Lucas Pinto well it’s mosty due to the Genesis dying off around the release of Sonic 3. The SNES began surging thanks in no small part to Donkey Kong Country and with the Saturn out overseas and the PlayStation on the horizon Sonic 3 didn’t have as long of a chance to sell as 1,2 and Aladdin did.
It's funny how Sonic Xtreme was axed early in development & was never released, yet produced one of the catchiest songs in sonic history; Space Queens.
Oh man, this was such a delight to watch! I’m a diehard fan of Innoventions, and always had a soft spot for Sega’s segment of it. As you mentioned, the entire exhibit was overhauled for the Dreamcast area. However, that’s not entirely the case. In 1998, Disney held a meeting with the sponsors regarding Innoventions’ poor layout. Sega actually had their exhibit shifted west as part of the redesign of Innoventions, and Lutron took over the original Sega showfloor. The segment of Innoventions you mentioned has indeed been destroyed, but Sega’s area was in a different segment of the building which is set to begin demolition this Sunday. While that area closed in 2015, Disney used it for a few months as a Mickey Mouse meet and greet in the spot where the Dreamcast displays used to be. The area was still architecturally reminiscent of it’s former tenant. I happened to be the last one out of the building before it closed permanently! I know some people who used to work in the area and have confirmed to me that select Sega items are still in the Innoventions basement, some of which you did indeed show! One last little tidbit to mention is that Sega never really left Innoventions in spirit. When Sega pulled out of Innoventions after the Dreamcast’s failure, the shells of the exhibits were left intact. Disney actually took a few of the Dreamcast displays, repainted them, and put PS3s in them which were on display until 2015! I happen to have a piece of one of the displays in my private collection, which I’m super proud of. Sorry to ramble on, but I did enjoy the video! Nice work!
My friend went to Epcot in 1995 and FREAKED OUT when she went to the Sega room. Especially the fact there was Knuckles. (She had a crush on him.) That and Body Wars were the best parts of her trip.
NiGHTS?! Oh my gosh that's INCREDIBLE! It is so rare to see anything genuinely NiGHTS related connected with Sega. I mean, the games exist but some comics (even though they had spelling errors) and the plush toys are extremely hard to find. These days NiGHTS is almost unheard of and that's a shame. But to think NiGHTS got attention like THAT in a place like that is truly incredible! (At 12:19) A big statue and everything! Thank you so much for sharing! This really made my day. :)
I remember going with my family to Disney's Epcot back in 2006. Thought Sega World Park was gone by that point but I had a really fun time at that park. Amazingly unlike the Sega World London and Sega World Australasia both failed miserably Sega World Disney succeeded and lasted for a seven years. Not that bad I say.
I appreciate this video’s historic look at Sega Innoventions, but a large portion of it contains video from my family’s trip to Epcot in 1994. This video was first published in my series “My Retro Life” and your video makes no mention nor gives credit. Not pleased about that. I wish you would have reached out to me for permission and I gladly would have given it as long as the source was credited
Ok so I just went through the video credits and... I'm quite horrified. The video in question was sourced from "Pixel Game Squad". I honestly don't know how I've missed it from the credits. It should have been in the credits and I can't apologise enough for it not being listed there. The only thing I can do aside from offer my apologies is to link to it in the video description. Again I can't apologise enough for it not being there. I honestly don't know how I missed including it.
@@BadnikMechanic I appreciate you responding and admitting a mistake was made. I’m the author of that video. My series “My Retro Life” aired on Pixel Game Squad for a season before I started a dedicated channel for it (which you see I am posting from) No worries, and if you can credit in the description Innoventions Footage by Tyler Esposito from “My Retro Life” and link the source video that would be great
I'll do that asap. It's currently 3am where I am right now and just quickly added a small bit in before you replied since I'm on mobile. But I can add that too if you'd prefer.
@@BadnikMechanic Thanks man appreciate your eagerness to give credit. Yes, if you can credit Tyler Esposito's series "My Retro Life" that would be ideal.
The merchandise you could buy wasn’t available in the park. In the SEGA exhibit there were telephones that were directly connected to a SEGA hotline. You would pick them up and order the merchandise you saw in the case or in a catalog they had next to the phones. The Genesis, 32x, Nomad, Saturn, Dreamcast, and the Pico all were on display at some point in the exhibit. Game Gears we’re hooked up to giant monitors. You could look at the unit itself or at the monitor, but the idea was that others walking by could see what was being played on the Game Gear.
I'm going to Epcot in a couple of months, wish I could have seen some of these memories. Oh well, at least the Japan Pavilion will keep me entertained.
Definitely make sure not to overlook The Land Pavilion. Sure it gives off the vibe of a 90s mall food court [which is part of the reason it's one of my favorite Pavilions], but it houses the only original EPCOT attraction other than Spaceship Earth that still remains at the park, Living With The Land. And if a slow boat ride isn't your thing, Soarin' is truly unmissable. Not to mention the actual food in the food court lookin area is delicious. And make sure to go back after the massive reboot currently underway, if you get the chance. The only time I was ever able to go was just before, so I'm excited to revisit my favorite theme park on [Spaceship] Earth once it's been overhauled.
an epcot cast member who definitely isnt me is proud to report that the sonic painting is still in the tunnels, right next to an equally faded figment painting. thanks for the informative video! i love epcot history but still had no clue this existed
It's so interesting seeing this now. I used to work at Innoventions before it permanently closed, and in the downstairs area where we held all our training the sonic from 9:03 is still there. Even with the construction the underground areas haven't been touched. Also, Disney doesn't with hold paychecks from cast members who don't return their costumes, but a portion of their last check is taken out for payment of the garment.
I missed this video, but my very good friend just brought up the fact that she visited epcot as a kid and met a Sonic mascot there 🤣 What great timing to watch it!!
This just popped up in my feed lol. I went to Disney world in January 1998 and went to the sega display. Got to play nights and Daytona. I’m pretty sure that display is what made me buy a Saturn in my older years just from pure nostalgia.
Disney had several gamedev research divisions and game studios over the years. They have acquired Lucas Arts several years ago and shut them down. They released Panda3D game engine to the public, and maintained it for close to a decade, before donating it to Carnegie Mellon University. Disney Interactive and Avalanche Software were their in-house game companies. Now the former is massively deflated and the latter was shut down. Disney Infinity was an in-house production.
I wondered if someone would mention this. Originally this video was going to be about all the times that Sega and Disney partnered up, but there was so music regarding just this one attraction I thought it would be best just to focus on this one thing.
I went there in October 1997 with my family when I was in the 4th Grade! I felt I had died and gone to Sega heaven! Went back in 1999 and saw the Dreamcast smaller renovated area too! I have about 3 pictures of the attraction from 1997. Let me know where I should post the pictures and feel free to ask any questions! My highlights there were definitely the Sonic statues and decorations, playing Sonic R and playing Vectorman 2! Also just having my whole family enjoying the video game splendor!
There's a few discords and Twitter accounts that log it. The best fansite for logging this stuff would be Sonic retro but even then it's not amazing for stuff like this.
@@unwelldanny7108 I think I remember playing as Knuckles when I played it at the display. Wonders of Life...was that the ride with Bill Nye or was it Martin Short? Oh Body Wars was that 3D bumpy ride thing right?
Side note about that sonic Sat-AM display. I know you mentioned the display didn’t match with the animation style the show used at that time and that the show was already on the air while that display was up making it odd...funny thing though. When Sonic X-Treme was in development, in one of the project false starts there was a version of the game that looked like it was done by the Comix Zone team that matches that style. The working title, according to the guy who made the X-Treme documentary (MiiUMii2 I think) was simply Sonic The Hedgehog and had the same font and lettering as that display... Or maybe my memory is bad, timelines altering, etc
We'd be able to step into Sonic's world and explore places like Green Hill, Angel Island, Station Square, etc. Ooh, and maybe even get to meet Sonic and his friends!
Get the first issue of Sonic Super Digest. The first page is a letter from Sonic thanking you for buying his new comic and explaining what’s in it, signed by the Blue Blur himself. It’s one of the Archie comics, too: bonus!
Coincidentally, I was actually at Epcot when this video was uploaded! Unfortunately, the major revamp is true. If this entire museum was being taken down later, I would've totally taken a bunch of pictures and videos to see if I could find any Sega World related items left!
Man, I went to Epcot in 2007 and I had no idea that there used to be a SEGA section, or that the Japan section had Sonic merch... Unless this was a recent addition.
MrRetroGeek From everything I’ve ever heard, it did not. In fact, it didn’t ever really see much Saturn at all. They mainly focused on showcasing Genesis consoles, their variants, and add ons in addition to the arcade cabinets. There was Saturn stuff there for Nights, but never X-Treme as far as I know.
Sonic Xtreme was never playable at EPCOT. I live very close to Walt Disney World and have had an annual pass all my life. I remember the whole SEGA area in INNOVENTIONS very well. It was amazing for a SEGA fan. I played so many new SEGA games at EPCOT for the very first time. I have a ton of pictures from the exhibits too.
I was wondering. In the video I mention the display case and how it's not clear if you could buy those items? Any chance you could confirm that? Also any chance you could upload the photos?
Badnik Mechanic Read my other post in regard to how merchandise was handled. I’ll see if I can find the photos. I think I know where the photos from the Dreamcast display are. Anything earlier than that I will have to dig. Is there a specific place the photos should be uploaded for all to see? I went on the very last day of operation for the exhibit and photographed every inch I could. It was sad. SEGA had been inside Innoventions for almost 10 years. SEGA was no longer a console company. It was the end of an era, and a sad end at that.
Nicola Ross I have the ones from the Dreamcast exhibit. Haven’t found any from when INNOVENTIONS opened at EPCOT ‘94. Any idea where I can upload them?
I heard about VR theme parks in Dubai but I don’t live anywhere near there. They actually did license actual gaming properties including Gears of War and (I think) Final Fantasy. That all said it offered the same experience as a very expensive Dave and Busters.
I wonder if somewhere someone out there not only has the giant knuckles statue somewhere; but it's surrounded by many other knuckles toys, figures and mini statues as a sort of knuckles tribe in their room. No Broddas I do not do da reference; because.... I'm rougher than the rest of them, the best of them!
My best friend (who went to Epcot while this was still around) would pay money for that Knuckles statue, because she has been a fan of him since his debut.
My favorite theme park ever, and one of my favorite game publishers ever. If only I could go back in time to experience that which existed before even my birth. I'd be completely indecisive whether to bolt for Innoventions or Wonders of Life first.
Sega & Disney Were Like Brothers. Especially In the 1990s. Before Sonic 1, Mickey Mouse Helped The Sega Genisis To Grow to Popularity With Castle Of Illusion. Along With The Other Three Games that came after sonic 1, such as Quackshot With Donald Duck (Wich Was Another Big Genisis Classic), World Of Illusion With Both Mickey And Donald (The Best of All Three Games), And Trust Me Sega Really Cared For The Games With Mickey, Wich Was Also The Reason Disney Agreed to let Sega Experience More with Disney Properties, That Leaded To The Alladin Game, Mickey Mania and more, And Not Only The Games, When Sega Wanted To Enter The Machine Market, Disney Also once again Helped Sega By Letting Them Make Mickey Mouse, Goofy, Donald, Chip n Dale and Almost Every Disney Charachter Plushies for their Sega UFO Claws, Wich Sega Was really happy off. Also Toys and Figures of Disney Charachters were Agreed, Heck!! Sega Even Released Mickey Mouse Figures Of The 1920s Mickey and Other mickeys With Mickey Mouse's 90th Anniversary in 2019. So that's Saying That The Relation Between Sega & Disney Is Still Strong Today.
Dang it! I went to Disney World the first time in January 2002. I'm assuming it was already closed a few months before then. It's kind of a bummer I never got to go!
Given Disney's track record with spinning platforms, that most people didn't even know it moved doesn't shock me. There are actually a lot of animatronics at Disney with features that are either costly or structurally busted, or turned out to be otherwise unwise to constantly run in a way that wasn't foreseen ahead of time, so nobody ever sees them after a certain point and many people forget those details over time. (See: Boulders falling in the Indiana Jones ride, the Yeti, the spinning showgirls fountain platform, etc etc) But for some reason these multilayered spinning platforms never seem to work out for them for long at all even compared to other things they've done. It's really cool someone managed to catch it on camera, because it's entirely possible it really didn't move for very long at all!
There is some other footage of this found at the end of an Australian copy of the 101 Dalmatians VHS. I have a copy and have the means of capturing it and uploading it, if anyone's interested.
Alright, let's do this. I'll post a link here as a reply. If I remember correctly, it featured the variant of the big statue with the flat ring. I guess we'll see. I live in Australia though and it's 1am, haha. I'll do it tomorrow if I can. Another great video, by the way.
@@BadnikMechanic OK, so I ignored how late it is and captured/uploaded it anyway. It's on my other (not-so-great) channel, here's the link: ruclips.net/video/EkT-fGYHWf4/видео.html
I remember going to Florida's version of Disney's Innoventions with my family during our vacation years ago. When I first went in there, I didn't realize they had Sega games like the Sonic ones. They even played the Sonic SatAM cartoon in it. I think the episode it was showing was from season 2 called "Game Guy".
7th grade field trip in 94. I could have stayed in there all day. Each Sega was set to a timer and reset after a few mins. Playing Sonic 2 and using the codes, I had just enough time to beat the game. Good times.
The game you called Sonic Extreme, seems to now be called Sonic 3D Blast. I left the comment "not sure" a min ago. I knew it as Sonic 3D. It seemed that sega was trying to decide between if they'd publish it on the Genesis or wait for the still WIP Saturn. & while thats just opinion of someone who tested it.. Imo the guarded secret was that it had a fairly high chance to cause dizziness. (3d game, on genesis, in mid 90s) otherwise it was an intriguing albeit overhyped game. The overhype is also perhaps why sega considered saving Sonic 3D for the Saturn to not disappoint expectations. (tarnish brand) Anyway, thanks for the research & would be tite for innoventions to come back one day. Didnt realize how cool it all was or that future land would be gone so soon.
A weird idea I’ve had for a while is Disney getting the rights to a NiGHTS ride and turning journey into imagination into some sort of NiGHTS ride. Idk I think it’d be really cool
Interesting that I should watch two videos in two days dealing with Sega World. The other was about the one in Sydney. I think given I was not a Sega kid, part of the great appeal of this with all the Sonicness and new tech would have been lost on me. The ider of Innovations sounds pretty cool, although by the time it opened, I'd stopped going to Disney as I no longer had passes. But other then the lure of Daytona USA sadly this wouldn't have been my stomping ground.
This would have been so cool if they kept this. I don't remember any of it, I guess I didn't go to innovations much during those years. Cant imagine sega systems being in all the arcades too.
Star Wars had exhibits at Disney parks called Star Tours. Later, Disney bought out Star Wars. Indiana Jones had an exhibit called "Indiana Jones Adventures" Disney has bought out Indiana Jones. Disney once had a Sonic exhibit. ... Uh oh.
Fun fact my dad actually took the sonic at 14:54 home and my sisters used to play on it before the head and body got moldy and had to be destroyed but the feet and hands could still be out there 😌
This is why I find it kinda ironic that Nintendo partnered with Universal and made Super Nintendo World. To me, it shows that even though Sega and Nintendo tend to work together now, theres still a little bit of rivalry.
Hey badnik, I don't know if you'll see or respond to this but has there been any new info on that giant sonic adventure statue? I really would hate for something so cool to be destroyed.
I have access to a time machine...
Wanna go back and come to Epcot with me?
Yep
Sure
Yes
Bet
Hell yeah!
Fun Common Fact: Aladdin is the third best selling Genesis game of all time behind only Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2 respectively.
... That is indeed a very fun and interesting fact!
Preatty amazing considering the Sonic games were pack-in games!
@Lucas Pinto Yes, technically it did.
Lucas Pinto Yep
Lucas Pinto well it’s mosty due to the Genesis dying off around the release of Sonic 3. The SNES began surging thanks in no small part to Donkey Kong Country and with the Saturn out overseas and the PlayStation on the horizon Sonic 3 didn’t have as long of a chance to sell as 1,2 and Aladdin did.
It's funny how Sonic Xtreme was axed early in development & was never released, yet produced one of the catchiest songs in sonic history; Space Queens.
Oh nice
Oh man, this was such a delight to watch! I’m a diehard fan of Innoventions, and always had a soft spot for Sega’s segment of it. As you mentioned, the entire exhibit was overhauled for the Dreamcast area. However, that’s not entirely the case. In 1998, Disney held a meeting with the sponsors regarding Innoventions’ poor layout. Sega actually had their exhibit shifted west as part of the redesign of Innoventions, and Lutron took over the original Sega showfloor. The segment of Innoventions you mentioned has indeed been destroyed, but Sega’s area was in a different segment of the building which is set to begin demolition this Sunday. While that area closed in 2015, Disney used it for a few months as a Mickey Mouse meet and greet in the spot where the Dreamcast displays used to be. The area was still architecturally reminiscent of it’s former tenant. I happened to be the last one out of the building before it closed permanently! I know some people who used to work in the area and have confirmed to me that select Sega items are still in the Innoventions basement, some of which you did indeed show! One last little tidbit to mention is that Sega never really left Innoventions in spirit. When Sega pulled out of Innoventions after the Dreamcast’s failure, the shells of the exhibits were left intact. Disney actually took a few of the Dreamcast displays, repainted them, and put PS3s in them which were on display until 2015! I happen to have a piece of one of the displays in my private collection, which I’m super proud of. Sorry to ramble on, but I did enjoy the video! Nice work!
No this was great! Love finding out additional info like this!
How you get your hands on a display I live sega and innoventions and think there cool
My friend went to Epcot in 1995 and FREAKED OUT when she went to the Sega room. Especially the fact there was Knuckles. (She had a crush on him.) That and Body Wars were the best parts of her trip.
Crush? 😬😭
Oh no 🤣
I was hoping Lego would realise some sonic movie Lego sets or have a poly bag of teen sonic or baby sonic or at least an eggman with his egg bots.
everywhere I go, I see your face.
@@LittleBlueYT must be pure coincidence.
@Dean Marks That'd be hilarious, especially considering Sonic can't swim.
@Dean Marks and you need to build to save him......
Knuckles: HEY!
@@edgelord8337 They are making Lego sets just not from the movie
I think this may be my favourite of your documentaries since the Die Hard one. Awesome job as always.
Thank you!
And yay someone watched the die hard documentary!
NiGHTS?! Oh my gosh that's INCREDIBLE! It is so rare to see anything genuinely NiGHTS related connected with Sega. I mean, the games exist but some comics (even though they had spelling errors) and the plush toys are extremely hard to find. These days NiGHTS is almost unheard of and that's a shame. But to think NiGHTS got attention like THAT in a place like that is truly incredible! (At 12:19) A big statue and everything!
Thank you so much for sharing! This really made my day. :)
I remember going with my family to Disney's Epcot back in 2006. Thought Sega World Park was gone by that point but I had a really fun time at that park. Amazingly unlike the Sega World London and Sega World Australasia both failed miserably Sega World Disney succeeded and lasted for a seven years. Not that bad I say.
I appreciate this video’s historic look at Sega Innoventions, but a large portion of it contains video from my family’s trip to Epcot in 1994. This video was first published in my series “My Retro Life” and your video makes no mention nor gives credit. Not pleased about that. I wish you would have reached out to me for permission and I gladly would have given it as long as the source was credited
Ok so I just went through the video credits and... I'm quite horrified.
The video in question was sourced from "Pixel Game Squad". I honestly don't know how I've missed it from the credits. It should have been in the credits and I can't apologise enough for it not being listed there.
The only thing I can do aside from offer my apologies is to link to it in the video description.
Again I can't apologise enough for it not being there. I honestly don't know how I missed including it.
@@BadnikMechanic I appreciate you responding and admitting a mistake was made. I’m the author of that video. My series “My Retro Life” aired on Pixel Game Squad for a season before I started a dedicated channel for it (which you see I am posting from) No worries, and if you can credit in the description Innoventions Footage by Tyler Esposito from “My Retro Life” and link the source video that would be great
I'll do that asap.
It's currently 3am where I am right now and just quickly added a small bit in before you replied since I'm on mobile. But I can add that too if you'd prefer.
@@BadnikMechanic Thanks man appreciate your eagerness to give credit. Yes, if you can credit Tyler Esposito's series "My Retro Life" that would be ideal.
Man, the 90s and early 2000s were fun times. Wish I lived in America during the heyday of theme parks and arcades.
i wish i even EXISTED during then
Well, Super Nintendo World is coming.
The merchandise you could buy wasn’t available in the park. In the SEGA exhibit there were telephones that were directly connected to a SEGA hotline. You would pick them up and order the merchandise you saw in the case or in a catalog they had next to the phones. The Genesis, 32x, Nomad, Saturn, Dreamcast, and the Pico all were on display at some point in the exhibit. Game Gears we’re hooked up to giant monitors. You could look at the unit itself or at the monitor, but the idea was that others walking by could see what was being played on the Game Gear.
I'm going to Epcot in a couple of months, wish I could have seen some of these memories. Oh well, at least the Japan Pavilion will keep me entertained.
Definitely make sure not to overlook The Land Pavilion. Sure it gives off the vibe of a 90s mall food court [which is part of the reason it's one of my favorite Pavilions], but it houses the only original EPCOT attraction other than Spaceship Earth that still remains at the park, Living With The Land. And if a slow boat ride isn't your thing, Soarin' is truly unmissable. Not to mention the actual food in the food court lookin area is delicious. And make sure to go back after the massive reboot currently underway, if you get the chance. The only time I was ever able to go was just before, so I'm excited to revisit my favorite theme park on [Spaceship] Earth once it's been overhauled.
The Japan pavilion doesn't have Touhou. Imagine if Disney knew what Touhou was.
an epcot cast member who definitely isnt me is proud to report that the sonic painting is still in the tunnels, right next to an equally faded figment painting. thanks for the informative video! i love epcot history but still had no clue this existed
Cool!
It's so interesting seeing this now. I used to work at Innoventions before it permanently closed, and in the downstairs area where we held all our training the sonic from 9:03 is still there. Even with the construction the underground areas haven't been touched. Also, Disney doesn't with hold paychecks from cast members who don't return their costumes, but a portion of their last check is taken out for payment of the garment.
Was Sonic's Schoolhouse going to be in the preschool area?
Probably.
Those kids would never be the same.
@@BadnikMechanic that would be ingraved in their minds
I missed this video, but my very good friend just brought up the fact that she visited epcot as a kid and met a Sonic mascot there 🤣 What great timing to watch it!!
thanks so much for putting this together. I remember visiting the 1999-2001 dreamcast section!
This just popped up in my feed lol.
I went to Disney world in January 1998 and went to the sega display.
Got to play nights and Daytona.
I’m pretty sure that display is what made me buy a Saturn in my older years just from pure nostalgia.
I remember playing sonic 06 at Disneyland and wondering when the game would release. Didn't realize it turned out to be a broken game.
Great video! I visited when it was Dreamcast themed. I remember wanting to stay there but the park was closing lol
YES! I've been waiting for you to cover this. I've been wanting to learn more about this subject for a while.
Disney had several gamedev research divisions and game studios over the years.
They have acquired Lucas Arts several years ago and shut them down.
They released Panda3D game engine to the public, and maintained it for close to a decade, before donating it to Carnegie Mellon University.
Disney Interactive and Avalanche Software were their in-house game companies. Now the former is massively deflated and the latter was shut down. Disney Infinity was an in-house production.
Don't forget Sonic was in both Disney Wreck It Ralph's films in 2012 and 2018
I wondered if someone would mention this.
Originally this video was going to be about all the times that Sega and Disney partnered up, but there was so music regarding just this one attraction I thought it would be best just to focus on this one thing.
I went there in October 1997 with my family when I was in the 4th Grade! I felt I had died and gone to Sega heaven! Went back in 1999 and saw the Dreamcast smaller renovated area too! I have about 3 pictures of the attraction from 1997. Let me know where I should post the pictures and feel free to ask any questions! My highlights there were definitely the Sonic statues and decorations, playing Sonic R and playing Vectorman 2! Also just having my whole family enjoying the video game splendor!
Best way is probably to tweet them to me.
My Twitter is in the video description.
Or email them. Email is in my Twitter profile.
@@BadnikMechanic Okay I can do that. Is there a Sonic fan site where people are collecting their images and videos together about the attraction?
There's a few discords and Twitter accounts that log it.
The best fansite for logging this stuff would be Sonic retro but even then it's not amazing for stuff like this.
@@unwelldanny7108 I think I remember playing as Knuckles when I played it at the display. Wonders of Life...was that the ride with Bill Nye or was it Martin Short? Oh Body Wars was that 3D bumpy ride thing right?
Wow this is great! I never knew this! Thanks for an interesting watch as always
Side note about that sonic Sat-AM display. I know you mentioned the display didn’t match with the animation style the show used at that time and that the show was already on the air while that display was up making it odd...funny thing though. When Sonic X-Treme was in development, in one of the project false starts there was a version of the game that looked like it was done by the Comix Zone team that matches that style. The working title, according to the guy who made the X-Treme documentary (MiiUMii2 I think) was simply Sonic The Hedgehog and had the same font and lettering as that display...
Or maybe my memory is bad, timelines altering, etc
Imagine if a Sega land has the same Close to $2 billion dollar budget that Star Wars Galaxies edge had
We'd be able to step into Sonic's world and explore places like Green Hill, Angel Island, Station Square, etc.
Ooh, and maybe even get to meet Sonic and his friends!
WE NEED SONIC AUTOGRAPH! WE WANT IT IN OUR HOUSE!
Get the first issue of Sonic Super Digest. The first page is a letter from Sonic thanking you for buying his new comic and explaining what’s in it, signed by the Blue Blur himself. It’s one of the Archie comics, too: bonus!
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Wait, he has his own SIGNATURE?
@@Angie2343 Yeah. It’s only a printed one but hey, Sonic “signed” something!
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial He IS real!
@@Angie2343 Fair. Either way, I highly recommend picking up a copy of it!
Coincidentally, I was actually at Epcot when this video was uploaded! Unfortunately, the major revamp is true. If this entire museum was being taken down later, I would've totally taken a bunch of pictures and videos to see if I could find any Sega World related items left!
Sega shot an infomercial here for the Sega Channel service (around 1995) starring Phil Moore (host of Nick Arcade).
it always makes my day when you upload :)
It always makes my day when someone leaves a nice comment like yours :)
Family Matters filmed at Disney during the time this existed! And who was the voice of Sonic?
JALEEL WHITE! =D
Seeing this makes me want to go to a Sega theme park.
They have so much good IP's that lend themselves well to it.
Badnik Gaming Beaver shouted your channel out for thanking you for showing him the Japan Sonic Statue
Man, I went to Epcot in 2007 and I had no idea that there used to be a SEGA section, or that the Japan section had Sonic merch... Unless this was a recent addition.
Damn, This really makes me wish time travel could exist by now.
Brilliant Documentary Dave! I wonder if someday we'll find out if the venue had Sonic X-treme?
MrRetroGeek From everything I’ve ever heard, it did not. In fact, it didn’t ever really see much Saturn at all. They mainly focused on showcasing Genesis consoles, their variants, and add ons in addition to the arcade cabinets. There was Saturn stuff there for Nights, but never X-Treme as far as I know.
Just found your channel dude... Impressive documentary style I like it.
Thank you, hope you subscribe + the bell icon. lol or at least check out my other work.
@@BadnikMechanic I will thanks. Iv already smashed the bell button. Hope to see more.
Sonic Xtreme was never playable at EPCOT. I live very close to Walt Disney World and have had an annual pass all my life. I remember the whole SEGA area in INNOVENTIONS very well. It was amazing for a SEGA fan. I played so many new SEGA games at EPCOT for the very first time. I have a ton of pictures from the exhibits too.
I was wondering.
In the video I mention the display case and how it's not clear if you could buy those items? Any chance you could confirm that?
Also any chance you could upload the photos?
Badnik Mechanic Read my other post in regard to how merchandise was handled. I’ll see if I can find the photos. I think I know where the photos from the Dreamcast display are. Anything earlier than that I will have to dig. Is there a specific place the photos should be uploaded for all to see? I went on the very last day of operation for the exhibit and photographed every inch I could. It was sad. SEGA had been inside Innoventions for almost 10 years. SEGA was no longer a console company. It was the end of an era, and a sad end at that.
Horizons1 Hey did you ever find those pictures?
Nicola Ross I have the ones from the Dreamcast exhibit. Haven’t found any from when INNOVENTIONS opened at EPCOT ‘94. Any idea where I can upload them?
@@Horizons1RUclips as a slideshow
Good job on putting the "Bridge Zone" theme at the end of the video!
Innovations will always be my favorite part of Epcot cause it gave me both trauma (from the tornado exhibit) and fun (everything else)
Why did the tornado exhibit traumatize you?
The Autistic Knight I was really young lol
12:50 if you look closely, you can see a sonic extreme demo on the right.
This is really awesome! I remember when I went to innovations the only game thing they had was a make your own game area.
Cool seeing you here
@@kitzlife I am many places.
:3
There should be a theme park but about video games
Universal's parks are getting Super Nintendo World areas--starting with Japan, but the new park they're planning for Orlando will have one.
I heard about VR theme parks in Dubai but I don’t live anywhere near there. They actually did license actual gaming properties including Gears of War and (I think) Final Fantasy. That all said it offered the same experience as a very expensive Dave and Busters.
I wonder if somewhere someone out there not only has the giant knuckles statue somewhere; but it's surrounded by many other knuckles toys, figures and mini statues as a sort of knuckles tribe in their room.
No Broddas I do not do da reference; because.... I'm rougher than the rest of them, the best of them!
My best friend (who went to Epcot while this was still around) would pay money for that Knuckles statue, because she has been a fan of him since his debut.
I always thought Sonic felt more at home with Warner Bros. than Disney, so this is super fascinating to me.
SAME! I only started thinking that when I got into DC, though.
My favorite theme park ever, and one of my favorite game publishers ever. If only I could go back in time to experience that which existed before even my birth. I'd be completely indecisive whether to bolt for Innoventions or Wonders of Life first.
@@unwelldanny7108 you coulda just said vore
Nintendo buys universal for Super nintendo world on 2020
Capcom has to now buy disney for capcom world through 2021
I mean, if its the only way to get a new Marvel vs Capcom, then I'm down.
I was wondering if you ever going to do something like this cool God I've heard about this sonic at Disney thing
Went here when I was 9- I think in January of 1995. I’ll have to track down some photos. So cool to be able to see some video of it again.
Sega & Disney Were Like Brothers. Especially In the 1990s. Before Sonic 1, Mickey Mouse Helped The Sega Genisis To Grow to Popularity With Castle Of Illusion. Along With The Other Three Games that came after sonic 1, such as Quackshot With Donald Duck (Wich Was Another Big Genisis Classic), World Of Illusion With Both Mickey And Donald (The Best of All Three Games), And Trust Me Sega Really Cared For The Games With Mickey, Wich Was Also The Reason Disney Agreed to let Sega Experience More with Disney Properties, That Leaded To The Alladin Game, Mickey Mania and more, And Not Only The Games, When Sega Wanted To Enter The Machine Market, Disney Also once again Helped Sega By Letting Them Make Mickey Mouse, Goofy, Donald, Chip n Dale and Almost Every Disney Charachter Plushies for their Sega UFO Claws, Wich Sega Was really happy off. Also Toys and Figures of Disney Charachters were Agreed, Heck!! Sega Even Released Mickey Mouse Figures Of The 1920s Mickey and Other mickeys With Mickey Mouse's 90th Anniversary in 2019. So that's Saying That The Relation Between Sega & Disney Is Still Strong Today.
If Disney Grabbed Sega For A New Improved SONIC World At Disney Parks, What Would Be Your Dream Design Of It?
All of the main zones mixed into one giant park. And sonic themed restaurants would serve sonic themed food and drinks.and shops too.
The “My Retro Life” footage. Cool documentary!
Dang it! I went to Disney World the first time in January 2002. I'm assuming it was already closed a few months before then. It's kind of a bummer I never got to go!
Given Disney's track record with spinning platforms, that most people didn't even know it moved doesn't shock me. There are actually a lot of animatronics at Disney with features that are either costly or structurally busted, or turned out to be otherwise unwise to constantly run in a way that wasn't foreseen ahead of time, so nobody ever sees them after a certain point and many people forget those details over time. (See: Boulders falling in the Indiana Jones ride, the Yeti, the spinning showgirls fountain platform, etc etc) But for some reason these multilayered spinning platforms never seem to work out for them for long at all even compared to other things they've done. It's really cool someone managed to catch it on camera, because it's entirely possible it really didn't move for very long at all!
There is some other footage of this found at the end of an Australian copy of the 101 Dalmatians VHS.
I have a copy and have the means of capturing it and uploading it, if anyone's interested.
YES!
Alright, let's do this. I'll post a link here as a reply. If I remember correctly, it featured the variant of the big statue with the flat ring.
I guess we'll see. I live in Australia though and it's 1am, haha. I'll do it tomorrow if I can.
Another great video, by the way.
I just checked the tape and it has more footage of the statue's barrel moving!!
@@BadnikMechanic OK, so I ignored how late it is and captured/uploaded it anyway. It's on my other (not-so-great) channel, here's the link:
ruclips.net/video/EkT-fGYHWf4/видео.html
@@JoystickDivision 0_0
I remember going to Florida's version of Disney's Innoventions with my family during our vacation years ago. When I first went in there, I didn't realize they had Sega games like the Sonic ones. They even played the Sonic SatAM cartoon in it. I think the episode it was showing was from season 2 called "Game Guy".
So that's Disney can't tell the difference between classic sonic and modern sonic
You are the best british youtuber im subscribed to.
Get rid of the British, he should be the best RUclipsr your subbed to
@@zpcarchives You are very kind!
Thank you! That's very kind of you, please tell your friends about me! =)
Badnik Mechanic it’s an honour!
Badnik Mechanic where can I leave suggestions for videos?
Great documentary as always! Can we expect a video about your thoughts of the sonic movie in the future?
3 MONTHS LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I'm fixing to see the movie I'm excited
7th grade field trip in 94. I could have stayed in there all day. Each Sega was set to a timer and reset after a few mins. Playing Sonic 2 and using the codes, I had just enough time to beat the game. Good times.
The game you called Sonic Extreme, seems to now be called Sonic 3D Blast.
I left the comment "not sure" a min ago. I knew it as Sonic 3D. It seemed that sega was trying to decide between if they'd publish it on the Genesis or wait for the still WIP Saturn.
& while thats just opinion of someone who tested it.. Imo the guarded secret was that it had a fairly high chance to cause dizziness. (3d game, on genesis, in mid 90s) otherwise it was an intriguing albeit overhyped game. The overhype is also perhaps why sega considered saving Sonic 3D for the Saturn to not disappoint expectations. (tarnish brand)
Anyway, thanks for the research & would be tite for innoventions to come back one day. Didnt realize how cool it all was or that future land would be gone so soon.
I wonder if Super Nintendo World would still be a possibility if Sega went with Universal...?
This is why Disney put Sonic as a cameo in Wreck it Ralph
A weird idea I’ve had for a while is Disney getting the rights to a NiGHTS ride and turning journey into imagination into some sort of NiGHTS ride. Idk I think it’d be really cool
Did you know that t.m.n.t was at disney in the 90's
I have a few pictures from back in the day, it truly was a special place.
Any chance you could upload or email me them? Would love to see more of it!
Cool I’m in the additional media section and I’m first. I feel honored
I don't mean to be pedantic, but your thumbnail has a typo. I'm sorry.
Ah! It's fixed, awesome.
Interesting that I should watch two videos in two days dealing with Sega World. The other was about the one in Sydney. I think given I was not a Sega kid, part of the great appeal of this with all the Sonicness and new tech would have been lost on me. The ider of Innovations sounds pretty cool, although by the time it opened, I'd stopped going to Disney as I no longer had passes. But other then the lure of Daytona USA sadly this wouldn't have been my stomping ground.
Are you going to make a Sonic movie review?
This would have been so cool if they kept this. I don't remember any of it, I guess I didn't go to innovations much during those years. Cant imagine sega systems being in all the arcades too.
Can someone create a compilation of Badnik saying the words fantastic and amazing. XD
Aw man, I was at Disney World in 2000 and I have so much stuff with that logo on the pin, but I wish I’d gotten that pin!
This is interesting 😊
17:05 Where did you get that Bridge Zone remix?
Star Wars had exhibits at Disney parks called Star Tours.
Later, Disney bought out Star Wars.
Indiana Jones had an exhibit called "Indiana Jones Adventures"
Disney has bought out Indiana Jones.
Disney once had a Sonic exhibit.
... Uh oh.
Paramount made the Sonic movie, don't worry. If anything, AT&T should buy out Sonic. That way, Sonic and The Flash can be fast friends together.
Well, Disney did have a few games on the Genesis/Mega Drive, so...
I wish Sega stilled have those prototypes and that Sonic X treme render
I don't remember the game, but the Tazmania cartoon was great.
Disney and SEGA do have an odd, but interesting friendship.
Fun fact my dad actually took the sonic at 14:54 home and my sisters used to play on it before the head and body got moldy and had to be destroyed but the feet and hands could still be out there 😌
I almost mistook this video as from PatMac.
Love the vid Nostalgia♡♡
This is why I find it kinda ironic that Nintendo partnered with Universal and made Super Nintendo World. To me, it shows that even though Sega and Nintendo tend to work together now, theres still a little bit of rivalry.
bruh now everything I see is owned by Disney now
Sega let Taz Mania in because of Roger Rabbit.
Hey @RetroRick is that tails statue at 09:20 the same one that ended up at your store!? Sure looks like it.
Why won’t it @ him??? 😢
But I bet Universal Studios is more a Mario fan than Sonic(it's really obvious)
I know it's called mega drive in pal regions and Japan but it feels weird to me
5:04 is that Captain America on the left
It most certainly is!
Would have pointed it out but very small details like that are hard to spot until the video full renders.
Hey badnik, I don't know if you'll see or respond to this but has there been any new info on that giant sonic adventure statue? I really would hate for something so cool to be destroyed.
Actually yeah, I'm going to be doing a video on it this weekend...
Mr Kateras son got in touch with some info.
@@BadnikMechanic 👀 hyped, thanks for responding.
@@BadnikMechanic wait are we thinking of the same statue? I'm referring to the giant one from E3 and the epcot center. Sorry😅
@@poisonivy9062 oh no, I'm talking about the one on the Japanese mountains.
@@BadnikMechanic aw makes sense, I still look forward to the video. It's a hard pill to swallow but the E3 statue has probably been destroyed😔
9:07 that Tails statue is creepy as f%^k. Move over Tails Doll, we have a new Tails creepy pasta thing. Well old actually, but you know...
You should check out my other video called night of the Tails Doll.
Doesn't get much creepier than that =p
I NEED THOSE PLUSHIES 18.45
Sonic statue when
Cool I’m in additional media
I could only make out the levels this would’ve been 10 years ago.
My grandpa used to work there so I got the uniform