Fundamentally the PYXIS is a Lumix S1H with BlackMagic color science. There's really nothing new about it. The specs relating to image quality is exactly the same as the S1H.
@@HGQjazz I’m well aware. I have loads of cinema 6k videos to see footage. I don’t care about that. the body design is completely new. I want real world scenarios of working with it on set.
All I was saying to myself while watching this commercial without having seen this breakdown yet, “look at all the neg and that little chase down the edge. DONT HIT THE NOSE…”❤
Been a fan of your work for years now. I'm glad other people will see this (due to the Pyxis) and start to see how well you break down things and add some humor to your explanations in a world that is so bent on taking themselves way too seriously. And yes, I would love to see another scene breakdown.
Wow this is legit the most detailed breakdown ive watched before. The most important part of this was knowing why he made his decisions!!! Thank you gee GOD bless you !!!
I’ve been following you for almost two years and this has to be one of the most helpful pieces of content you’ve released. I subscribed to the Patreon for a month or two, but didn’t find it as helpful as the courses or any more insightful than what you post on this channel. With that said, being able to see your work and hear your thought process as you take us through one of your shoots is extremely valuable content that I would pay $5-10 a month for. Also, I was excited to see Blackmagic choose you to shoot their content. I think it would be mutually beneficial if you shot all of their flagship camera content.
I agree as well. No shade to the content creators, but I’d rather hear from an actual filmmaker. I don’t want to hear stupid stuff like “Why did they put the monitor on the side?” For me there’s only 2 things I really care about in a camera. Image quality and ease of use.
@@jamarbrooks4690 I've shot on black magic cameras since 2016. It was accessible at the time for me, but I stayed for the raw files, the color science, and the fact that I love the image. The biggest issue black magic has had within the professional film community is it's build quality and performance issues. You can leave an Arri in the snow all day and it'll still turn on, but Black Magic's failed a few too many times and that's not something that's easy to get off your reputation. This was smart for black magic on two fronts: Patrick has a reputation as a DP first and speaks to those that are not looking to make content but work at the highest levels - by attaching his name to it they also get the access to his community. They could have gone with another working DP, but one without the community Patrick has built. On top of that Patrick is in Australia so saves them some $$$. Smart strategy on Black Magic's part.
I've come back here after downloading the footage from Black Magic's website SPECIFICALLY to shout out your 1stAC. That car shot where they NAIL 3 points of focus is sublime, especially how he snaps the girls eyes JUST as she hits the light while exiting the car. This is really IMPRESSIVE focus pulling so please tell him/her - we notice this stuff. GREAT WORK.
Fascinating, interesting, amazing... all the good stuff. As mentioned by others: this has to be one of the best breakdowns you've done so far. And I've been around for a couple of years already!
Thank you. Genuinely. Its refreshing to see a working DP not be overly technical as some of the posers preach, who present themselves as doing it all. It's good for other working DPs to feel normalized in our approach. "Barking out orders, but nobody is listening." 😂 That's some insider truth right there. 'God damn it can I get the 70mm, for the fourth freaking time!" "I asked the Gaffer...". You forgot to highlight that before he/she said, "yep," there was a 15-minute conversation of what their opinion of cinematography is, and then the sound guy chimed in too. 😂
I’ve been listening to the podcast for years. I didn’t imagine you looked the way you actually do. This is my first time seeing your face. Thank you for all the great content throughout the years.
This is dense, rapid fire and informative content, in exactly the tempo of the caffeinated and eager we all are, and exactly what I needed after a day shooting in the sun being disappointed in my own shortcomings. You teach me quickly and efficiently all the things you only get from experience and at the end, fulfill your real purpose, which is showing us all how deeply we suck. Nailed it. Thanks P, great video.
Yeah, great video. Thanks so much for doing that and yes, I would definitely like to see more videos on this Black Magic and how it’s performed for you in various scenarios.
Really great to see you working with Blackmagic. I'm sure for many of us, we are not using Alexa for our work. So it's great to see you stepping into our world. I would love to see more from this shoot. Sidenote: this video doesn't seem to show up on your channel. When I click your channel, and go to the most recent videos, it's just not there.
Great breakdown. Love that you keep it in the real world and not just a gushing camera review. Well done to Blackmagic for choosing an honest platform. No camera can do it all, it takes well executed plan with a knowledgeable crew. That said Blackmagic is giving use all a fighting chance. I’ve been watching and listening to your courses for a while now and it’s been incredible how it’s helped me. Thank you Patrick.
Glad you came around in the end for the self-mockery with the reflection shot you bashed the other DPs for 😅 Thanks for the breakdown - you really made that camera shine
Love this channel. Your work is insane. To have completed this, from scratch, in a couple of days, is incredible, especially with a skeleton crew. Respect.
Great breakdown and lots of great nuggets of lighting info. My favourite part of this breakdown is that although it was shot for Blackmagic, you could shoot this on more of less any camera these days and it would look great 👌🏻
Breathtakingly dense with interesting, enjoyable information. I'll never start a video career (82) until my next life where I'll train as a young Bollywood scriptwriter. But wow this was just a super enjoyable experience for an old stills guy (and very amateur, very occasional iPhone Pro video snapper). Uh, thank you X 10 and a big hearty Aretha respect.
outdoor scene breakdown and preperation will be great - i hope you explain about how much neg you use outdoor and how you dont blow up the sun outdoor - also how you preper for shotting day like this and choose the right time for every scene
hahaha that's the best review of a camera. "i normally shoot on a 100k++ camera." "now i tried this new 4k+ camera" "i didn't change my workflow" "did it look good? yes"
I was wondering when this collab would happen given your location. Actually really looking forward to your take on new URSA Cine FF. Hope they bring you on for that promo film as well. Cheers
Well done! Congratulations, man. One day, I hope to be like you. If you ever need someone to film in Portugal, let me know-I'll make time to help you out.😅🙃
Amazing video!! I guess with a dual iso cam, you could ND the windows and use less powerful fixtures (aperture 1200 or even 600) for a similar effect, right?
@@wanderingdp❤ Does that mean not quite as in somewhat or rather not really?:) At say a native (2nd) ISO 3200, the outside lights could be dropped by 3 stops. The window would need to be gelled with more ND and then we’d be able to match a similarly exposed room. I guess what won’t be quite the same is the color science of it all. Thanks so much for answering :))
So what are your thoughts in this scenario where you had using the haze in the forest instead when you’re trying to somewhat diminish the contrast for the shoot why would you not use a low contrast filter to assist with that?
Fantastic insight, thanks so much! That last shot, though. Did they use a motorized ND on the drone or was the exposure „animated“ in post? The image does get darker the further the drone flies, right? 🙈
When I saw the Pyxis video I was obviously impressed particularly by the thickness of the images, didn’t realise it was the Wandering DP that shot it👌🏿👍🏿. As a BM shooter I’m wondering how much of this look was created in post? Would love to see the Rec709 vs the final image and or the node tree.. but I’m guessing that’s not going to happen so will have to figure it out when I eventually get it! Thanks for the breakdown.
You said something in the video (12:10 in) which prompted me to ask...do you shoot as though you aren't going to color correct or color grade in post? Just curious really.
Isn't this the same sensor as the full frame 6k? When you say, "the ability to hold the color and highlights, that's the thing that was lacking before", how when the sensor is the same as different older model? Just curious.
It would be cool and frankly very informative to look at the False Color image of these shots to get a better understanding as to how hot/cool the highlights/shadows should look for achiving these types of beautiful creamy shots
To shift the dynamic range to hold highlights more than the shadows since there are more highlights than shadows outside. Day exteriors you don’t really see noise/grain. Really depends on the camera though.
He shoots on an Arri LF mainly so 1600 or 2000 would make sense, but on BM cameras its different due to their dual native ISO. Shooting 1600 on a BM camera wouldn't maximize highlight protection because the dynamic range shifts at 1250. If you're shooting on BM, ISO 1000 would be your setting for most dynamic range in the highlights, say if you're shooting outdoors. Just do a search for "BM Dual Native ISO dynamic range chart", that will give a good visual of how it all works.
Let’s say you need 3 stops of ambient to attain the desired ratio- are you using a light meter or false color (or something else I don’t know about 👀) to make sure it’s exactly where you want it so you’re not eyeballing it
@@wanderingdp okay I do that, I need 3 stops, I pump light in unseen windows, it looks great on my monitor, but how will I know for sure how much light I’ve actually added? Like I know I NEED 3 stops, and the monitor looks good, but idk wtf I actually added, it could’ve been 2 stops, but idk how to tell how many I’ve added…. Does that make sense? Like is there a tool or some way to determine I’ve added what I needed- no more, no less. Thank you, you’re a gem, I really appreciate your time to help
Appreciated the breakdown, more detailed than usual. I'd like to see a breakdown for the night interior scene if you don't mind. Thank you for sharing your experience in shooting this commercial shoot.
Please more from this shoot! You are the first person to get your hands on the Pyxis. We've been starving for real world use scenarios!
Yes!
Fundamentally the PYXIS is a Lumix S1H with BlackMagic color science. There's really nothing new about it. The specs relating to image quality is exactly the same as the S1H.
@@HGQjazz I’m well aware. I have loads of cinema 6k videos to see footage. I don’t care about that. the body design is completely new. I want real world scenarios of working with it on set.
yes please!
The 6K FF is the same OLPF and same sensor -- same image. Just different IO and body.
Really great breakdown dude. I saw the shoot from Blackmagic but didnt realize it was one of yours!
thanks
All I was saying to myself while watching this commercial without having seen this breakdown yet, “look at all the neg and that little chase down the edge. DONT HIT THE NOSE…”❤
def don't hit the nose
Been a fan of your work for years now. I'm glad other people will see this (due to the Pyxis) and start to see how well you break down things and add some humor to your explanations in a world that is so bent on taking themselves way too seriously. And yes, I would love to see another scene breakdown.
thanks for the feedback. yes will post another video of the night look and some BTS. I know Blackmagic is bringing out a proper BTS as well
Wow this is legit the most detailed breakdown ive watched before.
The most important part of this was knowing why he made his decisions!!!
Thank you gee GOD bless you !!!
Happy to have found your channel back. It popped up after a few years. Like your analysis.
I’ve been following you for almost two years and this has to be one of the most helpful pieces of content you’ve released.
I subscribed to the Patreon for a month or two, but didn’t find it as helpful as the courses or any more insightful than what you post on this channel.
With that said, being able to see your work and hear your thought process as you take us through one of your shoots is extremely valuable content that I would pay $5-10 a month for.
Also, I was excited to see Blackmagic choose you to shoot their content. I think it would be mutually beneficial if you shot all of their flagship camera content.
way easier to breakdown a shoot in a video then on a podcast. Maybe someday clients will let me do video more
This looks amazing dude, you did an amazing job. Also congrats being probably the first guy to use a pyxis for a real project lol.
Great breakdown, as always! I was glad it was you who shot it when it first dropped. A wise choice by BlackMagic.
Had the same thought. Very smart choice by BlackMagic
I agree as well. No shade to the content creators, but I’d rather hear from an actual filmmaker. I don’t want to hear stupid stuff like “Why did they put the monitor on the side?” For me there’s only 2 things I really care about in a camera. Image quality and ease of use.
@@jamarbrooks4690 I've shot on black magic cameras since 2016. It was accessible at the time for me, but I stayed for the raw files, the color science, and the fact that I love the image. The biggest issue black magic has had within the professional film community is it's build quality and performance issues. You can leave an Arri in the snow all day and it'll still turn on, but Black Magic's failed a few too many times and that's not something that's easy to get off your reputation. This was smart for black magic on two fronts: Patrick has a reputation as a DP first and speaks to those that are not looking to make content but work at the highest levels - by attaching his name to it they also get the access to his community. They could have gone with another working DP, but one without the community Patrick has built. On top of that Patrick is in Australia so saves them some $$$. Smart strategy on Black Magic's part.
glad it helped
Huge Blackmagic fan and a huge wandering DP fan! This video is like a ice cream brownie sunday!
bang
I've come back here after downloading the footage from Black Magic's website SPECIFICALLY to shout out your 1stAC. That car shot where they NAIL 3 points of focus is sublime, especially how he snaps the girls eyes JUST as she hits the light while exiting the car. This is really IMPRESSIVE focus pulling so please tell him/her - we notice this stuff. GREAT WORK.
I was so happy when i saw that you had the opportunity to shoot something for BM. Didn't expect a breakdown though. Thank you so much! 🖤
yeeeow
This is pretty awesome to see in perth! As a film grad, I didn't know we had any RUclipsrs here. So cool for BM to reach out.
YTers everywhere in Perth
Was waiting for this as soon as I saw the ad! Great stuff, please break down more setups from this.
will do
Fascinating, interesting, amazing... all the good stuff. As mentioned by others: this has to be one of the best breakdowns you've done so far. And I've been around for a couple of years already!
appreciate the feedback
Amazing work! Great to see you collaborating with Blackmagic, sounded like a fun shoot. Would love to see more from this :)
think they are releasing a bts video soonish
@@wanderingdp Cool, ill keep an eye out for that
I appreciate you taking the time to break this down for us. It is tremendously helpful.
Thank you. Genuinely. Its refreshing to see a working DP not be overly technical as some of the posers preach, who present themselves as doing it all.
It's good for other working DPs to feel normalized in our approach.
"Barking out orders, but nobody is listening." 😂 That's some insider truth right there.
'God damn it can I get the 70mm, for the fourth freaking time!"
"I asked the Gaffer...". You forgot to highlight that before he/she said, "yep," there was a 15-minute conversation of what their opinion of cinematography is, and then the sound guy chimed in too. 😂
pretty much
Beautiful visuals man! Love how informative this was as well, so much appreciation for your work.
I’ve been listening to the podcast for years. I didn’t imagine you looked the way you actually do. This is my first time seeing your face. Thank you for all the great content throughout the years.
be honest: you thought i was cooler before seeing my face didn't you?
Nice breakdown and images mate! Can't wait to get my hands on that elusive cam haha :)
it is nice
Amazing breakdown Patrick and obviously a really well shot video!
This is dense, rapid fire and informative content, in exactly the tempo of the caffeinated and eager we all are, and exactly what I needed after a day shooting in the sun being disappointed in my own shortcomings. You teach me quickly and efficiently all the things you only get from experience and at the end, fulfill your real purpose, which is showing us all how deeply we suck. Nailed it. Thanks P, great video.
disappointment is the baseline
Yeah, great video. Thanks so much for doing that and yes, I would definitely like to see more videos on this Black Magic and how it’s performed for you in various scenarios.
wow, impressive as hell. Love your breakdowns!!!
Really great to see you working with Blackmagic. I'm sure for many of us, we are not using Alexa for our work. So it's great to see you stepping into our world. I would love to see more from this shoot. Sidenote: this video doesn't seem to show up on your channel. When I click your channel, and go to the most recent videos, it's just not there.
I was surprised by how great the camera performed out of the box
Great breakdown. Love that you keep it in the real world and not just a gushing camera review. Well done to Blackmagic for choosing an honest platform. No camera can do it all, it takes well executed plan with a knowledgeable crew. That said Blackmagic is giving use all a fighting chance. I’ve been watching and listening to your courses for a while now and it’s been incredible how it’s helped me. Thank you Patrick.
transparency for the win
Glad you came around in the end for the self-mockery with the reflection shot you bashed the other DPs for 😅
Thanks for the breakdown - you really made that camera shine
ha. I went hard on the reflection/shadow shot so had to point out my own lack of ideas
Love this channel. Your work is insane. To have completed this, from scratch, in a couple of days, is incredible, especially with a skeleton crew. Respect.
So much value in this as a beginner to cinematography
Saw the video with your name in the title and clicked it so fast 😂 I'm like hmmmm, this shot is very frameworky, this must be Patrick from Wanderingdp
framework for the win
Great breakdown and lots of great nuggets of lighting info. My favourite part of this breakdown is that although it was shot for Blackmagic, you could shoot this on more of less any camera these days and it would look great 👌🏻
that basically summed up my whole experience. Once I saw the first shot I never thought about the camera again
Thank you! Would love to see more!
Thank you for always educating and entertaining us
I went right to your channel when I saw this on BM’s channel! It’s beautiful! Can’t wait until mine comes I.
Bro this video got me, I don’t care about the numbers and specs just look at this. Great video
Dude! This footage looks incredible!
thanks
Subscribed off this video. Incredible work and love your vibe
Breathtakingly dense with interesting, enjoyable information. I'll never start a video career (82) until my next life where I'll train as a young Bollywood scriptwriter. But wow this was just a super enjoyable experience for an old stills guy (and very amateur, very occasional iPhone Pro video snapper). Uh, thank you X 10 and a big hearty Aretha respect.
thanks for the comment. fun to hear someone out there is watching
Cool to see some of the masters work.. beautiful images my guy. ;)
Amazing content. Can’t wait to try the Pyxis.
Love the breakdown and the commercial, thank you!
Congrats for the commercial and the breakdown! Can you share the rig that you used in the commercial ? For example what ND system was used.
ND was just in a mattebox. Arri LMB
The PYXIS is legit a point and shoot camera fr
Self-deprecation game is tops. Seriously, excellent work on the Pyxis. 🙌🏻
Amazing stuff!
You and your team are so damn talented.
probably just the team but I appreciate the comment
outdoor scene breakdown and preperation will be great - i hope you explain about how much neg you use outdoor and how you dont blow up the sun outdoor - also how you preper for shotting day like this and choose the right time for every scene
I might do a schedule video just so folks see what actually goes in to deciding when to shoot and why
This is not the video we deserve but the one we need right now!
Just subscribed. Your channel is amazing and super helpful ❤️🔥
appreciate it
Another banger Patrick! 🙌
This is gold! Would love to hear you talk about the night interior setup as well!
video coming soon
hahaha that's the best review of a camera.
"i normally shoot on a 100k++ camera."
"now i tried this new 4k+ camera"
"i didn't change my workflow"
"did it look good? yes"
Amazing video!! Im stoked to use the Pyxis! Also what program are you using to draw in the footage for these breakdowns?
Nice breakdown. Thanks!
Yes! Another one, please.
I watched the video yesterday. It looked great, of course they wanted to make the camera look good with you behind it 😂
I was wondering when this collab would happen given your location. Actually really looking forward to your take on new URSA Cine FF. Hope they bring you on for that promo film as well. Cheers
fingers crossed
Bravo looks great!!
extremely useful breakdown and info, thanks!
Well done! Congratulations, man. One day, I hope to be like you. If you ever need someone to film in Portugal, let me know-I'll make time to help you out.😅🙃
Definitely would be interested in more breakdowns of this !
The footage looks stunning💪
Very interesting, as usual! I'd love to see a breakdown of the nighttime scenes indoor
OK
Super beautiful shots.
Great video and breakdown! How involved were you with the color grade? How much of the look was in-camera versus in the final delivery?
Amazing video!!
I guess with a dual iso cam, you could ND the windows and use less powerful fixtures (aperture 1200 or even 600) for a similar effect, right?
not quite.
@@wanderingdp❤ Does that mean not quite as in somewhat or rather not really?:)
At say a native (2nd) ISO 3200, the outside lights could be dropped by 3 stops. The window would need to be gelled with more ND and then we’d be able to match a similarly exposed room.
I guess what won’t be quite the same is the color science of it all. Thanks so much for answering :))
Id love to know what lenses were being used.
Nice work Pat! Some familiar faces in there too 😁
please more. yes more. now more. MORE.
ok
This was definitely was better than Ben Affleck's Sony ad lol
ha
🤣🤣🤣
Loved this, would also love to see some BTS pics of some of the lighting setups!
Blackmagic will be releasing a proper BTS on their channel soon i think
@@wanderingdp sick 🙏
I've lov shooting on my pocket 6k pro but yeah the native isos was hard to grasp
So what are your thoughts in this scenario where you had using the haze in the forest instead when you’re trying to somewhat diminish the contrast for the shoot why would you not use a low contrast filter to assist with that?
Haze affects contrast by distance. A filter wont do that
filter no good. haze better
Hopefully they allow you to get your hands on the Ursa Cine 12k, and then you can do a breakdown on that as well.
more like the 17K...
Beautiful work!
Fantastic insight, thanks so much!
That last shot, though. Did they use a motorized ND on the drone or was the exposure „animated“ in post? The image does get darker the further the drone flies, right? 🙈
Maybe I missed it but what T stop where you shooting at? I know you had 4 stops of ND so curious of how open you were
Awesome
When I saw the Pyxis video I was obviously impressed particularly by the thickness of the images, didn’t realise it was the Wandering DP that shot it👌🏿👍🏿. As a BM shooter I’m wondering how much of this look was created in post? Would love to see the Rec709 vs the final image and or the node tree.. but I’m guessing that’s not going to happen so will have to figure it out when I eventually get it! Thanks for the breakdown.
i think if you download the clips from the BM website you'll see it is pretty straightforward
@@wanderingdp I’ll check it out thanks!
@@wanderingdp oh and which tuning were the Blackwing Lenses? Looked beautiful..
You said something in the video (12:10 in) which prompted me to ask...do you shoot as though you aren't going to color correct or color grade in post? Just curious really.
As a Colourist... I find this images 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
yeow
Thanks for sharing this.
Isn't this the same sensor as the full frame 6k? When you say, "the ability to hold the color and highlights, that's the thing that was lacking before", how when the sensor is the same as different older model? Just curious.
as a BMCC6K owner i'd love to hear too
@@filmbythomas yes its the same
when does he say that it was lacking before?? and yes its the same camera, just in a different body
Yeah, it's literally the exact same sensor and electronics inside a different plastic shell.
Same sensor, but the electronics inside could be different, because the form factor can push better the electronics
It would be cool and frankly very informative to look at the False Color image of these shots to get a better understanding as to how hot/cool the highlights/shadows should look for achiving these types of beautiful creamy shots
did you shoot the beginning of your video (00:00-04:11) on the LF??
Amazing stuff Patrick, but the footage still won't sell this camera to me with that ancient sensor..maybe the next version of it 🤪
Did you shoot you talking to the camera on the Pyxis too?
5:50 can you explain why you like to shoot 1600 or 2000 iso outside? trying to understand why? thanks
To shift the dynamic range to hold highlights more than the shadows since there are more highlights than shadows outside. Day exteriors you don’t really see noise/grain. Really depends on the camera though.
He shoots on an Arri LF mainly so 1600 or 2000 would make sense, but on BM cameras its different due to their dual native ISO. Shooting 1600 on a BM camera wouldn't maximize highlight protection because the dynamic range shifts at 1250. If you're shooting on BM, ISO 1000 would be your setting for most dynamic range in the highlights, say if you're shooting outdoors. Just do a search for "BM Dual Native ISO dynamic range chart", that will give a good visual of how it all works.
it looks nicer
Sick dude
Very nice video. Waiting to test the camera in Bangkok soon too.
What filtration, if any, did you use for this? Thank you
nothing
Is there nothing filling in some shadow on the back of the man’s shirt? It seems like there’s a soft light on his back?
Let’s say you need 3 stops of ambient to attain the desired ratio- are you using a light meter or false color (or something else I don’t know about 👀) to make sure it’s exactly where you want it so you’re not eyeballing it
use the iris of the lens. Iris to what you want window to look like then see how many stops you need to shoot at the aperture you want
@@wanderingdp okay I do that, I need 3 stops, I pump light in unseen windows, it looks great on my monitor, but how will I know for sure how much light I’ve actually added? Like I know I NEED 3 stops, and the monitor looks good, but idk wtf I actually added, it could’ve been 2 stops, but idk how to tell how many I’ve added…. Does that make sense? Like is there a tool or some way to determine I’ve added what I needed- no more, no less. Thank you, you’re a gem, I really appreciate your time to help
Real sht. thanks for the vid.
When lens did you use for the wide forrest shot?
Tribe 47mm
Was this all shot on the Vazen Anamorphics?
no
More!
Appreciated the breakdown, more detailed than usual. I'd like to see a breakdown for the night interior scene if you don't mind. Thank you for sharing your experience in shooting this commercial shoot.
coming soon
What did you do in post? I would like to see the grade.
check the BM website for RAW files. nothing major