They should make freeze-dry base 75, cause most of the pokemon that learn it don't have that good spa anyway besides bundle, and even bundle fell off in vgc
running it in draft atm as my tera captain and oblivious curse swept an intimidate spam team lol why does oblivious block intimidate i also ran it vs a rain team with hydration ddance rest but i forgot to run coverage for bronzong :(
I once saw someone refer to quag and ditto as canaries in the coal mine for upper tiers. When they begin to appear, something sinister has occured. Set up sweepers everywhere
0:50 Ubers UU mentioned! Fun fact: For around one month, there was a period of time in Ubers UU when Quagsire was considered better than Dondozo at being an unaware user due to the fact that even though Dondozo could take hits a lot better, Quagsire could actually make progress thanks to spikes and toxic, while Dondozo was stuck dealing 11-20% to most things. Sadly, at the current moment, Quagsire is now outclassed, as Chien-Pao (a Pokemon that 50/50 runs band or Swords dance) can break past it even through unaware with sheer power, flinches and defense drops.
Gastrodon and quagsire being capable to say "FCK THAT GUY IN PARTICULAR" and that one guy is literally the water god or the most broken dog in pokemon history is the most pokemon moment i ever seen and i love it!!!
Powercreep hasn't been kind to it, but I like its versatility a lot: solid lead and tank, Curse sweeper, swole rain striker, and even some goofy stuff like CounterCoat or Sub-Puncher in earlier gens. Tools like Flip Turn and now Knock Off have also been a blessing in later gens. Swampert is the GOAT 👏
@@flyingoctopus4304 That's because DNite has kept getting tools from Phys Outrage in gen 4, Multiscale in Gen 5, Weakness Policy in gen 6, Flynium Z in gen 7, DMax speed boosting in gen 8 and not losing much in gen 8 move dexit, and finally Normal Tera ESpeed in gen 9. Watch it get Dragon Ascent in gen 10.
@@flyingoctopus4304 ehh I'd say that by definition powercreep hasn't really been good to any pokemon but some have definitely weathered it better than others. Good candidates would be Chansey, Skarmory, and Zapdos until gen 9 finally dethroned it
I adore Quagsire. He does slowbro’s oblivious shtick much better in my eyes. He’s genuinely adorable. Also, I’m a little iffy about him competitively. Or more accurately this is just my coward way of saying I avoid gen 2 rands on showdown cuz I still get nightmares when I use an electric and get a sire switch on me. ptsd.
quagsire and gastrodon were both used on my teams in gen 4. it's awesome to see they still see play in the strongest formats. some of my favorite pokemon ever.
Which is kinda why me & my brother believe that GameFreak discontinued making new Water/Ground mons since the typing is often good outside of Whishcash due to it's weakness to Freeze-Dry & touching grass, and why I'd dread seeing the day we get a natural Ground/Fairy mon, especially if it has good stats.
Actually Quagsire was UUBL in gen 7 because stall was pretty broken in gen7 and unlike the other core of the stall team, quagsire was the only one to good only on stall unlike the other memebers so it was the only one to be reasonable to be banned without affecting much else from the tier but I’m just being way too much of a nerd right now 🤓
I started following competitive pokemon in gen 8 and in my mind I had seismitoad like a top tier pokemon, years later I understood it was all dracovishes doing lmao
Gastrodon is unironically my favorite Pokemon. I didn't know squat about competitive or stats when I was playing through the story of my first Pokemon game, Moon; all I discovered was that the Gastrodon I caught to fill the dex DID NOT DIE (as long as you didn't have a Grass move). Thus began the reign of Bubbles, the Unkillable. To this day, she is one of my dearest partners, on par with my first starter. She is a sea slug (epic) who screams and canonically eats sand and can take a STAB draco meteor to the face (at least from NPC trainers). I love her very much.
The Quagsire Theorem: When through a number of factors a pokemon that is just not particularly good drastically overperforms against the meta. Named after Quagsire because that empty-headed MFer keeps doing it every generation. "You're not even that good in low tier what are you doing in Ubers?!" "Iunno." "What did you just do to my +3 Zacian!?" "Iunno."
In Gsc ou quagsire has quite cool niche of walling zap/raikou altho hp water/ice can still hurt a bit altho its preety great at using belly drum after whole opposing team is paralyzed since at +6 only few mons like skarm or exeguttor can maybe ko it after or live its hits
Yeah the only quad weak type that naturally has no real weakness due to innate moveset coverage. Ice beam on every one of these irritable nasties. I just wish more fire types had energy ball or petal blizzard to rip and tear these nightmares apart.
Damn I can’t believe the main villain of this arc was revealed. I don’t know how Boingus is gonna deal with this guy unless they calls upon the power of friendship. Arc 2 better give a redemption arc to Seismitoad, my guess is Arctovish set it up and Seismitoad was just an unwitting puppet to the true villain.
A defensively invested water/ground type is just really, really annoying for so many meta games because the things that counter it (offensive grass types or grass type coverage) are near useless against anything else. There are also a ton of meta staples that just… can’t really deal with these mons effectively, especially if they have a secondary trait like unaware or a water immunity. The existence of these pokemon throws all your prep out the window. Your water type can’t counter their ground type, and your electric type can’t counter their water type, your grass type is nonexistent because the steel type exists, and suddenly every plan you had just vanishes. I’m speaking from experience of playing against gastrodon in draft leagues. It just invalidates half the stuff you do that works in every other circumstance.
Who would win? The personification, as well as the creator, of the entire worlds seas, a 350 kg whale with the power to drown the world, Or, One slimey littl slug boi
''near perfect counter to zacian'' i mean, yes thats correct, but he's as much of a counter to zacian as a baby is a counter to a speeding train. Still its better than everything else.
Gastrodon is a perfect example of everything wrong with Gen 5. Permament bottom-tier lifer; jumps to Top 5 OU just because of Drizzle. Also poor Wiscash. "Every water/ground type shows up exactly where it is needed". I guess Wiscash's place is the bin. Poor thing came out at the same time as Swampert but was worse Swampert.
@ElectricWindGirlFriend I didn't think I'd like pre gen 4 metagames because of the physical special split not being there but they've really grown on me. I feel more lax in older metagames as the current gen seems to have so much coverage and pressure to perform.
ubers uu. it's a new tier that's made up of all the ubers that aren't good in ubers. it exists because there's so many ubers now as more generations go by.
Игры
"only weak to grass" *Selects Freeze Dry*
TRUE
Quagsire isn't like touch grass
**Put Grass Knot on Samurot in MMO**
Guys,i have idea!
They should make freeze-dry base 75, cause most of the pokemon that learn it don't have that good spa anyway besides bundle, and even bundle fell off in vgc
@@rashawn3718isn't bundle way better now in the age of Mireidon being legal?
*This post was made by Alolan Ninetales gang*
big rip for whiscash
running it in draft atm as my tera captain and oblivious curse swept an intimidate spam team lol why does oblivious block intimidate
i also ran it vs a rain team with hydration ddance rest but i forgot to run coverage for bronzong :(
real lmao
Good news for the whiscash fandom, shadow whiscash is actually meta in go! GBL is where the mons go that are the exact right level of bad
whiscash quagsire and swampert rule the pokemon go meta (clodsire is an honorary member of the committee) gastrodon and seismitoad suck though
I'm Wonder trading in SV and I got a Whiscash as I read this lmao
I just love how every single Water/Ground type is friend-shaped.
Is Swampert really though? Honestly Mega Swampert is a gym bro but regular?
@@Zwijger *Yes, yes they are.*
They even look like they give nice hugs!
They sure are.
Seismitoad looks more shady-guy-in-a-dark-alley-shaped to me tho
true as hell they should make a water ground type that looks like an arsehole though
What is a god to one unaware of it's power - Quagsire to Zacian
What is god to a non-believer?
Lol, very true.
"I am become Death, destroyer of fish." - Seismitoad, clicking Earthquake after being dropped in front of a rain-boosted Fishious Rend
I once saw someone refer to quag and ditto as canaries in the coal mine for upper tiers. When they begin to appear, something sinister has occured. Set up sweepers everywhere
02:30 boingus being upset at the fact that he's talking about his counter is a really nice touch
Like Quagsire, I too find myself in random tears throughout the day.
feels like one of those "So glad we have NOT YOU such great X thing" memes lmao, rip whiscash
The "MUD" type, Meta UnderDog
Swampert...my glorious king....
0:50 Ubers UU mentioned!
Fun fact: For around one month, there was a period of time in Ubers UU when Quagsire was considered better than Dondozo at being an unaware user due to the fact that even though Dondozo could take hits a lot better, Quagsire could actually make progress thanks to spikes and toxic, while Dondozo was stuck dealing 11-20% to most things. Sadly, at the current moment, Quagsire is now outclassed, as Chien-Pao (a Pokemon that 50/50 runs band or Swords dance) can break past it even through unaware with sheer power, flinches and defense drops.
I thought chien pao was b+ in ubers vr why did it fall to ubers uu
@@theschnozzler Because Ladder. As an example, Ape was above the 4.52 usage until the DLC1 dropped. Terapagos was also in Ubers until last month
Hi how the fuck do you get sheer power on a Chien-Pao
@@hyliasknight coz it's very strong. It doesn't need sheer force when it destroys everything without it
Gastrodoodle casually showing up to hard counter the personification of the ocean is hilarious and is by favourite Pokemon to use in vgc
I giggled at the Seismitoad slide. Poor Boingus.
Maybe the true saviors are the friends we made along the way
Best comment btw! And also true!
Gastrodon and quagsire being capable to say "FCK THAT GUY IN PARTICULAR" and that one guy is literally the water god or the most broken dog in pokemon history is the most pokemon moment i ever seen and i love it!!!
Watching this on half speed cuz I didn’t take my ADHD meds today
Also the Pokémon are just plain awesome
LMAO boingus on the seismitoad section
LMAO the dracovish text bubble 😂😂
Powercreep hasn't been kind to it, but I like its versatility a lot: solid lead and tank, Curse sweeper, swole rain striker, and even some goofy stuff like CounterCoat or Sub-Puncher in earlier gens. Tools like Flip Turn and now Knock Off have also been a blessing in later gens.
Swampert is the GOAT 👏
To be fair, the only 'mon powercreep has been kind to is Dragonite I think. But yeah, Flip Turn is real nice.
@@flyingoctopus4304 That's because DNite has kept getting tools from Phys Outrage in gen 4, Multiscale in Gen 5, Weakness Policy in gen 6, Flynium Z in gen 7, DMax speed boosting in gen 8 and not losing much in gen 8 move dexit, and finally Normal Tera ESpeed in gen 9. Watch it get Dragon Ascent in gen 10.
@@flyingoctopus4304 ehh I'd say that by definition powercreep hasn't really been good to any pokemon but some have definitely weathered it better than others. Good candidates would be Chansey, Skarmory, and Zapdos until gen 9 finally dethroned it
@@kingdogg94 Zapdos was done dirty by no coverage.
I adore Quagsire. He does slowbro’s oblivious shtick much better in my eyes. He’s genuinely adorable.
Also, I’m a little iffy about him competitively. Or more accurately this is just my coward way of saying I avoid gen 2 rands on showdown cuz I still get nightmares when I use an electric and get a sire switch on me. ptsd.
Seismitoad... The one thing that keeps Boingus up all night
quagsire is the saviour of gen 8 anything goes
I just now realized I'm not subscribed... thank the algorithm that your vids show up in my feed. Time to sub-a-dub.
Quagsire is just Unaware of which tier it's suppose to be in.
Hey I love your videos I always watch while eating lunch :)
quagsire and gastrodon were both used on my teams in gen 4. it's awesome to see they still see play in the strongest formats. some of my favorite pokemon ever.
At 3:19 I 100% thought you were going to say “the water-ground type is a pathway to many abilities some consider unnatural”
thank you so much for making your presentation
Quagsire mentioned, goated video
Okay im here
Zacian: WHY AREN'T MY BOOSTS WORKING?
Swagsire: :]
good content man, keep it up
shoutout to freeze dry ❤
I LOVE YAWN AND WALLING ZACIAN!!!!
Which is kinda why me & my brother believe that GameFreak discontinued making new Water/Ground mons since the typing is often good outside of Whishcash due to it's weakness to Freeze-Dry & touching grass, and why I'd dread seeing the day we get a natural Ground/Fairy mon, especially if it has good stats.
Quagsire is Clodsire's senpai.
Will we get some videos on the rest of the Reggies?
Not totally sure how I’d approach them but it could def happen
I know this isn't related to the main series games
But Shadow Whiscash is one of the best mons in Pokémon Go pvp
Its the ultimate core breaker
And one day. One day, Whiscash will be good. It’s happened to every other Water/Ground type, so it’s just a matter of time, right? Please?
Smogon: ‘Quagsire, you’re Never Used this generation’
Quagsire: ‘what’s a tier?’
My favorite type combo, both because they tend to be really good and because they're all friends
I love the squishy bois so much
Actually Quagsire was UUBL in gen 7 because stall was pretty broken in gen7 and unlike the other core of the stall team, quagsire was the only one to good only on stall unlike the other memebers so it was the only one to be reasonable to be banned without affecting much else from the tier but I’m just being way too much of a nerd right now 🤓
quag was robbed of PU domination (idk what happens in gen 7 pu)
Nice video! Hey Ewgf, what is your favorite pokemon?
The quag
I've played so many gen 3 nuzlockes that my team feels incomplete without a bulky water/ground to switch to
Theres something hilarious about charizard's never ending flare blitz animation with quagsire standing unfazed
I started following competitive pokemon in gen 8 and in my mind I had seismitoad like a top tier pokemon, years later I understood it was all dracovishes doing lmao
Gastrodon is unironically my favorite Pokemon.
I didn't know squat about competitive or stats when I was playing through the story of my first Pokemon game, Moon; all I discovered was that the Gastrodon I caught to fill the dex DID NOT DIE (as long as you didn't have a Grass move). Thus began the reign of Bubbles, the Unkillable. To this day, she is one of my dearest partners, on par with my first starter.
She is a sea slug (epic) who screams and canonically eats sand and can take a STAB draco meteor to the face (at least from NPC trainers). I love her very much.
Quagsire: I don't let tiers define me.
Hoping to see a Water/Ground with Sap Sipper one day
Quagsire, never the defensive pivot we deserve but always the defensive pivot we need. He's just too unaware to know what a tier is.
......and then there's Whiscash...
None of these Pokémon are “saviours”. The true saviour of Pokémon is Clodsire
The Quagsire Theorem: When through a number of factors a pokemon that is just not particularly good drastically overperforms against the meta. Named after Quagsire because that empty-headed MFer keeps doing it every generation. "You're not even that good in low tier what are you doing in Ubers?!" "Iunno." "What did you just do to my +3 Zacian!?" "Iunno."
Grass Knot coverage move users: "Unaware ?"
hoping we one day get a water ground type with sap sipper, purely because I think it would be a fun gimmick.
So real
At one point in Gen 5 when I was frustrated by the proliferation of strong dragons, I wondered how Garchomp being Water/Ground would affect the game.
GASTRODON YAY!!
Can't wait for "Flying/Ground types: Shutting down teams"
Gastrodon is awesome, I love them.
Quagsire goes into the Tier it wants and everyone has to Deal with it
In Gsc ou quagsire has quite cool niche of walling zap/raikou altho hp water/ice can still hurt a bit altho its preety great at using belly drum after whole opposing team is paralyzed since at +6 only few mons like skarm or exeguttor can maybe ko it after or live its hits
Yeah the only quad weak type that naturally has no real weakness due to innate moveset coverage. Ice beam on every one of these irritable nasties. I just wish more fire types had energy ball or petal blizzard to rip and tear these nightmares apart.
I hate this typing cause I don’t like tanky mons, and it’s such a frustrating combo. I’m just glad it doesn’t have a mon with sap sipper.
Damn I can’t believe the main villain of this arc was revealed. I don’t know how Boingus is gonna deal with this guy unless they calls upon the power of friendship.
Arc 2 better give a redemption arc to Seismitoad, my guess is Arctovish set it up and Seismitoad was just an unwitting puppet to the true villain.
with my two goats in the thumbnail let's gooo
swagsire
We love some quagsire representation!
My baby Gastrodon!!! I lovem them all 😊
Quagsire is the best pokemon ever created, and I will be taking no questions at this time.
2:28
What do you search for the result to be like bottom-left picture? (Asking because I have no idea and want to know)
I looked up “dam” and then added everything else myself. I make a large chunk of my graphics like that.
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend I meant that sponge one with Kyogre.
@@wittingcave5591 oh oops. I just kinda searched up “sponge” filtered by kitchen, and scrolled till I found one like this.
Correct me if I'm wrong but pre-Unaware I'm pretty sure Quagsire used Water Absorb to some success.
*Alolan Ninetales entered the chat* 😃
Poor whiscash
Have to remember that while quagsure's aren't great but it's still bulker than zapdos physically
A defensively invested water/ground type is just really, really annoying for so many meta games because the things that counter it (offensive grass types or grass type coverage) are near useless against anything else. There are also a ton of meta staples that just… can’t really deal with these mons effectively, especially if they have a secondary trait like unaware or a water immunity.
The existence of these pokemon throws all your prep out the window. Your water type can’t counter their ground type, and your electric type can’t counter their water type, your grass type is nonexistent because the steel type exists, and suddenly every plan you had just vanishes.
I’m speaking from experience of playing against gastrodon in draft leagues. It just invalidates half the stuff you do that works in every other circumstance.
gastrodon is my favorite pokemon :)
Who would win? The personification, as well as the creator, of the entire worlds seas, a 350 kg whale with the power to drown the world,
Or,
One slimey littl slug boi
''near perfect counter to zacian'' i mean, yes thats correct, but he's as much of a counter to zacian as a baby is a counter to a speeding train. Still its better than everything else.
can someone tell me why is gen 3 called "ADV"?
Advance as in game boy Advance
4 Minutes and only 140 views. Electric wind girlfriend with a tragic fall off
Gastrodon is a perfect example of everything wrong with Gen 5. Permament bottom-tier lifer; jumps to Top 5 OU just because of Drizzle.
Also poor Wiscash. "Every water/ground type shows up exactly where it is needed". I guess Wiscash's place is the bin. Poor thing came out at the same time as Swampert but was worse Swampert.
Friend whats your favorite generation/tier?
GSC OU, ADV OU, and Gen 9 PU are all really fun atm
@ElectricWindGirlFriend I didn't think I'd like pre gen 4 metagames because of the physical special split not being there but they've really grown on me. I feel more lax in older metagames as the current gen seems to have so much coverage and pressure to perform.
Gastrodon is my favourite. I for one am an advocate of slug supremacy
Pokémon GO great league players’ noses are bleeding rn
Tiers? Quagsire don't care about tiers, it goes where it wants.
@ElectricWindGirlFriend make a vid on yanmega (its pretty damn good)
Quag was uubl in gen 7 not 8
Man really forgot about Whiscash (yes I know it sucks)
barboach :)
0:49 Scarlet & Violet *_WHAT_*
ubers uu. it's a new tier that's made up of all the ubers that aren't good in ubers. it exists because there's so many ubers now as more generations go by.
begging for a VGC sister channel pls
:)
HEY HEY HEY WHAT THE FUCK
Poor Wiscash, the weak link of the group
What's with the catfish hate man
SAVIORS???
imo yeah. water grounds tend to handle crazy strong threats each generation, that would be insane without them.