Joseph P Martin Describes FEAR and CHAOS of Early Revolutionary War (1776, From His Diaries)
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Extracts taken from "The Adventures of a Revolutionary Soldier" (1830) by Joseph Plumb Martin.
Edited and narrated by David Kelly.
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18th century English syntax sounds so interesting to a modern ear that I feel myself become more intelligent somehow just by listening to it
I know, right?
I mean,...
I am indeed aware, does it not?
Much inkshed has resulted from it.
Look up Prof. Edward Dutton. He would say that there is currently a selection pressure for lower IQs, due to people with lower IQs having more children, statistically. He believes it is a cyclical process inherent in human civilization.
Yes. Two of my grandchildren have finished their second year of home schooling, after having started in the public schools. They are receiving a "Classical" education, now, much the same as was received by our Founders. They have become remarkably confident and independent.
That's also due to them only learning language and speech, where today we learn Math, Physics, Chemistry, Philosophy... Back then it was language and battle lol
1776: "What? Venture my carcass where bullets fly?"
2021: "I ain't getting shot!"
2021 "Miss me with that"
Probably scared or they were Loyalist Tories.
1776: Liberty or DEATH
2021: Patriots are NAZI's
@Inter X neo nazi sympathizers like a left wing vegan woman attempted mass shooter who only killed one person? I'm highly doubtful any real neo nazis have an admiration for aghdham
@Tim Matt even if that where so, the comment itself is terribly correct, why should us patriots whose only goal is the furthering of good lives within our nation be compared to blood thirsty killers whose only similarity with us was a love of their country?
This account comes across as very honest. He doesn't brag, boast or exaggerate. Just a kid trying his best to stay alive under very chaotic circumstances. I'll have to find the rest of this!
The PBS documentary about the Revolution called "Liberty" is really good, and features a lot of Plumb Martin's journal. A young Philip Seymour Hoffman actually plays the part of Martin! I own the whole mini-series on DVD.😁
@@andreweden9405 I'll look it up, thanks! I found more of the Audiobook on RUclips, and it was very good. Through his experiences you can see the Army start to come together and become more organized and disciplined as the war continues, but his account remains matter-of-fact and humble.
One thing that surprised me is that I had the idea that the Army was small enough (especially during the time spent at Valley Forge) for all of the soldiers to know General Washington personally, and, if maybe not his best friend, at least have some stories of time spent and conversations had with him.
Mr. Plum Martin barely mentions him. He knew him by rank and by name, but he did not recognize Washington by sight the one time I remember him mentioning an encounter with the General, and had to be told by another soldier who he had just seen. That surprised the heck out of me.
He does relate some stories about General Israel Putnam from earlier in the war.
I hope you found it. It’s quite good!
Soldier diaries are the best, please keep them coming :)
The eloquence of his written words at the young age is to me a rebuttal of the modern state of education and a reminder that technology has only made our youth 'less'.
@@terrylandess6072 he was 60 years old when this was published
Read some memoirs
Can't believe no one commented on how well Dave (Voices of the Past) is reading and emoting in an American accent, this time around.
"he's made his mark" What a bastard.
Fun fact:
In the 1730s, Parliamentarian James Oglethorpe proposed that the area south of the Carolinas be colonized with the "worthy poor" of England to provide an alternative to the overcrowded debtors' prisons. Oglethorpe and other English philanthropists secured a royal charter as the Trustees of the colony of Georgia on June 9,1732. Oglethorpe and his compatriots hoped to establish a utopian colony that banned slavery and recruited only the most worthy settlers, but by 1750 the colony remained sparsely populated. The proprietors gave up their charter in 1752, at which point Georgia became a crown colony.
...and a Not So Fun fact: the practice of periodically emptying the prisons of n'er-do-wells continued unabated until the Revolution, for the same reasons. Australia took a few as well, but the American Colonies were closer and thus cheaper to use as a dumping ground. A lot of Scots and Northumbrians who took the side of Bonnie Prince Charlie in the Jacobite Rebellion were sent here as indentured servants. May of the poor just ended up here in order to clean up the slums.
I have the theory that the comparatively large American underclass is a result of that practice - if the nature of breeding like species hold true. probably not a popular concept, but then, royalty certainly believes it. So do animal breeders.
@@OutnBacker "Albion's Seed", Fischer - get a copy. Theory? More like fact.
@@taterkaze9428 Yes, I agree. The strong social mores of American life was a determining factor in DeToqueville's assessment of the United States. In other words, if a man does not believe in God, but all his neighbors go to church, he assumes that they believe in God - even though many may not. The result is that all neighbors behave as if they believe in God- and his moral precepts and His requirements that we treat each other morally. This results in a more stable and homogenous society that moves forward more or less as one people.
In the well documented case of expulsion from England, Scotland and Ireland, the street criminals would have been of a type that self-generated their social mores with each birth. Thus, the large criminal class became almost indigenous in America.
And, so it is to this day.
@@OutnBacker Eugenicist nonsense.
@@SporeMurph If you say so.
Unfortunately we all knew it was just the beginning of the war which needed to be fought. Joseph plumb Martin is the true source of the point of view of the American revolution as he fought in most of the major battles transferring to the engineering corps around the siege of Yorktown. He became a farmer and writer later in life. He was also given a nice salute as the army passed his home in old age. He was a true legend.
Most people didn't want the war so I don't see why or how it "needed" to be fought aside from providing greedy aristocrats, creditors and other bourgeois entities a more direct means of owning property.
That’s because most schools are bad at teaching history.
@@Petey0707 enough believed for it to be a victory for the colonies. Huzzah for the Great General Washington and The Continental Congress!
@@Petey0707 Dude, you never heard of the Boston massacre? American Colonies getting ridiculously taxed by the British. Those are the main reason why they wanted to declare independence.
When you make videos about America...I can feel your love for my country. It means a lot to me, especially right now, given everything. Thank you
Joseph Martin was present in several moments of the ARW. I expect that VotP will make more videos about him.
I sure hope so, this soldier's storytelling ability when recalling memories is top tier.
Thank you for this great stuff. May God continue to bless our nation. I wish some news gathering organization would start a movement called 1773.
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 You can check the ebook from archive.org... "The Diary of Joseph Plumb Martin, a Revolutionary War Soldier."
@@Navigator87110 Thanks for that fine suggestion fren, I will definitely do just that.
I heard there are many first hand accounts from soilders at valley forge under Washington. I'd love to hear about the revolutionary War from a British soilders perspective too. We don't often hear those here in the US
very open minded perspective, I hope more Americans also feel that way.
I live in an area where many of the local regiments fought in the Revolutionary War for the Mother country... tough men who did what was required of them, but they weren't defending their homes.
@@finngregory3599 We do.
What a shock! (That’s sarcasm). America is like a cult and only propaganda that fits in with that cult ethos gets heard.
@@dadmadforgot4050 Oh shut up, America is like the rest of the world. People are taught a limited amount of local history, an even more limited amount of world history and turned out to the labor force or colleges. And although you can find the history of any people with the least effort here, unless its served up on a silver platter the work is too much. That's what the original poster means when he says, "we dont hear about them much." "We dont get it dished out it in a nice convenient youtube video where I don't have to do nasty things like track down a book or God forbid actually read one but oh yes I'm soooo appreciative of history."
This is my great grandfather x5! I'm so glad his journal is still being read and not lost to time
I wish i can talk to a rev war vet. The stories they would talk about
I’ve listened to/watched lots of your videos over the last couple years and I cannot express how much I enjoy your story telling and the way you make the world you read from come to life. I cannot express my gratitude for what you do and how you do it
the horrors of what these men went through is crazy
So nice to hear this in such trying times for our nation. Your timing covering American revolutionary writings is brilliant and inspiring, Thank you, God bless.
The Revolutionary War and everyday life around that time period is so fascinating to me!
Love his witty downplaying of 'The Fear'. The kind that would take the very heart from you but which, when written about years later, seems so insignificant, since the memory of comrades who suffered so much more and of those who died when you didn't, causes guilt, shame even; especially at the thought that you might accidently exaggerate your fears to your audience while still spiritually in the company of these comrades.
I recommend this journal to everyone interested in the American Revolutionary War. I’ve read it three time and greatly enjoy all the details and his sense of humor.
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I'd recommend reading Joseph Plum Martins entire book "Narrative of a Revolutionary Solider" for anyone who found this extract of the book interesting.
I've read Martin's book. Flip to pretty much any page and you'll read about soldiers searching for food.
“Call of Duty” meant something different back then. 🇺🇸
Wow, recruiters have been dirty dogs since the start! lol
ROTTIE
@@commissarvigil4806 They're da best :)
Worse then. They literally would kidnap people in Europe after getting the recruit drunk.not sure If that practice extended to the colonies by the Patriots but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised as they badly needed men and they certainly wherent our common view of the just and noble warrior. They where an 18th century army like any around at the time. Arguably america had more stomach for such practices as we allowed slavery and bondage until almost 100 years after.
Throughly enjoyed this. Excellently wrote piece of history and wonderfully narrated. Top marks 👌
Great work, one problem I'm very greedy and never pleased, more of this please , I could watch and listen for hours. Congratulations 👏
Very fascinating as always! I would be interested to hear more snippets from early American history in the future too! Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
I thank the world that I live in a relatively peaceful world, where I can work and achieve my dreams (and watch RUclips)
Unfortunately if you open your eyes and look beyond the horizon you will soon realize that this world has hell in certain places....... All my life I've witnessed it!
@@spottydogscocks I've been lookin bud but it seems it's now most of the world.
My thought is that people are starting to become more aware of the world and no one likes it.
I feel the same way, friend. We have it pretty good, I think.
Duh.
@@Freeze151 We have it good materially. Yet freedom of speech and liberty are under threat as much as they ever were. Personal freedom of bodily movement is next. Patriots, as ever, are just as needed as in an junction in the past.
I hope we can hear more of this!
Wonderful! Thank you very much. Felt almost like being there.
Very upset it ended. Keep going with this outstanding story! Very genuine. Need a part 2 & 3 ect.
YES. You've left us hanging in suspense!
“oh he’s made his Mark now”
I’d say it’s literally a scratch on the paper but then again this is an era where an X passed as a signature... how the heck did “putting your Mark” become so binding, especially (if I got the context right) when all someone has to do is nudge your arm at the right moment?
Well with the 'X' that was often due to illiteracy and from what was told there, he was at his local place, with friends and acquaintances nearby... of course he could have made a lot of noise about it and it 'being a mistake' but that'd have certainly harmed his reputation and back then personal honor and personal relations were just as important if not MUCH more important than they are nowadays.
@@MajorCoolD yeah I did catch the vibe he was manipulated by circumstances and culture, which thinking about it good luck calling something like that out in any community during wartime.
X still passes as a signature under the disability act it is illegal to deny the blind or illiterate service and thus an X is all that is required.
@@NoPantsBaby being legally blind myself they encourage as best you can that said I’d be politely declined if I went to the local army recruitment center, though to your point I can sign my X to a six figure bank loan and be legally obligated to repay it.
Even in the 1800s a lot of people were illiterate and signed with an X. I do a lot of genealogy work, particularly in Ireland. The older generation in the late 1800s mostly signed with an X
Damn fine presentation. You keep putting out this quality and i will be listening.
Excellent video, vocalisations from a crucially important time in our history. Many thanks!
I absolutely LOVE such formally antiquated dialect. I prefer it to the more modern vernacular. Old voices of the past are those too of the present and future to me.
Excellent story telling, thank you!
I actually owned and read this school in elementary school. I absolutely loved it, this video brought back great memories. 👍
What's an extraordinary discovery for my day ! Your channel is a diamond 👌
Great video!
My great great Grandfather called the order for the "Shot heard round the World" in Concord Mass.
You should do a video on how most portraits/photos in the old days were taken of dead people. The opening foto definitely has a deceased woman in it.
Post Mortem photography was very popular (for those who could afford it) in the UK and Western Europe during the Victorian Era.
Because infant/child mortality rates were so appalling (i believe 1/6 of all children perished before adolescence) it was very common to have a family portrait photo taken which included one of the surviving children's deceased siblings propped/laid next to them... I'm certainly not squeamish, nor do I have a fear of dead bodies, but I think I'd be a little uncomfortable if asked to pose next to my not long since deceased baby sister 😳
Can you substantiate that claim?....considering to this very day no one yet knows which side actually fired the first shot?
@@wesstover1632 British fired upon the soldiers on the bridge in Concord. Normal activity was too volley shots over the heads....call it a day of engagement and leave. On that morning they received direct fire. Killed many officers.
"For God sakes...fire back"
Well documented.
It’s astounding that a 15-year old boy from Revolutionary War America is considerably more literate and eloquent of speech than many of today’s kids.
Your boomer is showing my guy. Literally nearly everyone was illiterate back then. Not to put down this memoir, but it’s only considered eloquent because it’s written in the manner of speech of the day. If he wrote his accounts today he would’ve been as rude and crass as anybody else and you’d be looking down at him for it.
@@skipperwarp9 I’m a retired veteran and I can tell you that if you’re illiterate, you will not get into military service. Many thousands of kids today are turned away because they can’t read or write - mostly minorities that have dropped out of school or are drug addicts. Which makes what I said even more astounding - it’s amazing that a young man from over 200 years ago had better literacy skills than many of today’s kids who have all of the combined knowledge of mankind literally at their fingertips, but the Revolutionary soldier did not, yet is better informed.
You're my favourite youtube GEM! I see your channel has grown a lot, keep up the awesome work !
Thanks!
wonderful stuff!
Nice video. I've always wanted to know more about this guys time in the Revolutionary War.
Another banger 👍👍👍
"Well if he dies his country will be rid of one who can do it no good"
Damn.
Would love to hear more of these soldier diaries
this is awesome. very engrossing
We are coming for you Canada.
No need to annex Canada. Canada is already a Satellite state of the United States.
That sounds like a joke, but one day soon they may need help breaking free from they tyranny they live under now. Their government treats white, Christian men as second-class citizens.
The socialist cult will meet physical resistance very soon. Everyone needs to be prepared.
@@christisking1576 Canada isn't as left wing as you think
@@melvinklark4088 are you kidding? wait do you mean the government or the people themselves? because I was just referring to the government
@@christisking1576 Such second class citizens that one is the head of state. Get real
First hand narratives are priceless, especially from the common man. Great work.
Recreivings of nature, what beauty and eloquence our forefathers spoke with. Such a colorful way to say I wouldn't steal even through hunger.
I remember hearing excerpts from Joseph Plumb Martin's diary in other Revolutionary War-era videos. It was interesting to hear about a "foxhole-level" view of The War for Independence.
Very well done by the choice of narrator in helping bring the diary to life. A true account of a 'Red Badge of Courage ' from the AWI.
BRILLIANT ....you even suppressed your accent! I wasn’t sure it was YOU lol. I so enjoyed the video you and your brother did with Stephan Milo
I love your american accent. I can still tell it's you but you also sound like you're a Yankee
No he doesn’t. The accent is much too broad. doesn’t sound like he’s from Philadelphia New England the south or the Midwest or anywhere in particular. It’s good, but he doesn’t quite sound like a Yankee.
Do we know what a “Yankee” sounded like in 1776?
@@marshdweller01 Vaguely. We know it as well as we know Shakespearian English.
@@marshdweller01 watch clips of John Adams and you will hear it.
Thanks! Another good one.and may i compliment you on the American accent. Welll done good sir!
Have the book. Great read. Really let’s you in on the mind of a person from back then.
This is good could there be a video done from a British soldier in the Revolutionary War?
He articulated well , seems a decent human being too.
This entire audiobook is (or was) available elsewhere on RUclips. Don't remember if it was the same narrator. I listened to it about a year ago. It's one of the better war autobios that I've come across.
The War for Independence... Hence Independence Day (July 4th). Those who believed in and fought for the cause wanted Independence. And did not consider themselves or the war revolutionary. This may seem trivial to some, but is of vital importance for the continuance of correct history. Especially in this day of cancel culture and how those in power love to change history to fit their narrative. Thank you I thoroughly enjoyed the insight!
Absolute chaos. Remarkable.
Love the new narrator! 👍
It's me!
@@VoicesofthePast Wonderful pipes!
He’s brilliant isn’t he 👍
More soldier diaries and accounts from any time period, the older the better.
Is this a new voice, or is it just me?
If it is a new voice, then I like it! An American voice for an American story :)
it's the same guy but putting on an accent
Really? Wow, well I definitely couldn’t tell.
I love these videos. I wish I could travel back in time to visit different eras and I suppose this is about the closest I'll get.
Btw my cat 🐈 looks almost exactly like yours, same colors. Is yours a ringtail too? Mine keeps his tail bent over his back a lot lol.
amazing
Pretty good American accent! I almost didn't recognize you for a minute. Well done, thanks.
Omg, how could you not fall in love with those Coco-eyes!
the original G.I. joe, Joseph Plum Martin.
Primary sources are always the best.
Inkshed is my new favorite word for internet fights.
I am not understanding the how, and why, of the soldier drinking from a creek until dead ?
When this happens if possible a Comrade needs to physically restrain the person from drinking too much water. You cannot just tell them as they are too crazed with thirst to listen.
Plum's book is a great little read.
Wow i love how you put on a great American accent!
Can you do Washington's Farewell Address we gave after his second term as President
How about something from the Autobiography of Calvin Coolidge. Loads of interesting stuff in there. The description of the how the senate *actually* "worked" in practice 100 years ago is accurate today (aside from the number of them given and mention of them being appointed), his story of him being sworn in at night by his dad on the family bible is amazing, and the whole section on why he chose not to run is a fascinating show of humility.
YES! You could start off with the story of the Coolidge effect! Did they have a happy marriage?
My 5th great grandfather, John Yost Meetze Sr, was a Hessian, conscripted to fight for the Brits. He deserted and, as I understand the story, was pursued for some 30 miles before reaching Patriot lines in South Carolina. He later became a pastor and founded a Lutheran church which still exists in Lexington, S.C.
Another 5th great grandfather, Blanchard Colding, fought in South Carolina and, possibly Georgia. His brother John was killed by Tories.
Fifth great-grandfather Francisco Xavier Sánchez was a member of one of two prominant St. Augustine families that did not go to Cuba when the British took over Florida from the Spanish. He fed and clothed Patriots held prisoner in the citadel by the Brits and provided passage back to New England for them when the war ended. www.staugustine.com/article/20130419/LIFESTYLE/304199984
Jon, I really enjoyed reading your comments. I also have, German, Irish and Spanish blood. My life partner, Janie, was born in Saint Augustine and she brought me to visit the Citadel. Believe me, being a "sensitive", that place definitely is haunted !!
The language of even the best educated of today can scarce hold a candle to to the prose of a private soldier in 1800
Not sure how I missed this the first time I watched. You've got a good American accent :)
This guy was a good friend.
I must praise your R rhoticity to produce your American Colonist accent. Even that one phonetic alteration very much changes the character of the speech. You do all justice to this enthralling historical account 💯
Could you consider reading Pericles Funeral Oration or Melian Dialogue?
MELIAN dialogues? That's a bit heavy going!
Hugh Laurie, Damien Lewis and now Voices of the Past speaking English with an American accent. Nice!
I'm not entirely sure Cocoa is a cat. Cocoa needs her own channel where people can investigate this further.
Very interesting, haven’t taken a look yet, but I wonder if carcass was a slang term at the time, a touch of black humor, or the word was simply used differently. I may try to revive it, made me smile.
Lesson for veterans: hundreds of years from now, ppl will be interested to hear what you have to say if you put those experiences to the pen 🪶
Think about the fact that they can hear what you have to say through video,audio, text all of the above
hello Voices of the Past
What dose the author mean by 2:58 "An unlucky white above my shoulder"?
It'd be interesting if you could do this with a diary of a British soldier on the invassion campaigns of the River Plate in 1806 and 1807. That was the first great defeat of the British Empire and in 1807 they even sent 14000 troops to invade Buenos Aires when it only had 50000 inhabitants (hence, if you don't count women, children and the elderly, almost a soldier for a man in military age)
I hope you have more of this guys story
It ironic, and Sorrowful but as a new york city police officer ,I patrolled this area of Brooklyn, then the water was Clean yet stained with blood of American patriots,and in my time Polluted with chemicals and trash...No marker did I see where these BRAVE MEN FOUGHT.
cool
This is better than school
When they were talking about the guy who died while drinking at the creek, was that because he had like gone into shock from drinking too much at once after being dehydrated? I've heard of that happening...
A lot of that New York shoreline would have been saltwater marshlands... I wondered if he'd been drinking brackish water out of desperation all day.
03:39 I not luke for reesorces, human. Put I down. Naw!
more importantly than cat thoughts, this is a great video.
soldiers, NCOs, officers... just keep these battlefield stories coming from any time period and nation
Every leader, politician, etc. who is responsible for sending soldiers into battle, need to know exactly what it's like and understand the world they are sending soldiers into.
im not understanding the drinking water to death part, can someone explain
Somewhere I read about French people criticizing a famous painting showing merry revolutionary soldiers on the way to battle. They said: "Happy recruits? That's not natural!"
Great job on the accent, even if you at times started slipping into a bit of an Irish flavor
Probably very close to an actual American accent of the time.
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. - statue of liberty
And then just die for me ....
The founders and the people who fought for this country’s freedom never would have approved of that stupid friggin’ poem written by a damn communist.
Imagine surviving a war you YOLOed.
"Out of reach of their combustibles" - lol