Not gonna lie seeing the Zeniths' faces change from laughs to surprise then terror when their shields were broken and the machines started to kill them was really satisfying.
I never saw Sylens as a villain. He cares about the world and to some extent Aloy but his narcissistic and egotistical personality leads him to doing bad things in pursuit of knowledge
@@louissykes2406 well yeah he isn't necessarily the main baddie but he certainly ain't a good guy. Glad tho to see him doing more of the right things in this game. Am not sure how I feel about these meta humans tho that can fly & crap. Seems like a bit much to me. Could've done w a better plot device if ya ask me.
@@skins4thewin he’s a morally grey character. He’ll help save the world but he doesn’t care how many lives are sacrificed And I don’t mind the far zeniths. They were somewhat set up in the last game and their shields just look to be more advanced versions of the shield weaver armour’s tech in zero dawn The flying is dumb though and it would’ve been better if they were descendants
@@louissykes2406 Yeah I mean I don't mind them either. I do remember the talk about the escape shuttle, so their existence & involvement in the plot is perfectly fine. It's how they were presented that was the problem. Their look is just awful. They should have at least been wearing some sort of high tech looking battle armor to make the shields make sense, something baddass looking like some sort of military combat armor. Not some wigged up nobleman outfit. It looked so damn wack. & yea the flying was dumb, simply cus it just didn't make much sense based on their look. If anything they could have just made the suits have some sort of propulsion system. That would have been a FAR better choice & would have made the whole thing work perfectly fine. It really wouldn't have been that hard to pull off & would look far less dumb. Its honestly the first bit in this series that I felt was really kinda wack & out of place. I truly don't get why they went in that direction with their look. It took a series that had been relatively serious thus far & made it look downright silly. Am sure they could have designed some truly sinister looking high tech armor for them instead & ppl would have loved it! Would love to see some fan mods for the PC version where they fix this.
@@skins4thewin yeah I completely agree. Still looking forward to what they do next and though the zenith are confusing I think the story as a whole was pretty good Def an. 8.5-9/10 game
She developed better than I thought in this game. She went from always doing things on her own, never wanting help, to accepting help and opening herself up to people. She learned to open herself up and that's character development at its finest.
@@crazybabuskaman3923 I agree. She didn’t exactly cozy up to people the first time she met them last game. She was still very green when it came to friendships and affection. Now that these people have fought for earth along side her and she’s lost some of them she’s learned to value them a lot more and appreciate them being by her side.
Zenith underestimated sylens. His potential is insane. If he was in the old ones world, he'd be more dangerous and intelligent than Ted faro in his pursuit of knowledge. Love how they made him even smarter in this game
Ted Faro was in the pursuit of fame and glory. Sylens was in the pursuit of knowledge. Beside, Ted Faro wasn't even very tech savvy. He was just a very successful business man.
I know i'm at least 4-5 years too early, but I can't wait for Chapter 3 to venture onto the Odissey and discover all the Zenith's secrets. This story took a sharp turn to Sci-Fi that I absolutely adore.
So is this confirmed ? Or just a speculation?? Lol 😂 Cause I’m suspecting the same thing but idk… I enjoyed HZD and forbidden west… hopefully they make another one !
@@sergionavarro27 I believe Guerrilla always envisaged the Horizon story as a trilogy (besides which, Sony has been putting Aloy front and centre of their promo videos lately so they clearly know she’s worth big $$$).
@@sergionavarro27 I mean the game ends setting up for a trilogy. Another threat coming to earth. The question now is how do you destroy something that can destroy a planet? It definitely will be a few years at least until we get a threequel. Fuck, I’ll be 30 by then
@@kibblesnbits3174 I think the Earth’s lower level of technology might actually work in its favour - there are fewer manufacturing facilities for Nemesis to take over and use to its advantage.
Nemesis wants Aloy as his girlfriend xD I swear if this is like the book Demon Seed, the Mofo will say he will mate with Alopy yo make something better than the human race
yeha i love sylens too. evne though he is on the same side, his methods are always different. his relationship with Aloy is so fun to see. Even though i would have loved to see Sylens go on that shuttle, im glad he stayed. I hope he is in the next game more. Even though he was in this one so little, he has his own on going story and was even knew more than Aloy because he had Hades.
Alloy's growth is one of the best in gaming. She started as an outcast chasing after Elizabeth's dream, wanting to be like her, but became someone better. Someone who cares about life but also takes part of it. Being open to people unlike Elizabeth who always keep people at arms length.
19:18 - I strongly suspect that Sylens had either a brother or a sister that he lost and he's getting hit right in the feels here, making him decide to stay.
Nah, I think he just realized life on his own would be boring, especially without Aloy to argue with. He can still run off on the Odyssey whenever he wants.
The pessimist in me thinks at that moment Sylens realized something yet unrevealed, and stayed merely for his own benefit. Sylens always has an angle, after all.
Sylens's blindspot is that he doesn't have true allies and friends. He's clearly lost patience trying to teach the "primitives" as he calls them, and instead just manipulates them to his own ends. And to be fair, it was also Aloy's blindspot for the first half in the game. A big part of the story is that she finally understands that her friends are not just well intentioned but largely useless liabilities, but essential to success if given a proper chance. And they don't just provide cold advancement to a goal, but maybe also the warmth and comfort of family that she never realized that she needed and never felt with the Nora. For Sylens, there may have been a time where he loved and was loved. And at some point he stopped caring about that a long time ago, and probably found it easier to manipulate, trick, and ultimately discard people to do what he feels needs to be done instead of having to try to constantly babysit them and attempt to resolve their ignorance of the reality of their world. I like to think that by the end of the game, he begrudgingly comes to see that Aloy's way of building alliances and friendships to advance her agenda was perhaps a better way to go than his way of solitude. He admits as much, as far as his pride/ego will let him, when he tells Aloy that her plan gave the same end results as his plan. But that final bit where he sees the family that Aloy has chosen embrace her with their warmth, maybe her plan also created something more. Maybe something Sylens felt a very long time ago and has not felt since. Maybe there was something more to Aloy's way to accomplishing their mission, and maybe this planet full of primitives was nonetheless worth trying to save instead of abandon. Anyways, that's my take on it. I don't think Sylens is evil. He's not to be trusted, he's not good, he's certainly not warm....but he's no Ted Faro.
I know, right. This is the way to create a game franchise, with character stories that develop and give you reason to replay the whole thing from the first game.
@@milesdufine Indeed. I don’t think I’ve been actively moved by a game’s story like I was with this one - I mean Aloy’s story in Zero Dawn was emotional, but this was on another level. I genuinely shed a tear during Beta’s breakdown and her reconciliation with Aloy.
@@stephenking5852 thanks for your brief explanation of the physical properties of gold but I think you miss the point… Regardless, I’m pretty sure those “golden” plates aren’t made out of actual “gold” but a metal of similar color, Why would someone knowingly add metal plates to cover an outer layer of a highly advanced combat machine? to protect the sensitive parts of that machine no less.
One of the biggest things I hated about this game was the constant annoying messages. "Hit it with acid arrows". I rage quit at least once because I was tired of hearing that.
I stopped liking her the moment she called Beta "an inferior copy." Right then, I realized (or at least formed an opinion) that Tilda wasn't connecting with Beta out of kindness, but rather to "raise" Beta into Tilda's own, personal Elisabet Sobek to replace the one she lost. Tilda went from forgery-detector to the ultimate forger.
She gave off a crazy stalker vib which I thought was pretty impressive considering the rest of the writing. She stalked Elisbet in the past and now wants her clones in the present.
I hated Tilda for what happened in the end but I still have a bit of hunch that she isnt finished / killed yet and may show up on next sequel. ... after final battle cutscene Aloy ddnt checked the pod where her remains was. Then, after getting into the base after finishing the story, I went back into the Zeniths base to check on Tilda’s pod but the game does not allow me to go back. Earlier the game when Tilda was introduced in the story by Beta, I also had this hunch that She - “Tilda” and Elisabeth may have had a history, and I was correct. Now I am hoping that my guts is also right this time.
Nah she had weird vibes from the beginning and then it's revealed that she's basically a groomer chasing after a millennia old romance. I liked her character too but she was as fucked up as anyone else aboard the Odyssey.
I feel like it would've been cooler if Aloy was able to call a Sunwing to her aid to get to the top, but would get shot down halfway by Erik, which would result in the boss fight
I tried to explore it too not knowing what it was. But I thought it would be cool if they started to shoot you if you lingered or something like that, or maybe just straight up kill you and the game would restart from save idk
@@erinocelotl3578 I kinda spoiled the ending a little bit for me when I went out exploring in the coast. I noticed the space ship. Honestly I was expecting Aloy and some of the crew to leave earth, atleast for a while. I’m glad they decided to stay. Although I’m fairly certain the next game will have missions in space.
@@angelgjr1999 It's not implausible some DLC could be on the Odyssey, but I can't imagine what you'd do there beyond fleshing out the lore. There's nothing there except maybe Specter drones. I'm reasonably confident the DLC will be called Burning Shores and take place south of the Hoover dam. Aside from that, I don't think it'll greatly involve HEPHAESTUS and will probably have nothing to do with NEMESIS. I think those will largely be set aside for the third game. Best guess is maybe we'll find Elysium and maybe some Old World Clawback-era tech as a stand-in while until they figure out a way to recontain HEPHAESTUS
@@angelgjr1999 Space in the third game still seems unlikely, except maybe for the final quest or two, perhaps to kill whatever machine is housing NEMESIS main consciousness. GAIA has no space machines and I doubt there's any intact space shuttles aside from Zenith, which nobody currently knows how to operate or maintain.
Just finished the story about 90 hours into the game. This sequel went far beyond my expectations with pretty much every aspect to the game. The map size was ridiculous, at least twice as large. One of the best things Guerrilla games added was swimming underwater. This just added a whole new layer to gameplay, quests and exploration. And of course, adding a flying mount was much needed. Story wise, there were some really huge twists, ESPECIALLY with Ted Faro in San Francisco. With all that said, one thing that did not sit right with me was Tilda as a character. I feel like her death was extremely abrupt, considering how much the game was building her up to be an important character. I feel that she should have survived and I didn't necessarily like that she turned into the final boss at the end. I find that it was just lost potential. I was really hoping she was going to working alongside Aloy for future games
Tilda was very suspicious since the moment Aloy met her, i wasnt suprised at all. Zeniths became corrupted to the core becaus of living for an eternity
@@PanPrezeso That's true, I agree that Tilda was shown to be a very suspicious character and there's no surprise Aloy had to fight her. I guess I am just sad she died so soon. She seemed important based on her personal connection with Elizabet Sobeck
The Old Ones’ time was futuristic enough to achieve space travel in the form of the Odyssey. If it was truly Star Trek, we would’ve been able to go to the Sirius colony.
If you play the game this doesn’t appear out of nowhere. The futuristic guys come and you meet them you dont randomly face a futuristic creature for the first time
I highly doubt it. The recapture of hephaestus will be reserved in the third game because; 1. We already had a DLC with that particular AI when we visited the Banuk in Frozen Wilds 2. There's a reason why they steered the plot to not include Hephaestus; so we have to fetch him in the next game, I'm willing to bet he's going to be holed up near the territory of The Quen, so we have another tribe with their ideologies and possible characters with god complexes (Ceo) to deal with.
@@ArbiterofMankind you’re right! Didn’t event think of that. Now that I think of it, I’m not sure if we could get DLC. I’m not even sure what it would be about.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !! I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
I played Horizon and I remember almost never using fast travel.. Sometimes I'd ride for 1 hour just to get to where I wanted.. Such a beautiful game to spend time with!
After almost 90 hours of playing the game, I finally beat the main story. I enjoyed every moment. All the roller coasters of emotions and such. I would love for Guerilla to announce future DLC content in the future. As low as the Quen Tribe is, I would like to see more of them. Maybe even have Quen armor sets and face paints. Maybe even the return of the Banuk. I loved that Tribe alot. Now, a few of my theories for the next Horizon game. One is that, we are gonna have to recapture HEPHAESTUS in a brand new region. What will that region be? Who knows. Maybe up north? And it will more then likely to be even harder to capture, probably planning up multiple contingency plans to evade being absorbed by GAIA. Second and final theory is that, we might have to have a brand new HADES subordinate to restore GAIA back up to 100% to help increase their chances of victory against Nemesis. Or make a brand new subordinate to replace HADES as a whole. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Hadn't considered a new subfunction. Could work, give GAIA more heuristic density to absorb HEPHAESTUS. I don't think it'd be HADES. NEMESIS can target HADES with the signal, so restoring him as a subfunction is a bad idea until NEMESIS is killed. Next game probably will be north, unless they go east of the original game to Texas or something
@@MageOtter27 I did like half of them. Spent most of my time grind for Apex hearts to max out legendary gear. Though I find the weapons a little underwhelming compared to the last game. A lot of the endgame weapons have ammo types I'm less inclined toward, and I didn't quite figure out the spike thrower or shredder gauntlet
The only disappointing part is far zenith being evil, i was genuinely hoping they would come back to earth with some Apollo archive, it also feels so empty without music
From 16:08 all the way to 20:29 you can hear heavy breathing in the background if you listen closely at max volume, lol. Turning off the background music made this boss battle feel very empty, but I love the creature/futuristic designs in this sequel.
@@JoIjloL lol breathing is a bug? Why would a bug ever cause something like that? It was probably the players mic being on or something. Sounded like they were hyperventilating lol. I mean why was there no music in the 1st place? Is there not supposed to be music during the final battle & ending?
@@skins4thewin The game has minor bugs and still needs updates. I've seen videos where bosses freeze in position, making them easy to kill, lol. The player doesn't have his mic on, we would've heard him speak or breathe throughout the entire video not just the timecode I highlighted. Also, the breathing are in repeated loops and they come from Aloy's various soundbanks. I have Horizon Forbidden West and you can turn off the background music if you want to for the entire game, just like most games.
@@JoIjloL Ohh I see, I didn't know that about the breathing. Yeah that's a pretty odd bug. Am sure a lot of it will be fixed tho. Also can't imagine why this person would want to turn the music off, but whatever floats the boat I guess.
@@rons_seb Could be, or could just be this is on the easiest possible difficulty and on harder difficulties those three free shots wouldn't make that drastic of a difference.
@@jondoe7036 its easy difficulty. I faced him on very hard and there was literally no point in shooting his head, i ended up spamming him with a bolt blaster
Finally finished the story. And it was so good. Did all the side quests too cause it was so exciting to explore. Cant wait for the next game! Nemesis sounds like the god of destruction!
The side quest was addicting. But also served a purpose to help the character improve, which I liked because oftentimes they usually in games are a lot of work with little to no reward to them. Often I played the side missions here, mute while youtube subscriptions were playing in the background.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !! I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
So at the end, Gaia has been restored with only two missing subordinate functions. Hades is one obviously, since it was destroyed and no copies exist anywhere else. And the other is... Hephaestus? I guess he got away again once they used him to repel the Zenith's army. Makes sense I guess, otherwise there would be no rogue robots to fight in the next game. I wonder if they'll actually use Apollo to educate the population now, assuming the tribes even want the knowledge.
There would also be no legit reason to fight them in the ‘post game’ either, good save on their part giving us the cool robot army against the zeniths while also giving a logical reason you can still fight then after the ending and in the next game
Chief Hekarro would. His whole reason with making peace with the Carja was for a chance to have his tribe learn the written word. It'd probably make it so much easier by avoiding the Carja hate still simmering in his tribe if they got it straight from Apollo. He's got an in on that with Kotallo.
I have a feeling we’re gonna need to get Hades back in the next (and I’m assuming final) installment of Horizon to fight Nemesis. That would be interesting.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !! I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
I love this game. Combat is awesome, diving, flying. It's great, But the ending could've been better. But it's funny that Tilda van der Meer is actually Dutch. Well makes sense when the game actually comes from the Netherlands. But the game still got some bugs. I fell trough the floor in the base today. But it's still a great game.
I do wish the Zeniths were more fleshed out and I didn't like the whole immortal floating shield thing, I know they're advanced but it was a bit too much. Nemesis came out of nowhere but obviously they had to set up a villain for the next game. Hopefully there is DLC that explains Far Zenith more. overall I really enjoyed the story and think it's a great game.
I'm fine with everything except yeah, I do wish they had been fleshed out more or we got to interact more with them. Although I understand why that wouldn't really work so I don't blame them, just a nice thought
Some of Gaia's machines such as the Behemoth and the armadillo thing utilize gravity manipulation. And energy shielding already exists in the lore. A civilization with an additional thousand years of development could massively improve the technology. Hell in the real world, we've only had the internet for about thirty or forty years and it's come a long way in a very short time
I feel like the DLC (if we get one) will be on par with Frozen Wilds I think we'll either go back to a location from the previous game, maybe to shut down old cauldrons spewing out new machines threatening the carja and nora... Which would make sense since HEPH is more advanced thanks to his time with the Zeniths OR Maybe visit the Quen. Which would be nice but I can see them saving that for the sequel if not. Creating an entire clan, culture, land etc. is clearly a lot of effort... Especially when they could just bring back a section of the old map and update it. (I hope it's the former I miss Avad and I think Aloy really needs to tell Sona she's now childless 😭) but I kinda hope they'll extend the map past where hoover dam is. I'd love to explore the other side. It kinda sucks that a few landmarks are extremely out of the way and easy to miss.
@@AgentDigits Now that you mention it, it's definitely gonna be the Hoover dam. I thought it was odd for them to put it in when you can't do much in the area. And there's a note from that awkward Oseram guy from the Frozen Wilds dam north of there by the tunnel. He said he was heading south to the Burning Shore. I couldn't find him anywhere, and the dam was south of that location. Burning Shore could also make sense as a DLC as the first was Frozen Wilds
Ted Faro: Richest man on earth. Chiefly responsible for creating an entirely unstoppable army of murder robots that ended all life on earth. Far Zenith: A colony of the richest people on earth. Responsible for creating a seemingly unstoppable AI who destroyed their colony and aims to end all life on earth. So, in the Horizon saga, it seems that if you're ultra rich, you're probably gonna create something capable of bringing about an extinction level apocalypse. Whoopsie!
The game is a middle finger to the rich elites. A minor correction though, Nemesis didn't really care about Earth one way or another. Unleashing Hades was just its way to deny Zenith their prize.
See, there is an issue with Sylens' plan for Aloy. without HADES, that's not viable. they'd only have one chance, and it took GAIA several attempts to get this one right
The most disappointing thing was that they were hypin up the zeniths so much but you only fought like one. Tilda like barely counts with that specter prime or whatever. I was hoping you’d be able to fight your way through more zeniths
@@TheZachary86 True, the zeniths that were encountered weren't really warriors; Erik was an exception. Even then, Erik allowed his personal pride and ego to blind his (ostensibly non-existent) reasoning. He underestimated not only Aloy, but the GAIA-created Terrans as a whole. The zeniths were also, by and large, physiologically "soft" as a people due to their reliance on highly-developed technology; they weren't battle-hardened warrior zealots like the inhabitants of Earth.
This. They were a super-let down. 20 seconds and 90% of them are dead. Since they were leaving anyway, there was no real reason to fight them in the first place. The end destroyed the whole motivation for the rest of the game.
@@thehiddenone00 Sure but, for them to write this game so, that the whole build up to fight the bad guys ends up being pointless is simply poor writing. I'm not saying Aloy did anything wrong trying to fight, I'm saying the people who made the game, screwed this up. All this build-up only to be let down. The whole game is filled with let-downs like this. I was looking forward to "Thebes" for example expecting to see an amazing billionaire retreat and what we got was another boring area.
True, I understand that they are not warriors, but they could have said that after many years of immortality they decided to learn how to fight, still good final battle
boy, this game really went to a crazy level of sci-fi... don't really like that tbh Preferred the more grounded sci-fi of the last game with it being more about a post-apocalypse world rebuilding itself, but having to deal with the past humans tech. This is now just generic "evil space humans" wanting to end the world, just meh. Also not a fan of sequel bait cliffhanger endings like this, the first game had a better ending even if it was also setting up the next game.
@@kotabear6556 ever heard Svalbard Global Seed Vault? This is specifically made if shit goes down bad and grow everything back. Better this than this space human bullshit
Well this seems lowkey disappointing; expecting we'd finally get to face off against that fricking titanic doomsday metal fortress, that was actively teased at the end of the first game, I can't help but find this over-sized action-figure looking mofo to be a tad underwhelming. Oh well, atleast it's something of an unique encounter and not just a buffed up version of a mech you'd fought multiple times throughout the campaign already, like in the last game.
@@violetgreer2443 You show me an end-credit scene of a morally dubious character standing ominously in front of a giant fricking robot, while holding a genocidal AI-device, that's been established to be able to power up and control these kinda robots, I'm not gonna go "oh he must be planning to use that giant death mech as a glorified hazard container for that portable Skynet radiator". And I am hard-pressed to find that sort of subversion of expectations as anything but disappointing.
@@timeyinsholaye9169 Almost certainly not, but not sure how likely us coming back to that Metal Devil and other Hades controlled mechs is at this point, when the main plot of this game seems to have veered away from all that.
I really don't like this ending I'm pretty disappoint, the first game had a such emotional ending: at the end of the adventure aloy found her mother, was like a ending of a part aloy's life; the time she was try to found who really is it's over, it's like a closure, the ending of forbidden west is just soulles , it's much more a x-men movie mixed with star treek .
Horizon Zero Dawn's ending is symbolic. They didn't need to make a second game from it. This game imo. It's ending isn't as drastic because I think it's meant to show that Aloys journey, her war hasn't ended. There's more to do. We get just as much closure on this as she does and still can do nothing besides prepare for the next threat while feeling empty.
Gonna be honest, i also liked the ending in the 1st game more, amd especcially the final boss of the first game. I was dissapointed to not see a horus came to life
@@monsimix6839 I'd say it more familiar than it is grounded. It's very similar to The Matrix, but rather than humanity losing and hiding underground, they lose and get sent back to the stone age. But the "AI Hivemind" fufills almost exactly the same role: a man-made threat that sees humans as biofuel. And I think because of it being so similar to The Matrix, people ended up being more forgiving.
I would've liked the story if it was just Aloy recovering GAIA and finding all the functions/cure the plague/biosphere but then as soon as I saw "advanced space humans" I was massively disappointed
When tilda tried to force Aloy to come with her I jokingly thought to myself “well that crazy stalker behaviour may be apart of why Elizabeth broke up with you.”
2017 - Horizon is touted as an industry changer. It turns out lukewarm and gets consumed by Zelda. 2022 - Horizon is touted as an industry changer. It turns out lukewarm and gets consumed by Elden Ring. And then Zelda again. History is cyclical. See you in 2027 when Horizon: Tagline Ominous gets overshadowed by the new Mavis Beacon game.
To be fair, one huuge advantage the AI on Sirius had was access to ALL systems. You might argue that high-tech environments make it easier for Nemesis to erradicate an entire civilization. Definitely going to be interesting to see though how/if they pull it off. Expectations on this are probably like expectations on the lore of the first one (robot dinos in a tribal world): Its either genius or the exact opposite.
@@ruka_2178 Earth is full of tech and ROBOTS for it to take control. Don't we have all over the Earth something like a beehive of killer robots just waiting for activation? Not only that its coming to Earth, assuming in a spaceship with a lot of goodies. I mean, with how advanced they are, they don't even need to set foot on Earth, nuke it (or other type of weapons) from Orbit. The only thing I see working is if another AI with a ton of computer power and SENTIENT is there to provide the challenge. Like fight over machines and the fight to be between the 2.
@@wallacesousuke1433 Well how I see it that bow has some tech on it, like the material, the string, arrows are made with special shit scavanged from the robots. At least that is my head canon :) That said the robots are not really made for killing, like war. They are made to act like animals. Remember at the end of the first game when you fight that big robot (forgot the name) that was one of the robots to wipe humanity? I don't think she can take an army of those (an that robot was damaged). Then add shields like the humans had in the last game, and its GG.
@@xxan84 That other AI probably being GAIA which is in full control of Minerva and thus hopefully in control of the Faro-swarm? We also don't know on what basis they change their shutdown codes. Minerva took approximately 50years the first time to crack them. In the battle of meridian they were activated and soon later deactivated again, so the codes couldn't have changed. Perhaps Gaia can change the codes so that even another Super AI like Nemesis can't crack them fast enough?) About the nuke from orbit, yeah I see that point, we'll have to see.
The characters are so good, so photorealistic and their animation so lifelike that it seems like the game has some fmv cutscenes from the 90ies. So real that it seems like real but cheap live action with real but mediocre lighting. They hit some uncanny valley here. Nevertheless crazy and spectacular technogy!
Perhaps I am wrong but I have the feeling that Nemesis should had been kind of Faro's machines instead of this new threat, coming from nowhere. Aloy should have defeated the plague that has already destroyed mankind once and that even Elisabeth couldn't do anything to stop it. I don't know, it would have made more sense to me. Also, Tilda was an interesting character but her death is just laughable. What a waste.
ikr I too felt that the zenith plot was a bit too much... If this was indeed the direction that they intended for the franchise, then it could have been done better (I thought the zeniths were a bit bland and the 3rd arc had too fast of a pace). Overall I really like the game though, that's my only gripe.
@@marketeagle4508 I already theorized after the first game that Zenith survived and was responsible for the signal. There's a very short list of who could send such a signal. Nemesis isn't too much of a stretch either and I think that we'll find out in the next game that Nemesis was created using programming from other lore AI's such as VAST SILVER.
@@johnozzmond9728 Now that I've digested it a bit further, I think the Zeniths came off to me as a trivial villain figure because of how it was executed... I just felt that they were a bit bland so far in this game... It might have been my fault for not getting all the datapoints but I got most of it and still they felt like a mystery to me. To be honest, I would have preferred if we had the Nemesis as the villain for this game, which meant that we teamed up with the Zeniths (also so we gradually get to know them further). Only for them to realize that they wanted to make the world anew and become the antagonists of the 3rd game. Just top of my head though, as I'm still trying to make sense of it and it might have its fair share of plotholes. Anyway, I might be getting too far ahead of myself there. Understanding the Zeniths and perhaps VS might be a big point in the 3rd installment, however I personally think that the story of HFW suffered because of that.
@@marketeagle4508 I kinda like Nemesis as the main villain. Zeniths should've got more screen time, you only really encounter them like three times. Zeniths are just a bunch of rich assholes with futuristic tech. Nemesis is more of an unknown threat, and that uncertainty makes them seem more dangerous, especially given that whatever it is moving through space appears to be a giant ball of solar flares with robots hidden within
I've been hearing a lot of people think the DLC is gonna be about capturing HEPHAESTUS. I think it's actually gonna be something unrelated, like maybe Elysium unless they're withholding that for a fourth game. I think the third game is gonna be a extended chase to shut down the Cauldron network to try and corral HEPHAESTUS so it can be captured. But it also appears that HEPHAESTUS is grower larger, possibly with the intent of become too big for GAIA to absorb. So it might result in the two having to come to some sort of alliance. And at some point Nemesis is going to show up. I think it'll probably send in some scouts ahead of whatever main mass or swarm it has. And we might get some kind of clue about Nemesis via ruins, the Odyssey, or maybe something HEPHAESTUS heard from HADES. And if there is some sort of vulnerability, there'll be some kind of effort to exploit that. Otherwise, it'd probably be a process of restoring the Cauldron network and mass producing machines for a giant fight
Guerrilla have said they've planned for this series to be a trilogy (although whether that was always the plan or just one they developed after Zero Dawn's success, I don't know).
I loved the first game, fucking robots ending all biological Lifeforms and with Zero Dawn it was a chance to rebuild everything. It was like "We're fucked, but the future humans aren't" This feels so... Alien, however in a bad way.. Feels more like fucking X-Men mixed with Matrix and Metal Gear Solid at this point
I didn't preorder and I'm glad.The game is visually stunning,but story-wise it's all over the place.Minor improvements to the gameplay are welcome,but not enough.6 more days for Elden Ring tho...
Fuuuuck to think they left us with a cliffhanger… Havent felt like this since God of War 2 ending And to think we gonna have to wait 4 more years for the third game 😩
If you wondering whose corpse is in Tenakth funeral, it's Regalla. Regardless your choice, let her killed or die in Far Zenith war, she will be in same funeral in the end cutscene
@@NarCissisT789 i will still buy it tho only because i love the franchise haha. I love hunting all type of machines the game offer. So yeah i need this game too
@@yanipro22 si pienso que la gente que no les gusto el juego fueron gente que no tienen ps5 o ps4 pro. Dicen que la version normal del ps4 emula el juego como si fuera mierda.
Im really waiting for a „I‘m not Elisabeth, I‘m Aloy moment“ Even in the first one she and everyone else is just running with the notion that she is basically the same thing as Sobeck. I also find her callbacks to ES weird, just straight disrespect to Chad Rost as her real parent
So basically the ending is just a teaser for a third game?! What a trash... Loved the first game, but this story seems wierd and absolute garbage. How did they manage to turn this game into a X-Men/Scifi/whatever crossover? I'm kinda disappointed.
I have a theory about the next game, Sylens is only sticking around so he can potentially either control nemesis or merge with it for its vast knowledge and power. I don't trust that Aloy got through to him, there's just something about the way he looks at the hologram of nemesis' projection et the end there.
No one got through to him. He's still Sylens; I think he just realized it'd be boring alone on that ship (which he can still steal whenever he wants anyway). You may be right about Nemesis, too, but after so easily defeating the Zeniths, I doubt he cares to meet them again in Nemesis. Apollo's got more than enough to occupy him for life (and he's got copies on earth and on the Odyssey).
Errend, did you notice the scary red glow at the table? No way would you say it was over after passing by that. Anyway, I hope the third and final Horizon comes out soon. I'm hoping they'll make a lion and tiger machine, hopefully as mount. Imagine riding through a jungle on a badass tiger machine. Maybe they could make a dragon machine or a Kraken machine, and give us a way to override while underwater. Would have loved to watch a Ripmaw tear apart those Burrowers in Vegas
i feel like they should have given Aloy and Beta more time together, because after that convo where Aloy showed Beta Rost, they IMMEDIATELY claimed each other as sisters when all they’ve done was dislike each other the whole game. and what makes it worst is that there’s no big moment where Aloy finally saves Beta after she went on and on about “saving her sister”, only to find her and immediately put her to work, and when Beta hugged her she was so lifeless. and i get it’s because Aloy found out some world ending news after saving the world TWICE, but still, the game built up the Aloy and Beta reunion only for it to be so lack luster
I was a bit overlevelled for this fight because I did a lot of side quests. I was level 45. Braced Shot with a maxed Glowblast Sharpshot Bow made all of the fights too easy, including this one. I played on Normal.
Yeah they should've added a level scale in this game to make all the machines scale to you, made the game easy on Hard mode for me, I did a decent amount of side quests but not a lot
Am I the only one who got to lvl 50 way before the end of the game? I did everything I could to take my time. When I wait for a game for this long, it's not to finish in three days x)
Well, the ending is a bit... disappointing. And weird! A postapocalyptic game about hunting robots with bow & arrows suddenly took a wild turn into full sci-fi (with more emphasis on the fiction part) BS. The first game was the peak, it only goes downhill from there - at least from story perspective. I´m glad i didn´t preorder this - in fact, since Cyberpunk 2077, i´m not preordering anything. It´s a bad habit, buying a promise instead of finished product.
Honestly I had headcannon of some guy surviving the post apocalypse with two of the old machines and built a Chinese dragon he named Ao Shin by hiding in a cauldron, and there was a space section where you flew to the odyssey on the dragon meant for space travel. I thought that sounded cooler than this.
The series has been hard fiction from the jump, the “science” behind the animals and machines continue to operate at max capacity without humans for 1000 years was never sound scientifically, it’s always been ridiculous
Wouldn’t it have been boring tho? If it was like the first game? Story plots need to change otherwise they get repetitive and boring. I would rather go down the path of surviving old ones and a supposedly indestructible threat instead of facing more and more robots. If you wanted an expansion or something similar to the 1st game then you can play the 1st game
The story as a whole was fine, but the ending and especially the final boss in this one were very dissapointing. The final boss of the first game was badass, this one.... not so much
Ugh this shit with Far Zenith ended up feeling like that one season of The 100. They hinted so heavily in HZD that Ted Faro was still somehow alive and behind the signal and then go with THIS goofy garbage? Who wants to bet Faro will show up in the third game as a literal deus ex machina to stop Nemesis (bargain bin name right there)
Honestly nemesis itself is kinda dumb. It kinda ruins the whole idea that apollo would have stopped people from making the same mistakes as faro basically making him right which disgusts me. Also I did like the theory of Faro cloning himself in the future similar to aloy and becoming the god of the new world with his copy of apollo. Finally nemesis is just a worse version of the faro plague in the first game the you're learning first hand what a threat the plague was to humanity and how tragic enduring victory and the idea of zero dawn was but nemesis feels like you're so detached from it that you don't really care almost like they felt the need to just up the anti just making a bigger badder threat. The faro plague should have remained the major threat of the series. I would have been fine with it if zenith had been the ones to awaken hades in an attempt to reset earth again for themselves or something but the main bad guy should have just been the still alive faro trying to wipe humanity out or control them just so no one knows of his crimes.
far zenith is supposed to parallel what human did. they created robots and destroyed the earth. far zenith tried to store data and destroyed their own planet
@@Lunk42 Oh my god. Even what you're written here is a better story then... whatever this was supposed to be. Rich awful arrogant Elon Musk-types who can fly; they even have the bald Professor-X expy. Blurgh. I preferred it in the original HZD when whatever sent the Signal was UNKNOWN and a complete mystery.
@@monsimix6839 Oh, he got his. He tried to make himself near-immortal like the Rich pric--err, I mean, the Zeniths... but got turned into an animalistic blob, instead. Pathetic.
I didn’t see Varl, I assume he died in game? The last thing I expected was Sylens at least assisting Alloy, anyway I don’t mind spoilers. The game unlocks for me in about 15 hours, I can’t wait to play it! Good video.
No way Tilda is dead. This lady survived a terrorist attack as a child, survived the bot swarm, survived Nemesis when it destroyed Sirius, and as she says "always know your exists..."
Thank you! Thank you!! I absolutely always watch videos and read stuff on how the game ends before I play it. I applaud you. There is no such thing as spoilers.
Loved this game. Wasn't sure how they were gonna pull it off, because the first one blew me away so much. But damn, they improved on every aspect of the original. Not very often that I can say that about a franchise. Definitely need to see at least one more installment of Aloy's story.
I especially appreciate all the foreshadowing in Horizon 1. A lot of things that played a role in the story of Horizon 2 were already present in the 1st game - Tenakth & Utaru NPCs in side quests and mentions of the Forbidden West, the subordinate functions, the Thebes bunker, Ted's Omega Clearance, the Far Zenith, FZ's cloning technology, the Odyssey, Hades' Masters, the extinction signal, etc.
Kinda makes no sence that she says for the first time I feel like im not alone...I mean when was she ever alone? She always had friends and allys at her side, not to mention did she feel alone when Rost raised her?
After Rost died she has been alone 90% of the time. Sure, she met someone here and there but only for a bit of serious talk and not to have fun. After the ending of the first one it for even worse and she pretty much spent over 6 months completly alone.
How so? All her friends are still there, even Sylens, surprisingly so. Like he had a real change of heart and attachment to Aloy and her friends after all that they went through. The only one who really betrayed her was Tilda, who lied to her about why the zeniths were leaving their planet and proceeded to try to forcefully take her on the ship and start a new world.
Not gonna lie. The game looks great. And the combat looks fun. However, this final boss seems lackluster; and the story kinda seems like it went generic sci fi.
Combat looks fun? Are we watching the same video? The pen-ultimate boss literally glitched at the 5 minute mark. Even the final battle is nothing more than rolling and shooting arrows. Not to mention that there's more cutscenes than gameplay in this video. Combat looks like trash.
@@Naruxos07 yea it’s the same shit from the first game lol first game was aight alot of the story I just skipped through cus it was pretty uninteresting for a LONG time last boss from the first game is better
Not gonna lie seeing the Zeniths' faces change from laughs to surprise then terror when their shields were broken and the machines started to kill them was really satisfying.
I clapped
powerful moment
I cried
I was all "TAKE THAT, YOU GREEDY ELITIST PRICKS!!!"
Yes
R.I.P Lance Reddick; thank you for voicing Sylens.😔
No way, RIP, but who will voice Sylens in the next game?
@@hasanhaitham276 Good question.
RIP my brotha
@@hasanhaitham276the only person I can think of who could pull it off is, Samuel L Jackson
AI voice replace ?
I felt so bad for Beta when Tilda said she was the inferior copy :(
Yeah, that was pretty cruel
I hope they make her fight like Aloy in part 3
@@do0ly1 Why would that happen? That wouldn't even be a fight, Aloy would mop the floor with her.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Alot,Beta and Sylens are actually Apollo. They will be the ones to tell the new world about the old ones.
@@Atom.Storm. that makes no fuckin sense at all. How could Faro erase something that hadn't even existed yet? Seriously, how high are you?
I am really glad Sylens turned out to be a good guy in this one. I totally expected him to be bad.
I never saw Sylens as a villain. He cares about the world and to some extent Aloy but his narcissistic and egotistical personality leads him to doing bad things in pursuit of knowledge
@@louissykes2406 well yeah he isn't necessarily the main baddie but he certainly ain't a good guy. Glad tho to see him doing more of the right things in this game.
Am not sure how I feel about these meta humans tho that can fly & crap. Seems like a bit much to me. Could've done w a better plot device if ya ask me.
@@skins4thewin he’s a morally grey character. He’ll help save the world but he doesn’t care how many lives are sacrificed
And I don’t mind the far zeniths. They were somewhat set up in the last game and their shields just look to be more advanced versions of the shield weaver armour’s tech in zero dawn
The flying is dumb though and it would’ve been better if they were descendants
@@louissykes2406 Yeah I mean I don't mind them either. I do remember the talk about the escape shuttle, so their existence & involvement in the plot is perfectly fine. It's how they were presented that was the problem. Their look is just awful. They should have at least been wearing some sort of high tech looking battle armor to make the shields make sense, something baddass looking like some sort of military combat armor. Not some wigged up nobleman outfit. It looked so damn wack.
& yea the flying was dumb, simply cus it just didn't make much sense based on their look. If anything they could have just made the suits have some sort of propulsion system. That would have been a FAR better choice & would have made the whole thing work perfectly fine. It really wouldn't have been that hard to pull off & would look far less dumb.
Its honestly the first bit in this series that I felt was really kinda wack & out of place. I truly don't get why they went in that direction with their look. It took a series that had been relatively serious thus far & made it look downright silly. Am sure they could have designed some truly sinister looking high tech armor for them instead & ppl would have loved it!
Would love to see some fan mods for the PC version where they fix this.
@@skins4thewin yeah I completely agree. Still looking forward to what they do next and though the zenith are confusing I think the story as a whole was pretty good
Def an. 8.5-9/10 game
No ones gonna talk about how Aloy willingly went and let Erend put his arm around her at the end? I smell character development
I haven't really played the game just watched my cousin play it and even I was like" would aloy really let someone but there arm around her?"
She developed better than I thought in this game. She went from always doing things on her own, never wanting help, to accepting help and opening herself up to people. She learned to open herself up and that's character development at its finest.
@@crazybabuskaman3923 I agree. She didn’t exactly cozy up to people the first time she met them last game. She was still very green when it came to friendships and affection. Now that these people have fought for earth along side her and she’s lost some of them she’s learned to value them a lot more and appreciate them being by her side.
She always had a thing for Erend....and Varl =(
They have too much chemistry, I hope to see some romance develope in the third game for them
Zenith underestimated sylens. His potential is insane. If he was in the old ones world, he'd be more dangerous and intelligent than Ted faro in his pursuit of knowledge. Love how they made him even smarter in this game
Sylens was playing 4D chess the entire game and beat everyone. What a man.
@@mtlfpv aloy won, not sylens
Ted Faro was in the pursuit of fame and glory. Sylens was in the pursuit of knowledge. Beside, Ted Faro wasn't even very tech savvy. He was just a very successful business man.
@@MrVidman14 well. She was one of his pieces.
@@mtlfpv more like 4D chess in 8K with Raytracing
I know i'm at least 4-5 years too early, but I can't wait for Chapter 3 to venture onto the Odissey and discover all the Zenith's secrets. This story took a sharp turn to Sci-Fi that I absolutely adore.
So is this confirmed ? Or just a speculation?? Lol 😂
Cause I’m suspecting the same thing but idk… I enjoyed HZD and forbidden west… hopefully they make another one !
@@sergionavarro27 I believe Guerrilla always envisaged the Horizon story as a trilogy (besides which, Sony has been putting Aloy front and centre of their promo videos lately so they clearly know she’s worth big $$$).
Horizon: Odyssey
@@sergionavarro27 I mean the game ends setting up for a trilogy. Another threat coming to earth. The question now is how do you destroy something that can destroy a planet?
It definitely will be a few years at least until we get a threequel. Fuck, I’ll be 30 by then
@@kibblesnbits3174 I think the Earth’s lower level of technology might actually work in its favour - there are fewer manufacturing facilities for Nemesis to take over and use to its advantage.
Just tell Nemesis, “We killed all those guys for you, you’re welcome,” and it would probably go on its way.
lol Aloy would look Nemesis in the eye and say “you’ll know when you need to know” like every character did in this game a thousand times.
I have a feeling nemesis woul be too consumed by anger to listen.
and if it says "you dont know what its like to be alone for decades" both aloy and beta can tell it of how they were isolated for decades too
I don’t think that’ll work with the worst parts of rich people’s egotistical evil parts…
Nemesis wants Aloy as his girlfriend xD I swear if this is like the book Demon Seed, the Mofo will say he will mate with Alopy yo make something better than the human race
I'm so glad to see that Sylens is still alive at the end of the story. He is my favorite character in Horizon.
I’m so sorry
+1
But he’s just so emotionless
He owns
yeha i love sylens too. evne though he is on the same side, his methods are always different. his relationship with Aloy is so fun to see. Even though i would have loved to see Sylens go on that shuttle, im glad he stayed. I hope he is in the next game more. Even though he was in this one so little, he has his own on going story and was even knew more than Aloy because he had Hades.
Alloy's growth is one of the best in gaming. She started as an outcast chasing after Elizabeth's dream, wanting to be like her, but became someone better. Someone who cares about life but also takes part of it. Being open to people unlike Elizabeth who always keep people at arms length.
It’s up there with Cj from San Andreas
She is so cocky. Its annoying
19:18 - I strongly suspect that Sylens had either a brother or a sister that he lost and he's getting hit right in the feels here, making him decide to stay.
That's a good thought. Hopefully he actually peels back the curtain a bit at some point here and lets us see a little more into his personal story.
Nah, I think he just realized life on his own would be boring, especially without Aloy to argue with. He can still run off on the Odyssey whenever he wants.
The pessimist in me thinks at that moment Sylens realized something yet unrevealed, and stayed merely for his own benefit. Sylens always has an angle, after all.
Sylens's blindspot is that he doesn't have true allies and friends. He's clearly lost patience trying to teach the "primitives" as he calls them, and instead just manipulates them to his own ends. And to be fair, it was also Aloy's blindspot for the first half in the game. A big part of the story is that she finally understands that her friends are not just well intentioned but largely useless liabilities, but essential to success if given a proper chance. And they don't just provide cold advancement to a goal, but maybe also the warmth and comfort of family that she never realized that she needed and never felt with the Nora.
For Sylens, there may have been a time where he loved and was loved. And at some point he stopped caring about that a long time ago, and probably found it easier to manipulate, trick, and ultimately discard people to do what he feels needs to be done instead of having to try to constantly babysit them and attempt to resolve their ignorance of the reality of their world. I like to think that by the end of the game, he begrudgingly comes to see that Aloy's way of building alliances and friendships to advance her agenda was perhaps a better way to go than his way of solitude. He admits as much, as far as his pride/ego will let him, when he tells Aloy that her plan gave the same end results as his plan. But that final bit where he sees the family that Aloy has chosen embrace her with their warmth, maybe her plan also created something more. Maybe something Sylens felt a very long time ago and has not felt since. Maybe there was something more to Aloy's way to accomplishing their mission, and maybe this planet full of primitives was nonetheless worth trying to save instead of abandon.
Anyways, that's my take on it. I don't think Sylens is evil. He's not to be trusted, he's not good, he's certainly not warm....but he's no Ted Faro.
He wants friends
I loved this ending so much - Aloy and Beta both finally got the family they’d never had.
I know, right. This is the way to create a game franchise, with character stories that develop and give you reason to replay the whole thing from the first game.
@@milesdufine Indeed. I don’t think I’ve been actively moved by a game’s story like I was with this one - I mean Aloy’s story in Zero Dawn was emotional, but this was on another level. I genuinely shed a tear during Beta’s breakdown and her reconciliation with Aloy.
That’s not true, Aloy had Rost!
@@mal_thespygirl yeah but sadly, rost liter had forgotten Person
@@mal_thespygirl True, but she now has a support system outside of her deceased father figure.
I think those gold plates are vulnerable. It's a shame the game didn't remind us of that fact every two seconds.
Gold is a soft metal. That why a gold sword would be useless in a fight (and super heavy).
@@stephenking5852 thanks for your brief explanation of the physical properties of gold but I think you miss the point…
Regardless, I’m pretty sure those “golden” plates aren’t made out of actual “gold” but a metal of similar color, Why would someone knowingly add metal plates to cover an outer layer of a highly advanced combat machine? to protect the sensitive parts of that machine no less.
One of the biggest things I hated about this game was the constant annoying messages. "Hit it with acid arrows". I rage quit at least once because I was tired of hearing that.
@@quademasters249 you can turn it off in the settings you know...
@@cvxgaming6855 Ha I didn't think to look for a "stop annoying me" switch. I'll check it out, thanks.
Im kinda sad that Tilda forced Aloy to come with her. I really liked the character and was hoping she survives
I stopped liking her the moment she called Beta "an inferior copy." Right then, I realized (or at least formed an opinion) that Tilda wasn't connecting with Beta out of kindness, but rather to "raise" Beta into Tilda's own, personal Elisabet Sobek to replace the one she lost. Tilda went from forgery-detector to the ultimate forger.
She gave off a crazy stalker vib which I thought was pretty impressive considering the rest of the writing. She stalked Elisbet in the past and now wants her clones in the present.
I hated Tilda for what happened in the end but I still have a bit of hunch that she isnt finished / killed yet and may show up on next sequel. ... after final battle cutscene Aloy ddnt checked the pod where her remains was. Then, after getting into the base after finishing the story, I went back into the Zeniths base to check on Tilda’s pod but the game does not allow me to go back. Earlier the game when Tilda was introduced in the story by Beta, I also had this hunch that She - “Tilda” and Elisabeth may have had a history, and I was correct. Now I am hoping that my guts is also right this time.
She's sussy from the very beginning
Nah she had weird vibes from the beginning and then it's revealed that she's basically a groomer chasing after a millennia old romance. I liked her character too but she was as fucked up as anyone else aboard the Odyssey.
I feel like it would've been cooler if Aloy was able to call a Sunwing to her aid to get to the top, but would get shot down halfway by Erik, which would result in the boss fight
@Kromgar1337 yeah, I tried to explore the island just before starting the final mission.
I tried to explore it too not knowing what it was. But I thought it would be cool if they started to shoot you if you lingered or something like that, or maybe just straight up kill you and the game would restart from save idk
@@erinocelotl3578 I kinda spoiled the ending a little bit for me when I went out exploring in the coast. I noticed the space ship. Honestly I was expecting Aloy and some of the crew to leave earth, atleast for a while. I’m glad they decided to stay. Although I’m fairly certain the next game will have missions in space.
@@angelgjr1999 It's not implausible some DLC could be on the Odyssey, but I can't imagine what you'd do there beyond fleshing out the lore. There's nothing there except maybe Specter drones. I'm reasonably confident the DLC will be called Burning Shores and take place south of the Hoover dam. Aside from that, I don't think it'll greatly involve HEPHAESTUS and will probably have nothing to do with NEMESIS. I think those will largely be set aside for the third game. Best guess is maybe we'll find Elysium and maybe some Old World Clawback-era tech as a stand-in while until they figure out a way to recontain HEPHAESTUS
@@angelgjr1999 Space in the third game still seems unlikely, except maybe for the final quest or two, perhaps to kill whatever machine is housing NEMESIS main consciousness. GAIA has no space machines and I doubt there's any intact space shuttles aside from Zenith, which nobody currently knows how to operate or maintain.
Just finished the story about 90 hours into the game. This sequel went far beyond my expectations with pretty much every aspect to the game. The map size was ridiculous, at least twice as large. One of the best things Guerrilla games added was swimming underwater. This just added a whole new layer to gameplay, quests and exploration. And of course, adding a flying mount was much needed.
Story wise, there were some really huge twists, ESPECIALLY with Ted Faro in San Francisco. With all that said, one thing that did not sit right with me was Tilda as a character. I feel like her death was extremely abrupt, considering how much the game was building her up to be an important character. I feel that she should have survived and I didn't necessarily like that she turned into the final boss at the end. I find that it was just lost potential. I was really hoping she was going to working alongside Aloy for future games
Tilda was very suspicious since the moment Aloy met her, i wasnt suprised at all. Zeniths became corrupted to the core becaus of living for an eternity
@@PanPrezeso That's true, I agree that Tilda was shown to be a very suspicious character and there's no surprise Aloy had to fight her. I guess I am just sad she died so soon. She seemed important based on her personal connection with Elizabet Sobeck
@Ryan Vetter why don't you stick to that pisspoor of a game elden ring is and leave the real gaming to us
"it is not about the distant hope of creating a new world, it's about preserving the one we have" this line hit close to home.
Gotta like the aloy breathing during cutscene bug at the end lol
I was wondering where tf that breathing was coming from lol
@@carbonfibercarpet4655 for a moment it made me think that Tilda somehow survived
I know the game has post apocalyptic and futuristic theme but I literally didn't expect something you'd see in Star Trek
Agree, this is a jump the shark moment for horizon dawn
@@Batalia122 hard disagree
The Old Ones’ time was futuristic enough to achieve space travel in the form of the Odyssey. If it was truly Star Trek, we would’ve been able to go to the Sirius colony.
If you play the game this doesn’t appear out of nowhere. The futuristic guys come and you meet them you dont randomly face a futuristic creature for the first time
@@dequasont1063 I mean it does 🤦♂️
I smiled so much and squealed a little bit when Sylens stayed.
Character Development!!!!
I hope recapturing Hephaestus will be a DLC and dealing with nemesis will be the main focus in the third game.
Maybe in the third we might be able to see the Horus Titan class machines put into use?
I highly doubt it. The recapture of hephaestus will be reserved in the third game because; 1. We already had a DLC with that particular AI when we visited the Banuk in Frozen Wilds 2. There's a reason why they steered the plot to not include Hephaestus; so we have to fetch him in the next game, I'm willing to bet he's going to be holed up near the territory of The Quen, so we have another tribe with their ideologies and possible characters with god complexes (Ceo) to deal with.
@@ArbiterofMankind you’re right! Didn’t event think of that. Now that I think of it, I’m not sure if we could get DLC. I’m not even sure what it would be about.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !!
I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
@@heavensys9199 damn man
I played Horizon and I remember almost never using fast travel.. Sometimes I'd ride for 1 hour just to get to where I wanted.. Such a beautiful game to spend time with!
one question pls....Is varl dead???
You must've loved RDR2.
Just to clarify, you did know about the golden fast travel pack… right?
@Tahir yea
the witcher, horizon and rdr2 are game that you dont want to use fast travel
After almost 90 hours of playing the game, I finally beat the main story. I enjoyed every moment. All the roller coasters of emotions and such. I would love for Guerilla to announce future DLC content in the future. As low as the Quen Tribe is, I would like to see more of them. Maybe even have Quen armor sets and face paints. Maybe even the return of the Banuk. I loved that Tribe alot.
Now, a few of my theories for the next Horizon game. One is that, we are gonna have to recapture HEPHAESTUS in a brand new region. What will that region be? Who knows. Maybe up north? And it will more then likely to be even harder to capture, probably planning up multiple contingency plans to evade being absorbed by GAIA.
Second and final theory is that, we might have to have a brand new HADES subordinate to restore GAIA back up to 100% to help increase their chances of victory against Nemesis. Or make a brand new subordinate to replace HADES as a whole.
I can't wait to see what comes next.
90 HOURS? I BEAT IN IN 16H AND THOUGHT IT WAS LONG
@@MageOtter27 You obviously skipped most of the side quests and exploration then
Hadn't considered a new subfunction. Could work, give GAIA more heuristic density to absorb HEPHAESTUS. I don't think it'd be HADES. NEMESIS can target HADES with the signal, so restoring him as a subfunction is a bad idea until NEMESIS is killed. Next game probably will be north, unless they go east of the original game to Texas or something
@@johnozzmond9728 true i didnt do sixe quests
@@MageOtter27 I did like half of them. Spent most of my time grind for Apex hearts to max out legendary gear. Though I find the weapons a little underwhelming compared to the last game. A lot of the endgame weapons have ammo types I'm less inclined toward, and I didn't quite figure out the spike thrower or shredder gauntlet
The only disappointing part is far zenith being evil, i was genuinely hoping they would come back to earth with some Apollo archive, it also feels so empty without music
Only? An endgame boss glitched and stopped fighting. I'd be far more disappointed if a boss fight in my $70 video game stopped working.
@@Naruxos07 i can never imagine how pissed i would be
@@Naruxos07 Or how about you bought the game when the prices are low? It's honestly your fault.
@@henrymugello3387 how about buying the PS4 version which is way cheaper and upgrading it to the PS5 version for free 🤣
@@amazingspiderman2963 Exactly what I did lmao
From 16:08 all the way to 20:29 you can hear heavy breathing in the background if you listen closely at max volume, lol. Turning off the background music made this boss battle feel very empty, but I love the creature/futuristic designs in this sequel.
Why is their breathing?
@@hadesfades It's just a bug. I've seen other playthroughs without it, so it's not going to be on anyone else's run of the game.
@@JoIjloL lol breathing is a bug? Why would a bug ever cause something like that? It was probably the players mic being on or something. Sounded like they were hyperventilating lol. I mean why was there no music in the 1st place? Is there not supposed to be music during the final battle & ending?
@@skins4thewin The game has minor bugs and still needs updates. I've seen videos where bosses freeze in position, making them easy to kill, lol. The player doesn't have his mic on, we would've heard him speak or breathe throughout the entire video not just the timecode I highlighted. Also, the breathing are in repeated loops and they come from Aloy's various soundbanks. I have Horizon Forbidden West and you can turn off the background music if you want to for the entire game, just like most games.
@@JoIjloL Ohh I see, I didn't know that about the breathing. Yeah that's a pretty odd bug. Am sure a lot of it will be fixed tho.
Also can't imagine why this person would want to turn the music off, but whatever floats the boat I guess.
5:11 "Oh man, having three arrows shot straight to my face sure have me feeling winded for some reason..."
yeah was that a bug? lol
@@rons_seb Could be, or could just be this is on the easiest possible difficulty and on harder difficulties those three free shots wouldn't make that drastic of a difference.
@@jondoe7036 its easy difficulty. I faced him on very hard and there was literally no point in shooting his head, i ended up spamming him with a bolt blaster
Finally finished the story. And it was so good. Did all the side quests too cause it was so exciting to explore. Cant wait for the next game! Nemesis sounds like the god of destruction!
The side quest was addicting. But also served a purpose to help the character improve, which I liked because oftentimes they usually in games are a lot of work with little to no reward to them. Often I played the side missions here, mute while youtube subscriptions were playing in the background.
Fitting, since in mythology Nemesis was the Greek Goddess of Retribution.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !!
I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
I'm absolutely gutted. One of my favorite VAs ever, it was refreshing to hear someone other than Troy Baker in a lead role.
11:40 this shows that Tilda clearly inspired the design of the ps5 💯😎👌👍
Lmaoo wtf
Whole zenith is ps5 ads 😅
@@ravenwestr1681 pretty much 🤷♂️
What? Flying people? Where is Magneto? Where is Wolverine? What's going on? So many questions.
WHERE'S MY BOY MAGNETO AT?????
It’s a suit that they’re wearing
"Check mate,old friend."
Are they humans what’s going on
@@MasterTopHat42 watch the whole game… or play it and find out
4:52 - "and now I must kill you, by merging with the wall and standing there doing nothing hoping you have a sudden heart attack"... lol bugs
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He be like I'm just going to be in this wall hopefully no one kills me
So at the end, Gaia has been restored with only two missing subordinate functions. Hades is one obviously, since it was destroyed and no copies exist anywhere else. And the other is... Hephaestus? I guess he got away again once they used him to repel the Zenith's army. Makes sense I guess, otherwise there would be no rogue robots to fight in the next game. I wonder if they'll actually use Apollo to educate the population now, assuming the tribes even want the knowledge.
Nemesis can make machines too, they let hephasteus go to have machines to fight after the player finishes the main story
Gaia lost two sub functions but in their place, Aloy and Beta :)
There would also be no legit reason to fight them in the ‘post game’ either, good save on their part giving us the cool robot army against the zeniths while also giving a logical reason you can still fight then after the ending and in the next game
Well thay still can get Hephaestus back cause without it earth can't be fully restored
Chief Hekarro would. His whole reason with making peace with the Carja was for a chance to have his tribe learn the written word. It'd probably make it so much easier by avoiding the Carja hate still simmering in his tribe if they got it straight from Apollo. He's got an in on that with Kotallo.
Erend and Aloy's cuddle at the end is everything to me
I have a feeling we’re gonna need to get Hades back in the next (and I’m assuming final) installment of Horizon to fight Nemesis. That would be interesting.
That's actually a good theory. There should still be a copy of hades somewhere in the proving lab.
@@OMGitsSparky It's mentioned I believe that the Proving Lab copies were all so badly degraded from time and damage that they no longer work.
We can only assume that Horizon will be a trilogy. Call of the Mountain is merely a spin-off.
!! Warning potential spoilers for Horizon 3 !!
I think the third game could be interesting, i personally think Vast Silver might have caused the glitch in the faro robots, Vast Silver was an Ai that was created in the 2040s when elisabet sobeck was still working for ted faro, in 2044 he went rogue and escaped but soon was captured, i think it was a lie because i found a datapoint that hints that he wasn't captured and still free somewhere in the world, i think Vast Silver caused the glitch because he was scared of humanity, and he might appear in the third game imagine Vast Silver vs Nemesis.
I love this game. Combat is awesome, diving, flying. It's great, But the ending could've been better. But it's funny that Tilda van der Meer is actually Dutch. Well makes sense when the game actually comes from the Netherlands. But the game still got some bugs. I fell trough the floor in the base today. But it's still a great game.
Play more games
Omg I fall through the floor everytime I exit GAIA's room
@@aqua5758 Your not the only one, I've been falling for 30 minutes 🤣
And one rebel camp is completely broken if you leave in the middle of the fight.
You too? I've fallen through the floor like five times. Now I carefully edge out of the room and make sure there's a floor
I do wish the Zeniths were more fleshed out and I didn't like the whole immortal floating shield thing, I know they're advanced but it was a bit too much. Nemesis came out of nowhere but obviously they had to set up a villain for the next game. Hopefully there is DLC that explains Far Zenith more.
overall I really enjoyed the story and think it's a great game.
Well, you could get a similar shield in Zero Dawn, and they had a millennium to improve that technology
I'm fine with everything except yeah, I do wish they had been fleshed out more or we got to interact more with them. Although I understand why that wouldn't really work so I don't blame them, just a nice thought
Some of Gaia's machines such as the Behemoth and the armadillo thing utilize gravity manipulation. And energy shielding already exists in the lore. A civilization with an additional thousand years of development could massively improve the technology. Hell in the real world, we've only had the internet for about thirty or forty years and it's come a long way in a very short time
I feel like the DLC (if we get one) will be on par with Frozen Wilds
I think we'll either go back to a location from the previous game, maybe to shut down old cauldrons spewing out new machines threatening the carja and nora... Which would make sense since HEPH is more advanced thanks to his time with the Zeniths
OR
Maybe visit the Quen. Which would be nice but I can see them saving that for the sequel if not. Creating an entire clan, culture, land etc. is clearly a lot of effort... Especially when they could just bring back a section of the old map and update it.
(I hope it's the former I miss Avad and I think Aloy really needs to tell Sona she's now childless 😭)
but I kinda hope they'll extend the map past where hoover dam is. I'd love to explore the other side.
It kinda sucks that a few landmarks are extremely out of the way and easy to miss.
@@AgentDigits Now that you mention it, it's definitely gonna be the Hoover dam. I thought it was odd for them to put it in when you can't do much in the area. And there's a note from that awkward Oseram guy from the Frozen Wilds dam north of there by the tunnel. He said he was heading south to the Burning Shore. I couldn't find him anywhere, and the dam was south of that location. Burning Shore could also make sense as a DLC as the first was Frozen Wilds
Ted Faro: Richest man on earth. Chiefly responsible for creating an entirely unstoppable army of murder robots that ended all life on earth.
Far Zenith: A colony of the richest people on earth. Responsible for creating a seemingly unstoppable AI who destroyed their colony and aims to end all life on earth.
So, in the Horizon saga, it seems that if you're ultra rich, you're probably gonna create something capable of bringing about an extinction level apocalypse. Whoopsie!
I mean, think how how much it costs to make a nuclear bomb...
In real world too, If you are powerful, rich and have the technology by your side
The game is a middle finger to the rich elites.
A minor correction though, Nemesis didn't really care about Earth one way or another. Unleashing Hades was just its way to deny Zenith their prize.
@@raistlin3462 well that's rich coming from the devs of HZD
Since, they're kinda owned by Soyny🤣
These games are both VERY anti-capitalist and pro-feminist. Like most recent games. Im just glad it isn't heavy handed
That moment when Erend put his arm on Aloy's shoulder.. I been waiting that moment since 2017 :')
I hope in the next one it shows Aloy being closer with her friends and spending more time with Beta.
See, there is an issue with Sylens' plan for Aloy. without HADES, that's not viable. they'd only have one chance, and it took GAIA several attempts to get this one right
If they failed they could just take gaia and go to another planet to try again
0:16 the gmod admins coming to ban me
lmao
The most disappointing thing was that they were hypin up the zeniths so much but you only fought like one. Tilda like barely counts with that specter prime or whatever. I was hoping you’d be able to fight your way through more zeniths
Considering zeniths weren’t really warriors it made sense. I also felt the last level of the first game was harder than this one.
@@TheZachary86 True, the zeniths that were encountered weren't really warriors; Erik was an exception. Even then, Erik allowed his personal pride and ego to blind his (ostensibly non-existent) reasoning. He underestimated not only Aloy, but the GAIA-created Terrans as a whole. The zeniths were also, by and large, physiologically "soft" as a people due to their reliance on highly-developed technology; they weren't battle-hardened warrior zealots like the inhabitants of Earth.
This. They were a super-let down. 20 seconds and 90% of them are dead. Since they were leaving anyway, there was no real reason to fight them in the first place. The end destroyed the whole motivation for the rest of the game.
@@thehiddenone00 Sure but, for them to write this game so, that the whole build up to fight the bad guys ends up being pointless is simply poor writing. I'm not saying Aloy did anything wrong trying to fight, I'm saying the people who made the game, screwed this up.
All this build-up only to be let down. The whole game is filled with let-downs like this. I was looking forward to "Thebes" for example expecting to see an amazing billionaire retreat and what we got was another boring area.
True, I understand that they are not warriors, but they could have said that after many years of immortality they decided to learn how to fight, still good final battle
boy, this game really went to a crazy level of sci-fi... don't really like that tbh
Preferred the more grounded sci-fi of the last game with it being more about a post-apocalypse world rebuilding itself, but having to deal with the past humans tech. This is now just generic "evil space humans" wanting to end the world, just meh. Also not a fan of sequel bait cliffhanger endings like this, the first game had a better ending even if it was also setting up the next game.
Series went from original concept to “the writers binge watched The 100 on CW” real quick
"Grounded Sci fi". Humanity restarts with 5 regular animals left and a shit ton of robo animals everywhere.. yeah.. grounded..
“Man Of Steel” Kryptonians and Mankind lol
it's the definition of a corporate game,everything about it is bland and predictable
@@kotabear6556 ever heard Svalbard Global Seed Vault? This is specifically made if shit goes down bad and grow everything back.
Better this than this space human bullshit
Well this seems lowkey disappointing; expecting we'd finally get to face off against that fricking titanic doomsday metal fortress, that was actively teased at the end of the first game, I can't help but find this over-sized action-figure looking mofo to be a tad underwhelming.
Oh well, atleast it's something of an unique encounter and not just a buffed up version of a mech you'd fought multiple times throughout the campaign already, like in the last game.
Gorilla isn’t good with final bosses tbf, although yes, I would have loved to fight a living mountain breaking critter
It wasn't meant to be teased as a boss fight, Sylens was going to use the Titan to store Hades in
@@violetgreer2443 You show me an end-credit scene of a morally dubious character standing ominously in front of a giant fricking robot, while holding a genocidal AI-device, that's been established to be able to power up and control these kinda robots, I'm not gonna go "oh he must be planning to use that giant death mech as a glorified hazard container for that portable Skynet radiator".
And I am hard-pressed to find that sort of subversion of expectations as anything but disappointing.
@@jondoe7036 this is not the final game
@@timeyinsholaye9169 Almost certainly not, but not sure how likely us coming back to that Metal Devil and other Hades controlled mechs is at this point, when the main plot of this game seems to have veered away from all that.
I kinda like the ending to the first better. More closure.
tbh same the first one was kinda better and this ending was more like unreal
Ehh, I’m personally looking forward to actually fighting some bosses for my play through.
Also, the soundtrack "Victory" and "Homecoming" were waaaay too emotional!
This ending was setting up for the 3rd game
I really don't like this ending
I'm pretty disappoint, the first game had a such emotional ending: at the end of the adventure aloy found her mother, was like a ending of a part aloy's life; the time she was try to found who really is it's over, it's like a closure, the ending of forbidden west is just soulles , it's much more a x-men movie mixed with star treek .
Horizon Zero Dawn's ending is symbolic. They didn't need to make a second game from it. This game imo. It's ending isn't as drastic because I think it's meant to show that Aloys journey, her war hasn't ended. There's more to do. We get just as much closure on this as she does and still can do nothing besides prepare for the next threat while feeling empty.
To me it would’ve been better if they actually were shown recovering Apollo
@@gamingawesomeness222 technically it's already integrated with Gaia by the time they reach Beta, so it wouldn't be possible.
I felt the end so empty without our friends at the base xd We can't talk with Beta or Gaia anymore
Gonna be honest, i also liked the ending in the 1st game more, amd especcially the final boss of the first game. I was dissapointed to not see a horus came to life
This game is literally the punishment for anyone that praised the original for its plot and storytelling.
Personaly ZD Story is much more grounded. I mean a horde of Robots eating every living thing for fuel is somehow believable to me.
@@monsimix6839 I'd say it more familiar than it is grounded. It's very similar to The Matrix, but rather than humanity losing and hiding underground, they lose and get sent back to the stone age. But the "AI Hivemind" fufills almost exactly the same role: a man-made threat that sees humans as biofuel. And I think because of it being so similar to The Matrix, people ended up being more forgiving.
@@monsimix6839 Its not, robits had zero chances to consume the planet.
Wasnt expecting this game to have a good story, gameplay is where it's at
I would've liked the story if it was just Aloy recovering GAIA and finding all the functions/cure the plague/biosphere but then as soon as I saw "advanced space humans" I was massively disappointed
So the Zeniths are done, HEPHAESTUS has escaped, a new enemy inbound, and Vast Silver has yet to be found…
Too bad we’re never gonna se sylens again 😔 RIP my guy
Nice,typed in Horizon zero dawn and literally got the ending of the second game spoiled by a tumbnail...noice
When tilda tried to force Aloy to come with her I jokingly thought to myself “well that crazy stalker behaviour may be apart of why Elizabeth broke up with you.”
"Eye have you" Yeah ok Drebin.
DAMMIT, THE MEMORIES!!! Why did things have to end that way?? 😭😭😭😭😭
Finally finished the game today and absolutely loved the ending. Can't wait for the expansion packs, hopefully we get more than just one!
They will be a expansion packs ??? Or another horizon in 2025
2017 - Horizon is touted as an industry changer. It turns out lukewarm and gets consumed by Zelda.
2022 - Horizon is touted as an industry changer. It turns out lukewarm and gets consumed by Elden Ring. And then Zelda again.
History is cyclical. See you in 2027 when Horizon: Tagline Ominous gets overshadowed by the new Mavis Beacon game.
@avilio totally agree
Horizon: Zero content
Horizon: Forbidden content
Horizon: Recycled content
Consumed by ELden Ring lol nice one buddy
@@wallacesousuke1433 nobody cares about horizon
@@deadmeme4276 elden trash will hardly sell 5mil copies lifetime, trash game, played beta, canceled preorder
You know, if a bunch of arrow, sword wileding humans are going to win where advanced humans failed... That is going to be a huge stretch...
To be fair, one huuge advantage the AI on Sirius had was access to ALL systems. You might argue that high-tech environments make it easier for Nemesis to erradicate an entire civilization.
Definitely going to be interesting to see though how/if they pull it off. Expectations on this are probably like expectations on the lore of the first one (robot dinos in a tribal world): Its either genius or the exact opposite.
@@ruka_2178 Earth is full of tech and ROBOTS for it to take control. Don't we have all over the Earth something like a beehive of killer robots just waiting for activation? Not only that its coming to Earth, assuming in a spaceship with a lot of goodies.
I mean, with how advanced they are, they don't even need to set foot on Earth, nuke it (or other type of weapons) from Orbit.
The only thing I see working is if another AI with a ton of computer power and SENTIENT is there to provide the challenge. Like fight over machines and the fight to be between the 2.
Well, the entire game is a stretch already, Aloy being able to take down gigantic ultra-advanced robots with no armor and using a measly bow..
@@wallacesousuke1433 Well how I see it that bow has some tech on it, like the material, the string, arrows are made with special shit scavanged from the robots. At least that is my head canon :)
That said the robots are not really made for killing, like war. They are made to act like animals. Remember at the end of the first game when you fight that big robot (forgot the name) that was one of the robots to wipe humanity? I don't think she can take an army of those (an that robot was damaged). Then add shields like the humans had in the last game, and its GG.
@@xxan84 That other AI probably being GAIA which is in full control of Minerva and thus hopefully in control of the Faro-swarm? We also don't know on what basis they change their shutdown codes. Minerva took approximately 50years the first time to crack them. In the battle of meridian they were activated and soon later deactivated again, so the codes couldn't have changed. Perhaps Gaia can change the codes so that even another Super AI like Nemesis can't crack them fast enough?) About the nuke from orbit, yeah I see that point, we'll have to see.
The characters are so good, so photorealistic and their animation so lifelike that it seems like the game has some fmv cutscenes from the 90ies. So real that it seems like real but cheap live action with real but mediocre lighting. They hit some uncanny valley here. Nevertheless crazy and spectacular technogy!
I felt the uncanny valley way more in the first.
Perhaps I am wrong but I have the feeling that Nemesis should had been kind of Faro's machines instead of this new threat, coming from nowhere. Aloy should have defeated the plague that has already destroyed mankind once and that even Elisabeth couldn't do anything to stop it. I don't know, it would have made more sense to me.
Also, Tilda was an interesting character but her death is just laughable. What a waste.
ikr I too felt that the zenith plot was a bit too much... If this was indeed the direction that they intended for the franchise, then it could have been done better (I thought the zeniths were a bit bland and the 3rd arc had too fast of a pace). Overall I really like the game though, that's my only gripe.
@@marketeagle4508 I already theorized after the first game that Zenith survived and was responsible for the signal. There's a very short list of who could send such a signal. Nemesis isn't too much of a stretch either and I think that we'll find out in the next game that Nemesis was created using programming from other lore AI's such as VAST SILVER.
@@johnozzmond9728 Now that I've digested it a bit further, I think the Zeniths came off to me as a trivial villain figure because of how it was executed... I just felt that they were a bit bland so far in this game... It might have been my fault for not getting all the datapoints but I got most of it and still they felt like a mystery to me. To be honest, I would have preferred if we had the Nemesis as the villain for this game, which meant that we teamed up with the Zeniths (also so we gradually get to know them further). Only for them to realize that they wanted to make the world anew and become the antagonists of the 3rd game. Just top of my head though, as I'm still trying to make sense of it and it might have its fair share of plotholes.
Anyway, I might be getting too far ahead of myself there. Understanding the Zeniths and perhaps VS might be a big point in the 3rd installment, however I personally think that the story of HFW suffered because of that.
@@marketeagle4508 I kinda like Nemesis as the main villain. Zeniths should've got more screen time, you only really encounter them like three times. Zeniths are just a bunch of rich assholes with futuristic tech. Nemesis is more of an unknown threat, and that uncertainty makes them seem more dangerous, especially given that whatever it is moving through space appears to be a giant ball of solar flares with robots hidden within
I've been hearing a lot of people think the DLC is gonna be about capturing HEPHAESTUS. I think it's actually gonna be something unrelated, like maybe Elysium unless they're withholding that for a fourth game. I think the third game is gonna be a extended chase to shut down the Cauldron network to try and corral HEPHAESTUS so it can be captured. But it also appears that HEPHAESTUS is grower larger, possibly with the intent of become too big for GAIA to absorb. So it might result in the two having to come to some sort of alliance. And at some point Nemesis is going to show up. I think it'll probably send in some scouts ahead of whatever main mass or swarm it has. And we might get some kind of clue about Nemesis via ruins, the Odyssey, or maybe something HEPHAESTUS heard from HADES. And if there is some sort of vulnerability, there'll be some kind of effort to exploit that. Otherwise, it'd probably be a process of restoring the Cauldron network and mass producing machines for a giant fight
4:41 He just heard you shoot him in the head!?
for fucksake...
HELP TILDA'S BREATHING IN THE BACKGROUND LMFAO
Definitely has to be a 3rd game in the future. Hopefully if there is we don't have to wait too long
I hope sooo, when I played the game for the first time I had 16, now I'm 21 xd I don't want to play the third part almost at my 30's Hahaha
Guerrilla have said they've planned for this series to be a trilogy (although whether that was always the plan or just one they developed after Zero Dawn's success, I don't know).
I loved the first game, fucking robots ending all biological Lifeforms and with Zero Dawn it was a chance to rebuild everything. It was like "We're fucked, but the future humans aren't"
This feels so... Alien, however in a bad way..
Feels more like fucking X-Men mixed with Matrix and Metal Gear Solid at this point
What an explanation
I didn't preorder and I'm glad.The game is visually stunning,but story-wise it's all over the place.Minor improvements to the gameplay are welcome,but not enough.6 more days for Elden Ring tho...
@@altrusjames6319 elden ring will get many people angry and dissapointed, i canceled preorder after beta test, the game is trash
@@kalibr22 what the fuck are you on about? People loved the beta and of course it has flawes, it's a Beta after all.
Btw, git gud scrub
The fist was kinda realistic this it’s just strait up science fiction
Fuuuuck to think they left us with a cliffhanger…
Havent felt like this since God of War 2 ending
And to think we gonna have to wait 4 more years for the third game 😩
If you wondering whose corpse is in Tenakth funeral, it's Regalla. Regardless your choice, let her killed or die in Far Zenith war, she will be in same funeral in the end cutscene
I want Erend and Aloy together so bad and I don't normally care for romance in games. They're adorable together 💙
Yep they remind me of the Viking chieftain and his wife from Primal.
@@amaliafilip2886 only Primal game I love and am familiar with is Primal on PS2 back in 2003 😊
20:28 you can see utaru, tenakh, quen, Nora and oseram reunited. With sylens the banuk.
We don't actually know if Sylens was Banuk, only that he impersonated a shaman to get a hold of their technological secrets and left.
@@connorgrynol9021 it's true but i think he is but he didnt care about the banuk. His only concern is knowledge. He said it many times.
You're missing Carja
@@ofearghailthefearless6481 Talanah is not there.
It is so stupid that they left the final fight area blocked after finishing the main story. WHY??? It could have been an extra area to explore.
A lot of people will say the first one was better and i think i agree.
Para mi el zero dawn es mejor por varias cosas pero el final de este también esta bueno
Ok?
@@NarCissisT789 i will still buy it tho only because i love the franchise haha. I love hunting all type of machines the game offer. So yeah i need this game too
@@yanipro22 si pienso que la gente que no les gusto el juego fueron gente que no tienen ps5 o ps4 pro. Dicen que la version normal del ps4 emula el juego como si fuera mierda.
@@TheLastProtheanJavik cuál el forbidden west o el zero dawn ?
Im really waiting for a „I‘m not Elisabeth, I‘m Aloy moment“
Even in the first one she and everyone else is just running with the notion that she is basically the same thing as Sobeck. I also find her callbacks to ES weird, just straight disrespect to Chad Rost as her real parent
4:20 - 5:29 this is so enlightening. Great characters, amazing script and story... omg and the combat! 10/10
sarcasm?
@@zarekbeck3358 :)
"woah, can't let him catch me" sneed and feed
Damn, I wonder how much you got paid for posting that.
@@Sacrilege7294 They don't pay me anything, but next time they'll send me other games for free so I can review. That's how it works!
Sylens is a real one for staying and helping against Nemesis.
Imagine if they go to space or even time travel
Good gameplay, but the 1st one's story and character development was WAAAAAY better.
Everyone is commenting on ALoy, Silens or the Zeniths, but let's take a moment to note that Zo is keeping up with the squad while Pregnant!!
0:16 _"Devils don't come from hell beneath us. They come from the sky."_
This scene still manages to be awesome even without the music
So basically the ending is just a teaser for a third game?! What a trash...
Loved the first game, but this story seems wierd and absolute garbage. How did they manage to turn this game into a X-Men/Scifi/whatever crossover?
I'm kinda disappointed.
But what about the open world and the combat? Isn't it impressive?
@@henrymugello3387 combat feels the same but with minor improvements and the world is good I guess but that won't cover up for this story.
@@bogymanthedark Why? What's wrong with it?
feels like I'm watching a bad marvel movie
The Eternals 🤣 And the Faces Looks Like Half Life -era
The game devs took a book from eternal
That's a way to compare.
You could have used another fucking thumbnail. Still playing the game and I cant understand why someone would make spoilers on a fucking thumbnail.
I have a theory about the next game, Sylens is only sticking around so he can potentially either control nemesis or merge with it for its vast knowledge and power. I don't trust that Aloy got through to him, there's just something about the way he looks at the hologram of nemesis' projection et the end there.
No one got through to him. He's still Sylens; I think he just realized it'd be boring alone on that ship (which he can still steal whenever he wants anyway). You may be right about Nemesis, too, but after so easily defeating the Zeniths, I doubt he cares to meet them again in Nemesis. Apollo's got more than enough to occupy him for life (and he's got copies on earth and on the Odyssey).
Errend, did you notice the scary red glow at the table? No way would you say it was over after passing by that.
Anyway, I hope the third and final Horizon comes out soon. I'm hoping they'll make a lion and tiger machine, hopefully as mount. Imagine riding through a jungle on a badass tiger machine. Maybe they could make a dragon machine or a Kraken machine, and give us a way to override while underwater. Would have loved to watch a Ripmaw tear apart those Burrowers in Vegas
you mean tideriper?
@@kratos57 Well, yeah, I would love to ride the Tideripper
i feel like they should have given Aloy and Beta more time together, because after that convo where Aloy showed Beta Rost, they IMMEDIATELY claimed each other as sisters when all they’ve done was dislike each other the whole game. and what makes it worst is that there’s no big moment where Aloy finally saves Beta after she went on and on about “saving her sister”, only to find her and immediately put her to work, and when Beta hugged her she was so lifeless. and i get it’s because Aloy found out some world ending news after saving the world TWICE, but still, the game built up the Aloy and Beta reunion only for it to be so lack luster
I was a bit overlevelled for this fight because I did a lot of side quests. I was level 45. Braced Shot with a maxed Glowblast Sharpshot Bow made all of the fights too easy, including this one. I played on Normal.
Yeah they should've added a level scale in this game to make all the machines scale to you, made the game easy on Hard mode for me, I did a decent amount of side quests but not a lot
Then play on very hard? I don't get people bitching about difficulty while playing on normal. smh
@@ivanmikulicic3676 whos bitching here goof, and I played Hard and nvr said I didn’t enjoy the game
Am I the only one who got to lvl 50 way before the end of the game? I did everything I could to take my time. When I wait for a game for this long, it's not to finish in three days x)
I was level 50 , it was a breeze
Stunning. Amazing cut scenes. From playstation 1 to the amazing power of playstation 5. An absolute pleasure from start to finish. Steve 👍
Recovering APOLLO back is definitely a satisfying moment for humanity. Earth is back where it left off for a thousand years.
Well, the ending is a bit... disappointing. And weird! A postapocalyptic game about hunting robots with bow & arrows suddenly took a wild turn into full sci-fi (with more emphasis on the fiction part) BS.
The first game was the peak, it only goes downhill from there - at least from story perspective. I´m glad i didn´t preorder this - in fact, since Cyberpunk 2077, i´m not preordering anything. It´s a bad habit, buying a promise instead of finished product.
Yeah, the first one is much better imo
Honestly I had headcannon of some guy surviving the post apocalypse with two of the old machines and built a Chinese dragon he named Ao Shin by hiding in a cauldron, and there was a space section where you flew to the odyssey on the dragon meant for space travel. I thought that sounded cooler than this.
The series has been hard fiction from the jump, the “science” behind the animals and machines continue to operate at max capacity without humans for 1000 years was never sound scientifically, it’s always been ridiculous
Wouldn’t it have been boring tho? If it was like the first game? Story plots need to change otherwise they get repetitive and boring. I would rather go down the path of surviving old ones and a supposedly indestructible threat instead of facing more and more robots. If you wanted an expansion or something similar to the 1st game then you can play the 1st game
The story as a whole was fine, but the ending and especially the final boss in this one were very dissapointing. The final boss of the first game was badass, this one.... not so much
Ugh this shit with Far Zenith ended up feeling like that one season of The 100. They hinted so heavily in HZD that Ted Faro was still somehow alive and behind the signal and then go with THIS goofy garbage? Who wants to bet Faro will show up in the third game as a literal deus ex machina to stop Nemesis (bargain bin name right there)
Honestly nemesis itself is kinda dumb. It kinda ruins the whole idea that apollo would have stopped people from making the same mistakes as faro basically making him right which disgusts me. Also I did like the theory of Faro cloning himself in the future similar to aloy and becoming the god of the new world with his copy of apollo. Finally nemesis is just a worse version of the faro plague in the first game the you're learning first hand what a threat the plague was to humanity and how tragic enduring victory and the idea of zero dawn was but nemesis feels like you're so detached from it that you don't really care almost like they felt the need to just up the anti just making a bigger badder threat. The faro plague should have remained the major threat of the series. I would have been fine with it if zenith had been the ones to awaken hades in an attempt to reset earth again for themselves or something but the main bad guy should have just been the still alive faro trying to wipe humanity out or control them just so no one knows of his crimes.
They didnt even give us a chance to kill faro, so sad
far zenith is supposed to parallel what human did. they created robots and destroyed the earth. far zenith tried to store data and destroyed their own planet
@@Lunk42 Oh my god. Even what you're written here is a better story then... whatever this was supposed to be. Rich awful arrogant Elon Musk-types who can fly; they even have the bald Professor-X expy. Blurgh. I preferred it in the original HZD when whatever sent the Signal was UNKNOWN and a complete mystery.
@@monsimix6839 Oh, he got his. He tried to make himself near-immortal like the Rich pric--err, I mean, the Zeniths... but got turned into an animalistic blob, instead. Pathetic.
I didn’t see Varl, I assume he died in game? The last thing I expected was Sylens at least assisting Alloy, anyway I don’t mind spoilers. The game unlocks for me in about 15 hours, I can’t wait to play it! Good video.
I was going to write the same… Hopefully he is still alive
@@fernandovillacis3728 I'm sorry
Good video? This ending is trash lol
@@omensoffate yes it is?
@Ryan Vetter No one even matters except Aloy in this game anyway, she's the savior and everyone else is incompetent.
No way Tilda is dead. This lady survived a terrorist attack as a child, survived the bot swarm, survived Nemesis when it destroyed Sirius, and as she says "always know your exists..."
Thank you! Thank you!! I absolutely always watch videos and read stuff on how the game ends before I play it. I applaud you. There is no such thing as spoilers.
Loved this game. Wasn't sure how they were gonna pull it off, because the first one blew me away so much. But damn, they improved on every aspect of the original. Not very often that I can say that about a franchise. Definitely need to see at least one more installment of Aloy's story.
I especially appreciate all the foreshadowing in Horizon 1. A lot of things that played a role in the story of Horizon 2 were already present in the 1st game - Tenakth & Utaru NPCs in side quests and mentions of the Forbidden West, the subordinate functions, the Thebes bunker, Ted's Omega Clearance, the Far Zenith, FZ's cloning technology, the Odyssey, Hades' Masters, the extinction signal, etc.
Kinda makes no sence that she says for the first time I feel like im not alone...I mean when was she ever alone? She always had friends and allys at her side, not to mention did she feel alone when Rost raised her?
She's a sociopath lol
After Rost died she has been alone 90% of the time. Sure, she met someone here and there but only for a bit of serious talk and not to have fun. After the ending of the first one it for even worse and she pretty much spent over 6 months completly alone.
Maybe because she felt like she wouldn't be carrying the burden of saving the world all alone...
Yes at this point, her friends are rost i thin meanless for her
It's unnatural there's no soundtrack in these scenes. It feels too quiet
I think it's muted
yeaaahh... sony copyright are really unnatural logarithm
The music was muted due to copyright I think...There was music when I played through this part
People are still wondering where is Sylens Iconic slave role
warp speed don’t rainbow read me
Somebody getting they back blown out quietly in the background 😂
I won't be complaining if I can obtain one of those suits, not gonna lie 😌😌
Just finished it a day ago and absolutely loved it and was very shocked
So the end of forbiddencwest is literally everyone betraying you? "Come join me alloy".. well now that she is dead "join me alloy"
When did she die?
😂 aloy just has good energy
How so? All her friends are still there, even Sylens, surprisingly so. Like he had a real change of heart and attachment to Aloy and her friends after all that they went through. The only one who really betrayed her was Tilda, who lied to her about why the zeniths were leaving their planet and proceeded to try to forcefully take her on the ship and start a new world.
The only person who betrayed you in the ending was Tilda who has been stated to be suspicious from her first appearance.
I like Tilda ,kinda hope she didn’t die and stay with aloy to help them
Not gonna lie. The game looks great. And the combat looks fun. However, this final boss seems lackluster; and the story kinda seems like it went generic sci fi.
Exactly. What is this? Just seems dumb, like a parody or something
Because it was not science fiction with the dinosaur machines?
Yup I had a feeling too unfortunately the first game was solid but was pretty trash in a lot of aspects
Combat looks fun? Are we watching the same video? The pen-ultimate boss literally glitched at the 5 minute mark. Even the final battle is nothing more than rolling and shooting arrows. Not to mention that there's more cutscenes than gameplay in this video.
Combat looks like trash.
@@Naruxos07 yea it’s the same shit from the first game lol first game was aight alot of the story I just skipped through cus it was pretty uninteresting for a LONG time last boss from the first game is better
I hope they eventually put a new game plus on it.