@@JeroenTel this is THE ONLY song which still stood on my phone clock alarm and didn`t get annoying (as it always was with others when it became morning alarms) :D Tomorrow i`ll wake up with it again! )))))) thanks!
I wonder if all this could be made with OPL-3 chip (18 channels)? Sine/half-sine waveforms are in it. If removing echo effect, maybe it could be possible with OPL-2 too (9 channels)?
@@pschiptunes64 I think you should see this video (and it will stick with you for the rest of your life, too)... ruclips.net/video/R4e-t0kHUyY/видео.html Enjoy! =D
I feel like the Sine and absolute sine wave are too underrated. That's one thing I love about this work. It uses those two wave-forms to make a great piece. And I thought that $11 Heaven was great.
@@JeroenTel U know how there's a couple vsts that lets u sample actual Genesis/megadrive game music file wavetable things. DO u know if there are any snes vsts like that?
@@marinellovragovic1207 “Not just a theory”… That’s theory in the mathematic sense: a way of describing stuff. That’s what mathematical theories are - abstract ways to describe “stuff”. The mathematical proofs use various theories together to make a logical argument. The crux of Fourier’s idea was that orthogonal functions are basis vectors in the space of functions. Any function in a linear function space can be equivalently described using a linear combination of other, basis functions in that same space. The basis functions don’t have to be sines. They can be wavelets and a lot of other shapes, and dimensionalities too. The idea extends beyond functions, to function-like objects like higher order functions, and so on. It’s pretty useful (an understatement), and thanks to it we got jpeg and compressed video - that are all built on transforms that work just like the Fourier transform, just with different basis vectors and applying to slightly more specialized function spaces :) I’d say that if there is one thing a “lay person” should know about linear algebra is the concept of basis vectors and linear spaces. It comes up all the time in other disciplines that use math to describe stuff.
@JeroenTel What inspired you to make this beautiful track? Because good lord. i literally come back to this song of yours, just to be purely blessed through my ears. and the fact that you are only one year younger then my pops is crazy. i also LOVE your track on the C64: Myth. You sir. are a ChipTune Legend... *bows* 🥵
@@JeroenTel Oh, does that make any difference in the sound? I don't think it does, since inverting a song that way doesn't make it sound different... does it?
Skeleday inverting sound he same only if you invert the whole thing, or invert at frequencies above hearing, which is not what is happening here. Semisines sound kind of between triangle waves and sawtooth
How can we call those only sine waves when I see some sinewaves that are pointy (akin to a triangle wave), possibly sounding like a really mild sawtooth wave? UPDATE: I'm now realizing that those must be "half-sinewaves"?
Just wondered: Using ring modulation with two triangle waves, it's possible to create semi-sine and sine waves. Would it be possible to use 26 SIDs to make a 1:1 C64 version?
@@ltva8781 Actually no: I wrote that comment some time ago and now I know that the SID can't do ring modulation with two triangles, just with a square (not pulse!) and a triangle.
@@ltva8781 that would be possible, but I doubt that you can create decent sine waves with 8 kHz ... and btw, it's possible to mix multiple channels into one 8-bit sample. You can probably create the best sine wave by just filtering a triangle or square wave.
@@pasromano75 Could be really hard on the Genesis! I worked on that machine and SINE waves is actually what its not good at... then again, I haven't worked on the Genesis long enough to work that out... nor did I have a need to for games. I think the only Genesis music I did was for NBA Hangtime... and maybe Pocahontas, but that job was done at Funcom by my friend Laxity... argh! Memories... ;-)
Actually, the Genesis IS good at sine waves, since its FM operators use that waveform. Did you know how one of its 8 algorithms could allow you to create a 4-oscillator additive sound?
@@JeroenTel it could be ^^... Is there a website where I could find your compositions' source files like on the modarchive (but there's not everything on it) ?
![Jeroen Tel - "Pools of Poison" (XM) [Oscilloscope View]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qG2WUbO_htA/mqdefault.jpg)
![Jeroen Tel - "Pools of Poison" (XM) [Oscilloscope View]](/img/tr.png)
At first I was like, "HOLY COW, HOW CAN THIS BE ON A SID", then realised what it was, then was like "HOLY COW, HOW CAN THIS BE ON A SINE"
he is using modified SID chip
@@uhsmpck Nope, no SID here - just pure software PCM mixing
Bruh
This would need like 9 SID’s
@@TheEssem because of the XM file?
XM is extended beyond MOD format. So it has more channels, more effects, more polypony etc...
I think this is the best I've ever heard from Jereon Tel outside of his C64 tunes
(bows)
@@JeroenTel Lol!
@@JeroenTel this is THE ONLY song which still stood on my phone clock alarm and didn`t get annoying (as it always was with others when it became morning alarms) :D Tomorrow i`ll wake up with it again! )))))) thanks!
Agreed. Great sound design, even if pretending it's not restricted to sines.
@@neocortexlab Problem with this music as an alarm clock is... I wanna go right back to dreamland... haha. ;)
Only sine waves? Those are sine drums? Holy shit, those have to be some of the most realistic sine drums I've heard.
There are also semisine waves, they sound like trumpets.
I wonder if all this could be made with OPL-3 chip (18 channels)? Sine/half-sine waveforms are in it. If removing echo effect, maybe it could be possible with OPL-2 too (9 channels)?
@@SLTe Could be possible, I might get my Pentium II running with Adlib Tracker but I don't know where it is...hmmm.
I think tim follin did something similar in Qix
@@SLTe Genesis could also be possible, if you use the special mode of channel 3. That gives you 9 sines and 3 squares.
Never underestimate the awesomeness that is Jeroen Tel
That's just... humbling...
h e
i s
g o d
@@pschiptunes64 I think you should see this video (and it will stick with you for the rest of your life, too)...
ruclips.net/video/R4e-t0kHUyY/видео.html
Enjoy! =D
@@JeroenTel I have looked up to you for years. Honest. It's a shame this art is obscure. Such wonderful pieces deserve to be heard.
I feel like the Sine and absolute sine wave are too underrated. That's one thing I love about this work. It uses those two wave-forms to make a great piece. And I thought that $11 Heaven was great.
Thank you!
i cant describe the peaceful feeling this conveys , its so crystal clear , like the body is more capable of understanding somehow
the song you hear flying to heaven...
jeroen is amazing.
Merci!
Electronic Gems needs to upload this STAT
This songs reminds me of winter for some reason
Winter is relaxing, whereas summer is chaotic and overwelming.
the "twinkly" vibe of sine "bells/mallets?" brings that festive flavour.
@@kociemleko1 That was exactly! what it was!
Jeroen you're a genius. I can't stop listening to this. How can you be so good at creating a song with a SINGLE WAVEFORM?
Understanding notes/harmony and how to manipulate soundwaves... that's the best explanation I can give...
@@Uglipeanutz Thanks! Btw: I like your RUclips name... memer... haha. \○/
Fourier would like a word :)
That is mesmerizing to both look at and listen to. Even better when experiencing both together. Great work.
I didn't know the second part :O It's gorgeous!
I loved every second of this
I just realized. This would probably look cool on a spectrum graph!
I love looking at the waveforms. It's very aesthetically and audibly pleasing.
Amazing how prolific Jeroen Tel is
(bows)
@@JeroenTel Master musician you are ... keep on being you!
@@Music-tg5is Thank you, man! =)
@@JeroenTel your music is so freaking awesome, I got a real commodore just to listen to your earlier works.
@@Sinistar1983 I guess you mean... works*
Really, really, really appreciated, man!
This is so nice and relaxing
This song shows real musical skill. If you have only a sine wave and create this out of it its really magic ;)
Beautiful ❤
Perfect.
Nuff said.
This one is amazing!!! Thanks for uploading..
That's sick! Jeroen Tel added some upside down semisine waves, Nice sequel!
so many waves dancing...
W-Wow.
Incredible.
most underrated video of all time.
:D
This guy be using sine waves? Literal talent.
Vengo de buscar la del rich!! Hermosa, por cierto..
Ola
@@dazuny4562 ola
Ola
cuando la usó?
This is it, Jeroen Tel is a genius
Thanks for thinking in that direction. haha. =D
@@JeroenTel Greetings!
i honestly dont know what to say for this, and i havent for the last year since i found it, its just too good
I remember firing up that keygen again already having a serial number just to hear that tune again ;)
Everybody gangsta until Jeroen Tel pulls out the sines.
This is so pure
literally
I always picture this being in an ice level in a video game.
Minecraft Aether mod music
@@fenn_fren I love Minecraft and spent years on it. Ik ❤
I'm pretty sure ElRichMC uses a song that is similar to this one on his videos, I'll find it!
So guys, we did it.
Spring Equinox by DesoloZ.
Finally we Did :D
¿Entonces está canción no la ha usado Rich?
@@saidtorres3 Nop, la canción que usa Rich es Spring Equinox por DesoloZ
sined waves
gotta love em
Just as fun to watch as to listen to
This kind of reminds me of the Casio MT-70, a sine wave keyboard
Tel always responding is awesome :D
hey jeroen i like this this is like a lofi amiga song
Sinewaves and SEMISINEWAVE
This module can be found inside the REELISM Gold .wad for Doom II, it's how I found out about this song 😃
Incredible... I didn't know that. :O :-)
Wow, just sine waves? Nice!😄
I knew this tune sounded like a ringtone, now I know why!
There he is!
Beautiful song
Thanks! =)
@@JeroenTel how'd u make ut (:
@@snoopdoggdankkush9285 within FastTracker2.08
(very old program by now). =)
@@JeroenTel U know how there's a couple vsts that lets u sample actual Genesis/megadrive game music file wavetable things. DO u know if there are any snes vsts like that?
@@JeroenTel will it run on a new mac?
beautiful
I love this guy
I believe there's this theory that you can make any wave just by combining sine waves together.
Pretty sure that isn't just a theory. It's mathematically proven. And this video is one of the coolest examples to show it.
You are right.
@@marinellovragovic1207 “Not just a theory”… That’s theory in the mathematic sense: a way of describing stuff. That’s what mathematical theories are - abstract ways to describe “stuff”. The mathematical proofs use various theories together to make a logical argument. The crux of Fourier’s idea was that orthogonal functions are basis vectors in the space of functions. Any function in a linear function space can be equivalently described using a linear combination of other, basis functions in that same space. The basis functions don’t have to be sines. They can be wavelets and a lot of other shapes, and dimensionalities too. The idea extends beyond functions, to function-like objects like higher order functions, and so on. It’s pretty useful (an understatement), and thanks to it we got jpeg and compressed video - that are all built on transforms that work just like the Fourier transform, just with different basis vectors and applying to slightly more specialized function spaces :) I’d say that if there is one thing a “lay person” should know about linear algebra is the concept of basis vectors and linear spaces. It comes up all the time in other disciplines that use math to describe stuff.
so fluffy so sweet :)
Jeroen genius
Wow tons of oscilloscopes
Sine Waves... =D
@JeroenTel What inspired you to make this beautiful track? Because good lord. i literally come back to this song of yours, just to be purely blessed through my ears. and the fact that you are only one year younger then my pops is crazy. i also LOVE your track on the C64: Myth.
You sir. are a ChipTune Legend... *bows* 🥵
I wonder if it was created after a tragedy or during a winter. So mixed feelings.
most atmospheric
Gran paso en la investigación
I didn't even know there is Part II.
ElRich estuvo aqui
Question: If these are all sine waves, then what's with the ones that look pointy?
Dono D. semisine
The instrument in the xm module actualy contains a full sine wave sample, but only loops for half the sample. So we get a semisine wave.
Inverting the sine wave from /\/ to \/
@@JeroenTel Oh, does that make any difference in the sound? I don't think it does, since inverting a song that way doesn't make it sound different... does it?
Skeleday inverting sound he same only if you invert the whole thing, or invert at frequencies above hearing, which is not what is happening here. Semisines sound kind of between triangle waves and sawtooth
Anyone know where i can find this kind of chill music?
came from DenianWriter
Just WoW
How can we call those only sine waves when I see some sinewaves that are pointy (akin to a triangle wave), possibly sounding like a really mild sawtooth wave?
UPDATE: I'm now realizing that those must be "half-sinewaves"?
Exactly. =)
@@JeroenTel I see. And I see that you just used the loop point trick inside the module file itself to do that. Pretty cool trick.
Sine waves only ? But what are those fin shaped waves in the beginning?
half-sine waves
@@pschiptunes64 what exactly is a half sine wave? A sine wave played at half the usual duration?
@@Sh-hg8kf it’s basically just a sine wave that has its bottom flipped, the YM3812 has them
@@Sh-hg8kf Yes. only the first half (or the sevond) played.
@@JeroenTel I see now. Thank you both for explaining!
Just wondered: Using ring modulation with two triangle waves, it's possible to create semi-sine and sine waves. Would it be possible to use 26 SIDs to make a 1:1 C64 version?
Yes, we can. But just easier would be to use 4 or so SIDs just 'cause and add 2 cool OPL3's
@@ltva8781 Actually no: I wrote that comment some time ago and now I know that the SID can't do ring modulation with two triangles, just with a square (not pulse!) and a triangle.
@@noobtracker then you can use 8 SID's and use 4-bit sample virtual channel along with 3 channels playing 8-bit samples
@@ltva8781 that would be possible, but I doubt that you can create decent sine waves with 8 kHz ... and btw, it's possible to mix multiple channels into one 8-bit sample. You can probably create the best sine wave by just filtering a triangle or square wave.
@@noobtracker but I can create only 1 cutoff frequency for every SID, so
How simple the music is compared to his C64 vitruosery
It took more effort to make this one, somehow, because the SID had all the tricks in the book! =D
I'd like to see this covered on the Genesis.
I Think it should sound close to this.....
@@pasromano75 Could be really hard on the Genesis! I worked on that machine and SINE waves is actually what its not good at... then again, I haven't worked on the Genesis long enough to work that out... nor did I have a need to for games. I think the only Genesis music I did was for NBA Hangtime... and maybe Pocahontas, but that job was done at Funcom by my friend Laxity... argh! Memories... ;-)
Jeroen , on the genesis you can import samples......... but Yes i dont know if you can add effects on it. Bye Jeroen!!
Probably wouldn't have enough channels.
9 channels on Sega Genesis (ch3 extended mode) and probably 26 channels on the original
Actually, the Genesis IS good at sine waves, since its FM operators use that waveform. Did you know how one of its 8 algorithms could allow you to create a 4-oscillator additive sound?
26 channels😳
What voices this SID C64 have??
26 Oscilloscopes
i mean 22
There are 26! The grid is 3×9, which has 27 areas for oscilloscopes to be put, but the bottom-right-most one is empty.
it's just a bunch of sine waves? what...
I think someone can remake that entire song with Yamaha YMF262 (OPL3).
missing a couple of channels but u cab force it in probably
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Even Hitler likes this song
Haha!
That's just too funny... XD
The one who will dislike this thing is not even born.
@@ad_sidera_virgines y
You mean, the anti-christ? =D
@@JeroenTel it could be ^^... Is there a website where I could find your compositions' source files like on the modarchive (but there's not everything on it) ?
ITS ALL SINE
but all waveforms are made of sinewaves....
DenianWriter
Is this opl3?
No, this isn’t FM, it’s created using sine wave PCM samples.
It's an xm module.
Also, this has more channels than an OPL3.
denianwriter
sonic vybz
y3th brought me here
This sounds INTENSELY French.