What Darth Sidious Thought Would Happen if the Galaxy Discovered he was a Sith Lord! (Legends)
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The Non-Canon Expert looks at what Darth Sidious thought would happen if the galaxy discovered he was a Sith Lord.
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I love how tarkin knows and doesn't care
Why should he he never really cared for the jedi or republic his ideals where basically on par with the sith plus he was not force sensitive so he was 0 threat to sidious.
Tarkin was a pragmatist
One of the imperials best qualities in my eyes they just wanted get the trains running on time
@@fivehandsmash780 lol if the sith create better infrastructure and economy they must be superior to the jedi
What you said is true from a certain point of view
“A SITH LORD???”
- Mace Windu
"West"
- Text How Big Teachers
"A SIMP LORD??"
@@willianbrayan where did that meme come from and I am getting annoyed of seeing it.
A WIDTH LORD?
@UCqWDI4Y3LQC0uvEqQwv1MFg But it's true, bro. YOU ARE A SIMP.
Honestly most people wouldn’t care. First they didn’t really know what a sith was, partly because they hadn’t been seen in a 1000 years, but also because most people just didn’t understand the Jedi. There are old legends novels that mention that a lot beings didn’t understand the difference between the Jedi and the sith, just saw them as both mystical force users. Then you take in account the grand animosity for the Jedi and how the many were happy the Jedi were eradicated at the end of the clone wars, many would just say cool the sith are the ones who helped wiped out the Jedi so they aren’t bad to us.
I remember the impression that the X-wing novels and others at that time gave me that the sith were treated like demons of yore and like sithspawn = hellspawn and what not
That's pretty true. The empire citizens thought the jedi were domestic terrorists and weird space wizards unless they had a direct experience with them. However it is mentioned in the Plageuis book (that is legends however) that the Sith were forgotten and known as basically evil, and demonc but nobody really knew why.
He couldn't afford to risk it though. The Rebel Alliance would have used his status against him by convincing more and more people and systems to turn their backs on the Empire and join them.
@@xinzlo6101even though its a part of the extended universe, if you look at kotor 2 mical(deciple) says "the jedi civil war' was called that because people didn't understand the difference between 'the jedi & sith' to them they're both Jedi with different philosophies. Also if you talk to one of the people there just off the landing ramp on nar shaddaa about it he says "thats 2 names for the same thing"
Maybe it's because he was one, just one of two Siths, who also persecuted Jedi and either turned them to the Empire or killed them, controlling an army of force users to guard people against the Jedi? This would make some people's opinion change to a more favorable for the Sith, and perhaps dismiss the old stories as Jedi propaganda, I do think that some people would at least wonder if two Sith, that were to their knowledge safe guarding the republic against the separatists, since one of them were in fact Palpatine, would really be as demonic as Jedi claimed, for all they knew Palpatine was idealist and perhaps the kind of person to believe himself to be a descendant of the Sith order, which might actually turned out to be a huge paradox, I believe people or the general public would simply not believe that Palpatine was a Sith lord and think of that in terms of eccentricity he always shown, so for people who weren't in a close relationship with him and in his circle, Palpatine was merely a person who believed himself to be a sith lord,in a sense he pretended to be one in his free time doing some silly wizardry because he was unfortunately old enough to get a little senile, of course this would work in Palpatine's favor because it would than make it seem that Jedi attacked him merely because he was just pretending to be Sith and they just tried to murder the Chancellor of the Republic for trying to explore the opposing side of an historical conflict, and this in turn would make people wonder and question did the Jedi perhaps lie about certain historical facts , because they were unfavorable to the Jedi order.
In short:
He didnt feel threatned by individuals wanting to hunt him down for being a Sith like Bane did and he thought that if the galaxy felt scared of him as a sith lord that would be great, so he didnt even try to hide it that much for those curious enough to do their research.
HOWEVER, he didnt want the average imperial citizen to know that he was a sith by revealing himself as one because the public feared the unknown even more than they feared him and they would compare him & the empire to the jedi & the republic, something he really didnt like and knew that would lead to a galactic-wide outrage hat was just too much trouble for him to deal with, much more so than some random assassins and rebels trying to take on him, so he'd rather not push that button.
We saw in Grand Moff Tratcha's rebellion (and that Gentis, in a sense) what might have happened if the Imperial Government, let alone the entire Galaxy, was made aware of Sidious' and Vader's Sith/Forceful identities. The resulting coup attempt by Tratcha and his fellow conspirators was foiled, but imagine half of the Galaxy arrayed against you because you are seen as one of those who betrayed the Republic and now betrayed the Empire. That would be a fascinating Infinities storyline.
Sidious followed the rule of 1.5
1.5 and some change. 🤣
All I can think of is 2.8 HD 😂😂
Darth Krayt, huh? Good choice
@@TSPH1992 Krayt was an interesting figure to say the least
So basically... Sidious is the kind of emperor who would openly admit that Epstein didn't kill himself.
Epstein did kill himself.
Sounds about right... just after his iconic evil laugh. Just before he shoots Force Lightning or drops a crimson Saber outta his sleeve again
Who is Epstein?
@@lamaahruloma4270 if you really dont know, he was a billionaire kiddy diddler who got put in prison. He was going to squeal and name names. He's partied with many rich and powerful people. He supposedly somehow hanged himself in his cell with some bedsheets. The way he died is HIGHLY suspicious considering the drop height, the thinnes of the sheets, and the fact that he wasnt suicidal and had had marks on him before his death. Also, the cameras coincedantally went out during his death, and all the guards were afk. Epstein dying is potentially one of the biggest cover up murders in recent history.
@@backtothefutureman1 how much did Clinton pay ya to say this
It's clear that Sideous had a genuine fondness for the Sith. It always surprised me that after order 66 he didn't attempt some revisionist history to vilify the Jedi and redeem the Sith in the eyes of the galaxy at large.
He did vilify the Jedi. After Mace Windu’s “betrayal,” the Jedi were labeled as treasonous, and this was the reason for Order 66.
I don't think he'd want to make the Sith seen as heroes since I think some people who still saw the Jedi as heroes or some Jedi would want to find out more, looking through sources that told the full story. But even if they did, Sidious would be one or a hundred steps ahead of them.
this goes pretty well in hand with the Royal Guard that Palpatine had. they existed to make him appear weak, that he needed them for his own protection, even if he could mop the floor with most challengers.
The sith were even less known about. I remember reading in books people thought darth maul was a Jedi. If palpatine held to his word the Jedi were believed extinct. If revealed they would believe he is a Jedi. That would be more problematic.
So Palpatine wasn’t worried that the public would revolt against a Sith per se, but against the idea of a mystical space wizard with incomprehensible powers controlling the strings of government. Because he’d spent decades amplifying this image of the Jedi.
Maybe he should of become an Space Televangelist and gotten people to support the Sith point of view.
"The Sith saved me, and I know they can save you too"
*smiles and stares in Joel Osteen*
Rule of 2 says no. Can you imagine how many wannabe apprentices that would create?
@@dsdy1205
Well yeah, but just like how they get around that with having the Ventress, Maul, and the Inquisitors by having them and "Diet Sith", string them along, then dispose of the schmucks once they have served their purpose.
Bane was a smart guy but one of my *biggest* pet peeves is when people cite him as holy gospel when it comes to basically anything that relates to the Sith.
Well I mean, he made then rules and everyone who loses breaks the rules. It makes sense.
@@myrpatroll Not really. There were different rules before, and after him.
@@maxxdahl6062 yeah but they all Lost the only folly in the rule of two was palpatines ego he should have found a weaker apprentice,
@@maxxdahl6062 palpatine: I've decided I trust you.
Vader: a horrible decision really
@@connermahaffey388 He should have kept Dooku around.
This is the one ive been waiting for Palpatine sounds like the kinda guy who has contigency plans for contingency plans for contingency plans.
What I would like to see is a What If "Palpatine was discovered as a Sith Lord during the middle of the Clone Wars" and found out he was leading both the Republic and CIS Secretly.
I love this video and all the history of Star Wars. and I love how "Star Wars Reading Club ends his video with " if not for me............then for Bane" (for example), his "if not for me" quote is fun to hear. keep up the good work.
This is definitely in my top 5 favorite monotone reading channels.
Honestly I feel it's kinda engaging
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Maybe Sidious should have considered a different approach to ruling if he damn well knew the galaxy's fear could backfire on him
This makes sense, it explains why in the EA Battlefront 2 story mission with Luke where he aided Del that people came to fear the Jedi, not just because of Sidious' propaganda but because some people feared Force-users were hard to relate to. If people learned Palpatine was a Force-user in general more people woulda turned on him because they know they were lied to.
I wonder how many clones would have executed Order 65 in legends and canon, excluding the inhibitor chips. I have a feeling there would have been a giant mess.
Order 65?
@@lawrencetalbot8346 In the event of either a majority in the Senate declaring the Chancellor/Supreme Commander to be unfit to issue orders, or the Security Council declaring him or her to be unfit to issue orders, and an authenticated order being received by the GAR, commanders shall be authorized to detain the Supreme Commander, with lethal force if necessary, and command of the GAR shall fall to the acting Chancellor until a successor is appointed or alternative authority identified as outlined in Section 6.
@Michael Terrell II I love the idea of inhibitor chips as it makes more sense as without them, the clones wouldn't have executed Order 66 including Rex and Cody.
Without that chip we SAW what the elite clones we know TRIED to either take Pong Krell in or execute 66 on their own when he went dark side an they confirmed it.. we'd be either looking at them tryin to do the same to HIM in mass like he thought. Or some kinda Clone Civil War
Idk how more people didn’t realize that Vader was a sith
They were basically legend. So we're the jedi. It's a big galaxy and most people never interacted with any force sensitive beeings that they knew of.
@@teknicalmage6370 The Jedi weren’t LEGEND at this point, but the Sith hadn’t been publicly seen for over a 1000 years (except maybe Tyrannus?)
Vader considerd as a military weapon, merely a second Grievous in the hand of the Empire.
Jedi suppressed knowledge of the Sith even existing after they originally disappeared from the public. It happened like a thousand years before the battle of yavin, the Jedi were the only folks with lightsabers and force powers anymore. The sith were originally from that sith species as well, so the galaxy may have had some confusion as to even what a sith was. Take your pick there's a million whys.
What eats at me is that Palpatine created some weird kind of imperial cult but it never seemed to take off further than where he left it. First Order, fine, but still I had other things in mind before those movies were made.
Can you make a video about the origin of the common technologies like Hyperdrives, Shields, Navi-computers, going back to when they were first made? I think they came from the Rakattan empire but can't remember entirely.
Ye. They did. Pretty much anything super sci fi in star wars was reverse engineeringed from Rakattan tech
@@teknicalmage6370 not to mention they loved superweapons that have since had many iterations
How come I’ve heard the Devonians did the same?
Palpatine was respected as being the savior of the republic from the corrupt traitors of the Jedi order and creating an empire to secure the future of the galaxy. That's why he didn't reveal his sith identity, he had no need to, even if the galaxy knew who he was it wouldn't have made any difference, no one could challenge his power, and when they did anyway that's why he made the death star, to keep the galaxy in line
His creating the Death Stars and trying to have unchallengeable power produced a mixed result for him, simply because this was not the same loving Chancellor Palpatine the galaxy had known thru the republic. This ruler that hated non humans and ruled by intimidation created mixed results with the weak fearing him and the strong becoming the rebellion that would destroy his Death Stars and everything else
One is forced to wonder how a mere politician,no matter how exceptionally skilled and relatable,was able to keep a Sith Lord in check.
People saw vadar use the force I guess since vadar would always bow the sidious people respected him for that? But the video of vadar killing youngkings was aniken not vadar so how would that work ? Average joe did not know aniken was vadar most empire people had no clue either ?
Enjoyed that thx guys 👍
I love these videos make me feel like a kid again
Great job! ☠️🏴
Ironic how he feared of being exposed as a Sith Lord ... yet he wrote books openly debating the matter xD
I'm sure that the Jedi order's habit of taking small Force-sensitive children (even infants) from their parents, didn't help matters any.
They never seem to go into detail as to just how the Order seemed to easily acquire so many of these children, but it makes sense that if the Jedi acquired some of them by buying the children as slaves (such as Anakin), then if wouldn't be too far of a stretch, to imagine that more than one of these children being "given" to the order, was the result of Jedi mind tricks used on the parents.
Hence the reason, why all Jedi Padawan-learners were strictly prohibited from contacting their birth parents (they probably weren't even allowed to know who and where their real families were).
This again?
Would you think having untrained, strong in the force , children, with powers capable of destruction and murder, and god help you if a Emotional Untrained Teenager has that sorta power without Jedi training to calm them the hell down.
Heck some parents even give the Jedi Order their children in order to get their children into a better sorta of life.
And no, Jedi did not use Jedi mind tricks on parents in most cases i'd assume, they would usually ask the birth parents for permission, though they did have legal authority to take them if they so choose.
@@ramarblood7697
While it may be true that someone born with "godlike powers" should be trained in how to properly use (and NOT use) their power, they should not be wrenched from their families and homes in order to do so.
And NO group should have the legal authority to yank a child from a loving home, simply because they see the child as a potentially very valuable asset.
And while it may be true that the old Jedi Order did a great deal of good for the galaxy, the fact remains that they were still a cult.
A classic cult strategy, is to deny their members access to the outside world; even to their own friends and families ("You don't need them anymore. WE are your family now. WE are the only friends that you need").
And that is what the Jedi did to the children whom they took into their Order.
Their parents were forbidden from visiting them at the temple (or vice-versa), or from having contact with them of any kind. Even as adults, Jedi were not allowed access to records about their birth families.
Padawans were taught from a young age, that romantic or familial love were bad things, and that the only ones whom they should allow themselves to have an emotional connection to, were their "brothers and sisters within the order".
And as for those who were either expelled from the Order, or failed the tests, or simply chose to leave it?...
Were they given contact information about their birth families, transportation back to them, and some sort of severance pay to live off of until they reached home?
Nope.
They were made to leave the Order with not much more than the robes on their backs, and no understanding of how to live in the real world.
If that doesn't say "cult" I don't know what does.
Galaxy: ah sith lord! ........ what's a sith?
You ever going to stream again? I miss playing battlefront 2 and chilling on your streams with you, but its been ages since ive catched one of those.
Hello there and can you do a video about Jaina Solo
Sidious didn't need to reveal his true identity because he was revered as the savoir of the galaxy who ended the clone wars by elimination of the Jedi order who caused it to begin with. He had no need to reveal his true calling, star systems rebelled against him anyway regardless of his dark side secrecy, that's why he built the death star to keep the galaxy in check with fear
Sidious controlled the entire galaxy through the dark side. The empire would fall if he fell. Vader is used to express fear while Sidious used Vader as a blade.
The galactic empire was controlled using the dark side and it feel because sidious fell.
Source: thrawn trilogy (directly stated)
Gary Zhu It was basically cut off from its energy feed when Vader killed him 🤣🤣
So what changed between Sidious' time as emperor during the Galactic Civil War and Dark Empire, where he wanted to eventually openly rule the galaxy through the dark side of the Force?
end goals vs getting there, palpatine saw basically the entire galaxy as potential distractions from his focus on growing in power, it's part of why he wanted the death star, so he could focus more on growing his power while that assumed the focal point of controlling through fear and being wide scale destructive back up for the empire instead of him, his end goal was always ultimate power and total control, though iirc in dark empire he hadn't fully regained full capability or reached the strongest peak it was feasibly possible for him to reach, but then also at that point subtle political control wasn't going to work anymore in a post civil war galaxy full of rebel propoganda about him anyway
So there we have it 😁
That sentiment of people viewing the Sith as akin to the Jedi reminds me of Atton's words about them both. He said that many people(or just him) viewed the two as just "people with too much power". Obviously that's not really correct since the Jedi do try to do good even if they misstep. Though it makes sense how someone far away from both orders would view them that way since a lot of the conflicts are a result of those two powers fighting each other.
I hadn’t noticed Palpatine’s near the red button in TOS when upon his throne.
Makes perfect sense to me.
And then Palpatine ignores his own advise when he comes back to life and decides to take over the universe.
he'd been outed at that point anyway, and a lot of the empires worst actions were all attributed to him personally in rebel and new republic propoganda, so his options were reduced
That's why he very rearly showed the true extend of his power. In Dark Empire he really didn't have a choice, the empire was falling appart and he was dying due to clones' decay. The fact he could tear fleats and planets appart via force storm in that comic, doesn't mean he couldn't do it earlier, it just means he didn't want to risk revealing his Sith Identity. The most important power for the emperor was his political power. That's the reason why the most powerfull sith ever chose to build massive fleats, superweapons etc, instead of destroying planets and star systems with his force powers like Nihilus or Vitiate.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
he might've hidden his Sith Lord identity, but everyone knew he was a sweet old man.
Darth Sidious was a dark lord of the sith...
Makes sense.
I want a what if storyline of If the Sith Empire of The Old Republic MMO got ISOT forward in time to the Clone Wars Era just before the First Battle of Geonosis.
fire at will commander
Or, the people might be able to put two and two together and figure out some version of what Palpatine had done to manipulate the government and bring down the Jedi
I heard that theory before, but it does not really convince me. First, by this time for almost everyone the term Sith would mean nothing. Just see how quickly in the Mandalorian series the Jedi are apparently forgotten by most already. And then, how many SAW a Jedi ever at all, let alone using some force ability? Most people had only heard of Jedi more like from a fairy tale. Finally, the Jedi had been seen as benevolent for what 20.000 years or so, at least for an immensely long time, and suddenly after a few years propaganda that would have all turned so much, that most would be happy they were gone, and Imperial Stormtroopers harassed them? Somehow I have a hard time to believe that.
There is just some stuff especially from the comics which doesn't convince me to fit with the movie canon.
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I don’t understand why Dooku told Obi-Wan that the Republic was under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith? Dooku blew Palpatine’s cover.
Obi- Wan didn’t believe him and he also didn’t know that Sidious and Palpatine were the same yet so technically Palpatine’s secret was still protected
I left a like for *Darth Bane*
Frankly, using propaganda, he could present the Force in a slightly different light.
Show that this mysterious energy does not just exist - but that it is put at the service of the Empire.
"We know that is this - and we know how better use it!"
It could also motivate force-sensitives to enter service in a variety of fields.
hello there
General Kanobie
You are a bold one
But I wanted to go to kentashi station to pick up some power converters!
@@ii-vadersfist-ii501st3 his uncle: Time to be an asshole and make him cleanup the droids
General Kenobi!
If anything he would of possibly gained more support considering how many were actually waiting for there return.
This is also how we know that sideous genuinely made a mistake and he was not baiting windu to attack him, as the entire footage would show sideous with a light saber and using wierd magic powers..
Make a video on mistakes sideous made 👍
Anything for Darth Bane
I mean, on the other hand a likely reaction from the masses would just be "...huh. so that's how he didn't die instantly when four Jedi Masters bust into his room. cool."
He was a more reserved man than I...I'd have been unable to resist electrocuting fuckers and shouting "Sith toast bitch!" In front of my subjects.
The entire galaxy already knew he was the Senate. So, it didn't matter if they discovered that he was Sith
Conspiracy therories. Palpatine a Sith
If not for meeeeee
Hello there
General Kenobi! You are a bold one!
You should be voicing a mon calamari. Not joking
What did he think the everyone would think when he lived for like 10,000 years or whatever? That no one would be suspicious?
" A sith lord ? "
Is this a fanfiction channel now? Or is there actual reference material, possibly to draw conclusions from.
If palpatine won in the rise of skywaiker he could have admit he was Darth sidious all a long
Darth Koopa is a dork.
You can’t he must stand trial
Well I bet those who supported the empire didn't Care if the emperor was a Sith lord because in their eyes Sidous didn't use the force and even if he did it was so rare and when the situation called for him to use the force.
To Hell with Darth Bane. All Hail Darth Revan
Palpatine should have outed Jar Jar Binks as a Sith lord
nobody:
me: Can I not see an essay in the comment section FOR 5 MINUTES!
what if the Galaxy during the Galactic Civil War era discovered that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker
This is what I think Star Wars Theory keeps getting wrong in his What If videos, a politician who was found to be a Force user would be seen as an enemy to many suggestion vulnerable species as it undermined the Galactic Senate's ability to hold just voting. If he was outed as a Sith, the view of Jedi would not improve, however legends of their wars and effects on worlds would drive people to immediately distrust any attempt by Palpatine to establish a new government if he possibly could prevent them from jamming his communications to command the clones. Further research and they may have been able to successfully remove, identify, or even weaponize the inhibitor chip orders!
(Order 65 is *particularly* interesting...
- - - Palpatine: "Execute Order Sixty-..." *kshhh static noises* Palpatine: "Damn comms are being jammed!" *sees a holoscreen open and deafening audio plays* Holoscreen: "Execute Order Sixty *Five* ..." *stares in shock* Palpatine: "Wait! That's not what I said!" *clones rush into chambers* Clone Commander Fox: "Order Sixty Five. By the Emperor's will, it will be done." *clones level blasters at him* Palpatine: "Oh shit..." *gratuitous laser fire* Clone Commander Fox: "Mission complete, good riddance...")
it not illegal to be a sith and so him being chancellor fine to everyone but the Jedi
This is Canon for me!
Mace windu disliked this
lol
literally half the comments here are essays
He could announce he is a sith and the galaxy probably won't know what he is talking about the jedi kept all knowledge of the sith secret they wouldn't know they were the enemy of the jedi
It’s true tho. With the Jedi dead or in hiding. If people found out Sidious was a Sith Lord. They probably would fear him only because of the sith’s history. Tho I am wondering. What about the Sith planet?. Dromond kass?. (Sorry I know I spelled the planet wrong). But my point on it being that the planet was loyal and built by the Sith empire. So I feel like they wouldn’t care if they knew the truth about Sidious and his old master. Because that planet was loyal to the Sith empire for billions of years and built be the sith.
I mean if people thought Jedi were a complete myth by imperial times
Then sith shouldn't even be something people were even aware of at that time
But I would think well if Vader is a Sith Lord Why would he let palpatine be in charge he could just kill him What’s stopping Vader from doing it I would think maybe Palpatine is also a Sith Lord And then that would make me think he must’ve been behind the war then
a Sith Lord?
I'm early :)
You mentioned machinations three times. You must be well read.
And yet ANOTHER reason why legends > canon
Second... oh well
People saw vadar use the force in and out of the empire so why care if they new about sidious using the force
A sith lord?
Lol they couldn't tell? They have sith written all over them🤣they look badass for starters
Did Sidious consider himself evil?
Probably but either way didn't care
no
he considered himself some kind of savour to the galaxy
While an interesting premise for a video it doesn't really seem to have been thought through all that thoroughly. If the galaxy at the start of episode 4 was barely familiar with or barely had any knowledge concerning Jedi who served the republic only 20 years prior, how could they possibly even know who or what a sith lord was considering that the sith were thought to have died out a thousand years ago? This isn't a slight agaisnt you or your efforts whatsoever, you're actually one of favorite SW youtubers, it's more of a another SW fallacy.
But sidious said in the movie once again the Sith will rule the galaxy so how didn't anyone know he and Vader was not Sith!!!!!!!!!
question frankly why would anyone know anything about the sith? i mean when you see an imperial star destroyer if you knew the sith you'd of said damn that looks like harrower! the most important ship in years of that era? i mean han solo didn't even believe in the jedi and that's less then 25 years in time from order 66 so why would someone know anything about the sith after at least 1000 years. we don't worry about hittites do we?
The sith were viewed as evil because of the Jedi? I guess, but it doesn't help that they LOOK LOKE MONSTERS
Bane was and is correct.
Nothing, the sith were extinct for over a millennium