I mean, if the ability Immunity doesn't give an immunity to poison types, why would a Pastel Veil do that? So yeah, they both should have worked like that, but the obvious problem is that poison attacks already kinda sucks, so making even more pokemon resistant or immune to it would be almost disrespectful. If they buffed poison first, and then buffed those abilities, everything would be better
@dasamont8274 Agree. Personally I would have had Poison be super effective against Fighting, because what's all that lifting doing to protect you from cyanide?
This is the first time I've seen your channel, but I'm definitely coming back. By the way, from my vgc main knowledge, both wind rider and wind power actually activate more than you'd think, because icy wind and all of the genie storms are meta. For this reason, wind rider brambleghast has actually won regionals before XD. On the other hand, this only works because wind rider makes you immune, so yeah wind power is hot garbage. Great vid!
I have a feeling the Icy Wind interaction doesn't go well for Kilo. I'm imaging it usually goes before the genie, but then after getting hit by Icy Wind it probably gets KOed before it can take advantage of the boost due to the lowered speed Hearing Brambleghast find some success is nice to hear
Vgc (doubles or whatever) , ice breath etc. basically removes the randomness from it but makes it a different version of belly drum. Wouldnt reccomend ice breath specifically for krook ._.
Color change is up there for absolutely awful abilities by making you the same type as whatever move hit you, but I'd like to make special note of the rom hack Pokemon Elite Redux where they changed color change to be one of the best abilities in the game. In Elite Redux you change to resist the incoming attack before it hits you making you have no weaknesses, every resist, and every immunity all at the same time.
@@GeorgeDCowley I don't really understand what you're trying to say. But I'll be a bit more specific. It makes you a type that would resist, not turn you into the type that's about to hit you. For example: Dark plus would turn you into a fighting, dark, or fairy type, but dragon pulse would make you always become fairy type to be immune.
I feel like Starmie is really hampered by its abilities. The fact that it doesn’t have Regenerator or even a new Beam-focused multiplier ability is criminal for an otherwise great Pokémon.
I knew of grassy pelt and pastel veil cause I like the mons 😭 especially galarian rapidash's I always used her in gigantamax garbodor raids just in case people didn't use steel types
I just looked into darmanitan the other day because I kinda wanna play it, cool ass mon, kinda sad the awesome zen mode gimmick gets far outpaced by gorilla tactics and sheer force, two of the best abilities in the game!
Pastel Veil should make you immune to Poison moves , not just Poison itself Or maybe (makes way less sense) flare boost but for poison + you don’t take damage But yea the second one is a huge reach
I disagree with Gorilla Tactics being strictly superior to Zen Mode for G-Darmanitan primarily bc 9/10 times I don’t like having to lock myself into one move and potentially screw myself in the endgame. Zen G-Darm does take some time to set up but the sheer firepower you get rewarded with is totally worth it.
I wouldn't say it's strictly superior, but it is a far more powerful ability than what you get for Zen Mode. In a world where G-Darm has sheer force it never even gets discussed for a ban
Grassy pelt is actually quite good in a monotype context. You are practically guaranteed to be running a grassy surge mon in mono grass and in grassy terrain gogoat is one of your best if not your best physical tank options. Notably it has access to a reliable recovery option when ferrothorn doesn’t and horn leach boosted by terrain is also handy on a mon meant to take hits. And then there’s pokerogue which decided to let gogoat have grassy surge and grassy pelt at the same time making it go from viable alternative to ferrothorn in a grass monotype context to by far the best terrain setter
I didn't even consider monotype, this makes a lot of sense though. And Milk Drink is a nice option for Mr. Goat, so yeah I guess as far as monograss goes that's the best you can get
@@accelgortuss4573 yeah but between the two gogoat has a much better natural learnset. Notably having bulk up via level up alongside a reliable recovery move with that much physical bulk allow you to turn that massive physical bulk provided by the ability combo into a win condition in rival fights gym fights ect
In Legends Z-A, GameFreak please bring abilities into it and give Grass Pelt a buff that it needs. Just make it so it's defense doubles and Special Defense of itself and allies receive a 50% boost. That would at least have some better staying power for taking many more hits.
another ability that's totally forgotten is merciless for toxapex. it's a really good ability, causing any attack against a poisoned opponent to be a guaranteed critical hit. pairing this ability with hex and venoshock makes for a fun sweeper build. unfortunately, nobody uses the ability since toxapex is always used as a stalling regenerator user
You can pair it up with a salazzle using poison gas with the corrosion ability for some solid offense. The only unfortunate part is that you become very weak to earthquake.
If stall were on something like a bulky flip turn/volt switch/uturn mom i could see the use there. Sableye is unfortunately not that so we'll never know
@@douwemusic no it will always make him go last because it bypasses trickroom entirely. Think of it as like -0.5 priority if that helps. It's not actually negative priority but it's always last in the bracket
Kilowattrel was actually used early in Gen 9 VGC when the dex was a lot more limited, actually. Specifically, it was a tailwind setter with its speed stat, and then could pivot into a one time use nuke with Charge boosted Discharge.
@@Portobello-Mushroom all good LOL, and FWIW Kilowattrel was a niche pick at the time and got powercrept out the moment paradox pokemon got added. More novel is Brambleghast being meta for one of the rulesets, though-that one really caught people off guard.
I genuinely think Galarian Rapidash is one of the most forgettable Pokemon ever. It's by far the most forgettable Galarian Pokemon, and its not even famous for being forgettable like lets say Lumineon. I choose to believe this mon is a myth, and it was only made for September 2023 35 Pokes (where it did jackshit lmao)
@@johnmartinez7440 blunder (Pokemon player) got sweeped by a Galarian Zen Darmantian without any help from any other mins, the darmanitan killed all of blunders team
IMHO many anti-status abilities, like Water Veil, Magma Armor, etc, should have worked like Pastel Veil and apply the protection to the partymate too. While at it, have the ability reduce damage from the associated type for the party too. I bet Galarian Rapidash would have appreciated taking less damage from Poison.
Somebody else said to me that Pastel Veil should provide a poison immunity and I think would've been cool since Galarian Rapidash doesn't have much going for it
@@Portobello-Mushroom If it's just for itself yeah, being immune to Poison-type moves might be pretty great. It'll be a Fairy that hunts down Poison-types. Reducing the Poison damage for partymate I still think would also be nice. Would allow it to support fellow Fairies.
Although given the current nerf to all recovery moves now as of Scarlet and Violet I'm sure more people are using Merciless now right? Please tell me I'm right.
Illuminate - literally useless in battle until Scarlet/Violet Anticipation - weirdly high distribution, sounds useful in theory but players have so much information already it's not worth the opportunity cost Honey Gather - still the primary ability of Ribombee despite Honey mechanics no longer existing
1:27 oh my god someone finally said it. Like why it doesn't give the user the immunity?? I tried building a team around killowatrel in reg F. It did respectable damage but that's about it, it's just too frail.
Delcatty’s Normalize is funny. Now you can guarantee you’ll never have a super effective attack, and you’re hard-walled by Ghosts. What if they also gave it Scrappy? Now it’s a guessing game!
For people wondering why sableye got stall as an ability, I'm pretty sure Gamefreak was just being cautious. They were probably paranoid that the first pokemon without a weakness might be OP so they gave it a nerf ability. It's ironic that it got prankster, which is the polar opposite of stall.
...but it only got Stall in Gen 4. It wasn't broken in Gen 3 with Keen Eye. Oh yeah! It could just use a different ability, so giving it Stall made zero sense if the point was to preemptively nerf it.
Darmanitan really channeled his inner monke to become another monke. Sadly this monke was outclassed by the original monke and his monke cousin from Iceland
Another one is Flare Boost. If the user is burned it's speed doubles. It is the signature HIDDEN ABILITY OF DRIFLOON AND DRIFBLIM! How on earth did like 90% of people find out about it or in my case remembered it existed or who had it? By watching MandJTV's Twitch Streams of a Pokémon fan game where he encountered and battled a wild Steel Flying Type Hindenburg sentient Cloud Blimp Fakemon in a fan game that ALREADY HAD AN ENTIRE LINE OF SENTIENT CLOUD PURE FLYING TYPE FAKEMON! EVEN THE BETTER FAKEMON VERSIONS OF DRIFLOON AND DRIFBLIM ARE STILL OUTCLASSED BY WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A THREE STAGE MONO FLYING TYPE CASTFORM WITH DRIZZLE, ACCESS TO 100% ACCURATE STAB HURRICANE, AND THE MOST SQUISHY TANKIEST STATS A FAKEMON COULD HAVE AND EVEN A PRIORITY SPECIAL FLYING TYPE VERSION OF QUICK ATTACK! That is how unbelievable obscure Flare Boost is. On the other hand, or paw in this case, Zangoose is the sole welder of the signature Hidden Ability Toxic Boost. And it's actually still a potentially devastatingly powerful ability. The user gets badly poisoned and basically gains Life Orb. Only it still gets hurt from the bad poison meaning as awesome as this power boost is it's essentially a worse version of just putting a Life Orb on a regular Zangoose that isn't limited to only having six turns or less alive on the field. IT WAS THIS CLOSE TO BEING AN AMAZING ABILITY! And then poor Seviper gets nothing and still sucks more then a faulty antivenom.
The sad part for Zangoose is that the ability is actually more of a boost than life orb (life orb: 30%, toxic boost: 50%), but Toxic Boost is just a worse version of Guts since Guts does the same thing but with any status
Galarian Rapidash is such a let down on so many levels from the design to the shiny colorway to the stats to the ability like you talked about. I LOVE G-Ponyta so I was just so disappointed when it evolved 😭
So as far as Stall I was able to use it in a draft league against an opponent that i knew had Prankster Grimmsnarl Generally, you'd expect Sableye to run Prankster and be unable to use its status moves on said Grimmsnarl. So my plan was to run Stall, then Skill Swap to keep prankster while taking away the Grimmsnarls ability. So the best use of Stall is making someone else useless.
Wow wind power is just awful. I didn’t even realize how useless that is?! Florges is one of my favorite Pokémon, it’s such a shame they dropped the ball with the abilities.
Hoenstly I think it would be best if Zen Mode was always active for the Darmanita that have it. It would still be weaker then non-Zen Mode versions, but they'd at least be usable.
in defense of gogoat: Plenty of defensive grass types have been excellent such as tangrowth who is an excellent defensive grass in spite of its many weaknesses, and as for stacking grasses, grass spam is a strategy using grassy terrain + a strong grass attacker like serperior and kartana to bash through defensive cores. However, gogoat is still dicks.
Florges is pretty good for terra raids, I mostly run support or defensive raid mons The amount of belly drum players that get themselves ko-d is annoying, and symbiosis on florges and oranguru is great
What about Flare Boost, the seemingly fake ability that many people don't even believe is real, but is a signature ability of a crappy pokemon.... And has it as it's hidden ability so you actively have to hunt for it if you want it 🤣
I play alot of Pokemon Romhacks and Nuzlockes and when some youtuber talked about Flare Boost in an "forgotten abilities video" I legit thought they made this sht up
0:49 But, wait, isn't that the idea? If it's not defensive, then the 1.5X boost to defense is meant to offset its many weaknesses, like the famously brittle Ice-types getting a defensive boost in Snowstorms
It helps, and as I've been told it's decent as a physical wall in monotype, but unfortunately the weaknesses are pretty hard to overcome, especially since it has to worry about a litany of special moves too. Like it's trying to stick around but any decent constructed team can easily answer Gogoat, while it doesn't have a lot of tools to make progress.
I've heard of Grass pelt only once because in a "we choose starters and then battle " video someone randomised into grassy surge on one mon and grass pelt on the other and that was their big plan😂
The only other use for Stall Sableye would be for Metal Burst(since MB doesn’t have negative priority like Counter & Mirror Coat), and I guess other moves that would benefit from negative priority that Sableye doesn’t get(like Chilly Reception). I somehow didn’t think about Payback though 😮, but other than those two , yeah Stall is just not it lol
I see too many people trying to taunt my alcremie because no one knows about aroma veil, but aroma veil doesn't matter when one of your favourites is just diet hatterene with worse magic bounce
Galarian Rapidash also released in a region with a much more noteworthy fairy/psy type, Hatterene. Which itself launched the generation we lost mega Gardevoir.
Despite being a great ability Huge Power is only on 4 pokémon, 3 of which being the Azurill line and the other being Diggersby as a hidden ability, it's on 5 pokemon if you count Mega Mawile (but megas aren't a thing anymore) and 8 if you count Meditite, Medicham and Mega Medicham's Pure Power which does the same thing, regardless we haven't gotten a new Huge Power pokémon since Gen 6
The fact Azu gets both Huge Power and Belly Drum shows you why. It has a physical attack stat of… base 50. On a side note: I once ran Misty Explosion Azu next to Weakness Policy Receiver Passimian. Suddenly having a monkey with +2 attack and huge power.
@@borismuller86 I mean yeah but I still have to wonder if we'll just never see a new huge power pokemon, like for Azumarill and Diggersby they're basically worthless without Huge Power so what if we got a pokemon that can function both with and without Huge Power where its other ability encourages a more supportive playstyle? Or something like that.
Stall would be completely useless if it weren't for the fact Sableye's speed is already pretty low and it learns Skill Swap. It's one of those "load it off on someone else" abilities. Not exactly "good" but you could cheese some stuff with it.
I know wind power is ass but it feels so good to use in a casual playthrough with tail wind and electro ball! Would never use it online tho... Also I didn't know it gets competitive, that rules!
So upset with darmanitan. Imagine if you learned the tempo with aegislash only to learn nobody runs that ability because it can run huge power instead.
Darmanitan's Zen Mode is one of the most confused and contradictory abilities in the franchise. Entering Zen Mode is almost entirely out of your hands, as Darmanitan needs to be at ≤50% health just to enter Zen Mode, which it's almost entirely reliant on your opponents attacks for. If it transforms, it becomes a bulkier fire goblin... but not that bulky. It's Defense stats are only 5 points higher each than *Meganium,* and it becomes as snow as Blissey... with only half its health. And if it ever goes above 50% health, it exists Zen Mode. Making matters worse is that Darmanitan's Attack and Special Attach stats flip between normal and Zen Mode, but its EVs for either stat do not. Everything about Darmanitan's stats and the way its ability works are working against each other as badly as possible. _Or..._ You could just use Darmanitan with Sheer Force, boosting the damage of all its attacks with a secondary bonus effect by 30% at the cost of removing those bonus effects, but which also *removes the recoil from Life Orb.* With a 140 base stat for Attack, that makes Darmanitan one of if not the best user of the Sheer Force/Life Orb exploit in the series. Galarian Darmanitan is better designed to make use of Zen Mode, at least, as it's built to be a physical sweeper, and entering Zen Mode, which also has one of the series' most unique dual types of Fire/Ice, just makes it an even faster and more powerful physical sweeper. However, there's still the issue that you're essentially relying on your opponent to reduce GDar to less than half health, and as a mono Ice type, it's more likely it'll just get OHKOd by a super effective attack. *_Or..._* You could just let Galarian Darmanitan run its other Ability, Guerilla Tactics, which functions as a built-in *_CHOICE BAND._* It's possible that a good Pokemon could be made to function around transforming after enough health loss, but Darmanitan isn't it. Who would have thought that strategies that involve intelligent planning wouldn't work for goblins? Certainly not whoever designed Darmanitan.
Ay I haven't forgotten wind power just yet, loved that ability in VGC at the beginning of this gen. Also Symbiosis got used on Oranguru for a few fun gimmicks. Hitting Belly Drum on a Quick Draw Galarian Slowbro with Sitrus Berry, then passing it a Quick Claw from Symbiosis went crazy lol
Bruxish prefers Dazzling in VGC for blocking Fake Outs and, though Farigiraf sees more play for the job better. At one point it had higher usage than several well known strong pokemon.
"Oh hey what a nice lil video, ima subscribe.. wait.." Surprised you dont have over 10k subs at least, these vids are great, i hope everything goes well!
Things like Wind Power and Pastel Veil need to grant immunity like Sap Sipper. Galarian Rapidash might be better if it naturally was immune to Poison damage.
Gorilla Tactics is actually incredibly powerful, without that ability Galarian Darm wouldn't have been nearly the beast it was. The choice band built in with the option to go scarf or band is hard to understate on an already strong attacker
"Setting up Tailwind for Kilowatrel is a waste of time." Dude, do you know competitive? Here's your interaction, your thumbs down and the removal of your channel from my feed.
Grass pelt would be interesting if mixed with a grassy seed and body press, but Gogoat doesn't learn it unfortunately. It would be like having +2 on an attack for free pretty much, as long as terrain is up that is.
there are a bunch if mistakes in this video. Most egregious, Tailwind is still used everywhere in competitive no matter how fast the pokémon is. Wind power is an excellent ability, the problem with Killowattrell is not its ability
@@Portobello-Mushroom yeah im aware competitive is better especially when intim was running around everywhere but im not always teambuilding to be serious yk 😅
Pastel Veil should have straight up given an immunity to Poison moves to the user as well, at least then the ability would have been actually useful
A lot of people have said this and I totally agree
I mean, if the ability Immunity doesn't give an immunity to poison types, why would a Pastel Veil do that? So yeah, they both should have worked like that, but the obvious problem is that poison attacks already kinda sucks, so making even more pokemon resistant or immune to it would be almost disrespectful. If they buffed poison first, and then buffed those abilities, everything would be better
@dasamont8274 Agree.
Personally I would have had Poison be super effective against Fighting, because what's all that lifting doing to protect you from cyanide?
@@sephikong8323 fighting types follow the logic of martial cultivation in Wu Xia Fantasy
@@Ozhar1 And the best way to kill a great warrior is by poisoning him
This is the first time I've seen your channel, but I'm definitely coming back. By the way, from my vgc main knowledge, both wind rider and wind power actually activate more than you'd think, because icy wind and all of the genie storms are meta. For this reason, wind rider brambleghast has actually won regionals before XD. On the other hand, this only works because wind rider makes you immune, so yeah wind power is hot garbage. Great vid!
Edit: Heat wave, blizzard, and hurricane are all also very common, especially with new snow change and Chi-Yu's vaibility
I have a feeling the Icy Wind interaction doesn't go well for Kilo. I'm imaging it usually goes before the genie, but then after getting hit by Icy Wind it probably gets KOed before it can take advantage of the boost due to the lowered speed
Hearing Brambleghast find some success is nice to hear
Anger point is one of the most conflicting abilities. Everyone wants a +6 krook, but relying on a crit to get it is one of the dumbest things
Vgc (doubles or whatever) , ice breath etc. basically removes the randomness from it but makes it a different version of belly drum. Wouldnt reccomend ice breath specifically for krook ._.
You could also save it for sniper pokemon.
I got absolutely swept in a tera raid once because my teammate crit an anger point tauros, we were winning up until that crit. Great ability 👍
Color change is up there for absolutely awful abilities by making you the same type as whatever move hit you, but I'd like to make special note of the rom hack Pokemon Elite Redux where they changed color change to be one of the best abilities in the game. In Elite Redux you change to resist the incoming attack before it hits you making you have no weaknesses, every resist, and every immunity all at the same time.
To be fair, a lot of types resist themselves.
Sounds a bit like Porygon’s move Conversion 2, only it’s better. Much better.
@@GeorgeDCowley I don't really understand what you're trying to say. But I'll be a bit more specific. It makes you a type that would resist, not turn you into the type that's about to hit you. For example: Dark plus would turn you into a fighting, dark, or fairy type, but dragon pulse would make you always become fairy type to be immune.
I feel like Starmie is really hampered by its abilities. The fact that it doesn’t have Regenerator or even a new Beam-focused multiplier ability is criminal for an otherwise great Pokémon.
Starmie getting Analytic is quite wack
@@Portobello-Mushroom I think Analytic also triggers when the opponent switches out too, so I guess there's that.
I knew of grassy pelt and pastel veil cause I like the mons 😭 especially galarian rapidash's I always used her in gigantamax garbodor raids just in case people didn't use steel types
You are a rare case of a fan for both of these mons
I just looked into darmanitan the other day because I kinda wanna play it, cool ass mon, kinda sad the awesome zen mode gimmick gets far outpaced by gorilla tactics and sheer force, two of the best abilities in the game!
I really thought _curious medicine_ was going to be in the video tbh.
It's a good candidate for sure but I think Tar Shot is probably more obscure
But _tar shot_ is a move?
@@Ultra-Necrozma155 Ah my bad I also made a video about forgotten moves and I got mixed up
Pastel Veil should make you immune to Poison moves , not just Poison itself
Or maybe (makes way less sense) flare boost but for poison + you don’t take damage
But yea the second one is a huge reach
What about a poison resistance?
specs Color Change Psychic Noise my beloved
I disagree with Gorilla Tactics being strictly superior to Zen Mode for G-Darmanitan primarily bc 9/10 times I don’t like having to lock myself into one move and potentially screw myself in the endgame. Zen G-Darm does take some time to set up but the sheer firepower you get rewarded with is totally worth it.
I wouldn't say it's strictly superior, but it is a far more powerful ability than what you get for Zen Mode. In a world where G-Darm has sheer force it never even gets discussed for a ban
Klutz
I wouldn’t say Klutz is forgotten. It’s pretty well-known for being useless (in 99% of situations).
Klutz trick is kinda famous for those fake Pokemon showdown rage videos lol
Well, with it you can at least change the enemy's item to a poisonous orb or give him a spec without experiencing negative effects from the items
Grassy pelt is actually quite good in a monotype context. You are practically guaranteed to be running a grassy surge mon in mono grass and in grassy terrain gogoat is one of your best if not your best physical tank options. Notably it has access to a reliable recovery option when ferrothorn doesn’t and horn leach boosted by terrain is also handy on a mon meant to take hits. And then there’s pokerogue which decided to let gogoat have grassy surge and grassy pelt at the same time making it go from viable alternative to ferrothorn in a grass monotype context to by far the best terrain setter
I didn't even consider monotype, this makes a lot of sense though. And Milk Drink is a nice option for Mr. Goat, so yeah I guess as far as monograss goes that's the best you can get
They give rillaboom grass pelt as a passive in PokeRogue.
@@accelgortuss4573 yeah but between the two gogoat has a much better natural learnset. Notably having bulk up via level up alongside a reliable recovery move with that much physical bulk allow you to turn that massive physical bulk provided by the ability combo into a win condition in rival fights gym fights ect
In Legends Z-A, GameFreak please bring abilities into it and give Grass Pelt a buff that it needs. Just make it so it's defense doubles and Special Defense of itself and allies receive a 50% boost. That would at least have some better staying power for taking many more hits.
@@accelgortuss4573dope analysis thanks for adding to the video and cool concept for a vid
another ability that's totally forgotten is merciless for toxapex. it's a really good ability, causing any attack against a poisoned opponent to be a guaranteed critical hit. pairing this ability with hex and venoshock makes for a fun sweeper build. unfortunately, nobody uses the ability since toxapex is always used as a stalling regenerator user
You can pair it up with a salazzle using poison gas with the corrosion ability for some solid offense. The only unfortunate part is that you become very weak to earthquake.
Really felt like Pex and Salazzle were made specifically to make everyone wish their abilities were switched lol
@@Bird-wz7nxRegenerator is still a far better ability for Pex, though.
If stall were on something like a bulky flip turn/volt switch/uturn mom i could see the use there. Sableye is unfortunately not that so we'll never know
Does it work in trick room?
@@douwemusic Stall bypasses trick room entirely, which is part of why it's cool.
@@mutedknght No I'm wondering if Sableye's ability makes him go first under TR
@@douwemusic no it will always make him go last because it bypasses trickroom entirely. Think of it as like -0.5 priority if that helps. It's not actually negative priority but it's always last in the bracket
@@mutedknght Ahh yeah that makes sense actually. It doesn't go into the normal priority queue
LMFAO THAT BIT FOR DARMANITAN WAS AMAZING
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Kilowattrel was actually used early in Gen 9 VGC when the dex was a lot more limited, actually. Specifically, it was a tailwind setter with its speed stat, and then could pivot into a one time use nuke with Charge boosted Discharge.
I'm getting caught not knowing about VGC as usual
@@Portobello-Mushroom all good LOL, and FWIW Kilowattrel was a niche pick at the time and got powercrept out the moment paradox pokemon got added. More novel is Brambleghast being meta for one of the rulesets, though-that one really caught people off guard.
@@sontaranmc2109 Nothing felt better than watching your opponent panic as they realized their Tornadus was useless
@@sontaranmc2109 I totally ran this exact Kilowattrel. It's still relevant in gen 9 DOU really. Not VERY relevant, but you see it around.
I genuinely think Galarian Rapidash is one of the most forgettable Pokemon ever. It's by far the most forgettable Galarian Pokemon, and its not even famous for being forgettable like lets say Lumineon. I choose to believe this mon is a myth, and it was only made for September 2023 35 Pokes (where it did jackshit lmao)
it's sad cause it evolves from the literal cutest pokemon in the series but like galarian rapidash has nothing going for it
@@Magikarpador yea Galarian Ponyta is a very good design and Galarian Rapidash is decent... but like what do they actually do
remember boltund
I think it’s funny that grapidash looks like it’s angry, but it just doesn’t have any other personality traits
@@MiniOre2 I preffer rapidash over voltund but it atleast can be obtained fairly early and ball fetch is a fun ability
“And Delcatty is here too,” spoken like a man who was never bullied by Last Resort Delcatty in Run N Bun
I AM the one who bullies with Delcatty
which usually doesn't go well for me lol
I love the thumbnail so much, the sad horse is one of my favourite memes. Also it's for the better that RNG good as gold stays in the dust
blunder got 6-0'd by lead galarian zen darm
hi starfy :)
agency agency
What?
@@johnmartinez7440 blunder (Pokemon player) got sweeped by a Galarian Zen Darmantian without any help from any other mins, the darmanitan killed all of blunders team
IMHO many anti-status abilities, like Water Veil, Magma Armor, etc, should have worked like Pastel Veil and apply the protection to the partymate too.
While at it, have the ability reduce damage from the associated type for the party too. I bet Galarian Rapidash would have appreciated taking less damage from Poison.
Somebody else said to me that Pastel Veil should provide a poison immunity and I think would've been cool since Galarian Rapidash doesn't have much going for it
@@Portobello-Mushroom If it's just for itself yeah, being immune to Poison-type moves might be pretty great. It'll be a Fairy that hunts down Poison-types.
Reducing the Poison damage for partymate I still think would also be nice. Would allow it to support fellow Fairies.
Although given the current nerf to all recovery moves now as of Scarlet and Violet I'm sure more people are using Merciless now right? Please tell me I'm right.
Everyone makes so much fun of stall until they get skill swapped
If your only utility is to be given to your opponent, then you're bad
@@ceulgai2817are you? Kind of a cool niche to make an opponent guaranteed slower than your whole team
@@ceulgai2817I agree, but 0 attack 0 sp.atk power split sash max speed Spinda will never not be funny
There was a legendary Delcatty + Skill Swap + Ghost types strategy in VGC, so bad abilities can be good in that way, even on top-player levels :D
@@aarionsievo I love Normalize strats!!
"This ability is good, but I never heard of it cuz I only play singles and it's a doubles ability" Then it's not forgotten, it's just a you problem!
True, but I think that sentiment rings true for many singles players (and possibly a lot of doubles players since Florges is used so little)
Doubles is not the norm in Pokemon games
Illuminate - literally useless in battle until Scarlet/Violet
Anticipation - weirdly high distribution, sounds useful in theory but players have so much information already it's not worth the opportunity cost
Honey Gather - still the primary ability of Ribombee despite Honey mechanics no longer existing
1:27 oh my god someone finally said it. Like why it doesn't give the user the immunity?? I tried building a team around killowatrel in reg F. It did respectable damage but that's about it, it's just too frail.
Really weird how weak and situational Wind Power is compared to other abilities with similar effects
@@Portobello-Mushroom It's literally just a worse Electromorphosis.
The immunity would help it a LOT. Being able to ignore a blizzard and striking back with a doubled thunderbolt would be great
Kilowattrel really is just Talonflame in Paldea (where it can at least set up Tailwind in doubles).
@@asierx7047Brambleghast being able to hard wall things like Thundurus is just really funny.
Delcatty’s Normalize is funny. Now you can guarantee you’ll never have a super effective attack, and you’re hard-walled by Ghosts.
What if they also gave it Scrappy? Now it’s a guessing game!
For people wondering why sableye got stall as an ability, I'm pretty sure Gamefreak was just being cautious. They were probably paranoid that the first pokemon without a weakness might be OP so they gave it a nerf ability.
It's ironic that it got prankster, which is the polar opposite of stall.
That's an interesting idea, unfortunately despite having no weaknesses OG Sableye also had no strengths
But spiritomb was also released at the time and given a useless ability
@@duckymomo7935released a whole gen after
...but it only got Stall in Gen 4. It wasn't broken in Gen 3 with Keen Eye.
Oh yeah! It could just use a different ability, so giving it Stall made zero sense if the point was to preemptively nerf it.
Thanks for reminding Galarian Rapidash has a signature Ability.
Darmanitan really channeled his inner monke to become another monke. Sadly this monke was outclassed by the original monke and his monke cousin from Iceland
Monkes are known for their complex social hierarchies so maybe Game Freak's design was more sophisticated than we could conceive
"Reject Monke, return to Stone"
-Zen Mode Darmanitan
The memes make this video 10x times better
Another one is Flare Boost.
If the user is burned it's speed doubles.
It is the signature HIDDEN ABILITY OF DRIFLOON AND DRIFBLIM! How on earth did like 90% of people find out about it or in my case remembered it existed or who had it?
By watching MandJTV's Twitch Streams of a Pokémon fan game where he encountered and battled a wild Steel Flying Type Hindenburg sentient Cloud Blimp Fakemon in a fan game that ALREADY HAD AN ENTIRE LINE OF SENTIENT CLOUD PURE FLYING TYPE FAKEMON! EVEN THE BETTER FAKEMON VERSIONS OF DRIFLOON AND DRIFBLIM ARE STILL OUTCLASSED BY WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A THREE STAGE MONO FLYING TYPE CASTFORM WITH DRIZZLE, ACCESS TO 100% ACCURATE STAB HURRICANE, AND THE MOST SQUISHY TANKIEST STATS A FAKEMON COULD HAVE AND EVEN A PRIORITY SPECIAL FLYING TYPE VERSION OF QUICK ATTACK!
That is how unbelievable obscure Flare Boost is.
On the other hand, or paw in this case, Zangoose is the sole welder of the signature Hidden Ability Toxic Boost. And it's actually still a potentially devastatingly powerful ability. The user gets badly poisoned and basically gains Life Orb. Only it still gets hurt from the bad poison meaning as awesome as this power boost is it's essentially a worse version of just putting a Life Orb on a regular Zangoose that isn't limited to only having six turns or less alive on the field.
IT WAS THIS CLOSE TO BEING AN AMAZING ABILITY!
And then poor Seviper gets nothing and still sucks more then a faulty antivenom.
The sad part for Zangoose is that the ability is actually more of a boost than life orb (life orb: 30%, toxic boost: 50%), but Toxic Boost is just a worse version of Guts since Guts does the same thing but with any status
@@Portobello-Mushroom Dangit, you're right. Even more missed opportunity. Then again, GameFreak. 😭
Flare Boost is for SpA, not Spe
What if they’d given it Psycho Shift? Then at least you’d have a Will’o’wisp that can’t miss!
Galarian Rapidash is such a let down on so many levels from the design to the shiny colorway to the stats to the ability like you talked about. I LOVE G-Ponyta so I was just so disappointed when it evolved 😭
Didn’t even mention Power of Alchemy, casual alert!
Wonder skin venomoth with rage powder is actually viable.
So as far as Stall
I was able to use it in a draft league against an opponent that i knew had Prankster Grimmsnarl
Generally, you'd expect Sableye to run Prankster and be unable to use its status moves on said Grimmsnarl.
So my plan was to run Stall, then Skill Swap to keep prankster while taking away the Grimmsnarls ability.
So the best use of Stall is making someone else useless.
That's a creative set, a good example of why draft is cool
Wow wind power is just awful. I didn’t even realize how useless that is?! Florges is one of my favorite Pokémon, it’s such a shame they dropped the ball with the abilities.
6:28 That looks like something Pen Paladin would create, and it looks absolutely terrifying
Hoenstly I think it would be best if Zen Mode was always active for the Darmanita that have it. It would still be weaker then non-Zen Mode versions, but they'd at least be usable.
in defense of gogoat: Plenty of defensive grass types have been excellent such as tangrowth who is an excellent defensive grass in spite of its many weaknesses, and as for stacking grasses, grass spam is a strategy using grassy terrain + a strong grass attacker like serperior and kartana to bash through defensive cores. However, gogoat is still dicks.
Florges is pretty good for terra raids,
I mostly run support or defensive raid mons
The amount of belly drum players that get themselves ko-d is annoying, and symbiosis on florges and oranguru is great
What about Flare Boost, the seemingly fake ability that many people don't even believe is real, but is a signature ability of a crappy pokemon.... And has it as it's hidden ability so you actively have to hunt for it if you want it 🤣
I play alot of Pokemon Romhacks and Nuzlockes and when some youtuber talked about Flare Boost in an "forgotten abilities video" I legit thought they made this sht up
Good mention, I'll remember that one if I make a sequel to this video
@@traiges414 MandJTV?
0:49 But, wait, isn't that the idea? If it's not defensive, then the 1.5X boost to defense is meant to offset its many weaknesses, like the famously brittle Ice-types getting a defensive boost in Snowstorms
It helps, and as I've been told it's decent as a physical wall in monotype, but unfortunately the weaknesses are pretty hard to overcome, especially since it has to worry about a litany of special moves too. Like it's trying to stick around but any decent constructed team can easily answer Gogoat, while it doesn't have a lot of tools to make progress.
I've heard of Grass pelt only once because in a "we choose starters and then battle " video someone randomised into grassy surge on one mon and grass pelt on the other and that was their big plan😂
The only other use for Stall Sableye would be for Metal Burst(since MB doesn’t have negative priority like Counter & Mirror Coat), and I guess other moves that would benefit from negative priority that Sableye doesn’t get(like Chilly Reception).
I somehow didn’t think about Payback though 😮, but other than those two , yeah Stall is just not it lol
They did Sableye dirty in its first 2 gens
And then Sableye got graced with Prankster HO and an incredible Mega later on lol
What a glow up
Wonder skin isn't Good as Gold. It's not even a Gold, or just Gold. At best... It's old.
Since electroball has power based on how much you outspeed, plus the charge effect and stab, i used tailwind and wind power to sweep the game
I see too many people trying to taunt my alcremie because no one knows about aroma veil, but aroma veil doesn't matter when one of your favourites is just diet hatterene with worse magic bounce
Even on high ladder in randbats people will bank on taunting or encoring my CM Alcremie only to get destroyed
Galarian Rapidash also released in a region with a much more noteworthy fairy/psy type, Hatterene. Which itself launched the generation we lost mega Gardevoir.
Hatt is tough competition for the unicorn
@@Portobello-Mushroom can't compete with the witch waifu
Despite being a great ability Huge Power is only on 4 pokémon, 3 of which being the Azurill line and the other being Diggersby as a hidden ability, it's on 5 pokemon if you count Mega Mawile (but megas aren't a thing anymore) and 8 if you count Meditite, Medicham and Mega Medicham's Pure Power which does the same thing, regardless we haven't gotten a new Huge Power pokémon since Gen 6
The fact Azu gets both Huge Power and Belly Drum shows you why. It has a physical attack stat of… base 50.
On a side note: I once ran Misty Explosion Azu next to Weakness Policy Receiver Passimian. Suddenly having a monkey with +2 attack and huge power.
@@borismuller86 I mean yeah but I still have to wonder if we'll just never see a new huge power pokemon, like for Azumarill and Diggersby they're basically worthless without Huge Power so what if we got a pokemon that can function both with and without Huge Power where its other ability encourages a more supportive playstyle? Or something like that.
@@nathanblackburn1193 A Pokemon with either Huge Power or Fur Coat, perhaps?
Well, at least now in gen 9 Sableye can use skill swap with stall to slightly annoy an opponent.
Stall would be completely useless if it weren't for the fact Sableye's speed is already pretty low and it learns Skill Swap. It's one of those "load it off on someone else" abilities. Not exactly "good" but you could cheese some stuff with it.
I know wind power is ass but it feels so good to use in a casual playthrough with tail wind and electro ball! Would never use it online tho...
Also I didn't know it gets competitive, that rules!
So upset with darmanitan. Imagine if you learned the tempo with aegislash only to learn nobody runs that ability because it can run huge power instead.
No wonder I haven't heard anything of Grass Pelt, is literally Grassy Seed but worse cuz u gotta use Gogoat
Cherrims Flower Gift gives allies 50% ATK and SP. DEF in sun
this was a really fun watch, glad youtube recommendations did a good job for once
After watching this video, I want to try Galatians darmanitans zen mode, because it’s such a neat concept and I think it could be fun
Thats why i like playing randomizers cause you see habilities and moves you dont usually see and might even be usefull ont he randomized pokemon
Stall should at least make sableye hit with double power if he moves last ( its still bad but at least it can do something
That thumbnail is incredible
Darmanitan's Zen Mode is one of the most confused and contradictory abilities in the franchise. Entering Zen Mode is almost entirely out of your hands, as Darmanitan needs to be at ≤50% health just to enter Zen Mode, which it's almost entirely reliant on your opponents attacks for. If it transforms, it becomes a bulkier fire goblin... but not that bulky. It's Defense stats are only 5 points higher each than *Meganium,* and it becomes as snow as Blissey... with only half its health. And if it ever goes above 50% health, it exists Zen Mode. Making matters worse is that Darmanitan's Attack and Special Attach stats flip between normal and Zen Mode, but its EVs for either stat do not. Everything about Darmanitan's stats and the way its ability works are working against each other as badly as possible.
_Or..._
You could just use Darmanitan with Sheer Force, boosting the damage of all its attacks with a secondary bonus effect by 30% at the cost of removing those bonus effects, but which also *removes the recoil from Life Orb.* With a 140 base stat for Attack, that makes Darmanitan one of if not the best user of the Sheer Force/Life Orb exploit in the series.
Galarian Darmanitan is better designed to make use of Zen Mode, at least, as it's built to be a physical sweeper, and entering Zen Mode, which also has one of the series' most unique dual types of Fire/Ice, just makes it an even faster and more powerful physical sweeper. However, there's still the issue that you're essentially relying on your opponent to reduce GDar to less than half health, and as a mono Ice type, it's more likely it'll just get OHKOd by a super effective attack.
*_Or..._*
You could just let Galarian Darmanitan run its other Ability, Guerilla Tactics, which functions as a built-in *_CHOICE BAND._*
It's possible that a good Pokemon could be made to function around transforming after enough health loss, but Darmanitan isn't it. Who would have thought that strategies that involve intelligent planning wouldn't work for goblins? Certainly not whoever designed Darmanitan.
Truly a shame that they effectively made two pokemon that just are locked away behind inferior abilities
Ay I haven't forgotten wind power just yet, loved that ability in VGC at the beginning of this gen. Also Symbiosis got used on Oranguru for a few fun gimmicks. Hitting Belly Drum on a Quick Draw Galarian Slowbro with Sitrus Berry, then passing it a Quick Claw from Symbiosis went crazy lol
I love Quickbro strats
I didn't know terrain was added in gen 6, i thought it was 7
Electric, grassy, and misty terrain were all added in 6 and psychic terrain was added in 7
Bruxish prefers Dazzling in VGC for blocking Fake Outs and, though Farigiraf sees more play for the job better. At one point it had higher usage than several well known strong pokemon.
Yet another comment proving that I know nothing about VGC, I'm too much of a singles player
Regigigas should get the Stall ability. Give up all your speed and any potential trick room benefit for big attack right away, I think thats fair
Big Regi deserves it after so many years of suffering
"Oh hey what a nice lil video, ima subscribe.. wait.."
Surprised you dont have over 10k subs at least, these vids are great, i hope everything goes well!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Things like Wind Power and Pastel Veil need to grant immunity like Sap Sipper.
Galarian Rapidash might be better if it naturally was immune to Poison damage.
A man can dream
It would be very funny if Hawlucha had Grassy Pelt. Then it could always pair with Rillaboom or Tapu Bulu for fun shenanigans.
It would never match Unburden though. Hawlucha is a fast sweeper, so Grassy Pelt wouldn’t help.
I'm a regular player of zu and g-rapidash's ability is garbage, even the regular rapidash is better than it (rapidash is A- while g-rapidash is B)
Yeah it's ability really doesn't do anything for it. At least it has enough speed and power to be usable in ZU (not great, usable)
2:34 When you mentioned Delcatty, I thought you'd segue into Normalize. Another forgotten ability!
For sure, but I think the -ize abilities are a bit more well known
Motor Drive :( I mostly remember it for Electivire.
Idk if locking your mon into one move for 1.5 is necessarily stronger than a straight stat buff
Gorilla Tactics is actually incredibly powerful, without that ability Galarian Darm wouldn't have been nearly the beast it was. The choice band built in with the option to go scarf or band is hard to understate on an already strong attacker
Omg wonder skin is HILARIOUS!
2:23 meh as bronze
2:32 I was so confused 😂 But makes sense for singles
3:17 Fsg unfortunately moment
Funny enough, right now in Pokerogue, Rillaboom and TapunvKoko get grass pelt as their passive ability
instant like for the thumbnail
Fantastic thumbnail.
no no no, fantastic video.
love the smg music choice :3
Can't go wrong with some Mario Galaxy music
Subbed. Let's get this guy his $20 annual RUclips income!
Great video, dude. The Florges double down comment was funny 😅
Absolutely gorgeous monstrosity that is Big Stall
Really nice video bro, just subscribed :)
I love the meme edits, the add so much. MONKEY
Monke
HEY THATS ALMOST MY PFP
I prefer the Shrumelings since they are completely harmless, just little guys
"This.... is not a _WALL"_ xD
Toxic boost and flare boost
"Setting up Tailwind for Kilowatrel is a waste of time." Dude, do you know competitive? Here's your interaction, your thumbs down and the removal of your channel from my feed.
Grass pelt would be interesting if mixed with a grassy seed and body press, but Gogoat doesn't learn it unfortunately. It would be like having +2 on an attack for free pretty much, as long as terrain is up that is.
Lmao ball fetch exists
there are a bunch if mistakes in this video. Most egregious, Tailwind is still used everywhere in competitive no matter how fast the pokémon is. Wind power is an excellent ability, the problem with Killowattrell is not its ability
i used wind power kilowatrel in reg 1/2 vgc it was actually pretty good on certain team comps
Why Wind Power instead of Competitive or Volt Absorb? Is it a tailwind team?
@@Portobello-Mushroom yeah im aware competitive is better especially when intim was running around everywhere but im not always teambuilding to be serious yk 😅
@@therealdualipa Fair enough
i love the thumbnail
I'm subscriber number 777 😁
Luck is on your side today, use it well
@@Portobello-Mushroom My Ting-Lu landed three fissures in one match, I can say that luck was indeed on my side (R.I.P. to the other guy)
Stall would be useful on a super bulky support Mon with lots of pivot moves to always give you switching priority
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What's the bgm used in this video? I know it's from a video game but I don't remember which one
>why not subscribe
Because looking at your channel i see a bunch of battle replays and not content like this
6:29 the stall lord