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@@thomasobermair15 not a skill issue. It's RNG. Sometimes you are fully aimed, and the shot goes sideways. It is not consistent, and it is bloody annoying that there is that RNG. I mean, I get it that there is RNG for the thickness of the armor and the penetration, but the projectile trail RNG is just dumb.
It depends on the base shell speed. Very slow velocity guns get almost no benifit since it is a percentage based buff. I wish they did less percentage based skills since tanks that need it the most do not get much compared to others.
Mobility on this thing as well as gun stats/dpm allow it to brawl with meds and HTs, always out trading smaller guns. This is a pretty easy tank to do 4k+ dpg in.
@ dont be delusional mate, the tank is not fast as a medium tank to do this, with 340 heat you are one big green light and If you brawl you are giant meat ball :D
I love this tank. I 100x times rather play the 114SP2 than the shitty grille 15. The Gun works like it should on the Grille 15. The gun is not trolling as much like with the Grille. The gun hits where i aim mostly. And that why i like this tank. Yeah, it is expensive, but i still would pay it. Besides FV4005, it's one of my favorite tier 10 TDs.
i have it and its absolutly OP i would pay 30k for it... Its just a Mindset thing and someone already proven it with the 268/5. Only shit rounds until he reseted his opinion and changed the playstyle then got 5-7k per game. Same goes for this Tank. I mean i have it
I remember grinding this tank for the ranked rewards, was an absolute nightmare, but fully worth it imo. I still love it. It's not that fancy but slaps really hard and fast.
Lol what? 114sp2 bad? It has the best dpm out of all 650-750 alpha guns (actually i think ho-ri beats it by almost nothingbut whatever), it has a full turret, its flexible, has a decent chunk of hp (2k isnt the best but could be worse, u are unlikely to get 1 shot by shitbarns from full), it has good camo and rly good vr for a TD (390m). The only 2 bad things about this are the pen (for a t10 td 329 apcr is quite bad) and speed, the gun is nice and 1000+ shell velocity is by no means bad when most other t10 TDs are rocking 950. The armor is not a deal breaker either, its not paper and it will not get deleted by standard HE like the grille And also the grille is not a bad tank either, ppl see the insane accuracy and expect to snipe the cupola of a 260 from 500m away. Its mobile, its accurate, has very nice velocity on the ap and the aim time for the caliber and alpha is insane. Soft terrain resistance gets completely negated by offroad driving and u are left with the abysmal .4 dispersion on turret traverse as the only meaningful downside (tank traverse and camo are also up there but with camo and turbo/irm they become bearable). If you truly want a bad t10 TD, look no further than 268 5. Worse gun, worse velocity (doesnt even break 1k), worse mobility, less flexible, t5 vr (360m), its just a bad E4 with worse armor (and yes it has even has less dpm than the e4)
.... I never knew this thing could get up to sub 10sec reload. It's actually super busted for superunicums, I might actually take a look at it after getting the other tanks first.
Its a TD not a heavy tank.... hes reviewing it like its a heavy tank. Of course it sucks as a heavy. MANY TDs have no armor and are sluggish. I wouldn't get it for 20k or at all either but I dont think this is a shocker.
I wanna be real here. This tank is not intended for the average player. This tank is intended for the players which play the game since ten years ago and want something more unique.
How about bond turbo with a t3 experimental mobility? Should make this pretty fast and would help gun handling too. Wait you can't put these both. Maybe Bond turbo with bond rotation mechanism.
well, even it has no armor, this is a tank for close combats, but not so ultimate as T110E4 for example, you should catch enemies on their reload or trade with lower alpha guns
Please make a video on new shell velocity increasing skill. That is the most needed skill for bad derpy aim tanks like : Fv4005, Fv4004, Elc even, ISU 152 etc. I can't believe people are missing out on this.
I came back to the game after a year's break and got the concept 5 during December.... the things you say for this TD are the exact same feeling I have for that turd of a giant truck
max what do you think about all of the game fixes that chems has been proposing lately, I think he's proven himself to be very adept in understanding what changes need to be made in order for WOT to survive
I got it from ranked, its a weird one as it can't brawl but its also not the sneaky sniper. "turds more resilient to firepower" describes its armor perfectly 🤣🤣🤣
I got to Silver the first week of onslaught and stopped playing. I just got the 1k bonds and that was it. I only have 14k bonds rn so I can't even get the concept unless I get to champ which I don't even want to bother because of my schedule atm. I am hoping that I can get it next time.... I would be pissed if this is the last time concept 1b is a reward in the onslaught shop. I doubt it but WG does some weird stuff out of no where.
with those bad terrain resistance this tank would had a FASTER effective top speed with Grousers instead of a Turbo. Additionally the effective traverse speed would be higher.
oh, even tier 6 ... no, not in tier 6 i met this thing in battle lately but in T-54mod1 and yes, i penned it no gold - twice. so it shot me twice too and happily it low rolled on the second one and survived with 6 HP.
Oh boy, just the video I'm looking for. This is the only really I'm participating in onslaught! I would really like to get this tank. Probably will end up spending 20k bonds
this thing has good CAMO, very good gun handling (unlike grille15), very good DPM, good enough armor to not get one shotted by arty or FV (unlike grille). i think the issue is bad pen. i am on silver B at the moment if I get to gold and have enough bonds i probably will get it. the SP is better than grille if team fails because at least you have reasonably good camo (nearly twice as good as grille) so you have a chance to spot for yourself using bushes and not get spotted first as per the grille 15, it was a massive disappointment at first, but after you rank up your crew skills and get more experience with it, it actually starts to be enjoyable. i am currently barely at 50% win rate and around 83% MOE, plan to move to all bond equipments in the future (currently all bounty aiming, rammer and rotation)
Yes, it has better camo than the Grille (33,68% compared to 21.6%), which still doesn't make sense when comparing them size-wise. But, the 114SP2 does not at all encourage any form of aggressive play since it feels so sluggish and cumbersome, while Grille is speedy enough to take more aggressive positions (and to reposition. If your flank gets overrun in the 114, you're kinda doomed). Also, it does NOT have any armour, you need about 150mm to pen it, frontally. FV doesn't care about that, not in the slightest. To add to this, it's so much of a bigger target than the Grille is. (Take this from someone who played both and has three-marked the grille while struggling with the 114's boring cumbersome playstyle)
@@1NV1D14 ops, FV does pen it with hesh idk why i said what i said. anyway, i dont own the SP but from what i see it actually has good gun handling. the gun dispersion factors on the grille is horrible, it is worst than obj261 and gwe100 the last time i check, which are both arty. i agree with max, the more average wot players would enjoy the SP more because they will just camp and do well at times when the situation lines up. meanwhile, grille is a higher skill cap tank and you need to have a good understanding of the match up, the map and position, camo mechanics etc to do well in. but the SP is simplier. but speaking of this, the average camper would probably do a lot better in the obj 268/5 than SP because of the simple level of camo but significant better penetration of 390 HEAT which allows you go through everything.
Idk why people hate on this tank its super good, I avrg 5k on it then gun feels so good (ofc it will have its moments like every other tank) also yh id also happily pay 30k for this
Hello Max, could you do a video for charlemagne too ? Many people say it's horrible but in my opinion it's a strong tank and has potential .. furthermore it's a PREMIUM tank, not reward (many dont even know) .. this mean you can farm credit with it. And it does a lot of credit !
Sunday on EU server there were almost 200K players... Onslaught less the 400 between all leagues... I simply dont have the energy and the time to grind up the line to have a chance to buy a prem tank with bonds.... Therefore my view of the video stops after 30 seconds. Sorry max not this time...
I got it for free in ranked ( free ,haha hours of suffering…) personally I didn’t like it sold it after 50 games . Haven’t played it in years maybe I should give another try.
Anyone saying this tank is slow and slugish is a moron... also the gun on this is amazing with very fast reload for alpha like that... and the accuracy is great as well... no armor is a problem ? Well I guess Leopard 1 is bad too, right ? it's got no armor... that's means it's bad... I got this tank from ranked battles but I would pay bonds just for that gun handling. It's got one of the best guns on tier 10. And if shell velocity is a problem then I guess ShPTK TVP is a horrible tank as well, right ? wtf are you even mumbling about in this video ?
i got mine in ranked, for free, its meh,but cammo is damn insane,beside that its just,,,meh But u should get it,all should get it, otherwise wg will just introduce OP tanks,,,,buy shitty tanks people,so wg decide to implement more balanced tanks.
I could not get this tank if I wanted to because I cannot be arsed to play Onslaught. It isn't fun for me and life is too short to play games that are not fun.
Onslaught, the game mode where everyone spams nothing but gold and thinks they’re the reincarnation of rommal himself and boss you around then tries and push you into the enemy firing line when you ignore him.
@@nikoclesceri2267 literally not how it works, that was the old ranked. Onslaught is a team based mode and nobody pushes others into the enemy fire line as you only get wins for winning and pushing teammates to die isn't going to bring you a win. Well, unless you are in Iron or smth as no sentient player is there
@@jacobbalcer7913 the two times I tried it that's how it was, is full of toxic tryhards the ruin randoms for everyone else, but concentrated into a single mode
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Bought it last week and it’s been amazing. 4k avg dmg
just wait when the bad RNG kicks in you wont get a single shot in a game
@@gadofegaas7424 just aim correctly, skill issue.
@@thomasobermair15 not a skill issue. It's RNG. Sometimes you are fully aimed, and the shot goes sideways. It is not consistent, and it is bloody annoying that there is that RNG. I mean, I get it that there is RNG for the thickness of the armor and the penetration, but the projectile trail RNG is just dumb.
came to say the same thing - i dont know how it works so well but it does.
Mine 5.5. 3 marked in 77 battles. I didn’t enjoyed doing it lol
The more i think about it the more i realise how underrated the shell velocity crew skill is
Its certainly better than what people give it credit for
It depends on the base shell speed. Very slow velocity guns get almost no benifit since it is a percentage based buff. I wish they did less percentage based skills since tanks that need it the most do not get much compared to others.
it is primarly for arties in my opinion and due to the restriction of 6 perks, there are better more important ones to choose.
Mobility on this thing as well as gun stats/dpm allow it to brawl with meds and HTs, always out trading smaller guns. This is a pretty easy tank to do 4k+ dpg in.
brawl with 150 mm of armor haha bro you are a free breakfast on the field :D
@@ПламенЯнков-д1йtrading without donating is a high skill level play. It can be done, but not by average player.
@ dont be delusional mate, the tank is not fast as a medium tank to do this, with 340 heat you are one big green light and If you brawl you are giant meat ball :D
I love this tank. I 100x times rather play the 114SP2 than the shitty grille 15. The Gun works like it should on the Grille 15. The gun is not trolling as much like with the Grille. The gun hits where i aim mostly. And that why i like this tank.
Yeah, it is expensive, but i still would pay it.
Besides FV4005, it's one of my favorite tier 10 TDs.
For the rest of us - both are shit
Just got the grile 15 as my first tier ten tank. I’m liking it so far, except on maps where having a no armor sniper tank isn’t possible.
opinion discarded as soon as you mentioned FV4005 was one of your faves, while you shit on the grille 15
@@claudius_drusus_ man that profile pic, im trying to clean the monitor literally for a minute
True 100%👍🏻😊
Favorite tank in the game, would've paid 30k bonds for it. Makes the grille feel completely unplayable
i have it and its absolutly OP i would pay 30k for it... Its just a Mindset thing and someone already proven it with the 268/5. Only shit rounds until he reseted his opinion and changed the playstyle then got 5-7k per game. Same goes for this Tank. I mean i have it
Same goes for me😎🤗
Tank looks cool > buy it
F anything else
Fr
Another L take by Max
That’s his channel in a nutshell. I’ve pretty much never seen a single take of his that I agreed with.
I guess it's quite similar to the Grille in playstyle. So it doesn't surprise me he doesn't like it. It's just not his playstyle.
It's true, the tank sucks
Well, it’s his opinion. If he doesn’t like the tank he doesn’t like the tank.
@@gergo7507And nobody cares if you agree with what he says. You got your opinion and he has his
The shot you think missed (where does it go!?) was actually a blind hit on a tank in front of it. The gun is not as bad as you make it out to be.
well, probelbly not, it's just the intentionaly stupid game design of RNG the shot just flew over the tank
@ Not the shot I'm talking about.
The blind was on the T57, and it couldn't have been in front of the BZ.
@@MaxGamingFPS Maybe. Just unlucky then. I still like the tank.
I remember grinding this tank for the ranked rewards, was an absolute nightmare, but fully worth it imo. I still love it. It's not that fancy but slaps really hard and fast.
For me tank is very accurate and i enjoy play with it, sad to see Max not😢
Love opening up a comment section to see a horde of wallet warrior boomers who don’t understand the concept of value.
Lol what? 114sp2 bad? It has the best dpm out of all 650-750 alpha guns (actually i think ho-ri beats it by almost nothingbut whatever), it has a full turret, its flexible, has a decent chunk of hp (2k isnt the best but could be worse, u are unlikely to get 1 shot by shitbarns from full), it has good camo and rly good vr for a TD (390m). The only 2 bad things about this are the pen (for a t10 td 329 apcr is quite bad) and speed, the gun is nice and 1000+ shell velocity is by no means bad when most other t10 TDs are rocking 950. The armor is not a deal breaker either, its not paper and it will not get deleted by standard HE like the grille
And also the grille is not a bad tank either, ppl see the insane accuracy and expect to snipe the cupola of a 260 from 500m away. Its mobile, its accurate, has very nice velocity on the ap and the aim time for the caliber and alpha is insane. Soft terrain resistance gets completely negated by offroad driving and u are left with the abysmal .4 dispersion on turret traverse as the only meaningful downside (tank traverse and camo are also up there but with camo and turbo/irm they become bearable).
If you truly want a bad t10 TD, look no further than 268 5. Worse gun, worse velocity (doesnt even break 1k), worse mobility, less flexible, t5 vr (360m), its just a bad E4 with worse armor (and yes it has even has less dpm than the e4)
First person i see to only speak facts
.... I never knew this thing could get up to sub 10sec reload. It's actually super busted for superunicums, I might actually take a look at it after getting the other tanks first.
One of my all time favourite tanks, 5k dpg and having fun every second playing it. This just looks like a skill issue tbh...
really
Nice video, you got me to spin the tank in my garage for a good 30 seconds
Bought it few weeks ago as reached gold, and I LOVE this tank.
TLDW: Triange bad for not being medium tonk.
Its a TD not a heavy tank.... hes reviewing it like its a heavy tank. Of course it sucks as a heavy. MANY TDs have no armor and are sluggish. I wouldn't get it for 20k or at all either but I dont think this is a shocker.
I never spend my bonds on anything. I hoard it like it were bitcoins or even gold bars.
I wanna be real here. This tank is not intended for the average player.
This tank is intended for the players which play the game since ten years ago and want something more unique.
How about bond turbo with a t3 experimental mobility? Should make this pretty fast and would help gun handling too. Wait you can't put these both. Maybe Bond turbo with bond rotation mechanism.
Nice video. Shell velocity is one of the most important things.
You did not realize the ammo type for that tank is Q-Tips
I put vents and food on my tanks so they are comfortable before they get exploded via ammorack or get stun most of the game 😂
well, even it has no armor, this is a tank for close combats, but not so ultimate as T110E4 for example, you should catch enemies on their reload or trade with lower alpha guns
Please make a video on new shell velocity increasing skill. That is the most needed skill for bad derpy aim tanks like : Fv4005, Fv4004, Elc even, ISU 152 etc. I can't believe people are missing out on this.
I like the concept of the 114 sp2 but 1 its too expensive and 2 it needs a buff
I came back to the game after a year's break and got the concept 5 during December.... the things you say for this TD are the exact same feeling I have for that turd of a giant truck
WOW ? And I thought I was the only one that had 'disappearing' shells :)
max what do you think about all of the game fixes that chems has been proposing lately, I think he's proven himself to be very adept in understanding what changes need to be made in order for WOT to survive
most mid take of the year
Luckily for me, I got this thing way back when ranked was still a thing. I sold it ofc 🤣
idk i have m60 121b concept 1b and kpz ill get it and then i can spend every single bond i get on bond equipment and directives
Well I must say this was perfectly timed. I was just about to hit Gold and was thinking about buying it.
"I've had turds that are more resilient to firepower" KEKW
I almost have 100.000 bonds, so I think I will buy it later this week.
They did a camo nerf awhile back.
I got it from ranked, its a weird one as it can't brawl but its also not the sneaky sniper.
"turds more resilient to firepower" describes its armor perfectly
🤣🤣🤣
you know it's bad when he doesn't apply
I got to Silver the first week of onslaught and stopped playing. I just got the 1k bonds and that was it. I only have 14k bonds rn so I can't even get the concept unless I get to champ which I don't even want to bother because of my schedule atm. I am hoping that I can get it next time.... I would be pissed if this is the last time concept 1b is a reward in the onslaught shop. I doubt it but WG does some weird stuff out of no where.
It will be there again in 3rd season for stinger in next few months
with those bad terrain resistance this tank would had a FASTER effective top speed with Grousers instead of a Turbo. Additionally the effective traverse speed would be higher.
These kinds of tanks are the reason why we need Bounty Grousers. Pitifully I don't think WG understands what Grousers are even made for...
It's not, it goes at the same speed and you have less HP/Ton if you use grousers.
@@Flayed_GloryI just looked it up and it is true. Effective top with turbo is 35.3 and with grousers it is 36.12. Crazy how wg does this.
I was not happier with my life with the M60 😂
oh, even tier 6 ... no, not in tier 6 i met this thing in battle lately but in T-54mod1 and yes, i penned it no gold - twice. so it shot me twice too and happily it low rolled on the second one and survived with 6 HP.
Oh boy, just the video I'm looking for. This is the only really I'm participating in onslaught! I would really like to get this tank. Probably will end up spending 20k bonds
20k bonds is a lot for most players anyway.
12:20 most accurate 114sp2 shot
this thing has good CAMO, very good gun handling (unlike grille15), very good DPM, good enough armor to not get one shotted by arty or FV (unlike grille). i think the issue is bad pen.
i am on silver B at the moment if I get to gold and have enough bonds i probably will get it. the SP is better than grille if team fails because at least you have reasonably good camo (nearly twice as good as grille) so you have a chance to spot for yourself using bushes and not get spotted first
as per the grille 15, it was a massive disappointment at first, but after you rank up your crew skills and get more experience with it, it actually starts to be enjoyable. i am currently barely at 50% win rate and around 83% MOE, plan to move to all bond equipments in the future (currently all bounty aiming, rammer and rotation)
Yes, it has better camo than the Grille (33,68% compared to 21.6%), which still doesn't make sense when comparing them size-wise. But, the 114SP2 does not at all encourage any form of aggressive play since it feels so sluggish and cumbersome, while Grille is speedy enough to take more aggressive positions (and to reposition. If your flank gets overrun in the 114, you're kinda doomed).
Also, it does NOT have any armour, you need about 150mm to pen it, frontally. FV doesn't care about that, not in the slightest. To add to this, it's so much of a bigger target than the Grille is. (Take this from someone who played both and has three-marked the grille while struggling with the 114's boring cumbersome playstyle)
@@1NV1D14 ops, FV does pen it with hesh idk why i said what i said. anyway, i dont own the SP but from what i see it actually has good gun handling. the gun dispersion factors on the grille is horrible, it is worst than obj261 and gwe100 the last time i check, which are both arty. i agree with max, the more average wot players would enjoy the SP more because they will just camp and do well at times when the situation lines up. meanwhile, grille is a higher skill cap tank and you need to have a good understanding of the match up, the map and position, camo mechanics etc to do well in. but the SP is simplier. but speaking of this, the average camper would probably do a lot better in the obj 268/5 than SP because of the simple level of camo but significant better penetration of 390 HEAT which allows you go through everything.
Bro, you are snipping with a brawler tank 😢. This tank is the king of trade.
Excellent review. Thanks
Yep, missing those shots just shows the stupidity of rng.
Idk why people hate on this tank its super good, I avrg 5k on it then gun feels so good (ofc it will have its moments like every other tank) also yh id also happily pay 30k for this
What is the mod he is using showing his damage at bottom
Which mod do you have that shows you the pen ranges while looking at ammo like you did?
its in game
Hello Max, could you do a video for charlemagne too ?
Many people say it's horrible but in my opinion it's a strong tank and has potential .. furthermore it's a PREMIUM tank, not reward (many dont even know) .. this mean you can farm credit with it.
And it does a lot of credit !
I hope you do a video on the Charlamagne as well.
i have it since ranked end was in gold
How do u change garage ??
Who have object 268 V5 who get it for credits on auction don’t need this tank it’s same play style
They changed the garage?
i've been saving up for this garbage and i will buy it anyway :P
Meh, 1050m/s isn't bad AP shell velocity. But yeah the rest of the tank does seem bad.
I'm still getting it because I'm a Chinese tank shill
Sunday on EU server there were almost 200K players...
Onslaught less the 400 between all leagues...
I simply dont have the energy and the time to grind up the line to have a chance to buy a prem tank with bonds....
Therefore my view of the video stops after 30 seconds.
Sorry max not this time...
This is the best td. What do you mean? I love it! L max 😂
Im making hori3. Guy plz buy this tank. This shit is one of the best tier10 TD tank in game
Get KPZ 50T and Project 1B.
I got it for free in ranked ( free ,haha hours of suffering…) personally I didn’t like it sold it after 50 games . Haven’t played it in years maybe I should give another try.
i prefer simplicity, dunno why you say its a waste here
Of course it's crap, theres no need to test it to understand why, just read the stats.
So its like fv4005 with out the oneshot potential.
Intro was gold well done
Anyone saying this tank is slow and slugish is a moron... also the gun on this is amazing with very fast reload for alpha like that... and the accuracy is great as well... no armor is a problem ? Well I guess Leopard 1 is bad too, right ? it's got no armor... that's means it's bad... I got this tank from ranked battles but I would pay bonds just for that gun handling. It's got one of the best guns on tier 10. And if shell velocity is a problem then I guess ShPTK TVP is a horrible tank as well, right ? wtf are you even mumbling about in this video ?
I want it soooooo bad it hurts man
i think obj-268.5 better than 114sp2
bought if for 20001 bonds
Don't worry, I wont. Cause I'm not gonna ever get into gold. :D
How about 268v5 ?
I like the SP2.
Sounds like WZ-114, on paper its good, in game it sucked.
But you looks good, and that it all what metters
This whole game is a unique scam. Absolute rip-off with tanks, events, ammunition, etc. Simply disgusting!
i got mine in ranked, for free, its meh,but cammo is damn insane,beside that its just,,,meh
But u should get it,all should get it, otherwise wg will just introduce OP tanks,,,,buy shitty tanks people,so wg decide to implement more balanced tanks.
you don't even try
I'm getting the tank
Big, fat, slow and useless gun. You just described most of my tanks in the garage
I could not get this tank if I wanted to because I cannot be arsed to play Onslaught. It isn't fun for me and life is too short to play games that are not fun.
Onslaught, the game mode where everyone spams nothing but gold and thinks they’re the reincarnation of rommal himself and boss you around then tries and push you into the enemy firing line when you ignore him.
@@nikoclesceri2267 Yeah ... great fun! If you're a masochist, that is.
@@nikoclesceri2267 literally not how it works, that was the old ranked. Onslaught is a team based mode and nobody pushes others into the enemy fire line as you only get wins for winning and pushing teammates to die isn't going to bring you a win. Well, unless you are in Iron or smth as no sentient player is there
@@jacobbalcer7913 the two times I tried it that's how it was, is full of toxic tryhards the ruin randoms for everyone else, but concentrated into a single mode
You really don't like it, do you?
Yeah. It is a turd sandwich!
why u buy?
die Kanonen ist das ausschlaggebene
shihhh...i just bought it last week...fuhhhhh....
1.2 k shell velo is low? xD wtf? most tds as below 1.2k
I just looked it up and it is 7th highest base shell velocity tier 10 td that has been released. Premium shell is 6th place.
In think you can get in silver rank in onslaught
No its gold rank sorry to say
@ ok
Trash tank! I love your cofee more ))
Hey Max, I love the content, but gotta unsub cus the game isnt fun anymore; too busted
help
lousy opinion
Ask wg to put into bond shop. I want this tank but dun want to do onslaught
tell wg to give me 3 marks on every tank pls i cant bother to grind for them myself