twelve o'clock high : S2E28 Day of Reckoning
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).
I grew up with this show back in the 60's and it's great watching all the campy episodes. Sending Stukas after B-17's. I love it.
The Luftwaffe must have been dropping 10 Lb. bombs! DEADLY! Unlike the USAAF, The Luftwaffe aircrews always wore flight helmets, NOT officer caps.
John vanDreelan plays the German in multiple episodes in this series, always killed. But he rises again for another episode.
thanks for the series enjoyed watching..
Another excellent episode - Thanks for the upload/download - whatever the proper terminology is.
Also - no u-tube commercials.
This tells me that the person posting these series episodes is not doing it for any personal gain.
I did not know that Southern England had a semi-desert with snow capped mountains.
LOL
I know that they have lots of sandy areas and the British Islands will surprise anyone who's never seen it for themselves. But no, I know of nothing that looks like a mountain with snow caps!?
There is a desert in Holland. There are snowcapped mountains in England, Wales and Scotland, but there are none near "Archbury". The B17s used to congregate around Norwich and head out over Great Yarmouth. This area and the area they were based around Essex and Cambridgeshire are particularly flat like Holland. Traditionally though they are marshy flats, I'm not aware of any desert other than in Holland.
Hans Gudegast from Rat Patrol ....Very underrated actor ..
He went on to change his name to Eric Breadon . Good actor !
Captain Dietrich (Wehrmacht - Desert Korps) is now a Major in the Luftwaffe!
One of the little-known battles of the 1960s: Irwin Allen vs. Quinn Martin---Who can use the most stock footage in a TV series?
The stock footage only enhances the videos providing veracity to the stories being told.
I understand even if some do not. QM vs IA you are right!!!!
I used to watch combat footage from Vietnam missions in our day room at RAF Lakenheth, England. Learned a lot about ordinances, time on target, and bomb damage/rapid runway repair. North regulars and V C were experts of repair after being bombed! Our Red Horse units and civil engineers trained us well. I wish everyone could have seen those war footage films. Most of the time we bombed forests and rice patties (rural areas) where Army, Navy, and Air Force intelligence said there was targets there?!?!? Most had nothing of any military importance! Poor people of Vietnam, mostly farmers!
What stock footage did IA use except his own from the movie VTTBOTS in the TV series 43:26 John Van Dreeland above played a Nazi named Schindler in THE FBI another QM hunted by Alfred Ryder the phantom U boat captain from VTTBOTS
@@spacepatrolman Allen also used footage from The Lost World on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
well now i know where the rat patrol German was reassigned
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RAT PATROL IS?
IT'S A RAT ON PATROL!
Hahahahahah
I am not sure, but I never heard of any German prisoners trying to break out of confinement in Great Britain. I read somewhere that the German staff officers were put into a rather good hotel in London with housekeeping service, good food and plenty of alcohol. The place was supposedly covered with microphones and all the conversations were recorded for analysis. I think those two Geman Majors would not have spent much time on the base.
German POWs were kept outside of Phoenix Az. Some escaped and planed to float down the Salt River. It was dry. lol
I once watched a video about two Germans who were captured in Great Britain after being shot down and they successfully stole a plane but were captured before they could get out of Great Britain
@@paulshaffer9674 The US Army hired German doctors to work in its hospitals in Germany. While stationed there in the 1970s, I met one who told me he had been a Germany Army doctor in the Afrika Korps and was held captive in Arizona according to the Geneva Convention rule that a prisoner is to be held in the type of climate in which he had been taken prisoner. It was too hot in Arizona for this doctor who then volunteered to be the doctor for the P.O.W.s working in the logging camps near the Canadian border.
Watch the film 'The One That Got Away'. No German POW escaped from the British mainland even though they escaped from confinement and we're recaptured. The only German POW that escaped did so from Canada to the USA before they joined the war. He made it back to Germany but was later killed in action.
Very good Episode
I don’t know. This reminds me of the story about General Lewis Burwell Puller (Chesty). At the time he was a Colonel. I’ll try to remember this story the best I can. The whole story is in a book titled “Marine” [The Life of General Chesty Puller]. As it would go the 1st Marine Division was fighting in Korea. There was a heated battle going on when an Enlisted Marine left a machine gun post as fast as he could to retrieve more ammo, a Chaplin with some prisoners stopped him and told him to take charge of the prisoners. The Enlisted
Marine explained he couldn’t do that because he left Marines under fire to retrieve ammo for them and he had to get back to the action. But the Chaplin ordered him to take charge of the prisoners and take them to the rear. So, the Enlisted Marine took them and a few minutes later some shots were heard because the Enlisted Marine shot and killed the prisoners. When the Chaplin heard about it, he brought charges against the Enlisted Marine and it came before Colonel Puller. I believe the Chaplin and the Enlisted Marine were there and they gave their stories. Puller dismissed the Chaplin and confirmed again with the Enlisted Marine that he had committed the acts and the Enlisted Marine verified it. With that Colonel Puller promoted the Enlisted Marine to a 2nd Lieutenant. I don’t know about any other Marines reading this but that is one of the reasons when I was in USMC Boot Camp from 1 May 1973 to 27 July 1973 those of us in the 1st Marine Division, 1st Battalion, A Company, Platoon 1048 Drill Instructors SSgt Ashworth, Sgt Vititoe and Sgt Williams heard us say at night when we hit the rack, “Good night and God Bless you Chesty where ever you are.”
@Samuel Rosenberg Who told you to think? Did you read the book. Did you serve with General Puller? Not everybody is a liar.
Another story I heard about Chesty that I don't recall was in the book or not was when he came upon an officer and an enlisted man. The enlisted man was saluting the officer over and over. Chesty asked the officer why was the enlisted man saluting him over and over and the officer replied, that the enlisted man had failed to initially salute him so the officer ordered the enlisted man to salute him 100 times. Chesty said ok, but as an officer you are required to return each salute.
Another story that is in the book and pretty popular among Marines is when the 1st Mar Div was in Korea and the troops were on the move in freezing cold weather. Chesty was in a jeep when he saw a Marine marching without a field jacket. He called the Marine over to the jeep and asked him where his jacket was. The Marine had lost it. So Chesty took off his own field jacket with the full bird and gave it to the Marine.
In the Marine Corps when an officer gives and enlisted man an order the enlisted man had better do it. However, people in different units don't usually order people in other units when there is somebody else that may be over them. The real question in this situation is, Why couldn't the Chaplin take them to the rear, instead of putting the responsibility on the wrong person. Read the book. Also you might like this book. 'The Temple Mount is in Our Hands' by General Mordechai Gur. They say the author committed suicide a few years back but the book is an outstanding read.
@Chaplain. And you have described a war crime.
At least that dammed P-47 shot down a Kraut for a change, even if he was flying one of our planes!
Love this show keeps it on you tube
At 0:33 a WRAF sarge wearing an officer's cap (with albatross and wreath badge). (W)RAF's NCOs and enlisted people wore (and still wear) a cap having the raf acronym and wreath badge
it amazes when tv shows have technical advisers and yet still stuff up
Wow.
The Germans attacked with everything - Junker 88s, Stukas, and the dreaded P-47 Thunderbolts.
This German P-47 attacked all B-17s on previous episodes.
The German aircraft in the episode were Messerschmitt Me 109
Messerschmitt Bf 110 in the German takeoff scene
Junkers Ju Stuka 87
Heinkel He 111
Junkers Ju 88
Although neither the Heinkel He 111 or Junkers Ju 88 have a copilot although Ju 88 has a navigator/bomb aimer/front gunner occupying the seat where the copilot would be.
The P-47 was used by the allies, not the Germans. They recovered a few downed P-47's but that's all.
@@BrianR. I'm guessing the lessons on "sarcasm" went over your head at school?
Herr Thunderboldt?
Maj Benz survived and can now escape, change his name and join the Rat Patrol series
Was demoted to Captain for his failure and changed his name to Dietrich to avoid embarrassment.
Yeah, right! LoL!😁😉
He always plays the a good role of the bad guy!
@@A_10_PaAng_111 or Eric Braeden
Please, don't get me wrong. I've learned a great deal from our many comments and for that I thank you all!
Rod Firefighter
Thank YOU! I've benefited too from good commentary here. Some comments are rancorous and thus disappointing but there are many like yours. I'm grateful.
If I heard an air raid siren go off, I am sure i would take cover first!
Someone should be demoted for everyone's total lack of training on how to respond to the air raid siren.
Hans before Eric Braeden, "The Young and Restless", "Rat Patrol",and Combat.
If memory serves, he was still billed as Hans Gudegast in "The Rat Patrol."
@@eileenobrien2678 Yes. He changed his name to Eric Braeden in 1970. When ho starred in the film The Forbin Project.
@William Signs Otto Hassbein (or maybe written Haßbein) -- there's a fun name! 😃
That chaplain is just too creepy.
He later played a casualty predicting colonel on MASH, who got slugged by Hawkeye
No the Germans are.
It's just Charles Aidman's low key style.
. . . 'scuse me. They would not have left prisoners, especially officers of rank, not properly guarded ANYWHERE. That means armed guards inside and outside the room if no proper guardhouse is available.
Its a TV show.
@@A_10_PaAng_111 He's right tho, they didn't even have a proper brig to put POW's temporarily inside?
What do they do for such things related to concern from own airmen? Not one place made of heavy walls and bars?
Hans gudagust changed his Name to Eric Braiden, He played Captain Hans Detriech on Rat Patrol, and Victor Newman on a Soap opera
Thank you, Mr. QM Announcer for telling us how to pronounce Eric Braeden's real name.
I thot it was Hans Dietrich or Victor Neuman. LOL
Yes!
It's only television, not real life.
The base security system needs a complete overhaul.
In reality this would have been a very boring episode.
Hans Gudegast - Hauptmann Dietrich - flying!
He gets around - another all purpose German
Take off at 10 am. Are these guys working banking hours. lol
No, you go when the mission dictated! Lots of supplies, personnel, equipment, fuel, armor meant, and coordination of timing just to get the bombers rolling at 1000 hours. The take off time could be any hour of any day or night. I'm thankful for you that you do not realize that!
Seem the German flying officers where filmed in the cockpit of an DC3
Real soldiers would have checked the dead
Yah thats too convenient, it is natural intuition to see through that
I think an interesting trivia question would be: How many Purple Hearts have Gallagher and Komansky?
In the first 28 episodes the most dangerous job is co-pilot by far. I think only 3 survive a mission. There's one episode where co-pilots get shot up three times. Guest Star in a co-pilot seat is a dead man walking...
@@rollosnook WWII's very own "red-shirt." How many times was Piccadilly Lilly shot down and totally destroyed? Every Lilly shot down was a B-17 D which means the ones knocked down in 1944 and 1945 could not have been replacements given a used name. A couple of times it was even a B-29. In the end, we much console ourselves with the knowledge it is not a documentary but rather a flying soap opera. If that is a problem, watch something else. Hollywood is well aware the most powerful object in the universe is the TV control.
I doubt they'd have as many as Sgt. Saunders ... or for that matter - anyone else in his squad.
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Chaplain's taking an active part in War is nothing new. A Chaplain at Pearl Harbor acted as a second loader for one of the deck guns firing at the Japanese
The German Capt from Rat Patrol is in this episode.
I've always liked Eric Braeden.
Hitler privately assured General Gerhard Engel in 1941 that "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
Funny, when the firts bomb hits the ground nobody screams "SH*T!!!" like normal people would do. Regards
9:00
Or worse
Even though Robert Landsing is gone, Paul Burke seems to grow on you. pretty good actor..except Paul needs to look you in the eyes when he speaks to another...
He doesn't do it all the time.
Paul Burke was an outstanding actor.
Thank you for Hat tips to Paul Burke. He can surely use them on occasion!
I was wondering why the bomber bases did have cap cover from fighters?
actually they did! mainly from the RAF! THE BRITISH CONTINUED TO PROVIDE AIR DEFENCE OF THE COUNTRY UNTIL THE LAST DAY OF THE WAR. they had the radar chains and all the original fighter bases, so they would have tried to intercept any attack, but the Germans did in fact made surprise raids with some success. and in March 1944 German long range fighters and bombers attacked 8TH air force bomber bases in England as they were returning from their missions, surprise was achieved and some 22 bombers were destroyed in the air or mostly on the ground, it was a surprise tactic that was quite successful on this occasion.
I'm certain if I had not found a muffler with springs by Honecken Castle in 1964 ,it was an entertaining we ran all the way to volgleway over an old sign in the leaves ,(actung minen ,I might be famous as all they find )
I lived in Vogelwhe. 88 - 91. Stationed at Ramstien AFB. A few miles away. Saw the devastating effect of the bombing of USAFE Headquarters. I was an Air Defense Artillery NCO. Missile and 20 mm Gun System mix. Along with our own RADARS. My Son was born in LARMC 1989.
Great movie Charles Aidman Played Wild Wild West -- John VanDreelen--Played The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew---- HansGudast Played Rat Patrol
The Germans had cool flight jackets. They shouldn’t have given the guard a loaded gun- only the guards outside should have been armed.
One of the "bombs" that the Germans dropped on the raid (10.06) was a V1 Doodlebug. One of the few, but very well known shots of it happening.
"Not just for dive-bombing anymore!"
WHY CAN'T WE GET THE UN-CUT VERSION OF THIS PROGRAM, ABOUT 7 MINUTES MISSING, MOSTLY FLYING SCENES! PLEASE HAVE THIS CORRECTED. THANK YOU
I agree.
Me too . This episode worst so far. Most others great. This is the bad that proves the rule.
Haha, allready the fourth episode with John van Dreelen, a Dutch actor, as an German officer.
Yeah, it's called acting.
No base detention cells or a local police station until the military can pick them up? Not exactly one of the most believable episodes.
Likely corners cut to move the action...
The real combat footage in this series is generally very good and well used. Stukas over England in 43-44 or anytime used as fighters is a glaring contradiction to this. Overall, much better than a "documentary" that showed Tiger II tanks while discussing the invasion of Poland in 1939, or Combat with German tank footage of the Poland invasion as France in the last half of 1944. (Although now that we can binge-watch, the real footage used is limited and "recycled" for use in many episodes. Something as a kid watching broadcasts of the original weekly series I never noticed.)
Oh boy a P47 strafing a US Air Base. This episode is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
at 16:25 eatinzee yah. Hilarious I know not PC to laugh but hilarious!!!
Screw the PC!
Is like in "Battleground!", taunting the German emissaries demanding surrender during the Battle Of The Bulge
(blowing smoke rings in their faces periodically)
Speaken ze English?
How bout some nice K-rations?...
(smoke ring)
Schokolade- JYA?
(another smoke ring in their faces)
Cigaretten?
(Kip leans in)
Loosen up chum, give us the lowdown!
You can talk now!
- HITLER KAPUT!
Good god, Is that german actor still on that daytime soap opera? That was 60 years ago...
44:44 The Nazis didn't teach their soldiers that there was no God. The SS had "Gött mitt uns," (God is with us) inscribed on their belt buckles and ceremonial daggers. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that they were doing God's work persecuting the Jews.
These guys running into the explosions lol
Safest place during an air raid IS the bomb dump?
The reason why Cologne Cathedral is still standing, is because the RAF used it as the aiming point...
I know that you know Rod - but could you explain why?
German medium bombers wouldn't of got anywhere near London or in land Air Bases in daylight in 1943.
The British had a vast RADAR network set up. They could see the German Bombers and would send fighters out to meet them.
500 lb - or 200kg - bomb lands 50 ft behind them and nobody's killed by the blast or shrapnel. Yeah, whatever...
Hahaha,it's TV DUH! ever watch a Rambomovie? this is light years ahead in authenticity!
A B-17 could easily outrun a Heinkel 111 and shoot it down. There are cars that drive faster than a Heinkel...
more than 224mph?
Yikes this one has way too many dumb moments in it, although I did like that clever trick they pulled on the flying German towards the end
If you remember hitlers quotes and "God Mit Uns" on the German soldier belt buckle
"The nazis taught that there is no god", that is such crap!
Hmm average age of the German pilots is about 49-50
great show. they don't make like these any more steve usn ret
Pretty weedy bombs those Germans use. They don't even leave a crater.
I guess the RAF was off-duty that day. What an absurd story line.
They went for action regardless, apparently.
I had forgotten about to TV program exception to the rule officers cannot ask enlisted persons for a date.
typo lol the tv program exception
I hate to see a beautiful aircraft like the P-51 get shot down, such a waste !!!
Hans gudegast before he became Eric Braeden
44:03 TWILIGHTS LAST GLEAMING a film bomber pilot Senator George Mcgovern said every American should see
I used to speak to George Mcgovern when he would come to the South Dakota School of Mines in Rapid City where I was getting my master's degree. We grad students would debate with him and listen to his take on politics. He was extremely intelligent and probably would have made a good president. He, too, was a bomber pilot in WWII. I truly enjoyed the man and he was not much like what the news and his political opponents painted him as......he had integrity. That was after 'Nam and I had buried four of my buddies. Keep the Faith.
@@tomnekuda3818 He didn't brag about it like some other candidates when he didn't win the election he worked at the UN [ I used to know the announcer Don Pardo he said he met Jimmy carter and he was the kindest nicest man he ever met
@@spacepatrolman I really like Carter. I wanted to go and help him build houses but my doggone health tanked recently. He seems to be making a good recovery after his fall.
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Yanks usually say krauts not jerries!
Padre should have been arrested for shooting parachuting airman. Even if he was enemy Luftwaffe airman.
CLOSING THEME 45:30
So, I guess Captain Dietrich was evacuated from North Africa and then joined the Luftwaffe (I'm joking. Han Gudegast was the unlucky German Afrika Corps Captain in the series, "The Rat Patrol").
No, he was the lucky German on the Rat Patrol. He always survived each episode.
24:20 STING CHORDS
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38:34
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41:08
Like how they always show a P-47 shooting as though it was a Kruat aircraft. Lame!
2:46 OPENING THEME
Sorry, but that P-51D would be long gone.
You mean it wasn't in England yet.
that damn P 47 attacked from the right this time. Who gave the Germans a Thunderbolt.?
The producers.
Well, the Season Two scripts are getting more ridiculous and inane by the week! Let's make a brief list. 1) A German air commander and 3 of his colleagues lead an air raid that destroys half of an air base and kills 27 military men. The raid takes place in broad daylight, yet the RAF sends no plane up to try and defend it, and the base has nothing but two gunners to defend it. 2) The new enlistees don't bother to go to a shelter or try to defend the base, because they assume the German jets are just passing overhead. 3) A single soldier is left to guard the 4 captured Germans, who are left unrestricted in a large room. 4) The prisoners are then given candles and metal cans, since nobody guessed that they could be used to create incendiary devices. 5) Sergeant Kamansky and 2 others are not smart enough to think about checking under the covers to see if the prisoners might be hiding under them. 6) Komansky and 3 other armed men then enter the chapel, but don't bother to address or look at the guard. I mean, I know in TV or films you can allow for some imagination, but a 5-yr-old would not find this believable!
Can't argue with you here. A comprehensive study of TV themeatics.
I'm learning to be grateful since Star Trek Fare is now being offered up for closer analysis these days, which is needed. I love the Original Series but it has been treated as the beginning of a "religion" and both something claiming perfection and NOT to be examined.
It's been "fun" to look over Trek "critically" since there 's more to learn here than nodding in assent regardless of the warts.
PS. Please disregard the balance of the previous comment. It was to be delivered elsewhere AND should have been better edited. As for 12 OClock High and other shows, the new technologies allow us to re examine these old shows, hopefully to see the best in them, not just the "issues".
@@AdmiralNelson1000 I remember wondering what you meant. As for this show, for me part of the fun is the ability to review old series and compare my own assessments with what viewers and reviewers at the time thought about it. After viewing year one and seeing what an incredibly groundbreaking series it was, it is painful to see and difficult to understand why in the world a network would take such a superlative team and product and ruin both of them, by the inexplicable replacement of Lansing by Burke, and the hiring of a new team of writers to write silly soap episodes instead of hourlong classics.
Oh, no need at all to take cover in an air raid shelter; just assume they're going to pass over a legitimate military target to engage in terror bombing of the civilian population in broad daylight. What's truly remarkable about this awful series is that it was made less than two decades after WW2 when most of the adult audience had personal recollection of the events. If it were made today you could probably excuse these gaffes - at least a lot of them would escape notice by a 21st Century audience.
They were trying to sell a TV show! And they did a good job methinks! Good TV, surprisingly good authentiicity and good acting and directing. What's your beef?
If you think this show is so awful, why do you watch it?
Chaplain irresponsibility equals unrealistic thought process. Air raid ignored even by Sandy, really?? Ridiculous.!
Hey Victor Newman stole on a chaplan.🙏😇
The Colonel was wrong in saying that a man of God is not a saint (19:29). If you're a man of God (male or female), then you're a saint (church of God) according to the holy scriptures, sanctified in Christ Jesus (who is the Word of God), by His holy blood through the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 1:2). The Chaplain (Who should be well-versed in the bible) should know that even more. Ministering (through the words of God in the holy scriptures) to the eternal spirit and soul (mind, will, emotions) of man in those tough times is where the Chaplain should shine the most.
The first 2
Not bad but way too easy for the Germans, especially the prisoners!
A plane driver isn’t used to seeing the faces of those they kill
Plane driver? Ever tried to be a pilot? Thought not.
Chaplains are. useless in general.