@chadfredrick1519 something else i think backs this up is the fact that Harrison's daughter was nothing like her father or twin brother. She's seemingly a very nice and caring person, so that tells me she wasn't abused. So, although while being twins, they each had totally different childhoods.
@1neOfN0ne He builds him the library even though he knows he hates surprises and yet believes he would like it and not like it. Which speaks to how convoluted his love is for his father and possibly the paradoxical nature of his father's sexuality?
The part of the ending that confused me was that a different actress was playing Zsophia at the end (that wasn’t that baffling, 20 years had passed, an older actress would be appropriate), but they had the same actress who played young Zsophia playing her daughter. It took me a moment to realize that Zsophia was even the character speaking at the Biannale
Felicity Jones’s character writes to Zsofia during the third act that her daughter looks EXACTLY like her. The same actress playing Zsophia’s daughter is a nod to that letter earlier in the film. The director also did this in his other film Vox Lux.
It definitely is Zsofia. If you want this clarified, the script is available on the internet. He does the same thing (with I think the same actress?) in Vox Lux. It's a sort of Corbet trope. Watch Vox Lux, and it'll seem less weird. Also, I have to say I loved seeing a new actress playing an older person rather than cgi or prosthetics. It helps make it feel more like a film from the vista vision era.
@@csabaimatethis is incorrect. The script is available on the Internet. It is definitely Zsofia. Also, she says, "Uncle, you and Aunt Erzsebet once spoke for me, I speak for you now, and I am honoured.".
Holocaust survivors rely on the next generation to carry their legacy and their lessons. That is why Zsofia is who explains the Van Buren project at the end of the film. And why the film starts and ends with her. While, yes, Laszlo has to endure capitalism, he uses it to manipulate Harrison and get the last laugh. He uses Harrison’s money to build a memorial to his time spent in Buchenwald (I think it is really imperative to understand that Buchenwald was a men’s camp with rampant sexual violence and a camp where social elites and academics were sent to). And this community space for the Americans who tolerate and hate him and other immigrants will be where they worship and convene- in the replication of a barracks.
In Hungarian, the name "Erzsébet" (the Hungarian equivalent of Elizabeth) is pronounced as: "AIR-zheh-bet" Here’s a breakdown: "AIR": Like the English word "air." "zheh": The "zs" sounds like the "s" in "measure" or "pleasure." "bet": Pronounced as in "bet" (short and crisp). The emphasis is usually on the first syllable in Hungarian, so it's "AIR-zheh-bet."
I thought we were going to see he had hung himself or shot himself and probably most viewers would think the same. I believe the proper term for the ending is BITTER SWEET. Not quite bleak but also not quite celebratory.
I thought the son felt shame out of projection. He doesnt rape Zsofia?? Or was i reading too much into the lake scene, when she comes to the group, sort of readjusting her clothes. Idk
she was wearing a bathing suit by the lake and in the next shot she’s adjusting the new clothes she just put on. but the way scene is shot definitely feels like it’s saying he raped her. so i’m also confused on it
Architects build destinations. It’s about making something last longer than you do. Which is the same as the immigrant story. All work (the journey) doesn’t matter as long as a legacy stands the test of time.
The movie is sad and brutally depressing. Brody is miserable and cries for three and a half hours . The movie accomplishes nothing. The rape scene at the end is the last ….you got to be kidding me .. really that had to happen . Post war depression and misery at its worst . Terrible feeling when the movie ends . Wish I didn’t see it .
I really really REALLY dislike that last line, about the destination surpassing the importance of the journey. Did Zofia and Laszlo have basically the same lives because they both just ended up in Jerusalem? And, on the Jerusalem thing, it does give a hint of "whatever atrocities are done in an effort to make Jerusalem are permitted". Like, who really cares if the journey includes genocide, the destination is a safe Jewish state and that's enough.
What are you talking about a genocide ? The movie doesn’t portray a genocide at all, and the Jewish state certainly has never carried one out, even thought lots of anti-Semites like to parrot that lie, just like they did in 1930s Germany
The sad reality is a lot of settlers did not (and do not care) about the atrocities. Fyi the director is atheist and supports Palestinian self determination
I really think the bizarrely outrageous synth pop (or whatever) music really undercut that glib assertion she made about the destination more important than the journey. It was so jarring. Even the whole idea of a retrospective glossed over the details and struggle of their lives. It was a fascinating conflict to me.
I think the film is questioning whether or not it is true that the destination is what’s important. It reminds me a lot of whiplash’s ending. In both cases it ends with artists completing works of art that they poured there souls into achieving greatness but it came at expense of there own personal happiness. both films aren’t taking a side on the issue but rather asking the audience to decide if in the end it was worth what the protagonist went through.
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I think Harrison had abused his son too and that's why it seemed as if his son knew she was telling the truth.
I didn't even think about that but it definitely makes sense and provides insight into his questionable behavior throughout the film.
@chadfredrick1519 something else i think backs this up is the fact that Harrison's daughter was nothing like her father or twin brother. She's seemingly a very nice and caring person, so that tells me she wasn't abused. So, although while being twins, they each had totally different childhoods.
exactly when i saw kid running upstairs i was sure about this.
@1neOfN0ne
He builds him the library even though he knows he hates surprises and yet believes he would like it and not like it. Which speaks to how convoluted his love is for his father and possibly the paradoxical nature of his father's sexuality?
@@MadWizard89this! The back and forth of it all seem to visually convey that
Her being mute then
She gets to speak at the end is powerful
The part of the ending that confused me was that a different actress was playing Zsophia at the end (that wasn’t that baffling, 20 years had passed, an older actress would be appropriate), but they had the same actress who played young Zsophia playing her daughter. It took me a moment to realize that Zsophia was even the character speaking at the Biannale
confused me as well
No, the lady who gave the speech was only reading Zsofia’s words to the public, while Zsófia listened.
Felicity Jones’s character writes to Zsofia during the third act that her daughter looks EXACTLY like her.
The same actress playing Zsophia’s daughter is a nod to that letter earlier in the film.
The director also did this in his other film Vox Lux.
It definitely is Zsofia. If you want this clarified, the script is available on the internet. He does the same thing (with I think the same actress?) in Vox Lux. It's a sort of Corbet trope. Watch Vox Lux, and it'll seem less weird. Also, I have to say I loved seeing a new actress playing an older person rather than cgi or prosthetics. It helps make it feel more like a film from the vista vision era.
@@csabaimatethis is incorrect. The script is available on the Internet. It is definitely Zsofia. Also, she says, "Uncle, you and Aunt Erzsebet once spoke for me, I speak for you now, and I am honoured.".
Holocaust survivors rely on the next generation to carry their legacy and their lessons. That is why Zsofia is who explains the Van Buren project at the end of the film. And why the film starts and ends with her. While, yes, Laszlo has to endure capitalism, he uses it to manipulate Harrison and get the last laugh. He uses Harrison’s money to build a memorial to his time spent in Buchenwald (I think it is really imperative to understand that Buchenwald was a men’s camp with rampant sexual violence and a camp where social elites and academics were sent to). And this community space for the Americans who tolerate and hate him and other immigrants will be where they worship and convene- in the replication of a barracks.
In Hungarian, the name "Erzsébet" (the Hungarian equivalent of Elizabeth) is pronounced as:
"AIR-zheh-bet"
Here’s a breakdown:
"AIR": Like the English word "air."
"zheh": The "zs" sounds like the "s" in "measure" or "pleasure."
"bet": Pronounced as in "bet" (short and crisp).
The emphasis is usually on the first syllable in Hungarian, so it's "AIR-zheh-bet."
I thought we were going to see he had hung himself or shot himself and probably most viewers would think the same.
I believe the proper term for the ending is BITTER SWEET. Not quite bleak but also not quite celebratory.
I thought the son felt shame out of projection. He doesnt rape Zsofia?? Or was i reading too much into the lake scene, when she comes to the group, sort of readjusting her clothes. Idk
she was wearing a bathing suit by the lake and in the next shot she’s adjusting the new clothes she just put on. but the way scene is shot definitely feels like it’s saying he raped her. so i’m also confused on it
I think we can summarise the whole film with, ‘Art is in the eye of the beholder’.
Or more specifically with this movie
"Art is in the eye of the butt holder"
Architects build destinations. It’s about making something last longer than you do. Which is the same as the immigrant story. All work (the journey) doesn’t matter as long as a legacy stands the test of time.
It was great to see Daniel Radcliffe playing his niece
Lol
The movie is sad and brutally depressing. Brody is miserable and cries for three and a half hours . The movie accomplishes nothing. The rape scene at the end is the last ….you got to be kidding me .. really that had to happen . Post war depression and misery at its worst . Terrible feeling when the movie ends . Wish I didn’t see it .
Harrison’s ending is similar to the movie L'Avventura
Bro explained nothing
I really really REALLY dislike that last line, about the destination surpassing the importance of the journey. Did Zofia and Laszlo have basically the same lives because they both just ended up in Jerusalem? And, on the Jerusalem thing, it does give a hint of "whatever atrocities are done in an effort to make Jerusalem are permitted". Like, who really cares if the journey includes genocide, the destination is a safe Jewish state and that's enough.
What are you talking about a genocide ? The movie doesn’t portray a genocide at all, and the Jewish state certainly has never carried one out, even thought lots of anti-Semites like to parrot that lie, just like they did in 1930s Germany
The sad reality is a lot of settlers did not (and do not care) about the atrocities. Fyi the director is atheist and supports Palestinian self determination
Zofia was speaking for Laszlo at the end, I don't really know or feel that those were his true thoughts at that point.
I really think the bizarrely outrageous synth pop (or whatever) music really undercut that glib assertion she made about the destination more important than the journey. It was so jarring. Even the whole idea of a retrospective glossed over the details and struggle of their lives. It was a fascinating conflict to me.
I think the film is questioning whether or not it is true that the destination is what’s important. It reminds me a lot of whiplash’s ending. In both cases it ends with artists completing works of art that they poured there souls into achieving greatness but it came at expense of there own personal happiness. both films aren’t taking a side on the issue but rather asking the audience to decide if in the end it was worth what the protagonist went through.
I think Harrison was last seen on Epstein Island.
More clearer 👎clearer 👍
Movie was MID
I can't imagine why anyone who would use the term MID would even want to watch it. But that is truly a piercing insight.
@ your name is Chad after all