All New Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE - Have Suzuki Done It Again?
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2023
- When Suzuki design a motorcycle they do so with longevity in mind. The Vstrom 650 has been one of the best, if not the best, all round midrange motorcycles for around 20 years. That why when the Vstrom 800 DE was announced I wondered why! How could Suzuki improve on the 650, especially with a parallel twin. Could Suzuki have done it again?
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The yellow highlights make that a very visible bike in low light. Nice bike, thanks.
Thanks Dain , yes not everyone’s cup of tea but should add to road presence 😁
Suzuki's are very well made my 2016 VStrom 650 has 70000 ks on the clock and still feels like a new bike
That’s fantastic 😁 thanks RIR 😁
An excellent review. Looks like a very nice bike. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks BH 😁 it is a very nice bike to ride indeed 😁
Hi TAYM sat on this back to back with 650 at the nec show. There was a significant weigh size and height difference for me. I bought a 650 as I could barely get my leg over the 1050. I also thought it was less handsome than the 650. I like Suzukis and am sure it will sell in droves. Quite a jump up in price though
Totally agree😁 it is a marvellous bike but the 650 is such good value at the moment 😁
I like this bike and the modern parallel twin engine. It should be called the 'P-Strom.' But why the tube tyres, a big minus point. Cars havent used tubes for decades!
Thanks S😁 yes a few have said the same 😁
Put tire sealant in them
Nice one TAYM, looks a very capable bike but like all adventure bikes a bit on the tall side....
I can’t argue with that 😁 thanks H 😁
That colour scheme is actually quite nice. 👍
Thanks Foxy, it is going to be one of those marmite things I think🤔 or should I say banana 😁😂😂😂
US based, was in the market for a good mid sized adv bike. I live in the mountains and the bikes are used for true offroad and twisties like Tail of The Dragon.
After 6months I had my choices down to a T7, Aprilia T660, Africa Twin and the 800DE.
The AT was 1100cc, out of the running, as it was big and also the airfilters are a pain in the butt to access.
The Aprilia was OK, but dealership in my area was questionable people.
The T7 was uncomfortable on long rides, but awesome offroad
The 800DE was good and comfortable but more expensive and the lack of aftermarket parts is not ideal.
I ended up buying the kitted 800DE with bash plate, crashbars and hard panniers for now.
When the aftermarket catches up, I'll get a lighter exhaust, soft panniers and a light lithium battery which will save weight.
I am an ultra light backpacker and my entire kit for a full week is 20lbs, including food, tent,sleeping bag/pad/clothes, water filter, 20k battery, etc.
When my friend with the t7 and I went camping for the week I was 20lbs lighter all together than he was. He brings alot heavier camping gear than I.
My point is, the paper stats are misleading in real world applications.
I was lighter all said and done, and retained all the comforts and tech, an extra gallon of fuel, and more hp.
The most underrated aspect of the 800DE?
The suspension. It is really really good. I'd say it is just as good as the T7, but my friend thinks it's actually better the his t7.
He is selling the t7 and getting an 800DE.
I've got the metallic black/blue and he is getting the yellow/blue.
If it had cruise control, Suzuki would have a real problem selling a 1050
Fantastic comment and great information 😁 Thank you 😁
Good luck with the ride tomorrow!
Thanks 2WV 😁it was good fun 😁
That road to Hemingstone church is where I stop sometimes when I'm out and about, but a bit further on. Not the most visually appealing bike to my eye, but hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder is it not? A great review, all the same! ....It's not what your riding, it's where your going that matters!
Absolutely 😁 thanks VB 😁
I’d say Suzuki has almost a total winner in the 800 VStrom. I don’t think it’s for short shites like me when I watched you turn it around in the dirt road and you’re in tippee toes.
Otherwise I’d be really happy with one.
Love the color combo❣️
Yes it’s a tall bike especially on uneven and slippery ground. Lovely bike though 😁 thanks PW 😁
Cracking review, as always, the bike looks and goes really nice. I didn't realise the bike is so tall but it's pricy here in Ireland, it's €12,850. That's only €350 more than the Transalp. Both are bit too expensive for me. I was looking forward to your review and you didn't disappoint, very enjoyable.
Thanks PL 😁 expensive yes, but bloody marvellous 😁
Im not the tallest, but i love a tall bike 😍😍
😂😂😂 thanks GC 😁
Morning TAYM . That front beak design is VERY reminiscent of the Suzuki DR BIG 800 of 1990 !!
No doubt it's a very good bike but for shorty's like me it's basically out of the question , a shame as the original Triumph Tiger 800 subframe design allowed a low seat option that could accommodate even the shortest of people ...(I owned one for 3 years). I quite like the colour, Suzuki are doing some interesting colour's on many of their bikes at the moment.
Thanks DJ 😁 I will be surprised if they don’t do a lowering kit for it🤔😁
Love this bike...can see me owning one some day 👍
Yes me too, when the price drops 😁
@@TAYM me three😄
@@roadwarrior8560 😂😂😂😂
Cracking review TAYM, too tall for me this one. Another bike styled with a ruler. Reminds me of the Austin Princess. Just my personal view.I think 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 brilliant 😂😂 that would make it the Ambassador 😁😂😂😂 thanks Mike 😁
Superb review, I would have actually said it tasted like Rhubarb and Custard after it's been left to go cold overnight and gone a bit grey!
This thing could actually tempt me off my 1050XT... 😮😮😮
Thanks Richie 😁😂😂😂
Rode it last Thursday (18th may) and I wish I hadn't! Really nice bike......needs tubless tyres though
Thanks JS😁 yes, nice isn’t it 😁
Great review Mr TAYM. Fabulous to see Suzuki bringing out some genuinely new bikes; sadly for me it's too expensive, too tall and too heavy, not to mention the lack of cruise control and tubeless tires.
It’s certainly expensive next to the very capable 650😁 thanks TG 😁
You don’t need tubeless on an adventure bike. You get your tyres staked off road, your ride is finished - if you’re in a remote area, it’s a dangerous situation to be in….
@@martyn_g Agreed, if you plan to use it off road often, unlike the vast majority of owners I’d venture. I have a wee just because it’s a great all round road bike, and I’m glad it has a 19” front and tubeless rims, means I’ll never be stranded as I always have tubeless repair kit with me. Shame they don’t offer them on this also, and also cruise, then I’d almost certainly buy 1, or the Transalp if that had these features.
@@martyn_g good point 😁
If they come out with a V-Strom style road version I'd be in. Like you tho I'd need to wait a few years until low milage models become available. Perfect type of bike for the cart trax we have here in Kent as we don't have to pay anything to upgrade them. Except for rates and vehicle tax that is.
😂😂😂 brilliant 😁 thanks SC 😁
Really nice looking colour scheme, like it 😀👍🏻
I think so 😁 thanks W 😁
Think I'd rather this engine than the 1050 which always gave clutch ratlle after maybe 20k miles, not mad about the tubed front wheel though but the front rarely gets punctured anyway. Good video mate.
Thanks RW 😁 interesting🤔
You remind me of Paul Whitehouse on the Fast Show doing his "Brilliant" routine. Glad you liked the bike. Eighteen years ago I bought an SV1000 naked brand new for about £4300. They were a commercial failure because the idiots in the motorcycle press didn't like them. It became one of my all-time favourite bikes and I'm glad to see the engine continuing to do well in the larger V-Strom. I'm now riding a Beemer 1250RT: bought it to match my pipe and slippers.
😂😂😂😂 yes, I had a TL1000 for a will, that was also marvellous 😁 thanks TA 😁
Good "real roads" review. Well done Mr TAYM. Tubeless tyres??
Thanks DT 😁 sorry, never heard that, what did you say 😂😂😂😂
Great review again TAYM. Sadly my short-arseness has precluded me from many "adventure style" motorcycles over the years but I did fancy one of the previous Vstrom 650's. Unfortunately it also felt a bit top heavy so it was a no no. Is the new bike any better in this regard? Asking for a friend as I'm very happy with Rupert as you know.
I don't think those indicators are self-indicating but the horn is clearly self-horning.
Marvellous 👍
😂😂😂😂😂 brilliant, love it 😁 it is still pretty heavy 😁 thanks PGB 😁
Easy !! ..THE word for enjoying the bike and for safe riding
Why should motorcycles be difficult or add stress, worry to your journey?
Lovely bike.. though like you not a fan of the colour...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Thanks AE 😁
nice one sir, great bike almost as good as the Transalp 🙃😉😆😁😇
😂😁😂😂 very funny, I see what you are doing there ice 😂😁😁
@@TAYM 😝😇 Moi?
@@icedidi 😂😂😂😂😂
G’day Taym, another great review, doesn’t look to bad but quite expensive.. $18,590 here👍
Yep, it’s the price that spoils it😁 next to the 650 it looks even more so 😁 thanks ABD 😁
Well, it’s cheaper then a Tenere, and 890/Norden901 so, I’m not sure I’d call it expensive. Remember it’s does have adjustable suspension, unlike the incoming Transalp
What a good middleweight adventure touring bike 👍. It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved a tall babe. I also like the Husqvana Norden 901, especially as it doesn't have that peaky beak at the front. I don't need either though as my only off-roading is a bit of red laterite and my Interceptor does the adventure touring on that for me. Another great review and thoughts! 👍👍
Brilliant 😁😂😂 thanks GBD 😁
The Norden/890 will be more nimble, lower centre of gravity.
Smart looking bike and it sounds nice. Great review from a Suzuki fan 😁😆😅🤣😂. Getting up there in dollars 💸 though.
Thanks IT 😁 yes definitely a bit pricey 😁
Don’t know about that. Here in Australia, it’s cheaper then a Tenere 700.
You have a personal connection to that bike. Can hear it in your voice.
I do like it 😁 thanks LoY 😁
I definitely want to try one but they haven't been released in Australia yet 😢
Sure it will be there shortly😁
They are here one in Albany Western Australia last week at Dealers.
@@raywilliams9808 excellent 😁
I test drove this bike and I do confirm high vibrations on the foot pegs around 6K-7K revs. Also an other thing I have to mention is the large amount of heat comes from engine when in traffic and moving in low speeds. It is like having heated legs with this. I do confirm that it has great torque from low revs unlike Transalp, great suspension, great breaks, great siting position and it feels much lighter that a 230Kgr bike. It is also very maneuverable in traffic. It is quieter from Transalp in term of exhaust sound.
Never ridden a Transalp 🤔 I must see if I can find one😁 thanks K 😁
Well, that's great if your not on the equator at noon. I can't say I ever felt too hot on a motorcycle.
@@chadkline4268 😂😂😂
Odd one this🤔 through your mic it sounds very simular to my 1050xt i owned considering its paralell twin...think ill stick at moment my recently bought old 650strom .....
It certainly can’t compete with the 650 😁 not at £3k more 😁 thanks C&D 😁
My favourite new bike of the year. Shame they couldn’t have supplied tubeless spoked rims otherwise my order would have been in for one. That and a taller screen.
Thanks RFC 😁 yes, a very nice bike 😁
Hello and thank you I’ve been waiting for this for a long time,for the color i prefer yellow the historic color for motocross at Suzuki.
For the power we can really think about it WE all love these! But on our road with repression and limitation is it reasonable ?? That's why I say I miss my 650 single cylinder so much.....to my Djebel.
But for me this bike is a real success too bad it is so expensive.....a little less power,so a little less electronics assistance, no need for quick shifter ....and we get an accessible motorcycle for freedom of all, Royal Enfield has und erstood this well with its Himalayen.They will just increase the displacement and horsepower a bit and thus win the mid-displacement trail market. And let's be frank all those bikers who ride 120 to 200 horsepower motorcycles without electronics the hospitals would be full.
But I admit I would pay for this Suzuki.😀👍✌️🇨🇵
Thanks Alain 😁 you are not wrong 😁
What is tgd rear suspension like? 3 yrs ago, I test rode a 650xt with a view to buying one, having previously ridden my Son's. Bloody rear suspension was hard and appauling....had to walk away, sad because my Son's older model was super comfy.
Interesting 🤔 thanks SW 😁
Morning Mr TAYM, not a bad looking bike that. Now I haven’t seen the 8-s in the flesh, but that looks better in my opinion. The height might put a lot of people off though. That seems to be a thing with Adventure/Tourer bikes, but let’s face it, not many owners would risk taking £10k worth of bike on a trail, would they, so why not just make a “one size fits all” tourer. Anyway, a thumbs up from me 👍
Thanks Ian 😁
Shorties have lots of bikes to choose from. Taller men wish it was higher. Get a gsx 8s.
@@chadkline4268 😂😂😂😂 another marvellous bike 😁
Well TAYM this one looks good not a big fan of the adventure look nor am I fan of grey as a finish it always looks like primer to me but I will say in this case (shock horror ) the grey is improved by the flashes of yellow it really enhances it overall look .I assume this is the same engine as the 800 GSX 8 S which you had on an earlier test .Screen looks a bit small but I guess one could change that , to tall for the likes of me .I reckon TAYM ! that these what are called middleweight twins are going to be the only choice in the future because as you say all the speed restrictions and this environmental stuff they keep on about will mean the choice in the future will be much much less ie these will be the only choice no big naughty stuff @150+ BHP . 😉👌👍
Thanks Crumb 😁 you could be right 🤔😁
@ 2.01- 2.05 was that Rest Day Rider racing ahead because she'd heard your story about the young Taym going through a hedge?😁
Re. The Suzook, I like the grey but could do without the yellow. I need to see one properly in the flesh. I really wish they'd come up with a better name for it. Just the Strom would make sense but why call it a V Strom when it isn't?
😂😂😂 yes, odd they kept the name🤔 thanks EB 😁
I'm not a fan of a 21inch front wheel but I have to say I didn't really notice it
Thanks JS 😁 yes, it’s the sort of thing you might notice more off-road, I think 😁
Nice bike,think it looks great in that colour 😀,too tall and heavy for me though! I watched a video last night that I think will interest you. It's on the tec bike parts channel and it's all about the BSA and it's many downfalls which he's trying to sort out with different parts etc 🤔, have a look if you get chance 😃
Thanks B 😁 I shall try and find it, sounds interesting 😁
@@TAYM if you struggle type bsa gold star the good the bad and the ugly and it will come up😀
@@bally632 thanks B 😁
Thats a cracking bike, I think the problem with bigger bikes is you never get a chance to legally use the extra power and mostly average speeds are well down nowadays because of the speed limits so a smaller bike makes more sense. Still love my Vstrom 1000 though. The only benefit of a bigger engine is perhaps longevity
Thanks WM😁 I know it would take something to get you off the 1000 but I reckon if you rode it, it might just get you dipping into your wallet 😁
Don’t forget the most important benefit « mine is bigger than yours »
An 800 isn’t exactly a small engine… and it’s a Suzuki.. I highly doubt there’ll be any longevity issues with the engine.
@@Checkpat 😂😂😂😂 brilliant 😁
Well, well, Mr TAYM this was one of your most enthusiastic reviews yet, almost up there with the Rocket 3 and you're own Thruxton RS. I'm not a fan of Peaky bikes, nor of that new headlight set up but I guess it's about practicality, another colour scheme might soften its looks quite considerably. Orwell's and others ought to have you on commission, I'm sure quite a few bikes have had their rubber removed from showroom floors due to your Marvellous reviews 👍😀😁
Thanks GW 😁 they have indeed but for some reason I don’t think the manufacturer’s quite get it 🤔😕😁😂😂😂
@@TAYM No I don't think they get it either, they think the best way to sell bikes is to gift them to the gushers as long term loaners. Or buy more drivel with all expenses paid foreign launches. Sadly the gullible will fall for the gush but anyone with any sense will wait for a more grounded opinion 👍😁😀 p.s. I had Grey Wolf the younger out on the ZZR today, Oh dear three naughty boys together, fun may very well have been had 😉😯😀😵😌
@@greywolf9292 marvellous 😁 😂😂😂😂 was it too much fun to film 😁😂😂
@@TAYM Much like yourself the real naughty boy stuff either happens off camera or is cleverly edited. We had one bum twitchy moment ( on camera) in the Twisties on a damp road, which has previously only happened in much colder weather. The sooner those Bridgstones get swapped for Road 6's the better.
Off camera I was sitting next to a campervan at lights in a merging lane. The driver revved a couple of times so I revved back. He and his son were smiling. He then began a sort of drag launch revving on the clutch. I thought "he can't be serious" 🤔 Sure enough he launched off blocking my chance to merge. I opened the throttle to feel the front wheel lift, closed it, opened it, the wheel lifted again, soon he was behind me. I heard my son saying "did I just feel the front wheel lift there" "yes son" I replied, "thankfully traction control kicked in to stop it lifting further" 😕🥴😲😂
Just wish it had cruise control, same goes for the transalp.
Yes it could do with one 😁
im gonna wait for a 19'' frond wheel edition of this
Are they going to do one? 😁
@@TAYM i read yes
@@thodoris3790 interesting 😁
@@TAYM they should.also honda must make a street transalp,with 17'' wheels,as yamaha has the tracer7.can i ask you a question?compared with the tenere,vstrom 800 is better in comfort and on road riding?what do you think?
Will probably be cast wheels with tubeless tyres.
why tube type suzuki? hope the add some option for tubeless
Thanks ZZZ 😁
That chew. Were they called Arrow bars? 🤔
Could well be🤔 😂😂😂 I remember the taste better than the name 😁 thanks SBK 😁
I just don’t want to go back to tubed tyres anymore. This and the Transalp. They will sell a lot more in when they release a roadie edition.
Interesting 🤔 thanks Terry 😁
Tube tyres
I don't like the gold color forks with the yellow color combo. Forks would look better black. But other then that, nice bike.
Yes you could be right 🤔😁 thanks W 😁
🦒and 270° parallel twins are taking over the world 🌍
😂😂😂😂 seems that way 😁 thanks Stefan 😁
Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda, grazie.
According to the dash it got to 85 degrees😁
Expensive for what it is starting at £10 665 otr plus it’s heavy 230kg
Maybe they are hoping to compete with BMW 😂😂😂😂 thanks Derek 😁
Crazy price. A new VStrom 1050XT is only £10795 and that's got tubeless tyres.
@@splodge5714 strange that’s the top price of them some dealerships £10,500 still expensive compared to the big brother 👍👍
What a marvellous bike 😃should I 🤔 tastes like a fruit Salad 😃 4 for a penny 👍
Thanks Ainsworth 😁 wasn’t it 3 for a penny🤔
@@TAYM No definitely 4 fruit salads or 4 black Jacks 👍 I sold them in my Mum and Dad’s corner shop 👍😃
@@Ainsworth-Rider but that’s simply 2 for half a pence 😁😂😂😂
@@TAYM and 1 for a farthing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Ainsworth-Rider 😂😂😂
Not rode one yet, but from riding the 8S i know how good that engine is. But this new Strom isn't for me, not keen on the looks, the colour options, or its extra weight over my Wee. Also i wouldn't ride these big adv bikes off road, so i dont want 21" front, spokes and tubes. Yet to see if this new p twin will be as supremely reliable or as good on fuel as the 650 v twin. So engine gets a 👍from me, but i definitely wouldn't trade my gen 3 Wee for this new Strom.
Thanks JS 😁 for me it’s the extra £3k that shows just how good the 650 is 😁
A capable bike with a lot of useful features like adjustable suspension , but lacking in some areas ie no cruise , no tubeless tyres and heavy .
However Suzuki know their market and what they can get away with .
A competitor would be the Moto Guzzi V85tt at a similar price , but Guzzi has shaft drive and air cooling benefits .
Did Suzuki buy a job lot of paint from the Navy ? Battleship Grey and Yellow ? Yuck !
Like all VStroms , the styling is somewhat of an acquired taste , but that won't affect some folks who just want a reliable bike that will do long distances without bother .
If it were a dog , it would be a Pitbull , a big friendly grey one that wants to please everybody .
Woof woof , there's a good boy [ or bike ].
Thanks Dung 😁 as usual can’t disagree with that 😁
Have you, or anyone here, ridden both this bike and Tiger 850 Sport? I'm closely considering both bikes.
I have ridden the 660 tiger and had the 900 rally pro. Never ridden the 850 sport but suspect that the triumph would have some advantages😁 the Suzuki would be cheaper to run I would think but can’t be certain. 😁 Sorry not much help😁
@@TAYM How did those two engines feel compared to this Suzuki twin?
@@juliemcgillivray3394 not as relaxed as the Suzuki. I guess it depends what you are looking for. The 900 is quite a leap from the Suzuki in terms of acceleration, top speed, fit and finish but is also a few thousand more. The 660 is not as good as the Suzuki on the same points but is cheaper. Over the 660 I would have the Suzuki but rather the 900 over the Suzuki. I just don’t know about the 850. I shall try and get on one at the open day tomorrow 😁 the Triumph triple engines are an absolute work of art but my wife says they make hear ears itch when we do long journeys 😂😂😂
@@TAYM That would be great. I can get an 850 in the States for the same price as the 800 DE, more or less.
@@juliemcgillivray3394 yes I think they are similar prices here too 😁
Mi piacerebbe sapere se scalda, grazie .
The bike or the weather? 😁
the bike.
@@acadenacci not whilst I was riding it, but it was a chilly day. 😁
Self indicating, errrm indicators, may well be better for you! 🤣
Have you got your caviar sandwiches for the ‘Distinguished Gentleman’s Ride?’ 🤣
Or is it fish paste and Iron Bru? 🤣
😂😂😂😂
I leave such things for Mrs TAYM to arrange 😂😂😂😂
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2nd
2nd, how are you only second? I literally have just this second posted it !!!! 😂😂😂
Said no views but had 1 thumbs 👍 up?I reckon I was first😁😆😂🤣.
@@TAYM Yeah I was first said no views.
@@ruahinesrider must have been 😂😂😂
@@ruahinesrider weird isn’t it 🤔😁
Suzuki succeeded in making a good bike with some horrible colours. I now have seen the three colours and non of it looks good.
😂😂😂 thanks MFH 😁
@@TAYM well the positive part is that is a good bike.
@@motorcyclistfromholland8856 thanks MFH 😁 I think so 😁
I have never wanted yellow on a bike until I saw this model. I think it looks pure class. Pair with a bright yellow shoei and you’re looking good and high vis
@@djrandizz thanks R 😁
That bike look like Playmobil made it, just so ugly, yeah.
😂😂😂😂 not entirely wrong there 😂😂😂 thanks RE 😁
@@TAYM Yeah well, I guess it is`t the point of the Vstrom to look pretty, I just like aesthetically pleasing stuff, I´m sure it is reasonable and practical, but I would proberbly go with the Tenere or Transalp.
Btw why do they continue to call it a Vstrom when it have a parallel twin ?
@@Uriel-Septim. thanks RE 😁 very good question and one I asked about the 250 years ago. I am still waiting for the answer 😁