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If you are considering to tackle the War of Spanish Succession, the time in which Coehoorn and Vauban's tactics were combined, you should really do the Siege of Lille. It is part of one of the most eventful campaigns of the 18th century and saw brilliant commanders on both sides. Lille also was the strongest fortress of its day, which makes it all the more interesting.
Before anyone comments about 2:17 the use of 'Wesley' and not 'Wellesley', Wesley was actually the surname of his family and was subsequently changed to Wellesley later on. Source: Rory Muirs's Duke of Wellington biography
Fun fact: at 10:59 the image on the right shows Spanish Grenadiers storming the walls of Pensacola. The Spanish would capture the city, and with it attain control of the entirety of West Florida from the British. This was in 1781.
I work as a tourist guide in Badajoz (my hometown) and im so glad you guys treated this topic with such accuracy! Just couple of corrections: - Guadiana River flows east to west - The small creek is called Rivilla - The forts are Pardaleras and Picuriña (i live nearby) And yes, the population of the city left inside (about 1500 civilians) hoped for a quick liberation from the french attrocities, just to meet something even worst. People were shooted where they stood, houses were raided, women were raped...
@@jameswatt4114 hombre no estabamos en las cruzadas pasando a cuchillo a la población de Jerusalem, igual en 1812 con un ejército regular moderno y jerarquizado se podían haber cortado un poco de masacrar a la población civil de mi ciudad solo porque les costara asediarla
Has leido lo que hacian las tropas serbias cuando tomaban una ciudad a fines del siglo 20 solo por darte un ejemplo o en la captura de una ciudad en la segunda guerra mundial ??? Ademas Badajoz no fue algo comun en las tropas brittanicas durante su estancia en españa Se debio a que muchos de los soldados perdieron seres queridos ,amigos estaban con unas ansias de revancha y animalizacion incontrolables
Interesting that the main assault failed and yet the less important assaults achieved a lot. Reminds me of that Sun Tzu principle where you make your enemy concentrate their forces where you want them to be so you can succeed somewhere else. Great video.
There's a memorial in the former fortress town of Elvas, just a few miles over the Spanish/Portuguese border, to the British soldiers who fought on the side of Portugal. I visited that recently. The Town of Badajoz is now very built up, Elvas and its surrounding fortifications are better preserved. Worth a visit.
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It is true, although it must be clarified that the walls are still there in Badajoz, except for the area of the Alcazaba and its surroundings, which have been little intervened, in addition to the river front, the rest has several buildings built very close to the walls, but most of them are still preserved (they have not disappeared completely). However, in that case I recommend visiting the fortification of Ciudad Rodrigo, which has the walls in a similar state to those of Elvas, maintaining even the ditch and the Glacis, unlike Badajoz.
Very good! There is a curious story from that siege, that of Juana Maria de Leon who ended marrying a captain Smith and giving her name to the city of Lady Smith in South Africa
The bloodiest siege of the Napoleonic Wars was the second siege of Zarogoza in 1809, between the French and the Spanish, with an insane 76,000 killed ! Badajoz pales in comparison...
Will you ever do WW1 sieges? There could be a lot of episodes about Przemyśl, Namur, Douaumont or Vaux for example, and it would be the final chapter in Vauban style defences. In Ypres the British used some structures that were actually built by Vauban.
As someone who has read the 7 volumes of Charles Oman and Esdaile's book, I must say this is an excellent video! Well done! I hope you cover more of the Peninsular War and Napoleonic Era.
I have no idea what he’s talking about. I’m guessing there’s a translation error or something, because there is no reference to “mines” used in “minefields” prior to World War 1 as far as I can tell.
Imagine a blackpowder bomb, hidden under rocks and debris that's ignited by a matchlock striker. The striker is controlled by a tripline, or a defender holding the rope that's attached.
Mantua was a staggering siege, and a complicated one, overshadowed by the battles it took place on the meantime, it would be great that you consider to do the 1796-1797 siege
I dont understand the part with the minefields... I mean in siege warfare, it had been common practice to tunnel under the enemy position, pack it with gunpowder and lighting it with a match. something similar I expect is what happened in the breach. but minefields on the approaches? how would they have been set off?
Basically like the graphic showed, they would have had fuses that lead to mortar rounds or barrels of powder buried a bit in the rubble which they would have lit as they retreated.
In front of the walls themselves are an assortment of earthen banks and ditches that they could use to sneak out at night and burry a few barrels of gunpowder here and there. Likely in the rubble of the breach Wellington didn’t scout the mines, he just saw they had reinforced the breach. I.e rebuilt the wall with those logs full of swords and bayonets/stationed a bunch more troops there.
If I recall, not neccessarily. In 1812 the Duchy of Warsaw, with consent of Napoleon, called the general confederation of the kingdom of Poland and subsequently proclaimed the resurrection of the Polish Crown with silent acceptance of Napoleon. He later organised the provisional Lithuanian government, with the intention of joining it up with Poland in a renewed union (as nobility of both nations, either Polish or largely polonised) supported. While it might have been a mistake, it also could havw been a brilliant, even if somewhat misguided point (not sure about the timeline atm, alao it was mostly symbolic act).
The Spanish became increasingly angry at the indiscipline of Wellington's troops in Spain. George Scoville, a polymath in Wellington's supply corp, came up with the idea of taking teams of sergeants from different regiments and had them follow the army sweeping up stragglers and executing those caught looting or assaulting the civilians. They were the foundation of the military police.
Great video, just a small comment. In the map at 9:45, towards the east the city of "Murcia" is shown but labelled "Murica", which is kinda wrong but mostly funny.
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>disregard siege methodology >lose 4k men in a single assault I realize that it probably was worth the losses, strategically speaking, but it also shows that sometimes things are done in a specific way for a reason.
The French were marching on Wellington. He had to take Badajoz, leave a garrison and move on, or - back to Portugal and campaign season a near failure.
The British will forever be the villains of the Napoleonic Wars. They created Napoleon with their attempt to steal French land after the revolution and then continued to antagonize the French throughout. Nothing but jealousy and spite.
Which lands did the British attempt to steal? Certainly not French land. We backed the Royalists. It wasn't jealousy or spite. It was a reasonable fear that a united continent could spell the end of her empire. Cold hard logic.
5:15 …what kind of “minefields” is he talking about? I can’t find a single source to read about Napoleonic era mine warfare. Like not a single one, not in reference to the Siege of Badajoz or anywhere else.
Thank you for pointing out how wasteful Wellington’s haste was. Had he followed a more traditional plan for his siege he could have taken the town with far fewer casualties, casualties that would have been useful during the rest of the war…
@@Raadpensionaris Oh I wont deny that. I am just annoyed by OPs ignorance regarding context. His comment makes it seem like Wellington had a choice to do it slower and was choosing casualties just because.
Sharpe isn't a film about Badajoz, it's a TV series that takes in the whole of the Napoleonic War and beyond ( although the two set in India are not historically correct).
I'm sure you are correct about what he meant but what he said was 0:30 "Among other things, this battle provides the historical context for Bernard Cornwell’s novel Sharpe and the film based on it, Sharpe's Company" Now you and I know that there are many books, none of which is just called Sharpe, and several TV series but maybe not everyone who is watching this video knows that and my comment was for them.
@@ianchristian7949 Well you didn't mention the books, and also Sharpe's Company is the name of the specific episode of the Sharpe series that covers the siege of Badajoz.
I've always wondered if "Sand-Roman" is a derogatory word for a Byzantine. Like, are Italian Romans ACTUAL Romans, and Byzantines "Sand-Romans" because they inhabited more desert regions? If so, that's very clever!
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Minefields? Really? What is the earliest use of minefields in war?
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but was it staggering?
It is.
what is the reference?
@@hko2006 og watchers of this channel remember when the word "staggering" was in every single script.
@@hko2006 in the first minute it says "this staggering siege"
I also need my staggering
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If you are considering to tackle the War of Spanish Succession, the time in which Coehoorn and Vauban's tactics were combined, you should really do the Siege of Lille. It is part of one of the most eventful campaigns of the 18th century and saw brilliant commanders on both sides.
Lille also was the strongest fortress of its day, which makes it all the more interesting.
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Amen.
But most importantly , was it a staggering siege ?
I want "Staggering" ! for the title.
Before anyone comments about 2:17 the use of 'Wesley' and not 'Wellesley', Wesley was actually the surname of his family and was subsequently changed to Wellesley later on.
Source: Rory Muirs's Duke of Wellington biography
That's a weird thing to do, why did they?
@@ZS-rw4qq To make them appear more grand & separate themselves from the more common Wesley name
How Staggering! 😱
Covering the siege of Badajoz? Now thats soldiering!
Have to cover the forlorn hope that got Sharpe and Harper their oak leaves!
Fun fact: at 10:59 the image on the right shows Spanish Grenadiers storming the walls of Pensacola. The Spanish would capture the city, and with it attain control of the entirety of West Florida from the British. This was in 1781.
A little known and underappreciated campaign of the American Revolution.
@@desmondd1984 Indeed. Bernarndo Gálvez (of Galveston fame) was the man behind it.
Can't believe we traded Cuba for Florida. What a steal for Spain.
I work as a tourist guide in Badajoz (my hometown) and im so glad you guys treated this topic with such accuracy! Just couple of corrections:
- Guadiana River flows east to west
- The small creek is called Rivilla
- The forts are Pardaleras and Picuriña (i live nearby)
And yes, the population of the city left inside (about 1500 civilians) hoped for a quick liberation from the french attrocities, just to meet something even worst. People were shooted where they stood, houses were raided, women were raped...
Son cosas que sucedian en los asedios de aquel tiempo
@@jameswatt4114 hombre no estabamos en las cruzadas pasando a cuchillo a la población de Jerusalem, igual en 1812 con un ejército regular moderno y jerarquizado se podían haber cortado un poco de masacrar a la población civil de mi ciudad solo porque les costara asediarla
It is always the innocent who pays the price in wars. War never change (and the civilians are the one most affected)
Has leido lo que hacian las tropas serbias cuando tomaban una ciudad a fines del siglo 20 solo por darte un ejemplo
o en la captura de una ciudad en la segunda guerra mundial ???
Ademas Badajoz no fue algo comun en las tropas brittanicas durante su estancia en españa
Se debio a que muchos de los soldados perdieron seres queridos ,amigos estaban con unas ansias de revancha y animalizacion incontrolables
@@jameswatt4114 la verdad es que ahí te tengo que dar la razón
Another siege video let's gooooooo! I love these!
Interesting that the main assault failed and yet the less important assaults achieved a lot. Reminds me of that Sun Tzu principle where you make your enemy concentrate their forces where you want them to be so you can succeed somewhere else. Great video.
There's a memorial in the former fortress town of Elvas, just a few miles over the Spanish/Portuguese border, to the British soldiers who fought on the side of Portugal. I visited that recently. The Town of Badajoz is now very built up, Elvas and its surrounding fortifications are better preserved. Worth a visit.
It is true, although it must be clarified that the walls are still there in Badajoz, except for the area of the Alcazaba and its surroundings, which have been little intervened, in addition to the river front, the rest has several buildings built very close to the walls, but most of them are still preserved (they have not disappeared completely).
However, in that case I recommend visiting the fortification of Ciudad Rodrigo, which has the walls in a similar state to those of Elvas, maintaining even the ditch and the Glacis, unlike Badajoz.
Covering a Napoleonic eara Siege and making reference to Sharpe! Now that's Staggering!
I appreciate all your videos over the years and wish you continued success.
Thank you!
Very good! There is a curious story from that siege, that of Juana Maria de Leon who ended marrying a captain Smith and giving her name to the city of Lady Smith in South Africa
You are a back and with the Peninsular campaign, a happy day for me!
Finally, you're back
Incredible! I have recently been learning/reading about this myself. Thank you, keep up the good work.
As a viewer from Badajoz, I have to congratulate you on your pronunciation of the name. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks!
I love the new artwork. Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
The bloodiest siege of the Napoleonic Wars was the second siege of Zarogoza in 1809, between the French and the Spanish, with an insane 76,000 killed ! Badajoz pales in comparison...
yeah the numbers are:
spanish: 52000 dead and 12000 captured
french: 4000 died in combat and 6000 from disease
I believe this is the bloodiest assault thought.
Yeahhhhhhhh! Finaly someone that shows some love to spanish history, thank you so much man!
Glad to see you back missed these videos
They did the Badajoz, no damn way
Will you ever do WW1 sieges? There could be a lot of episodes about Przemyśl, Namur, Douaumont or Vaux for example, and it would be the final chapter in Vauban style defences. In Ypres the British used some structures that were actually built by Vauban.
I am not sure how I discovered your channel but I am so glad I did!
I cant believe that you finally learned that there are other adjectives to describe sieges
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I belive it is bloody/bloddiest
Wow I had no idea the assault was won by the flanking attacks! How very total war of them.
Great quality as always but as an Irishman I am required to request a video on Ireland such as the Battle of the Boyne
The Boyne would be cool, although Aughrim might be more deserving of a video.
As someone who has read the 7 volumes of Charles Oman and Esdaile's book, I must say this is an excellent video!
Well done! I hope you cover more of the Peninsular War and Napoleonic Era.
Well, those books are very partial, to say the least.
@omarbradley6807 try to find books that cover the peninsular war in better detail.... Id love to read them
Really nice work here!
Awesome work as usual thank you
The Sharpe's Rifles episode about this siege is clutch
legitimately loved the art for this episode, it added so much, keep it up!
I like the old 2D soldiers
Glad you liked it!
I love these videos. They are great.
Great video thank you
Wait, mine fields? Back then? WOW
Land mines existed since the first half of the 16th century
I have no idea what he’s talking about. I’m guessing there’s a translation error or something, because there is no reference to “mines” used in “minefields” prior to World War 1 as far as I can tell.
@@GrandAdmThrawn Military mines existed since the first half of the 16th century
Imagine a blackpowder bomb, hidden under rocks and debris that's ignited by a matchlock striker. The striker is controlled by a tripline, or a defender holding the rope that's attached.
@@hotrod3395 France been blowing up brits and germans with mines since centuries
Excellent as always!
Sharpe man of the match
Would love to see a video on the Siege of Zaragoza!
No Ciudad Rodrigo?😢
The death of 'Black Bob' Crauford...
Just mentioned in passing...
Mantua was a staggering siege, and a complicated one, overshadowed by the battles it took place on the meantime, it would be great that you consider to do the 1796-1797 siege
I dont understand the part with the minefields... I mean in siege warfare, it had been common practice to tunnel under the enemy position, pack it with gunpowder and lighting it with a match. something similar I expect is what happened in the breach. but minefields on the approaches? how would they have been set off?
And how would Wellington have “scouted” tunnels charged with mines on the approaches?
Basically like the graphic showed, they would have had fuses that lead to mortar rounds or barrels of powder buried a bit in the rubble which they would have lit as they retreated.
They didn't have time to dig tunnels. It had to be a quick victory or retreat.
In front of the walls themselves are an assortment of earthen banks and ditches that they could use to sneak out at night and burry a few barrels of gunpowder here and there. Likely in the rubble of the breach
Wellington didn’t scout the mines, he just saw they had reinforced the breach. I.e rebuilt the wall with those logs full of swords and bayonets/stationed a bunch more troops there.
Excellent video.
Marking the Duchy of Warsaw as Poland-Lithuania must be the most bizarre map mistake I have seen in the last few months.
If I recall, not neccessarily. In 1812 the Duchy of Warsaw, with consent of Napoleon, called the general confederation of the kingdom of Poland and subsequently proclaimed the resurrection of the Polish Crown with silent acceptance of Napoleon. He later organised the provisional Lithuanian government, with the intention of joining it up with Poland in a renewed union (as nobility of both nations, either Polish or largely polonised) supported. While it might have been a mistake, it also could havw been a brilliant, even if somewhat misguided point (not sure about the timeline atm, alao it was mostly symbolic act).
The Spanish became increasingly angry at the indiscipline of Wellington's troops in Spain. George Scoville, a polymath in Wellington's supply corp, came up with the idea of taking teams of sergeants from different regiments and had them follow the army sweeping up stragglers and executing those caught looting or assaulting the civilians. They were the foundation of the military police.
the shattered banners in the ditch r a great underlining of the losses
love this channel
lovely opener with the book 2:04
0:40 the video from Sharpe’s if from Sharpe’s Waterloo not company
The horn blower and sharpe sagas are my top historical fiction series if y’all looking for reading material, that will keep y’all busy
I will never understand but always enjoy the title()
Please do the Siege of Petersburg
When was that?
Great video, just a small comment. In the map at 9:45, towards the east the city of "Murcia" is shown but labelled "Murica", which is kinda wrong but mostly funny.
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Please put more Wellington battles and sieges
The map at 2:10 is pretty wrong, many more territory was controlled by the Spanish patriots by 1810.
That was staggering...
Very fascinant
Liberation is always followed by brutalities commitment by liberators...wonderful introduction...Liberation or imperialist exchanges?
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Chosen men!
They were bleeding so hard they didn't even stagger
>disregard siege methodology
>lose 4k men in a single assault
I realize that it probably was worth the losses, strategically speaking, but it also shows that sometimes things are done in a specific way for a reason.
The French were marching on Wellington. He had to take Badajoz, leave a garrison and move on, or - back to Portugal and campaign season a near failure.
2:08 The polish client state in the east was called Duchy of Warsaw, not Poland-Lithuania.
Speaking of successful assaults, care to make a video on Suvorov's military career?
The British will forever be the villains of the Napoleonic Wars. They created Napoleon with their attempt to steal French land after the revolution and then continued to antagonize the French throughout. Nothing but jealousy and spite.
lets just ignore the fact that Austria and Prussia both declared war on France without the british forcing them to do it
LELO
I agree with the British being villiains in this one, however Napoleon was a creation of the revolution and a pretty great one
Which lands did the British attempt to steal? Certainly not French land. We backed the Royalists.
It wasn't jealousy or spite. It was a reasonable fear that a united continent could spell the end of her empire. Cold hard logic.
When you first saw it were you staggered by its majesty?
Do you know what the game lines of battles is if not could you pls play it :)
Interesting
Bloodiest but not staggering thus mid siege 🥱
Staggering
Good video, but I much preferred the old artwork style. Is the new style AI generated? It looks a bit off in places.
2:16 It was Duchy of Warsaw, so more or less "Poland", not Poland-Lithuania.
And there is even bigger problem. WTF is going on in Italy? Whare are Italian States!?
There was not anymore polish Lithuanian commonwealth (POL-LITH on video) but Duchy of Warsaw created by Napoleon
I can't stop watching sandrhoman's video's. Someone please send help.
Ò Elvas ò Elvas.
Badajoz à vista!
5:15
…what kind of “minefields” is he talking about? I can’t find a single source to read about Napoleonic era mine warfare. Like not a single one, not in reference to the Siege of Badajoz or anywhere else.
Common bro, that's Sharpe's Waterloo.
Como siempre los britanicos molestando a los españoles en lugar de ayudar xd
I am Starting a new NTW game after this lol.
Why is bro using a Picture of Marahall Soult that was taking long after he retired?
Thank you for pointing out how wasteful Wellington’s haste was. Had he followed a more traditional plan for his siege he could have taken the town with far fewer casualties, casualties that would have been useful during the rest of the war…
He was on a Timer unfortunatly.
@vinz4066 While true, the British proved remarkably incompentent besiegers in multiple aspects.
@@Raadpensionaris
Oh I wont deny that. I am just annoyed by OPs ignorance regarding context. His comment makes it seem like Wellington had a choice to do it slower and was choosing casualties just because.
French massively outnumbered Wellington in Spain but luckily their armies were separated most of the time. If 2 French armies caught him, it was over.
No se pueden juzgar los actos de aquel tiempo con la moral de hoy.....
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How staggering
It was indeed bloody.
Damn, it sounds like something taken from WWI
now that's soldiering
Waterloo before Waterloo
Sharpe isn't a film about Badajoz, it's a TV series that takes in the whole of the Napoleonic War and beyond ( although the two set in India are not historically correct).
I think it's considered a series of "TV movies" given the length of each installment
Also he was talking about a specific episode of Sharpe, not the whole series.
I'm sure you are correct about what he meant but what he said was 0:30 "Among other things, this battle provides the historical context for Bernard Cornwell’s novel Sharpe and the film based on it, Sharpe's Company"
Now you and I know that there are many books, none of which is just called Sharpe, and several TV series but maybe not everyone who is watching this video knows that and my comment was for them.
@@ianchristian7949 Well you didn't mention the books, and also Sharpe's Company is the name of the specific episode of the Sharpe series that covers the siege of Badajoz.
None of the Episodes are exactly historical accurate.
I've always wondered if "Sand-Roman" is a derogatory word for a Byzantine. Like, are Italian Romans ACTUAL Romans, and Byzantines "Sand-Romans" because they inhabited more desert regions? If so, that's very clever!
This Chanel is Run by two Brothers. Sandro and Roman. At least thats what I remember.
@vinz4066 , Ahh, ok! Well, thank you very much. I've always wondered... and now I know!😊
more Napoleonic content
That's... insanity. Just because it (sort of) works doesn't mean it's a good idea.
You skated past the '100 civilian deaths' - look at the civilian casualties in every French siege in the Peninsula?