his gf truly cared for him also.
How the heck does one go from Eagle Scout to this? Clearly he wasn't so mentally ill that he couldn't stand trial... It is impossible to grasp how a "sane-ish" person can kill his parents, chop them up, and disperse their bodies. Why didn't he plea? It sounds like he didn't want a defense.
@@joii_j I hope she doesn't fall for more of his lies and go to visit..or write to him!!!
100%
@@June-tb4vi ikr! I don't think she will. Looks like she has a good support system. Her Mom & Chess I'm sure will protect her from this Monster. Honestly, after learning what Chaz did was probably enough to keep her from dating for a while. Can you imagine how horrified she must have been??
This closing argument is an excellent example of what not to do when defending a murderer.
-Don't lie during your closing argument
-If the prosecution has a strong case, don't say it's a weak case
-Don't misrepresent what 'a reasonable doubt' means
-Don't insult the jury's intelligence
-Don't insult the jury
-Don't accuse the jury of crimes
-Don't criticize the prosecution of not proving motive, then immediately remind the jury that the prosecution doesn't have to prove motive
-Don't criticize the medical examiner for not know irrelevant facts about the bodies (the order of the wounds...seriously?)
-Don't complain when the prosecution doesn't dehumanize the victims
-If you want to dispute a fact in evidence, do it during the trial
-If you want to make assumptions about why the client did something, call the accused as a witness
Well said & exactly right. Don't swear too would be another. She was absolutely appalling & what a total cop-out tactic to wait until all is almost over, with no witnesses called whatsoever, to nitpick and downgrade such a big piece of who this waster was, a liar & a skinny runty one at that. How she could stand there and say that his lies had nothing to do with this & that "all kids lie"? Hmmm well first up he's twenty piggin three so not exactly a 'kid' I've never seen a defense like it. There are plenty of convicts who also had little chance at trial because of overwhelming evidence that at least had a defense who LOOKED like they were doing something. Unbelievable.
Not disagreeing with u, but if she didnt say those things im struggling to think of what she could have filled that time with. I mean homie is guilty as shizz so she really didnt have mich factual stuff to go off of. Def seen better closing arguments though fo sho. She seems like shes fresh out of law school. Could be her first case honestly... haha fellow attorneys were probably like "lets give this one to the newbies" lol
Chandler made her a liar!That's all she got!
It's almost like she wants to loose
@@frankieb409 each state has its own laws. No death penalty in that state.
Wow she has no business commenting on what the jurors appear to be thinking that's totally uncalled for
I almost spit up my drink when Prosecutor Brown threw shade at her about how he isn't in law school anymore and that he does this professionally for a living. So savage.
I was also like "Yeah, Mr. Brown just roasted her on that!"
I love this prosecutor!
@@loriludwig5714 Yes, I do too! He absolutely knows his job!
loved it❤
Time stamp for this part?
I feel like I just witnessed the *worst* closing argument I've ever heard.
I hope this will be used as an example of what not to do for future Defense Attorneys and the Prosecutor's opening statement as an example of excellence.
This is ensuring his life sentence
The whole time I’m thinking how can she defend this monster?! Then I hear the closing argument and I realized okay she can’t lol.
Me too!
Cringe worthy bad. Had trouble listening to all of it. Embarrassed for her.
Yes, you just heard the worst closing ever in history so far.
This isn’t a closing argument in a high profile murder case. This was Gilda, my sophomore year debate partner practicing her debate the night before a match after drinking 3 large sangrias and 3 hits off my bong. Bless her heart
There is so much unprofessionalism throughout!
I’m dying😂
I am on the inside right now because I’m tryna have a late sweet tooth snack 😆😬
Haha. It kinda was reminiscent of that. Defense attorney had her moments but overall was a little unfocused. It was like she was about to make a great point the whole time but never really comes through lol.
I agree with all you said, but for "bless her heart" - she's beyond disgusting!
“Yes, he didn’t have a job, but nothing came out that he needed money.”
Are we serious right now?
They had stopped his allowances which were probably pretty large. And with their disappointment in him he would probably have had to get a job and make right some of his lies. No one needs a lot of money but Chas wanted to live as though he had money. He wanted the nice car nice home. He wanted to have a reputation of a rich person who worked hard for his money. Maybe a full half million dollars was not what he was after but a stylish upkeep was something he was after and revenge for not being able to have that money coming in regularly. I don't think he believed he was able to graduate at good enough grades to get a good job. I believe he had low self-esteem and could not get out from under his lies
I wondered if he was asking for tuition money from them for his ‘non attendance/enrollment.
Yeah I had to roll my eyes at that one. Hours of testimony showing he's a lazy mooching jobless slob in need of money doesn't count?
I’m glad it wasn’t just me! What does that even mean? Everything costs money!
She’s like “you’re allowed to use your common sense” but not when it’s to do with if he needs money lol
And please tell me who else could have burned these bones in his house? Who cares what time it happened lol
06:39 "Sorry, I made a weird noise."
Her whole closing argument was a weird noise.
HAHAHAHAHA
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Very unprofessional slurping Starbucks during your horrid closing arguments
😂😂😂😂😂pretty much
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I’m shocked that an attorney can be this incompetent😳
I think that is their plan. Ineffective counsel is grounds for an appeal.
This is my first too
@@aprilschreiner8996 This has to be the only reason for this joke of a “closing argument”
What would you do in her place?
@@bakielh229 Ask for less harsh verdict and not deny the tragedy that had happened? lol
She is so aggressive with the jury. I don't see how anyone would listen when feeling attacked.
Agreed. She was all kinds of wrong. She at least had willing. No style. No substance. And a little in yer face. The judge was the standout in this case. He presided so well. Defence was kinda defenceless. Odd watching business professionals work when 90% beaten out the gate and 98% beaten by end first week not even off first straight.
Exactly her demeanor was so off and she comes out rude, condescending and totally disrespectful
@@zzhughesd that last part didn’t make any sense at all…can’t even try to comprehend what you’re trying to say.
@@KMTSports21 They said she was basically beaten from the opening arguments of the prosecution, and I’m frankly inclined to agree. Their opening argument was something even the best would have struggled to go up against. She was beaten before their side ever really started.
She’s like Janice Soprano
She is trying to act confident, but she fails at it miserably. 😳
She looks fresh out of law school. This will be a case study of poor defense in a double homicide.
@@TrueCrimeDoula 2016, I just looked her up.
@@river8760 That's pretty fresh! Do you remember Casey Anthony did the same thing? She went to work everyday for 2 years supposedly at Disney when she never worked there at all? She even took police officers there and barged past the front desk security to lead them to her non existent office. They should be penpals from prison, except that Casey was acquitted!
@@TrueCrimeDoula defense has no defense. No case. No nada. It was a shocker. Just had nothing. It was awful the opening defense. And never improved.
@@TrueCrimeDoula Yeah but the difference with her was she had a GREAT lawyer who flipped everything around and created such mass confusion that there WAS reasonable doubt for the jury…nothing of the sort happened here despite Chandlers hopes.
As someone who works in the legal field and spends a lot of time in courtrooms, I do not understand any of this argument. And her taking swigs from her Starbucks cup is SO unprofessional its sickening.
I could not agree more. When Crystal Vera took her 1st swig from her Starbucks cup, I thought, “Ew.” The 2nd time just about did me in. Unprofessional indeed‼️
@@ashleywright8686 Just because it's in a Starbucks cup doesn't mean it's Starbucks liquid. Lol.
@@jenniehughes6927 Starbucks coffee, or not, taking swigs from a coffee cup during closing arguments is unprofessional.
I can’t even watch all of it without it making my stomach turn from her voice after hearing 18 min of her blabbering
@@ashleywright8686 It was disgusting hearing her gulp like that. 😝
This is the lawyer equivalent of waiting until the last minute to do your school project that's worth half your grade and failing miserably as a result
I realize this case is almost impossible to defend. But this attorney is woefully unprepared and seems inept beyond a reasonable doubt. This is the lamest performance in a courtroom I have ever witnessed.
Yeah I would never hire her or them. I'm not sure if it's an appeal strategy??? But basically she is off putting and hurting her client even though he is obviously guilty and a total pos
She didn't have much to work with though. I bet he lied to her too 99% of the time. I would never have wanted to be stuck with this case. I kind of feel sorry for her. She did the best she could under the circumstances.
anyone want a law degree Wisconsin must be handing them out
It was the same with Binger, lawyers can only work with what they've got, and in both cases they had nothing to work with. At least in this case, it's not the lawyers choice if the case carries on if the client refuses to play ball, so they have to clutch any straw they think they can conjure up.
Edit: and also bear in mind her client is a pathological liar, which must be a nightmare to work with.
She knows he’s guilty and a public defender.
I am certain those jurors have been significantly impacted in their lives by this trial and to stand up and say it isn't realistic they didn't adhere to their duties by avoiding information on it is an absolute insult to their service. Just appalling. I would have no difficultly avoiding information if I were seated on a jury. Media of any sort is a choice and one can choose to not be exposed. It's not difficult. I have done total media blackout multiple times in my life just to get a break from the atrocities in the world
I so agree!! And it would offend me to be accused otherwise by an attorney
@@emilye1055 there was no defense to offer but to stoop to insulting them and their intelligence was just a new low for any defense to go to
Same. This was a terrible closing.
I couldn’t agree more. This defense attorney’s closing argument was horrible, and insulting to the jury. Crystal Vera needs to find another career. Case closed.
@@ashleywright8686 I think we have seen the reasons in action they both are employed as public defenders 😂 I don't think this trial will help that climb from the bottom of the totem pole
I literally can NOT believe this closing argument is even real. I've watched countless trials and this is by far the worst representation I've ever witnessed! Sheesh 😱
Well they didn’t have a huge case like this. She done the best she could with what she had. What do you think she should have gone differently?
She did fine. Much better than the opening. She just had absolutely nothing to work with. There is no doubt whatsoever that Chandler is guilty
She should have done the "Chewbacca defense" in this trial.
Did she just…literally call BS on jurors’ thoughts? By cursing at them??
Yikes. I feel attacked and I’ve given up nothing in my life to sit in that courtroom. I don’t understand how they think this is a good strategy?
Exactly! 🙈
Everything she said was so off putting
Exactly
Exactly
"He didn't need money, yah I know he didn't have a job, but that doesn't mean he needed money!" Lol Is this lady out of her ever loving mind? Worst attorney EVER!
That part is true. He's a lying, spoiled brat.
@@vinnymac7565 Yes he was spoiled...but his dad was pushing him to work and better himself.
She should explain then how he got his money if he wasn’t working.
The gaslighting is off the charts
5:00 What do we have here? Only the most jury-alienating closing argument in American judicial history. (Swallowing sounds do not help. Drinking from your Big Gulp while giving the most important speech of your client's life is at best disgusting).
When Crystal Vera took a gulp of her latté during her closing argument-with audio to boot-AND referring to said audio slurp-I found it repulsive. She’s gross, inept, and needs to hang up her license to practice law. Btw, I loved your post.
28:55 Wait she actually accused the jury of disobeying the judge's orders? She accused them of going online or read media during the trial? How did she get away with that? This is insane. The more I deconstruct this closing argument, the more I want to write the American Bar Association. Why attack the jury? These are people that volunteer their time and even loose wages. I would never never never want to be on a jury in that state.
U should…she’s gunna try to defend more people, if it’s a real issue it should be reported on some level
That would be great! She's just really gross. So unprofessional!
Imagine being the parents of the defense attorney, and you worked your tail off to put her through law school, then you see your hard work in action - worst closing ever.
I can understand these court-appointed defenders drew a short straw with the stack of evidence and the defendant not taking the stand. But gunning for the integrity of the jurors and the prosecutors. Wow....
Yes did not represent the court system especially when she spoke about the juror have lied some times in their life.
This poor defense attorney has no idea how she sounds. But of course when you have no argument you have to grab at straws. The prosecution made their burden. This guy is evil and needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
The facts: nobody but Chandler was home while he murdered and burned their heads.
I missed most of what she said. I couldn’t take it anymore. Her closing argument should be on SNL. Lol
@@mylesastinnette6208 ugh that voice too!
Jury didn’t buy her closing argument
@@mylesastinnette6208 🤣😂🤣
She is not trying to prove that he is innocent, instead to lower the degree of murder. She stated in the beginning that first degree murder is a serious crime. Basically she never said he is innocent.
29:12 “I’m going to be realistic, “ she said.😡
She literally accused the jurors of lying!!!
This woman is beyond inept. It’s impossible to imagine that there aren’t some offended jury members, headed back to decide Chandler’s fate.
Not smart Counselor!
She also told the jurors she knew their minds were made up. Offending jury members is unlikely to help her client.
Do you think they're trying to give him grounds for appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel?
@@tealemon4693 Yes, not that he has a chance.
@@tealemon4693 I was thinking the same thing. Like it was done intentionally to allow him a new trial.
@@tealemon4693 ahhh that’s a good point I hope they do some updates to see can give this woman a high five ✋
Everyone in the defense office drew straws on who would do closing arguments. They included the office cleaning lady.
And what was she wearing? Look like she going directly to Colts game. Rly??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She is so.... unlikeable.
Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
When you have to complain to the jury that the prosecution put a picture of his parents up when his brother testified… you know it’s not a closing argument it’s a key to close the cell door.
This literally sounds like she is making it up as she goes! Chaotic, confusing, rambling and unprofessional. Very odd indeed.
Word salad
She couldn't even put down that disgusting Big Gulp for closing arguments in a court of law. Priorities.
Defense lost me when she said as teens “you lied to your parents.” Geez. Just all is awful in the defense closing
But wait… she implies they knew and just let it slide! Hey, who isn’t okay with their child being delusional?
@@65cj55 Right!? Yet claimed the prosecution had no real evidence. I'm dead. This woman man
The only time I lied to my parents as a kid was when I was concealing a crime lol
@@65cj55 yeah and unfortunately right when they found out they were involved in a horrible accident. I graduated though
She's definitely incompetent
This will be used in educational videos in law school on how not to do a closing argument. The evidence was so overwhelming she’s flogging a dead horse
She’s poking holes in unanswered questions the Prosecution couldn’t answer. That’s all she can do. Her client has zero explanations for her team to conclude any alternative occurred and he’s innocent. So she’s defending him with the only sliver of doubt she can. This can will and could only be defended by a slim margin considering her client has no leg to stand on.
I think Chandler should have pled guilty and thrown himself at the mercy of the court. At least he would have had the chance to tell the truth for once in his life. I think he was terrified of his embarassing lies exposed and in all likelihood would have lost his girlfriend. Not an excuse but at least he would have had the opportunity to explain the unexplainable.
He would have had the chance to apologize to his entire family, Cat and her family and everyone else that ever loved Bart and Krista. I still think he would have gotten a life sentence but at least he could have been left with a very small shread of dignity--maybe the possibility of parole when you admit your actions and are remorseful (?) I dunno. As it is, he will never have the chance for parole.
Realistically, his lawyers must have known that he was full of BS. They should have gotten him to plead guilty. This was never a "who done it". His lawyers had ridiculous arguments but in fairness to them, they had nothing to work with. So much overwhelming forensic evidence on top of all the circumstantial evidence.
I CAN NOT believe she said “bulls**t” in her closing statement. So unprofessional and any other judge would have reprimanded her for it. She’s lucky this judge is so lovely.
She says, "We don't know what happened"...Well, tell us! Ask Chandler, put on some witnesses, give us a competing story! Don't tell us there is another story but fail to give us that version!
He doesn’t know anyone - he has no friends - he won - he’s not homeless
I am an attorney and former law enforcement officer. Hands down one of the worst examples of a closing argument. Yes, I have found myself defending cases that were not so great. However, you have to develop a theory and implement that theory in a way the jury is able to relate. Simply attacking the other side when you are faced with these types of facts and evidence is deplorable. In the famous words of Charles Barkley, this closing argument is “terribleeeeee”.
Talk about clutching at straws!
I would never have imagined an argument this bad would come from someone with a law degree. She starts off her argument with how profound of a liar the defendant is, then later proceeds to use his own words to (attempt too) exonerate him.
She sounds angry / aggressive. You don’t win a jury over like that.
And whiny and immature.
Her friends are trying to brush it off on her ig as if she didn’t just majorly f up hahhaahah
“i’M f_CkiNg GrEaT aT wHaT I dO”
She doesn’t even know about email addresses and kept reciting it wrong. Since when are there two dots and no @ in an email address? And even got the victims’ names wrong 🤦♀️ I’m surprised she found her way to the right building!
She accused the jury of lying when they were asked daily about being exposed to this case outside the court room!! 28:29 Yet she jumped down the Prosecution for saying she is asking them to lie.
Yea, her accusing the jury of lying made me pause the video. WTF?
She’s trying to go the extra mile. There’s nothing here that can help him.
@@Ocrilat I've NEVER heard any attorney ever do that. I mean what was that?
@@DOLsenior She also never said Chandler was innocent. She maintained that the state didn't prove their case...so he may have confessed to her. Even with attorney-client privilege or anything else, she can't lie or suborn perjury. It might have been a factor.
Everyone may have lied,but everyone hasn't killed their parents!She needs to find another job
33 minutes of my life I'll never get back! Where did she get her law degree? 😳 🤔🤭
Look inside your cereal packet.
It’s ok two precious life’s were lost so you will be ok
Walmart School of Law
Lawmart.
@@Eyerusalem_ what? 🤔
as someone who has watched live trials pretty religiously for years, i can 1000% say, with confidence, that this is the worst & most cringeworthy closing argument i’ve ever heard. 😂 this lady is something else.
The best part of her argument was when she burped😂
Well you have to give the defense attorney credit for putting herself out there and humiliating herself in front of the world and showing how unintelligent she is. Wow wee! She embarrassed herself as much as Mr. Halderson should feel embarrassed, but we know he isn't capable of that.
Straight FACTS‼😁👉🏾👉🏾👉🏾
The defense closing was terrible. What does it matter? Is she crazy? His parents went into the house and never came out as whole. A horrible accident? Shot in the back?
and burned and cut up and tossed in the bushes or the river.... yeah, what does THAT matter?
I mean, she HAS to give the closing argument, and as the defense she can't just say "I've seen the same trial as y'all and he dun it". If he's pleading not guilty and she doesn't appear to be doing her best to defend him, then the whole thing is called into question and he can get let off or a retrial because his counsel "isn't doing their best to defend him"
@@ItsFusaaa He is going for a re trial.
I feel brain dead after watching this closing argument…WTF did I even just watch? Absolutely the worst defense I’ve ever seen in a trial, ever. Prove me wrong…if there’s another worse than this…I’d have to see it to believe it. I’d subject myself to more mental torture out of curiosity. LOL
Too funny😁😁😁😄😄✌🏾😍
Ok I thought of a worse one! The "Slenderman made me do it" stabbing case involving two 12 year old girls. But this closing argument is a close second. I am no lawyer but I can think of a better defense to give him just off the top of my head . . .
@@AnnabelleCharrier Honestly, a pair of twelve year olds believing in Slenderman is infinitely more plausible than… well, whatever this is. This is literally ZERO effort at generating any level of doubt. Invisible smoke and transparent mirrors.
Can you defend your client?
“No, thank yoooooou.”
I totally agree with your comment
@@AnnabelleCharrier tbh, I feel like that’s a much better defense.. iirc, at least the one girl, If not both, were put in a psyche ward for it.. delusional beats cold blooded..
I can’t think of a worse defense than this one.. especially when you consider that it was their ENTIRE case! And that it followed ten days of witnesses that built an air tight story of what happened over that week. Like omg!
She is so incompetent the fact that she talked about the prosecutors is pathetic! Prosecutors had done a great job proving their case bashing them because she does not have any thing to say is insane.
But they had more tables!
@@amazingsupergirl7125 😂😂...right..I'm just at the beginning of her rant and I can't stand it.. a load of crap so far...!!
Agreed
*Proving*
@@amazingsupergirl7125 yes!! Lol
Even accidentally slipping up the victim’s name is not a good move.
Omg... this closing argument was hilarious! How could she think that by insulting the jury was a good statement.
She proved nothing, insulted the jury, got the victims name wrong at one point... but in her facial expressions at the end, she was thinking she nailed it!
I think even Chandler was shocked to hear what she was saying 😂
This is the worse defense lawyer I've ever seen. I realize there really is no defense. Too much evidence and proof that he did this. But her speech makes her sound idiotic and unprofessional. She didn't even make sense and sounded so childish logically. She had absolutely no defense.
I wonder if that defense attorney got fired after this case. 🤦♀️
In summary, “My client is a total liar, therefore there’s no possible way he could have murdered his parents. Also, prosecution has a bigger table and we believe this is grounds for mistrial.”
Ugh. She's so smarmy and aggressive. And imagine accusing the jury of Google searching the case during breaks! 😲
Looks like she got lost and ended up in a courtroom instead of McDonald’s
Ouch
This defense attorney looks ridiculous, the prosecution did their job well!! She's a joke! She just provided another motive too..million dollar policy...lol
I thought I must have missed it, I haven't watched every moment. Did she seriously introduce that motive to the jury in her closing??
Maybe she thought that her bewbs would distract the jury.
Using the term laughable in a homicide case is a bad look. In addition she called Bart Brett. Awful
I almost had to go back and re watch to see who the actual eff Brett could possibly be...
Her performance and demeanor throughout smacked of watching "karen in the wild" videos on utube.. jeez.
Atrocious closing argument. Gotta feel for anyone represented by her. Totally outclassed by the state.
Hahahaha, “atrocious”!!!!! So appropriate!!!!!! Well said!!!!!! She’s a clown
Yeah I feel really bad for Chandler.
Sounds like a teacher unprepared for class and just winging it.
ChazzleDazzle will def get an appeal over ineffective counsel, I've watched years of trials and never have I seen a defense so awful.
I'm also scared that is ain't a slam dunk case and we're going to see Mr. Halderson back in court and some point.
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ITS RIDICULOUS!!! The taxpayers r the ones who lose! They paying for everyone's time AND he will get another trial. It's a str8 farce an embarrassment that this counts as a trial in the US in 2022. Good job Mr. Prosecutor making a name for yourself at high cost to taxpayers?
That’s one that absolutely deserves the death penalty
The insurance policy was actually sitting on that table in the Halderson’s house
He’ll be back and now a better defense has the prosecutions entire case.
"They don't get the benefit of the doubt that I get." Yeah but they sure had a lot of evidence, and a very convincing story. Unlike the defence.
This defense attorney made herself look so unprofessional. This was an open and shut case. The defense had nothing because everyone knew he was guilty. They didn't have one witness to call. So she has to bring up a bunch of nonsense in order to even have a closing statement.
And how many times did they NOT cross-examine? And when they did cross-examine, their questions to the witnesses were garbage. These defence attorneys made my ears bleed
Sarah Boone's was the most open and shut case I've ever seen. But this one is a close second.
The defense is probably the worst defense i’ve ever seen. They really dont stand a chance.
Hopefully he won't file an appeal over it.
I hope the Defense lawyers watch their closing arguments after this is all over!
I think she’s a failed Weight Watchers experiment
I stuck this out till 8:21 when she earnestly said...'they could've gone to the cabin...' I'll bet she's secretly wishing there was a great big hole into which she could disappear!
I find her quite patronising actually. Not a good look for a defence attorney.
I think the defense might be drinking vodka from that sippy cup.
I just watched the entire trial. I do NOT nor have I ever liked this defense attorney. She, with her rolling eyes, playing with her phone, typing away on her laptop, playing with her hair ext... the entire trial! And then she had the nerve to get up there screaming at the jury and calling out the prosecution? She even insulted the parents saying how they knew their son was lying because they were collage educated? Booooo she is awful, yuck!
Quite frankly, Crystal Vera needs to get of law altogether. She is not cut out to represent anyone, let alone defendants. Neither is that other woman-Raymond. Btw, I loved your post, and agree with every word.
She's awful!!!!!! Shows her character that she thinks everyone are just liars...everyone..
I mean c'mon, we all lied to our parents as teenagers, right??!!
Ummm, not about killing them...
Everyone is a liar. Who on earth has never lied? That should not have been offensive but it’s just not relevant to the case
I can't believe I missed this live. I've been watching for days, only to miss the best parts.
The best part will be when the jury hands down eight guilty verdicts!
Me too! 😔 I've been watching everyday and missed today
Same.. But at least we can watch it now. Cannot believe this woman. Ik she has nothing to work with, but calling the jury liars and cursing at them is not a great idea..
Whatever Rewind. You sound ridiculous.
Me too. I was behind the ball when I found this case....
I wouldn't hire her to help with a parking ticket. Good Lord she's an unhappy & awful person.
Right? I have no involvement in this case at all, but I feel like I need to apologize to her lol. I felt like I was getting a lecture by one of my parents or something. I know the defense really had nothing they could use to defend Chaz, but geez.
I can tell she is unhappy as well. It’s very obvious
When she said it's almost laughable, 2 humans are dead. There is nothing to laugh about. Her closing argument was worse than the opening statement.
I got second hand embarrassment from this. SMH.
I can’t even look at the video. It’s too hard to watch. It hurts.
Please, jury, be as heartless as I am. Came across as flippant at best. No thanking the jury for having to experience this monster's evil deeds. Criticizing prosec for putting a picture of the dead parents up in order to tug at their heartstrings, showed no regard, no respect, no humanity... Just sad!
Complaining about how thorough the prosecution was is a ludicrous strategy
FACTS‼😁😁😁To funny
Wow this woman infers that the jury ignored the instruction of the court to Google or read RUclips comments in violation of their oaths ? Way to influence people ! See how well that worked for you .Not everyone takes truth or lies as lightly as you and your client do .
"What does it matter?" 🙄 This woman had the nerve to downplay her client's many lies, sarcastically dispute the case, and talk cash ish with a straight face. Sis, weren't you the one singing "No, thank youuuuu" when it came time to question the witnesses? Chile, I guess. 🤔
Dead😂😂😂
In fairness, I'm pretty sure the "no thank you" canary was attorney Dorl 🤣
Ugh it’s so frustrating to hear this woman go on and on with her BS. She even called the victim the wrong name. What is she arguing??? What is the defense??? There’s nothing. She just taking a lot but saying nothing at all.
"If you think repeating _reasonable doubt_ over and over again is a cop-out, then your issue is with the US constitution."
Question: How has insulting the jury as unpatriotic worked out for you in the past?
[Edit: Also... how do you use the lack of precision in expert testimony against the state if you never questioned the witness? You could've really drilled into every detail you wished, but you didn't. How is that on the state?!?]
They didn’t ask to cross examine *anything.* after watching the Johnny depp case, and now this, I mean… I know those lawyers are top dollars BUT… this is just disgusting.
Exactly! She had hundreds of chances to expose the witnesses for the state and chose to say "No thank you" and do nothing.
Someone obviously reads the comments here!! She literally mentions the "comment section on RUclips'' during the last part of her closing statements (or whatever you wanna call it lol.) All I can say is do better at your job lady. Don't curse at the jury or call them liars for starters.
Cursing is out, but no human Alive can say they have never lied
@@yngclothing Do you not understand the difference between "every human has told at least one lie" and "I don't believe you upheld your responsibilities as jurors"?
@@mallninja9805 when did she say I don’t believe you’ve held up your responsibility as jurors?
This gave me horror flashbacks of showing up to class for a project presentation without having anything done.
This is awful! I pray and hope this closing argument is used during class to show future Defense Lawyers what NOT to do or say during a closing
argument. This is almost laughable if the case in question wasn't so gruesome. YIKES 🙄🤭
Did she say “kids lie to their parents all the time?” Did she imply his parents knew all his lies and just played along? I’ve been watching this for days however, She is totally insulting the victims, the jury, the prosecutors, etcetera. How about not telling people to use their common sense. She is so condescending and the little smack of her tongue takes her to another annoying level. This is a great example of “grasping at straws”.
I know the verdict is already out and I’m getting closer to watching. I have a strong feeling he’s not at home eating dinner.
The defense closing strengthened the prosecutors' case 🤣🤣🤣
Every question they asked during the whole trial strengthened the prosecutors case 😂
Oh my god. This poor woman. So many faux pas. I hope she changes careers. I'm sure her parents are proud of her trying to be a lawyer but it's really not her thing.
I know she had nothing to work with, regarding a defense, but this closing argument will be shown as a , "what not to do in a closing argument". 😑
And what was with sitting down the whole time and that god awful 'no thank you' as if she was being asked if she wanted fries with that! Don't we usually hear 'no your Honor'? And the whole jury thing about lying!? 🤦♀️
The slurping of the coffee threw me. So unprofessional!
Don’t kill anyone. You might get a horrible defense attorney like this lady.
The defense should’ve just said
“We got nothing 🤷🏾♀️”
Hahahahah so true
"No, thank you" is what they should said because they said that about 100x during the trial.
@@CatalinaFOIA LMAOFFFFF !! Yes they sure did!!! 🤣🤣🤣
How is the defense attorney drinking her coffee while she’s giving closing arguments?? Is this acceptable
"The best part of waking up is Folger's in your cup." 🎶 Something Chandler will never experience!
I've never seen it before, ever.
@@wintercomesearly neither have I
Chandler's attorney reminds me of "Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started A Conversation With" character on SNL.
(Cecily Strong)
How unlikable is that defence lawyer .
Being court appointed defense must suck for these folks. But their effort is just beyond pathetic. Weak opening, almost no cross exam, weak closing where she literally insult people for being liar. It is like they don't even want to pretend to try.....sigh
So, I'm guessing this will be guilty verdict in record time and the appeal will just be 'ineffective counsel'.
This is not anywhere near ineffective counsel. Cross examining every witness isn't going to help his case. Their job is to show the prosecution didn't do their job, they didn't prove he murdered them _beyond_ a reasonable doubt. The only path through this mess is to get him acquitted on the first degree murder. No way are they going to get an acquittal on the lesser charges. Their goal is get him acquitted of first degree homicide. Get that done, and he's facing a lot less jail time. That is the _best_ _case_ scenario for the defense team.
This is an excellent defense given the situation.
And then gets a petulant about being called a liar during the rebuttal.
What a train wreck of a closing...
Wow, can’t believe it took me a over a week to view this. Kind of wish it was longer than that. This lawyer is absolutely dreadful. She’s not creating reasonable doubt. She basically a witness for the prosecution the way she’s rehashing everything and eliminating any doubt.
Don't feel bad. It took me longer. Hence...smile
what in the world does being college educated have to do with believing their child’s lies?
If she had done a better job she wouldn’t need to cuss for shock value in her “closing argument “
That was a shocking breach of professionalism in the courttoom.
I feel like I'm watching a bad improv sketch. Everything about this attorney is offensive, particularly her ineptitude and apparent lack of preparation. One way those two defense attorneys have helped Chazzle Dazzle is that they've paved the way for his "ineffective assistance of counsel" appeal.
I felt like I just listen to a 3rd Grader
She actually had post-it notes on the podium during her closing.
Maybe his lawers should have convinced the jury that the birds, insects and magotts found on his parents remains killed them beyond a reasonable doubt. That could have been more convincing . 🤦🏻♀️👾🤯
Hoo boy. This was rough.
Defense: Why would Chandler do this crime? The prosecution never proved Chandler's motive!
Also Defense: The prosecution doesn't have to prove motive!
Exactly.... most of her closing was about motive, which isn't necessary to prove...I sat here thinking, ok where is your actual defense? That's what they were left with though, because it is overwhelmingly obvious beyond a reasonable doubt what occured
Not motive, intent. That's a different standard. That's a necessary element of first degree. The defense goal is to get him acquitted of at least one or both first degree homicide charges. That's the best anyone could do in this case. They do that by pointing out there's no intention. Like she says they jury might not like it, but that's the law. If the prosecution can't prove intent, the jury should not convict on first degree intentional homicide. It's literally her last statement to the jury. Get those acquittals, and he's facing a lot less prison time.
This is absolutely the only strategy available to the defense team.
@@pwit4186 Agreed. It's like they really think that 'reasonable doubt' means 'zero doubt'. Maybe the defense could have set up reasonable doubt (I doubt it, but maybe) if they did it either during cross examination or during their case. Maybe if they demonstrated a reasonable scenario where some other credible person stole his phone (as an example) and put the frame on him. Or some evidence or scenario where Chandler didn't do this. But they didn't. They didn't lay the groundwork. Suggesting the parent might have accidentally shot themselves in the back and they spontaneously became dismembered and scattered across Wisconsin is bizarre.
The fact that the parent's home was basically under video surveillance 24/7, and that Bart and Krista enter the home but never leave it is pretty compelling to me. How does the defense explain it? They don't even try.
@@AndyCutright Agree. Intent not proven by the state. Def also shoulda A) explained the different types of evidentiary matter and here everything is Circumstantial, a lower lesser type of evidence.
B) They also sh/could a shown others ways this MIGHTA gone down. Maybe Bart hit him or gf & started a fight. GF was all up in the house & saw nothing. Plus why Snapchat w gf? And state did have matchg ballistics.
Just saying it all coulda happened a diff way.
@@Ocrilat That's y this trial is a farce, taxpayer $$$ wasted. He can get a whole new trial if he wants.
Wow, defense calling us all liars is not a good defense! And no I don't lie, but clearly she sees nothing wrong with it! She is extremely arrogant to say what we think!
Are you one of the twelve jurors or something? What do you mean “us” and “we”?
Yes I thought that was a terrible strategy on her part, being accusatory towards the jury doesn't always sit well them.
Why are you saying "we" like your a juror. 🙄
Agreeed. JUROR IN THE HIZZOUSE!!!
Were you on the jury? Curious
Wow. Jury barely inhaled. Guilty on all 8 counts! Bravo 👏. Sentencing in March.
This is the perfect closing argument for this case. Makes about as much sense as the crime.