10 Reasons NOT to Skate Flat

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @BrandonDrummond
    @BrandonDrummond  11 месяцев назад +5

    Apologies for the construction sounds in the background & thanks to Lino for the inspo ❤
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  • @eltoppdog
    @eltoppdog 11 месяцев назад +31

    As a 40yo getting back into it, who skated exclusively anti-rocker before, the feeling of ease and fluidity that a flat setup provides FAR out-ranks making grinding and landing easier.
    I get a newfound joy out of just skating around, grinds and jumps are an added bonus now.

    • @JiandiP
      @JiandiP 11 месяцев назад +3

      I can relate with that. I took it one step further with a 5-wheel wizard frame on an agresive boot. I'm straight floating around the skate park. With no h-block it's all grinds involving sole plate but it's all good. I'm more so trying to catch a wave than pick and poke at a single rail all day.

    • @Bcbweb
      @Bcbweb 8 месяцев назад

      You should get some urban skates with big wheels if you love just skating around cities and jumping stuff

    • @DaddyDog
      @DaddyDog 3 месяца назад +1

      I'm almost 40 and skated hard back in the late 90s and early 2000s and had never heard of this. Blades were blades with four wheels. Seems like cheater stuff to me lol bought a pair of rollerblade nj5s with this odd 2 wheel setup and felt wrong af. Just recently bought them 909s and 909 80s

  • @almostremembered
    @almostremembered 11 месяцев назад +25

    The biggest thing with the knees is that with flat you have twice as much urethane to absorb the impact. Which is really good for those who have bad knees or are getting older.

    • @lewisbloom
      @lewisbloom 11 месяцев назад

      on the flip side the wheel bite and falling is far greater and i'd say isnt a balanced pro and con. The pro is so small compared to the cons, ill happily skate anti rocker as its just, well for me an older guy its the skating evolution, there's a reason we used them as well as backslide plates. Making it harder because,... reasons just seems silly

    • @thenightspydercollector8066
      @thenightspydercollector8066 11 месяцев назад

      I tried anti rocker and I hate losing my speed and being agile. Plus being a size 12 it make skating Park like having scooters on my feet.

  • @BigNoiseyBoi
    @BigNoiseyBoi 11 месяцев назад +7

    Still a "beginner" , still gonna ride flat. I don't like the train track feeling of anti, its horrible.

  • @jadrollervlog
    @jadrollervlog 11 месяцев назад +9

    This is exactly why I don't skate flat. Although I'm pretty excited to try the JT frames by iqon. Promising but there's still a lot of downsides to skating flat. I'll always be more comfortable with anti. And if you get good wheels and good bearings you'll go just as fast.

    • @NorthernGrim
      @NorthernGrim 11 месяцев назад

      I agree, the only skate I will always skate flat is the Aeons, or the Symmetrics frame. Mostly I'll just be on FL3 or Fluid4's. I tried the GC flat frame and it felt like it was banana rockered and felt squirly everywhere.

  • @mattkamachaitis7549
    @mattkamachaitis7549 11 месяцев назад +8

    I skate 60 flat and can't remember the last time wheel bite was a problem for me. It all depends on your frames and wheel durometer

    • @FATSNAIL-FPV
      @FATSNAIL-FPV 5 месяцев назад

      just got back into skating again and have usd Sway 60 flat. what frames do you have?
      With the USD Sway 60's i need to adjust to the frame hitting the surface i skate in turns/ landing 180 air's etc wich made me crash pretty hard on an indoor park bowl, didn't have that problem with my K2's 20 years ago lol (had those anti rocker).

    • @mattkamachaitis7549
      @mattkamachaitis7549 5 месяцев назад

      @@FATSNAIL-FPV ground control flt4 with dead 58mm wheels is a great set up for sways

    • @FATSNAIL-FPV
      @FATSNAIL-FPV 5 месяцев назад

      @@mattkamachaitis7549 thanks!

  • @rollforever_85
    @rollforever_85 11 месяцев назад +4

    That’s why I love Oysi medium. Roll with 8 down, grinds like anti.

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia
    @Vercingetorix.Fantasia 11 месяцев назад +3

    As an anti/freestyle skater, I can littersly skate an h block until it snaps. Wild grooves

  • @Habeev07
    @Habeev07 11 месяцев назад +2

    As a skater in my 30's who was around when blading was still in the Xgames... Ive only known anti-rocker. It was never really popular back in the day to ride flat on the west coast.

  • @ZenithPotentia
    @ZenithPotentia 11 месяцев назад +6

    First Ricardo and now you, its like the world is trying to give me a sign to skate Anti. I just absolutely despise how antirocker feels while rolling. That on top of the fact that i want to learn how to integrate aspects of wizard skating into my aggressive skating

    • @Boyish000
      @Boyish000 11 месяцев назад

      Just stay flat at this point

  • @rossthomson9833
    @rossthomson9833 11 месяцев назад +30

    Stockwell skated anti and carved bowls etc, broskow skates anti so does aragon and look at his pass sections. Don't let the cool kids bully you in to flat. 😂

    • @slim4699
      @slim4699 11 месяцев назад +18

      Stockwell also said on jump street that he would never ride anti again after riding flat😂 js🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @kevron720
      @kevron720 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hell I still skate on freestyle frames lol

    • @wingdingdmetrius8025
      @wingdingdmetrius8025 11 месяцев назад

      Tell Jeff I'm skating his skates rockered

    • @almostremembered
      @almostremembered 11 месяцев назад +4

      This would be a classic example of "these guys are really good despite their wheel setup, not because of it."

    • @eltoppdog
      @eltoppdog 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@almostrememberedNo, no, no!
      It's definitely smart to base things on top-level pros who are clear exceptions to the rule.

  • @NISHIAKI
    @NISHIAKI 11 месяцев назад +5

    I recently moved over to some Them frames setup flat 56, and I am considering never trying anything else just because I can access the UFS bolts without removing the wheels haha. I also think they skate nice and I don't struggle with wheelbite on them any more than I did on my Fluid Vs. But yeah being able to go from flat to big wheel or anti without removing wheels or feeling like I'm going to strip a UFS bolt is amazing. It's not a dream! It just takes a specific setup lol

  • @SkateWeeb.
    @SkateWeeb. 11 месяцев назад +2

    For any flat rolling lad having trouble with landing gaps, get a longer frame. For a lot of these I haven't really been bothered except the knee thing. I can recommend doing leg days at the gym to every aggro rollerblader.

  • @james-ted-garland
    @james-ted-garland 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ive just started skating a Oysi frame and i really enjoy it

  • @drewfleming1
    @drewfleming1 11 месяцев назад +4

    I skate flat a vast majority of the time. Anti is great when starting to learn new grinds.

  • @bearwolffish
    @bearwolffish 11 месяцев назад +17

    Flat all day. No easy mode.

  • @almostremembered
    @almostremembered 11 месяцев назад +1

    The wheel highlighted as "round" is actually a "bullet" profile. The one below it is round.

  • @LeslieJones_RSTRCTD
    @LeslieJones_RSTRCTD 11 месяцев назад

    Hahah, awesome round up there Brandon, once again loving it! :)

  • @yoshawnsmith3573
    @yoshawnsmith3573 11 месяцев назад +1

    I found the way to meet both styles in the middle. By using Undercovers 55mm/95a wheels in the middle and dead wheels 58mm/90a on the outside. This gave me the maneuverability of flat and the feel of anti rocket when I do groove tricks. Plus you can get the UFS bolts off without taking the wheels out.

    • @BigNoiseyBoi
      @BigNoiseyBoi 11 месяцев назад +7

      how is this giving you the maneuverability of flat when you have 2 wheels still not touching the ground at all

    • @adeadlyfart13
      @adeadlyfart13 11 месяцев назад +1

      I love the feel of the Dead wheels, but I ride flat 58mm 95a on the whole skate.

  • @austinpaz2174
    @austinpaz2174 10 месяцев назад +3

    it all depends on the way you skate. i tried anti rocker again when i did my blank team skate review and grinding felt exactly the same as when i rode flat. that train track feeling skating up to ledges or anything fucked with me way too much and that wouldve been reason enough to not ride anti ha

  • @bladelab
    @bladelab 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome video ! Thanks for making this.

  • @nephimcknight5832
    @nephimcknight5832 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have zero problems with turning, getting speed and skating around on a good anti setup with quality wheels/bearings.

  • @D9Beats
    @D9Beats 11 месяцев назад

    I tore my meniscus riding flat. Listen to this man!

  • @crayfishroll
    @crayfishroll 11 месяцев назад

    Great video I do run 2 setups currently one with oysi frames and one with creates anti and your video is spot on for the issues with running flat even though technically my oysi are rockered.... I find myself going back to anti towards the end of my sessions to land those more technical grinds with ease lol. But it is so much more fun carving, gaining speed easier, and rolling over any imperfections with a flat setup.

  • @romzcrazy123
    @romzcrazy123 11 месяцев назад

    That point you made about grinding flat being harder on the knees is so relatable. I really wanted a skate flat a couple of years ago, thinking it would actually help me knees - instead I tore my meniscus doing a mizou on a curb of all things!
    There was something about the low elevation, the jerking motion as a consequence of the wheel bite and the angle of my knee that was a perfect storm for the joint to just completely fail 😂 Each time I thought that doing a mizou wasn’t going to be a problem, it immediately became a problem in a flat setup and instead of rolling away with steez I would be rolling around on the floor in immense pain. I switched back to anti rocker after a few months, and that problem doesn’t occur anymore - but I am also wearing a sports brace on my knee out of sheer paranoia!
    Great video, Brandon - keep it up 👏🏼

    • @almostremembered
      @almostremembered 11 месяцев назад +1

      Bro, wheel bite on a mizou should not be a thing, even on 100mm wizards lol.

    • @BTTG
      @BTTG 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, never heard of wheel bite on a mizou.
      BTW, I just tore my meniscus on a royale, but not because of wheel bite.

  • @ZacGordon
    @ZacGordon 11 месяцев назад

    Have LOVED flat for SO long. I think you (and the Omni skates coming out) convinced me to go back to ant-rocker. Thanks!

    • @ZacGordon
      @ZacGordon 11 месяцев назад

      Hahaha, until the end of the video 😂

  • @Pokephantom
    @Pokephantom 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'll die on my flat skates! Great Vidya thanks amigo!

  • @patrickbettencourt3083
    @patrickbettencourt3083 11 месяцев назад +2

    I definitely skate anti because of the fear of wheel bite.

  • @vincentaugustus2748
    @vincentaugustus2748 7 месяцев назад

    I feel attacked by being served this video, yt starting to read my mind Fr.

  • @kw6466
    @kw6466 11 месяцев назад

    This is a good one. Being in my 40s and had been flo for flo by 4x4, I switched so much times just for fun. I was comfortable riding flat, aka 4-down. Skating a huge fat bar or ledge, no wheels was soooo much fun. Skate snobs will dis what I said, but it's what we do. We have fun. I also love flat. Flat is soon much fun, but wheel bite is very real and if you're going full speed with confidence and you slam on wheel bite you're going to get very nervous and that takes away your mentality of doing it. Anti on Aeons is fun... I love the back wheel sticking out and the H-block being tight. It feels so fun. The only thing is after riding flat, I feel all the cracks. I want to play with wizard frames soon. Hopefully, really soon. But I'm tired of skate snobs talking down on others when they should just skate. If I hear one more anti is cheating or if you didn't grab it, it doesn't count, I might just start skating alone. ATL Walt or aka Vegas Austin will make fun, but he was always playing around. Have fun and try new things

  • @tyronekavanagh9914
    @tyronekavanagh9914 11 месяцев назад +1

    FREE STYLES FTW!!!

  • @stevechrysanthou1703
    @stevechrysanthou1703 11 месяцев назад

    Shifts on fl4s are my favourite setup. Sls on fl3s are also my other setup if i just want to find a ledge and have a session on it and learn new grinds.

  • @apaleguy
    @apaleguy 9 месяцев назад

    I'd say with Anti-rocker you can maneuver a lot easier due to the train tracks
    It makes freestyling and drifting a lot better.

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia
    @Vercingetorix.Fantasia 11 месяцев назад

    I've been skating since I was 12, never skated flat. I skated anti until 2015, then went freestyle and never looked back

  • @sephiroth7818
    @sephiroth7818 11 месяцев назад

    I’ve skated flat or rockered for way over 30 years. I have never been able to comfortably do anti.

  • @dronarchy
    @dronarchy 8 месяцев назад

    Agreed 1000%. Too much wiggle plus 2x wheel/bearing weight. Flat is great for those ballerina toeroll wizards.

  • @Symetryczny666
    @Symetryczny666 7 месяцев назад

    Wszystko ma wady i zalety na flacie fajnie się skaczę gapy i jest dobra prędkość ale na freestyle o wiele lepiej się ślizga i rolki dużo lżejsze,good video😊

  • @CatzzSkatesFamily
    @CatzzSkatesFamily 8 месяцев назад

    This is a whole new world for me. What’s the difference between flat and anti-rocker?

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  8 месяцев назад

      Flat is when you have 4 of the same size wheel on each foot, anti rocker is when you have 2 normal wheels and 2 smaller plastic wheels to grind on, on each foot.

  • @pjayjohnsonII
    @pjayjohnsonII 5 месяцев назад

    I’m new to aggressive skating but flat is way more enjoyable to just skate around.

  • @Bl8ingSh0rts
    @Bl8ingSh0rts 11 месяцев назад

    Loving hi lo atm 60/56/56/60 90a/95a middle wheels work well. Best of both worlds...

  • @Verta33
    @Verta33 3 месяца назад

    Personal Preference is how I see it. Anti sounds and feels more for beginners or people who need assistance in doing tricks. Alex Broskow and a few other do well on Anti but Flat does not suck or worse than Anti... and 8 wheels is smoother surfin... 4 is slow and wears your wheels down faster!

  • @jooginz
    @jooginz Месяц назад

    could you do a review on rockered impala inline skates? reviews said it has a rockered set-up. i'm thinking of getting a pair but i don't know if they can do simple slalom moves. you have the best impala inline review videos so i hope you could make the time...

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  Месяц назад

      Thanks for saying that.
      All Impala Inline skates can have the middle wheels rockered down which will make Slalom tricks possible.
      There is probably better options out there for Slalom but the Impalas shoudln't hold you back in anyway. If you like those skates, go for it.
      I'm no slalom expert though 😅

  • @mattkamachaitis7549
    @mattkamachaitis7549 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dude there is no way skating flat is harder on your body.

  • @zachs1545
    @zachs1545 11 месяцев назад

    skated anti my whole life.. tried flat aeons one session, it sucks.. anti for life

  • @stigzroom
    @stigzroom 11 месяцев назад +5

    No excuses... flat for the win wooot wooot

  • @zernicht9r286
    @zernicht9r286 11 месяцев назад

    i skate since 1993 and if you are an aggressive inlineskater and whant grinding you are lost if you skate flat

  • @adamblackburnblacky6493
    @adamblackburnblacky6493 11 месяцев назад

    The thought of doing a full speed bs sav with a flat set up terrifies me. Anti all day

  • @leser1music
    @leser1music 11 месяцев назад +2

    Half of these don't apply to aeons

  • @embe2085
    @embe2085 11 месяцев назад

    Lino was first w this topic 😉
    Will check out later what you got to say about this ✌️

  • @PLUR-y2s
    @PLUR-y2s 10 месяцев назад +1

    man i thought ths sport was dead... i did this for years as a teen everyday for hours... back in the day you use to have to get the dremel out and make those groves yourself... i might have to get a pair of blades again

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  10 месяцев назад

      Do it! You'll have a great time. Thanks for watching!

  • @zamzamazmaz3618
    @zamzamazmaz3618 Месяц назад

    Try flt4 flat setup 😁

  • @tokalov_
    @tokalov_ 6 месяцев назад

    new fashion. Previously, everything was flat. now anti. just to sell.

  • @roscoloidian3859
    @roscoloidian3859 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is anti rocker easier to start out on? or should I start with flat

    • @yante3714
      @yante3714 11 месяцев назад

      For grinds/ switch up on rail and halfpipe id say yes anti (to learn/start)

    • @adeadlyfart13
      @adeadlyfart13 11 месяцев назад

      Depending on what type of skating you are into. IMO I prefer flat for skating transition, park skating, and street skating, and I rock anti-rocker when doing grinds. I know some dudes that just primarily skate anti because they pretty much are just grinder skaters.

    • @ima_robot91
      @ima_robot91 11 месяцев назад +2

      Definitely start with flat. When your just beginning you should put a decent amount of time getting good at just skating around and feeling comfortable in your skates.

    • @c6moneypit8
      @c6moneypit8 11 месяцев назад +2

      I have been skating aggressive for 1 year, started on Aeons and loved turning on them. When I started getting obsessed with grinding I started having wheel bite issues. Got the Richie Eisler bullet profile 59mm wheels and most of the wheel bite disappeared, but turning felt strange vs round profile wheels. Decided to go with Blank boots and Oysi Med frame and I swear I have not noticed a single case of wheel bite and they roll as fast as the Aeons and turn/carve almost as well. And I felt like my grinds progressed twice as fast once I got on the Blank/Oysi Med setup. Maybe when I start trying backside grinds I'll have issues... I'll find out in the next few months lol. I tried the Blank stock anti setup for a couple sessions but I just felt awkward with the train track feeling. I must admit, I'm really interested in the upcoming Standard Omni, I'm considering giving that a shot as an anti setup and see if I can be converted!

  • @nobotik
    @nobotik 11 месяцев назад

    #10 is the biggest reason. Skate flat if you like it, otherwise there's no point.

  • @thekamikaze789
    @thekamikaze789 11 месяцев назад +1

    freestyle ftw ;)

  • @ezrakhayyam5609
    @ezrakhayyam5609 10 месяцев назад

    What about fauxrockers ? :P

  • @julianbilchik4
    @julianbilchik4 6 месяцев назад

    Slimline 2 frame is a solution

  • @killbot350
    @killbot350 11 месяцев назад +1

    Talking bad about flat? BANNED!

  • @Spacefiddler
    @Spacefiddler 6 месяцев назад

    i got the rollerblande blank sk, to install the anti rockers that comes with them is need to remove the wheel spacers?

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  6 месяцев назад +1

      Great skate choice! No, you should only have to take the normal wheels out and put the antis straight in.

    • @Spacefiddler
      @Spacefiddler 6 месяцев назад

      thanks! @@BrandonDrummond

  • @WindLogia
    @WindLogia 11 месяцев назад

    I was anti only but now I have Aeons so I can finally gain speed

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia
    @Vercingetorix.Fantasia 11 месяцев назад

    What are those purple frames tho?

  • @valprem6401
    @valprem6401 10 месяцев назад

    #FLATNATION

  • @BTTG
    @BTTG 11 месяцев назад

    I ride flat on USD Aeon 60. Can i replace the middle wheels for anti on the same skate?

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes you can. Aeons are the best skates for skating flat. Make sure you give flat skating on them a go before you switch

    • @BTTG
      @BTTG 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BrandonDrummondYes, I've been skating Aeons for three years and really like how they ride (although soul tricks are slow). I'm injured presently, but considering riding anti-rocker when I get Back to the Grind. I hope anti-rocker will help me hold longer grinds, especially on ledges.

    • @BrandonDrummond
      @BrandonDrummond  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BTTG Sorry to hear that man. I hope youre healing up well. It is definitely easy to hold grinds skatibng anti on ledges.

  • @seang.6901
    @seang.6901 6 месяцев назад

    Anti is training wheels G. If ya can't do a trick in flat, you aren't blading properly

  • @lifao-ti8rr
    @lifao-ti8rr 11 месяцев назад

    Say one rider ou can ride more smooth than joe atkinson or an other one on flat .
    And if you can ride with flat set up you can ride with anything so you’re more accurate

  • @jaylynch3544
    @jaylynch3544 11 месяцев назад

    What a load of nonsense I've skated flat since 97 and now it's 2023 and still skate flat you just need a 56mm wheel and yes I still skate salomon St originals 😂

  • @horrorJosh
    @horrorJosh Месяц назад

    tutto vero....pero'.....e' cosi attraente il flat!........

  • @TiffianyW
    @TiffianyW 11 месяцев назад +2

    Aeons. Not a problem 😉

  • @alexboucher7886
    @alexboucher7886 11 месяцев назад +4

    Love all your videos but this one is useless. These kind of videos feel very clickbaity. Plus its just fuelling the anti vs flat divide, wich is already dumb to begin with. 10 reasons for blablabla... Just ride what feels good for you, its all very subjective. I'm 38, skated anti all my life and switched to flat a year ago. I dont see myself going back. For all the downsides I see more upsides, but that is very much subjective to my experience. My knees and lower back are thanking me though, cause the impacts are more dampened. Anyways keep it up but I wish you and Lino stop doing this kind of content.

  • @Travis732
    @Travis732 11 месяцев назад +2

    Anti till I die

  • @xxslysinxx
    @xxslysinxx 11 месяцев назад +1

    First Ricardo then Brandon! Oh no, wheres the love for flat.

    • @slim4699
      @slim4699 11 месяцев назад

      Bruh I’m thinking the same thing! What is happening?!

    • @bladeshred01
      @bladeshred01 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@slim4699They all copy each other's subjects on content just like every other RUclipsr does. When one person that leads that area makes a video the rest just follow on the same or similar subject

  • @aldocardoso5221
    @aldocardoso5221 11 месяцев назад

    Unsubscribed, this channel has been losing quality with each post and now this copycat video was just too much.

  • @JPo.404
    @JPo.404 11 месяцев назад +1

    Flat is wack

  • @KiefLedger_
    @KiefLedger_ 10 месяцев назад

    Just skate what makes you happy 😂🫡

  • @divinevirtualreality
    @divinevirtualreality 9 месяцев назад

    Best advice! I think you and Ricardo Lino hit it right on the frame. lol 😂 💯
    Bad joke I know! 🫣🫣🫣

  • @KiefLedger_
    @KiefLedger_ 10 месяцев назад

    Just skate what makes you happy 😂🫡