Same. I had it bad in 3rd grade and when I got Adderall my grades went from 60's to 90's and now it's coming back because my GPA was better freshman year than sophomore year and now it is even worse I am in 11th grade and have all 70's and 2 0's cause I'm doing online school which is like impossible to get my homework done i can't go to regular school cause my mom is afraid of covid. Man these are rough times.
Same here. I feel like I forget what I'm supposed to be learning for my therapy course. Sure the ADHD I have can help in helping future patient, but me trying to learn concepts feels like running at a carrot attached to me.
I also have adhd I always thought it’s not important and it doesn’t mean anything then I learn more about it recently and realize how much it actually affects me
@@Amazistringsmusic oooo please.. I have ADHD and have made it just fine in life without medication.. I haven't had luck finding a long term good looking and classy woman... but 98% of men are the same.. Has fuck all to with my ADHD
When he says the best feeling he ever had was on Adderall going to the doctor, if you don’t have ADHD you probably will misunderstand. He’s not high. It’s just that normal people get dopamine for doing every day tasks they need to do. It helps influence motivation. So with ADHD doing every day things like going to the doctor becomes incredibly difficult because they don’t get that same dopamine. And when you’ve never experienced just going to the doctor and being content without this mountain of anxiety, it can feel like the best thing ever. His best feeling ever is most people’s every day life.
I got on meds this week and for the first time in years was able to sit through a class and pay attention, went to the kitchen to make myself some tea and realized i didnt have this constant chatter of unrelated thoughts one on top of the other. I could think clearly. Really peaceful. Started bawling my eyes out and called my dad :')
If Adderall gives you euphoria, it generally means you're high off of the dopamine rush. I have severe ADHD and I have no qualms admitting that you often get a small high when you're on Adderal. It wouldn't be addictive if you didn't. If the dosage is just right, the high is basically gone.
@@roms829 I had this experience too and also just got on meds this week. I genuinely didn’t feel any sort of particular head feeling or high, but rather it’s like everything quieted down and that wall between me and my emotions, and me and the things I wanted to do just disappeared. I wasn’t second guessing myself or over analyzing myself in conversations, I was just there, in the moment. The fact that I was able to experience these things I’ve never been able to experience, mixed with the fact that I was able to access my emotions without this layer of judgment and overthinking just made me start crying and I also called my mom and everybody close with me to tell them about it. People told me that it’s because of euphoria from a high that you get, but I started on a low dosage long acting pill that you take in the morning and I’ve smoked weed before and felt real euphoria and I can guarantee that it’s not the same feeling, it was just overwhelming relief and hope for myself I guess
"Your memory is not bad at all, it's your attention." This is one of most critical key points of my ADHD life I had to learn as an adult. Hearing "How did you forget? You were right there. Are you stupid?" often enough as a kid, I eventually believed my parents. "I must be dumb because I am indeed forgetting and smart people don't forget to hang up their towel after a shower, or do their laundry, or close the fridge/front door, or turn off a light when leaving the room", etc. I'm not an idiot, my brain just doesn't prioritize thoughts.
I'm really sorry for you. I've had the luck to have supportive parents (and friends) who realized my condition quickly and were patient when I had ADD moments. (It probably helped that my father also has it.) I couldn't imagine having to deal with the self-esteem blow from yourself ("how tf did I not realize this, I'm an idiot") and from those closest to you, also berating you for something you can't control. My heart goes out to you.
this also helps make sense of a phenomenon I recognized in my self where I used to think I have insane memory, but then started thinking I have shit memory.
YES!!! When Dr K mentioned one time in a video that it wasn't about memory recall issues, it was about attention issues bc it's that it's not going into our brain in the first place, that was huge to me. I thought I was super forgetful, and was getting worried about memory issues. Turns out it's not my memory, it's just that my brain isn't actually registering the thing happening in the first place bc it's focused on other things. Made me feel a lot less stupid. AND it helped me "remember" more: because now instead of focusing on memory retention, I'm focusing on being more cognizant of my actions and conversations. Completely different treatment for the same problem, and it's actually helping lol.
"even during that sentence you just said, I dazed out" Man, right away I'm feeling this. My friends always berate me for not remembering stuff or paying attention when they talk.
Me too mate happened last night as always someone talks to you you look at them but your brain is still ticking away thinking of other stuff without being able to stop it
@@skepticmoderate5790 Mizkif is awesome. He's a really genuine dude who's a lot like us gamers in a lot of ways. Hope you found the info you're looking for man. Peace be with you :D
Tactless Guy This is my first time even watching miz and I already can tell we have a lot of similarities (class clown, being kicked out, tangential thoughts, etc) same with all my ADD friends. The thing similar about all of us is that we had a point in time where we heavily despised our ADD so it’s very serious to us. It effects almost all aspects of your life and can make it much worse if you don’t find a way to control it or make it better in some way
I just wanted to add to this comment that he was alot more concise and put together than I could be in that situation ! I find his ability to visualise something profoundly to be almost like magic... I recently within the last year acknowledged that words are completely useless when it comes to feelings, as feelings are almost infinite and describing them with language falls short... I feel like people who are able to visualise in this way have adapted their brains so that they do not compromise thought for language... I think thoughts in language, and I believe this is a limit not an advantage ! I say all this to say, Mizkif should appreciate that facsite of his life, and his ability to do that is very rare and special.
If a friend or romantic partner told me, "What you're saying sounds really important. Can we go somewhere that I can concentrate better on it?" I would LOVE them, especially if they were like "concentrate on it, and you" my heart would BURST.
My parents did tell me but they always tried to hide it and I remember my dad insisting that I don't get any "special treatment" so I don't get "used to it" or "depend on it". They did take me to therapy but I don't think they ever understood what it was exactly beyond the surface stuff and I'm now REALLY getting to know what this is all about despite knowing my diagnosis.
I'm 30 years old and I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 10. This is the most I have learned about ADHD in my entire life. I am simply floored by Doc's ability to rapidly spit truth.
I hope to be as effective of a doctor as Dr. K someday. I've had problems throughout my life that were not serious but rather irritating and still distracting that no doctor was able to help effectively with.
I'm a grandmother, and I would have given anything to have this resource when I was younger. I think you're doing fantastic things Dr. K. I heard you speak about an app on a few occasions and I think it would be a good addition to what healthygamer is doing. I'll continue watching you grow.
Small observation that I might just be projecting onto Dr. K: when Mitkif left the room to grab a piece of paper, Dr. k said to his chat how difficult it would be to keep Mitzkif's focus because Dr. k likes to talk a lot as an academic... Then he made a subtle face which to me indicated that he suddenly remembered Mitzkif was still wearing his headphones when he left. As his eyes were darting back and forth, he said an encouraging comment addressed (indirectly) to Mitzkif (who was still out of the room) , not his own twitch chat, so that Mitzkif wouldn't get discouraged. Of course, Mitzkif asked about it when he came back. If that's what happened, that was brilliant quick thinking on Dr. k's part not to undermine his own intentions before they even began.
I'm also convinced that he did it the second time Mizkif left (about the crayon) in order to make him think that it was intentional the first time (even though it wasn't), as if to say that it was okay for him to have heard that (and by extension that he meant no harm with it).
I was thinking that when he kept saying he couldn't find paper and pencil. I could absolutely imagine myself chiding about him to chat how "He's so smart, if he only he could focus", then he reveals he was still wearing his headphones. >o
Mizkif's fixation with "staring at his keyboard" is apparently a common thing. I have ADHD (31 years old) and I have a habit of playing Brickbreaker in my mind, no matter where I am. If people are giving me stressful information (financial stuff, academic, doctor's appointments), my mind throws a puck along the wall and it bounces from object to object, ricocheting like the "DVD" meme. Bookshelves and tables and door frames are all objects that redirect it. My therapist told me it's probably an attempt to compartmentalize the information I was intaking.
@@rahulmathilakath2977 I think of “lasers” coming off of the corners of things and thinking about how they connect with one another As a kid I’d try avoiding stepping where the “laser” on the ground would be
omg, i imagine that i’m shearing sheep for some reason!! there’s also a constant game of solitaire going on in class haha. i think the repetitive mindless action is calming
Fellow ADHD here, seeing him running around in his house looking for stuff while also having different kind of socks on somehow makes me happy. I love the streams of Dr. K, nearly watched all of em in the last couple of weeks
The most uncanny part of this is listening to Mizkif talk and noticing that he speaks nearly the same way I do when I've been off my meds for more than a day or so. Much love and sympathy. So glad the algorithm pointed me towards this channel haha
Seeing Mizkif smile when Dr.K smiles because he understands despite not being able to articulate his thought into words, that feeling right there. Man. As a fellow person with ADD, hearing a teacher give praise instead of insulting because I don't know how to put something into words. That's an amazing feeling. Very wonderful and helpful video
The opposite is also true, you gave the right answer technically but because the teacher didn't understand you he chose someone else to give the same answer that was in your head while he looks at you in a scolding way. Honestly, if most of my teachers became bums I would not give them a tip.
When he said "confidence is less ADHD intensive, and ego is fueling the fire" it made all the sense in the world to me. And this guy with ADHD found that out by himself.
I really like how Dr. K adapted his teaching style with engaging imagery and questions to keep him invested as Miz said that writing and drawing helps him concentrate. I've had teachers get furious with me for drawing to concentrate (one so as far to throw my papers at me) because they thought I was disrespecting them for not looking at them when I was listening. I appreciate Dr. K for explaining the "elemental minds" because I feel like far too many teachers think everyone should function the same way when it's simply not possible for everyone, so they end up feeling stupid or like failures because they cannot adapt to the way everyone else seems to be.
that reminds me when I need to concentrate in something i need to keep my hands busy with something else (like a pen to click) to go back to when my mind starts to wander off, then go back to the subject I must focus on
I feel bad for him and whatever teachers he had, just kicking some kid out of the class for being distracted without understanding why they do something repeatedly is sad
I was waiting for the moment this timestamp from you came up to see what you were talking about (because I wanted to make sure I got the lead up), and it made me legitimately cry too. For me, it was a little after when he was explaining to Mizkif his strengths in his mind, that he learns extremely fast, and presents it as praise.
@@851995STARGATE The way that society is set up, and especially the school system, things are geared towards one type of mind (he talked about this in his interview with Michael Reeves) and when the student does not have the type of mind, it is perceived as disobedient and a problem instead of a cry for help for people to understand them. My sister has ADHD also and became a teacher so she is trying to help her students and other teachers to understand that understanding the students' minds is essential
Man the world works in mysterious ways, I got diagnosed with ADD yesterday at 20 and here you are putting out a video talking to someone with ADD. I dont think there's anyone out there who I respect more than you Dr. K. Godspeed
@@MrMango331 not tremendously. ADHD just implies a level of hyperactivity not generally present in ADD but the underlying chemical imbalance, inability to focus and general wind mindedness is consistent between the two. I will agree tho I didnt relate with everything but most things I saw in myself and were really helpful. Most of the time the two are interchangeable
@@MrMango331 Both conditions are in medical terms called ADHD since a few years. There are in fact three "presentations" of ADHD that has been officially recognised since 2016. If you have one you can also have the others. So if you have ADD, like myself, ADHD is perfectly fine to say and even more correct.
Timestamps for me 29:50 Dedicate an amount of time every day attending to one thing 32:10 accepting you suck at some things other people find easy 35:39 Use certain techniques like writing to slow down your mind 40:37 Juggle many things so your brain can jump to the next thing when you're bored 52:33 Become more confident or become more tolerant of feeling stupid 1:10:03 "maturity" 1:11:00 Control the influences that naturally engage your attention for an extended period 1:15:09 Diet 1:24:04 meditation
then soemtimes hyperfocused as shit liek how we sometimes do something for liek idk 10 hours straight but then sometimes we dont know wot to do and how to do le simplest tasks. its liek a pc with 2 gb of ram with 7000 tabs open
@@tristantheoofer2 my friend I’m not sure what you did to auto correct to make it seem to always leave like as liek, but your autocorrect might need to see doctor k
at about 14 min i realized one thing which is amazing, not sure if he himself notices but he is raising his voice at times, I myself have ADHD and i have a hard time focusing but him raising his voice lowkey wakes my mind up, what a great human dr.k is, so intelligent and so kind
I.... I started crying with all that conversation about making your mind work in 4 taks at a time instead of forcing it to work in a way that it doesn't want to. I've had the exact same experience as Dr. K with "achieving less if I try to make things easier". When he then started to talk about creating a life where I can do 7 things and succeed in all of them... it gave me *so much hope* . I knew I was capable of that but I gaslighted myself into thinking I had to focus my attention into less things. It was the opposite. Thank you for this video, I really *really* needed this (and I wanted to go to therapy for my adhd but it's complicated for my current situation so it currently isn't an option so yeah, this sent me into the right direction for the time being)
I loved it when @Mizkif said "sorry I zoned out" at around 35:00. That is where I fail in my ADHD, I zone out frequently but I should voice it and tell people. that bit inspired me and I hope to be like that now.
Dr K attributing ADHD to Wind really surprised me because when I try to notice how I think, it feels like a hurricane of random thoughts and ideas just violently blowing around but somewhere in there is the calm eye of the storm. But unfortunately, it's always moving around so I never get to keep that hyper focus for long which makes me agitated and anxious.
I have ADHD and I try to watch these videos because I find them interesting, so what I have to do is watch about 15-20 minutes at a time and come back an hour or two later to be able to retain all the things they are saying. If anyone here has adhd its a very useful thing to do!
In school I would draw during lectures, because it helped me focus on what the teacher was saying. My teachers absolutely hated it. I get now that they just weren't taught that it actually helps some kids particularly with adhd. One day a teachers assistant (the actual teacher was always on video call for this specific class) told me I was being disrespectful, and to look at the teacher. I told her if I did that, I might as well not be there at all, and went back to drawing. She GRABS MY HAND, and tries to force the pencil out of it. I come across VERY docile and chill, but I go 0-100 the exact instant someone invades my personal space without permission. I stood in her face and cussed her out for touching me. The rest of the class was stunned silent. She tearfully sent me to the principal, who did nothing because obviously, you don't touch a student like that. I continued drawing in every class, and she barely ever looked at me again. Do what you need to do folks. If your not hurting anyone, it's not your job to make other people comfortable.
I can relate to this. I doodled during lectures, which slowed things down enough that I could memorize the lecture word for word instead of just the major points. I also started reading books during lectures and had teachers get angry at me, but usually give up trying to stop me when I could reproduce important parts of their lectures complete with an imitation of their voice and inflections.
@@jkishhabi OH that's actually an interesting one. I can only "mix mediums" with my adhd. I can focus on words and art, or classical music with words, art with lyrical music etc... Focusing on reading while someone's talking, and understanding both, sounds kind of impressive tbh. Most of my notes were shorthand and pictographs, coz even trying to keep up with what the teacher was saying, while I was writing down different words, was difficult. And don't even get me started on "showing my work" in math 😒 the amount of times I was accused of cheating for just doing it in my head. Such a dumb concept lol
Thanks for this Cixtrist. Turns out I, too, have ADHD but it wasn't "discovered" for four decades. And my response to such arrogant control on the part of "teachers" has always been anger. Kinda always had the Sherlock Holmes view of normies, "what goes on in those little minds of yours?" Should probably say here, I'm well educated in psychology and always "did my own work" regarding the hard work of internal growth. Just saying what goes on in my mind and I am pleased to see another person with a different operating system having what I consider an appropriate reaction to the bullshittery of "authorities" whose desire is to crush others to maintain their authority and are demonstrably uninterested/not curious/don't care about actual learning or teaching.
I have ADHD. It's freaking insane how at 18:00 onwards I came to the same conclusion as Mizkif going 'hmm so a mature person would probably be water'. Just to find out a minute later that that conclusion was impressive to make. Felt the exact same way as he did when you smiled at him too
That part literally just summed up my life. When I was younger I just figured stuff out and absorbed information easily, but I couldn't study for shit. I basically just faked my way through school to the point where teachers thought I was gifted at first but ended up with barely a passing grade by graduation. Now I have a really hard time learning anything because my brain is so full of stuff it just can't focus on anything and feels like it's drowning (which I don't think is what he means by water but that's my feeling)
@@Ailieorz Yo I got basically the exact same story as you! I was even in the advanced classes for some portion of middle school before falling out of them. Now I'm taking online classes in college and I have maybe four assignments done and the semester is almost over. Have you watched the video on gifted kids? I literally came straight from that video onto this one.
I was a smart, small kid who had some pretty advanced vocab for a 2nd grader, and now I'm doing just a couple college classes a semester because that's the most I could reasonably handle since my attention and energy gets so incredibly spent just doing those assignments. It consumes so much of my time just trying to force myself to complete the assigned reading and then do the assignment, it makes me want to procrastinate even harder as the work gets harder and more advanced.
@@foodfrogs6052 I just did the same thing. From gifted child video. I was that child who was "gifted" in middle school, but then dropped all but one of the advanced classes. I am now a year after dropping out of University and then dropping out of online college classes because several semesters in a row, I did the first few weeks of homework, and then fell behind for the rest of the semester. I was officially diagnosed with ADHD in Feb 2021. I've been chaotically holding onto a job since, as I learn about ADHD and how it's affected my whole life.
Same thing for me, I didnt pay attention in secondary school (I'm in uk) where I just fluked my grades. Teachers and my parents didnt consider I had ADHD at all. I went to college (where u get grades to go to university/college for Americans) and I failed so bad as everything was so much more complicated and I struggled with studying and concentrating.
I’ve suffered from the negative aspects of ADHD my whole life and laughed when he mentioned the supermarket. Taking twice as long shopping is a less-referenced (and more trivial) yet integral part of the condition for me and people I know who have the same vata mind. It’s like an inside joke between millions of people. But then he talked about not being present and experiencing the actual life going on around him, and I couldn’t help but shed a few tears. The deepest-cutting part of being who I am and living in the time I am is always having the thought that my lack of focus has taken away the experiences that make life worthwhile and that I’ll never be who I’m meant to be. I appreciate you two talking through it and helping me think through it. More introspection to come...
I hear you buddy. Supermarkets are the bane of my existence. This might sound corny/cliche, but really think about it... have you tried not forcing to fit in everywhere and be like everyone else? Like most of society? Sometimes being yourself means cutting off things/friends/family or even routines. Maybe it's time to change it up?
I'm always struggling with letters and forms. It takes me weeks to respond and hours to fill out the spaces. I always lose track of deadlines until I have only a hour left. And yes, the supermarket. Too many things to choose from.
Probably explains why i put headphones on and stare at something in my cart to get in and get oit as quickly as possible, i hate being in grocery stores
This was an amazing session. Mizkif got teary-eyed at the end, I think, because Dr K called for a round of applause for him which, as Miz explained, is something he hasn’t been used to from a teacher
"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid." If your ADHD is a constant worry, you are forcing yourself to attempt to work in the wrong environment. You need to find work that suites your abilities. i.e. an ADHD mind is not going to excel in a 9-5 desk job with no stimulation, however you will most likely be an unbelievable emergency responder. Accept you cannot change, embrace and focus on your abilities and don't spend all your energy on trying to improve things that you may not be able too . . .
For me i have the exact oppisite i have a hard time finding motivation to do basic things like dishes showering and washing my clothes but when there is to much stimulibi start to get nervous ptsd may also play a factor as i grew up stuck in the middle between fighting families and family members so there was rarely a point where something was not going on in the house.
Watching this video, or even reading the comments, is like being hit with a mind bomb after mind bomb that just... switches on the light in a very dark room that holds aaalll the explanations for the things I often struggle with in life. Since as far as I can remember, 2 of my greatest fears were being put in a straight jacket (not being able to move) and being stuck in a 9-5 office job. I'm 30 now and it's taken me far too long to understand my "conditions". Carrying notepads and having whiteboards, setting alarms and reminders helps me to keep track of things. Can you tell me a bit more about why you think an emergency responder would be very suitable? I have my theory but I dont want to influence what you might say.
I was terrible at school. But in college I was on the board of many organizations and planned multiple events at once the entire time I was in school. My grades sucked but my resume was impecable. My job now is event planning. With so many things going on at once my brain switches almost naturally. I also plan details that would otherwise go unnoticed because of random thoughts that occur. Like maybe we should only have 1 trash can on this side of the room because we will have too much traffic. Or that light bulb is going to be shining right in someone’s ey in the back, let’s move it to the left a little. My coworkers always ask how I can think of every detail. The truth is, I don’t. I just think of so many it seems like it is a lot for others. It’s not perfect, sometimes I overcomplicate things and other times I may micromanage. But I’m effective at what I do and I learned to use my disorder to my advantage. Also I went to school for business law. My gpa was so bad I left in order to work for a nonprofit where someone was kind enough to intern to see what I could do and that changed my life.
You are a discovery of the year for me, Dr. K. I have a lot of problems in my life that are relating to mental health, like ADHD. I realised that a year ago but I didn't know what to do with these problems, also i have no money to get qualified help from people like you because i'm just a student from shitty country. But now I want to say thanks, because you changed my life and helped to understand myself. I started to feel better and now I don't think anymore that I'm abnormal. Thank you so much. I hope one day I will thank you in more important way. Sorry for my grammar, I learned english from reckful stream, lol.
@@YourMomIsSoFat100 for a long time, it was my only source of audio information in English. But of course, I used google to find language rules and texts. Thank you for the compliment!
I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and when I saw this video I realized that I have not related to anything more in my entire life. I feel like I have neglected a huge part of myself all my life, thinking that I'm stupid and not enough, and when Mizkif speaks about him having 20 different thoughts in his head and always spacing out, I can do nothing else than cry. I am so relieved that i finally know what has been troubling me and that I am not alone, but every day is such a struggle and I'm so tired of always being spaced out and being so damn hyperactive. I just want to calm down sometimes and be able to sleep safe and sound, just for one night. Thank you HealthyGamerGG. Thank you for spreading awareness about disorders such as and similar to this. And thank you Mizkif for opening up about ADHD.
When I was little I was diagnosed with adhd and I was basically treated like a puppy I was given a special desk that had walls to not distract other children and there was snacks that was given to me every time I did something good (I didn't get them often) and I was given ridillen and it kind of changed me for the worse because it slowed me down I stopped being happy..I hate that my parents felt that this was a cancer
@@anshi5098 I am doing fine. I'm married now to the only person that will truly accept me for my wacky moments the dumb moments the sad moments and she likes to be wacky with me. I don't like not being around her because of how awkward I feel in social interactions. I work in the automotive industry making almost $20 an hour (25 in 4 years ) and opportunity to move up and it's a plus my coworkers accept my wild behavior as well. I just wish that parents in the 90s had better tolerance of children that required a different way of teaching them
@@pallydrive1 Thats amazing! I wish you a long and happy married life. Im happy that you've found a soulmate and coworkers that accept you. Recently I've noticed that my brother has all of the symptoms for ADHD in a child. I brought it up to my mom and she ignored me. Plus, getting him to therapy and me as well as I have anxiety issues is very difficult in my country because the covid restrictions havent been fully lifted.
Thats really messed up brother. The one thing my mother always made sure to do was NEVER tell the school because they think they know how to handle it and simply dont. Seeing how the school treats adhd kids as cancers to the classroom is the reason I would never tell anyone if my kid had ADHD
I am 25 years old, and have had regular visits with my psychiatrist with regards to my ADHD since I was 6 years old. This is, without question, the most descriptive and enlightening content about ADD/ADHD I have seen in my life so far. The readiness to reframe the idea of this "disorder" is perfect, it is something I and others around me have tried to do before but failed to have the words for it. I tend to think of myself as a person with a reasonably good understanding of myself from a 3rd person view in terms of strength and weakness, but this really gave me a new way to talk about (and thus understand) the type of mind I have. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
My ADHD and school has been interesting. I also had ODD so everyone told me I couldn't, so I did. I found online classes worked best for me because I could have the freedom to learn MY way rather than being forced to learn how everyone else learned. I am finishing a masters degree in clinical mental health counseling currently. So we CAN do it, we just have to find our own way of doing things, a way that works for us.
ADHD is like having a small RAM size but an infinite and permanent hard disk size. Once it hits disk, it sticks. The difference is that the RAM is clearing at a higher frequency than most other minds.
I was diagnosed with ADD about 2 weeks ago as a 29 year old. This conversation related to me in such a powerful way I almost teared up. I relate so hard with the “stupid” feeling Mizkif talks about, it was almost scary. Such wonderful information and beyond helpful to learn about. Thank you both for this talk, I hope it helps other people the way it helped me :)
I was also diagnosed relatively recently, and so much clicked. I felt terrible because I thought I was some socially inept weirdo and told my psychiatrist "It's like I just say stuff from left-field all the time". So much self-loathing comes from it, feeling like you don't try hard enough or that you're a failure. It's so tough, especially when you feel lost like the enemy you're fighting is invisible. Having a diagnosis helps so much.
I just gotta say that Dr. K's sort of Socratic teaching method here really helps keep people like Mizkif (and like me since i have ADHD too) engaged and focused on the topic at hand. It truly was interesting to watch them interact and learn from one another.
This video has been a revelation for me. I've never heard anyone or seen any kind of hint that anyone else had the same kind of thought process that I do, even though I know it can't be a thing unique to me. When Mizkif drew the overlapping squares I immediately had a "wtf" moment, because for as long as I can remember I always considered myself to be detached from everyone around me. I always pictured it as if everyone else was the Olympics logo, with it's interconnected rings, and I was another 6th ring not attached to the others. The fact that his square drawing was so similar in concept to that was mind blowing to me
He is so good on making things clear and helping people out. I would like to hear him talk with someone having Social Anxiety. That is more relatable to me, so I hope to learn more about that.
When Dr.K was complimenting Miz was so cute because you can see that he feels good when someone says nice things to him rather than people calling him stupid
This was so beautiful to watch. I don't know Mizkif, never heard of him before, but man it was so satisfying to see him realizing things and making brilliant connections and creating metaphors that honestly I don't think he realizes "normal" people wouldn't make. Also he's incredibly self aware, I mean I just watched the one with xqc and I was amazed at how logical he was, but at the same time how feelings wasn't a language he was versed in (for the record I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just that I'm the exact opposite and it never occurred to me people who weren't aware of their feelings to that extent existed). So this was fascinating and delightful to watch, I've taught before in my life and honestly I just wanted to give this guy all the gold stars, grab his notebook and write an extensive "your kid had an outstanding performance today".
This channel, these videos. Have legitimately helped me change my life for the better. It helps me recognize why I introduce the negative habits I have into my life and realize I'm not a monster. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. And I hope one day I can thank you in person, or chat.
Hearing the part at 45:00 about segmenting time with your girlfriend made my heart sing, because it’s what I’ve learned to do to ensure that my girlfriend doesn’t feel like I’m ignoring her while ensuring I stay present. It felt really redeeming to hear someone else talk about it
Dude he got so excited when he made the correlation for 26 year olds having a water mind, my life would be 100 percent on track if i had one person that got that excited when i made a connection between ideas and concepts.
Watching this as an adult with late diagnosed ADHD and mom of a boy with ADHD, I just keep shaking my head and thinking “oh honey… I know it’s so hard, and you are doing your best, and just-can I give you a hug?”
It was out of place at first then I realised immediately where he was going with it in regards to the gut microbiome etc but that’s rat study had me trippin’
And then he says when they transplanted a rat crap into another rat, and that made it depressed....yeah I'd be depressed if someone did that with me 😂😂😂
I have ADD and I loved the part where you complimented him! Not sure if you did that on purpose because you know that people with ADHD often feel very underappreciated, but it was sooo good. I felt the compliment by proxy because I really empathize with Mizkif and his mind, similar to mine!!
Oh my God, this Helps me Immensely in my personal and professional life. I'm 34 and an MD and every time I succeded in life is because I was juggling so many things at the same time. and vice versa, every time I focus on one thing - one exam, one certification - I failed miserably ... Thank you so much for this enlightening episode !!
I'm blown away by how much I can relate to this. I've wondered for some years now whether I have ADD or something similar, but after watching this I'm certain that I at least have a "wind mind". Dr. K told us about his friend who suggested that he needed to have many things to do, and rotate through them to keep his mind from being bored. I feel that I do the same thing - I'll go from working on a coding project, to playing a game, to reading up on a subject, back to coding, and so on. If I am not doing something almost every second of the day I can easily start feeling down. I also find that its hard to keep my mind from wondering. I can be listening to a person talk, and even if its someone I really respect and want to listen to, I still find that I end up daydreaming or wondering about something in the middle of them talking. This gets especially difficult for me in certain situations, for example if I am at the store with my girlfriend I find it difficult to focus on our conversation. One positive I have found however is that sometimes I can enter a flow state when working on something that I enjoy. I work as a software engineer, and I've found that on days where I don't get interrupted I can blank out everything else around me and enter flow if I'm working on something that interests me. Thanks for taking the time to do this Dr. K, I feel like I learn more about myself from every video I watch.
I'm in a similar boat, where I'm basically constantly alt-tabbing on digital-related interests -- which also includes programming! I'm very conflicted about Dr. K's advice because on the one hand it sounds like "My brain is built this way, so operate in that environment", and then on the other hand it sounds like "Don't feed that brain, it will get worse" -- and I don't know how to reconcile it. I also had a similar experience with college, and it's why I'm taking 2 programming classes at a time instead of 4 or 5 because I feel like I can manage that more easily. I'm really trying to understand it and figure out how I can approach my life. I think you might have some really useful insights, Ross.
This interview has turned out to be incredibly useful for me. I have severe ADD when I watch these I always have to rewind back to get as much information as I can, This is genuinely making me feel better about myself.
Really appreciate him being so open and honest. It's such a double edged sword, having a certain brilliance and self awareness of having an abstract thought process, but it gets in the way of so many basic things people take for granted. I can craft complex and layered music with tons of intersecting complementary lines happening simultaneously, but I can't bring myself to do dishes or laundry for weeks, sometimes months. The more disordered my environment gets, the more overwhelmed I get by the mere thought of addressing it, thus it only gets worse. It's easier to sink into a form of chaos (in my case composing and producing music) that I have full awareness of and control over than to address the out of control environment of my own haphazard doing.
My gosh I'm so glad that this video showed up in my recommended. I needed it so much. I relate to Mizkif in so many ways and I finally see where I was going wrong and how I've been fertilizing my own ADHD. I've been trying to get this document for work done for the longest time and I keep pushing the deadline and feeling shitty for disappointing my client. Now I see that I was trying to be water or fire when I'm air. Every day I sit at my desk and look at the document and try to force myself to focus only on that when I should have been juggling all of the other tasks that I put off to do that. I was so afraid that if I tried to do the more creative tasks that it would be too much fun and I'd hyperfocus and never get the boring document done. Maybe if I'd toggled more then I'd have finished weeks ago. Even now I took a break from the document to watch this video and more than half way through I felt my attention drift and that pressure in my skull that I get when I try too hard to focus on stuff my mind doesnt want to. So I went back to the document and instead of getting that pressure feeling, I was free to actually type stuff in for a bit without getting frustrated. I need to lean into being wind more and stop trying to force myself into fitting some idea of how I'm suppose to be productive. I used to think that switching was procrastinating but it's really just shifting gears. Thank you for this discussion. It meant a lot and seeing myself in Mizkif (despite never seeing him before now) really changed my perspective of myself and how much I kind of talk down on myself for not living up to some standard that wasn't meant for me.
Nah ,Mizfik says in the first minute itself he turned off chat and was going to pretend it was just a face to face with Dr.K. Chat would have set his ass on fire.
I also failed most of my classes in my first semester of college. Then when I only did 2 classes, I did even worse and dropped out just like Dr.K. I suspect that I've been cultivating a wind mind by watching RUclips and playing video games making me have a short attention span when it comes to work. It's really hard for me to figure out how to be more productive, but at least I think I'm on the right track :(
I pretty much just failed out of college after like 6 years of very slow and frustrating progress. Hearing him describe the solution for our type of mind made me burst into tears. I don't know what I'm going to do, but the 'juggling' technique he talked about seems very promising.
@@senaesul3128 damn I'm pretty close to failing college. It's terrifying but I kind of don't care, just worried about what happens after. Maybe I'll have to try that juggling thing again too. I did best in life when an even mix of cerebral and physical things to do from sun up to sun down. So I think it works. I took this semester to slow down and fix my grades and I'm damn near dropping out so maybe I need more stuff to do 😅
Goddamn is this relatable, it felt like watching myself. The frustration of knowing you understand something but your brain is just outputting so much noise you can't put anything into words and you just end up sounding stupid. I can't tell you how many things not being able to focus your attention affects, can't speak without sounding stupid, can't keep anything in short term memory because your mind was wandering, seem clumsy because you're just not present enough to realize what's around you. It really fucks with you. This was super helpful.
This is great. I have said for years "I think on paper." I was lucky enough to know artists who told my way of thinking was a "form of genuis." I believe that, but it's also an obstacle. Here was an example of another such human. I admire Mizkaf so much. Just a note about structuring my environment to improve my focus: I used to train horses (in addition to my fulltime writer job). They put blinders on some race horses to keep their focus through a two-minute race. It ain't no shame to invest in human blinders.
acknowledging that there were two different types of "idiot" that he was talking about was really well done. the first thing my mind jumped to when he said he loves being an idiot at around 53:00 was that he said he hated feeling like an idiot earlier, and it was great seeing you separate and describe those two things instead of saying "but you said you hated being an idiot..?" like i was thinking
As someone who is diagnosed with ADHD, most if not everything Mizkif had said is 100% relatable. From his low-self esteem and confidence regarding how he feels like he is/getting stupid(er) to thinking he has low memory/ having 100 other thoughts mid-conversation is on spot along with simple tasks like calling people being overbearing,. Regarding Dr. K, I'm in the same situation as he was in College. I'm in my 2nd year, dropped a lot of my courses thinking that I'd get a higher GPA only to have an opposite effect - definitely, my psychiatrist has even suggested the same idea to me about just saying 'fuck it' and going all out and start juggling a lot of work. I also feel better when Dr. K points out the genius side of ADHD like being able to learn things faster and recall information at lightspeed - that's definitely an observation I've noticed myself but again I've always thought it was a memory issue when I completely missed the fact that it's ADHD = Attention Deficit. Meanwhile, I've also noticed that like Mizkif, I just took in the majority of the information of this video and internalized as I subconsciously just stared at an object and in a way meditated. And I can see why neurotypical people would see an ADHD person as stupid, we, at times need to backtrack and ask for repetition based on our attention not because we're slow but we're not just interested or stimulated. And it's hard as we beat ourselves and struggle to accept that we can't be good at everything despite being bothered and thinking about everything. It's like we're trying to live in all alternative universes of ourselves, but are forced to live in this present universe of who we are, and can't tangent on that reality and be part of life naturally (if that makes sense).
I was tested for ADD as a kid but came up negative, as they saw i was a gifted kid. I never heard of this channel until I was randomly recommended a video about being a gifted kid, and it resonated very strongly. I have also been suspicious of the test I had (i don't even remember it), wondering if it is a false negative, or if modern life and anxiety has eroded me that much where i struggle to pay attention even during conversation. So this video has helped me a lot too as I found more relatable points.
Your videos - especially the ones about meditation and dharma - had helped me realize a lot about life and how it works. Realy a good work Dr.k , internet as a hole need more mature people like you. Thanks from Brasil.
Please do more of these for people with ADHD. You said some things in this that can help me personally considering I have ADHD and have been struggling with it since I was young. It's especially hard considering I don't want to use prescription it medication to fix it. All of these points resonated with me. I'd love another one!
Medication isn't a fix. Its support. If you have a broken leg, crutches will help you get around but they wont fix your leg. Meds are like the crutches, they help to lessen the symptoms, but they don't fix the cause.
@@ajrigor7486 The cause is misdeveloped regions of the brain. Primarily in the prefrontal cortex. With current technology there isnt any way to fix that cause.
@@theninjaofmusic My guess is that we can be preventative. Say, incorporate skill workshops early on in ones life, which might serve 2 purposes, weed out kids who may/may not have adhd, and 2 start an early treatment plan that may potentially help redevelop those underdeveloped neural regions?
@@ajrigor7486 As far as I know there isn't any way to be preventative in the manor you describe. The regions just dont develop correctly, not for lack of use. It's just kinda unlucky in the genetic lottery. The only part of the disorder we can treat is the deficiency of dopamine. Cbt has been shown to hell at times but it's not reliable.
wow as someone with ADHD Diagnosed at 8 now 24, accidentally stumbling across this video was very powerful. I feel what Mizkif is feeling and when HealthyGamer goes over the idea of Mizkif stumbling with his words but using a snap to relate to a baby brain and how that is important, it really resonated with me. people can view you as being stupid when in reality there is just a lot going on internally. I also really like the analogy of the elements and the birds I think both of those really help with the perspective of the pros and cons to all types of brains. I'm glad that a channel like this exist to bring light to problems that people have and to help them work through it. As a gamer, it helps to have to gamers to watch discuss the issues it makes it a little easier to relate to.
I broke down crying watching this. I have felt so alone over the last two years. I am a father with ADHD feeling like i am failing my family. I have been ridiculed by every teacher or adult figure in my life because to them I am "lazy and refusing to attempt to even try". I really really really felt that part when he said "i never had a teacher smile at me". I hated school so much, but I love learning more than anything. I couldn't learn in school, because of the constant ridicule from some teachers. I wish I could find a therapist that was as good as you Dr. K. Every therapist I have tried to go to has made me feel worse and like I am the problem and they treat me like im making up my adhd symptoms.
“Ego and confidence are opposites. Ego is a cover for insecurity. It’s an armor against insecurity. Egotistical people’s view on themselves depends on other people. The confident person’s sense of self-worth comes from within. The egotistical person’s sense of self-worth comes from without. Ego is how our mind protects us from insecurity. It’s a protective mechanism. The ego is what protects you when you’re feeling down. Ego is iron on the outside and water on the inside. Confidence is a water on the outside and iron on the inside." Brilliant.
when he said he felt like he was genuinely getting dumber, as someone with adhd, that hit me hard because i thought only i felt that way
Same. I had it bad in 3rd grade and when I got Adderall my grades went from 60's to 90's and now it's coming back because my GPA was better freshman year than sophomore year and now it is even worse I am in 11th grade and have all 70's and 2 0's cause I'm doing online school which is like impossible to get my homework done i can't go to regular school cause my mom is afraid of covid. Man these are rough times.
Same here. I feel like I forget what I'm supposed to be learning for my therapy course. Sure the ADHD I have can help in helping future patient, but me trying to learn concepts feels like running at a carrot attached to me.
I also have adhd I always thought it’s not important and it doesn’t mean anything then I learn more about it recently and realize how much it actually affects me
I got ADHD too and I forget easily about things.
@@alancastro7437 dude are you me?
mizkif took this so seriously, im so proud of him
Because to people who have ADHD to escape the daily hellscape that is your own brain is something you'd do anything for
nice icon dude
@@Amazistringsmusic oooo please.. I have ADHD and have made it just fine in life without medication.. I haven't had luck finding a long term good looking and classy woman... but 98% of men are the same.. Has fuck all to with my ADHD
@Michael Angst just because your life wasn't effected that much by adhd doesn't mean other people's life weren't.
@@michaelangst6078 ah yes this is your world and we're just living in it
When he says the best feeling he ever had was on Adderall going to the doctor, if you don’t have ADHD you probably will misunderstand. He’s not high. It’s just that normal people get dopamine for doing every day tasks they need to do. It helps influence motivation. So with ADHD doing every day things like going to the doctor becomes incredibly difficult because they don’t get that same dopamine. And when you’ve never experienced just going to the doctor and being content without this mountain of anxiety, it can feel like the best thing ever. His best feeling ever is most people’s every day life.
I took adderall for my adhd for 2 years and I’ve never hated anything more in my life
@Daniel Anthony going down a little might help
I got on meds this week and for the first time in years was able to sit through a class and pay attention, went to the kitchen to make myself some tea and realized i didnt have this constant chatter of unrelated thoughts one on top of the other. I could think clearly. Really peaceful. Started bawling my eyes out and called my dad :')
If Adderall gives you euphoria, it generally means you're high off of the dopamine rush. I have severe ADHD and I have no qualms admitting that you often get a small high when you're on Adderal. It wouldn't be addictive if you didn't. If the dosage is just right, the high is basically gone.
@@roms829 I had this experience too and also just got on meds this week. I genuinely didn’t feel any sort of particular head feeling or high, but rather it’s like everything quieted down and that wall between me and my emotions, and me and the things I wanted to do just disappeared. I wasn’t second guessing myself or over analyzing myself in conversations, I was just there, in the moment. The fact that I was able to experience these things I’ve never been able to experience, mixed with the fact that I was able to access my emotions without this layer of judgment and overthinking just made me start crying and I also called my mom and everybody close with me to tell them about it. People told me that it’s because of euphoria from a high that you get, but I started on a low dosage long acting pill that you take in the morning and I’ve smoked weed before and felt real euphoria and I can guarantee that it’s not the same feeling, it was just overwhelming relief and hope for myself I guess
"Your memory is not bad at all, it's your attention." This is one of most critical key points of my ADHD life I had to learn as an adult. Hearing "How did you forget? You were right there. Are you stupid?" often enough as a kid, I eventually believed my parents. "I must be dumb because I am indeed forgetting and smart people don't forget to hang up their towel after a shower, or do their laundry, or close the fridge/front door, or turn off a light when leaving the room", etc. I'm not an idiot, my brain just doesn't prioritize thoughts.
I tend to forget to wash my dishes after supper, which frustrates my family. I am blessed to have a family that understands how integral praise is.
I'm really sorry for you. I've had the luck to have supportive parents (and friends) who realized my condition quickly and were patient when I had ADD moments. (It probably helped that my father also has it.) I couldn't imagine having to deal with the self-esteem blow from yourself ("how tf did I not realize this, I'm an idiot") and from those closest to you, also berating you for something you can't control. My heart goes out to you.
Yep. Exactly.
this also helps make sense of a phenomenon I recognized in my self where I used to think I have insane memory, but then started thinking I have shit memory.
YES!!! When Dr K mentioned one time in a video that it wasn't about memory recall issues, it was about attention issues bc it's that it's not going into our brain in the first place, that was huge to me. I thought I was super forgetful, and was getting worried about memory issues. Turns out it's not my memory, it's just that my brain isn't actually registering the thing happening in the first place bc it's focused on other things. Made me feel a lot less stupid. AND it helped me "remember" more: because now instead of focusing on memory retention, I'm focusing on being more cognizant of my actions and conversations. Completely different treatment for the same problem, and it's actually helping lol.
"even during that sentence you just said, I dazed out"
Man, right away I'm feeling this. My friends always berate me for not remembering stuff or paying attention when they talk.
Me too mate happened last night as always someone talks to you you look at them but your brain is still ticking away thinking of other stuff without being able to stop it
I even spaced out (ADHD) and I’m watching with captions
I literally spaced out at the same time he did, and snapped back when he did, so when Dr had to repeat the point it was really convenient lmao
Mizkif was too relatable in this video.
@@rickyhineman4124 same!
First time seeing Mizkif not be sarcastic 100% of the time
First time seeing Mizkif. I'm not really into twitch just have really bad mental issues and found this channel.
@@skepticmoderate5790 Mizkif is awesome. He's a really genuine dude who's a lot like us gamers in a lot of ways. Hope you found the info you're looking for man. Peace be with you :D
its because he lay down his carpace before the show
@@wearejungians
Miz is a cringe livestreamfail farmer and he's not a good person either
@@Lackingx "cringe livestreamfails farmer" lol
Mizkif was extremely well put together and sharp throughout this. Amazing stuff.
Mizkif is always put together and sharp.
Honestly, I thought the streams with Mitch and Mizkif would be a shit show of memes, but I'm glad that they took the sessions seriously.
@@TactlessGuy i think the nature of the talk and how they both wanted to benefit from it stopped any chance of it bring a meme shit show
Tactless Guy This is my first time even watching miz and I already can tell we have a lot of similarities (class clown, being kicked out, tangential thoughts, etc) same with all my ADD friends. The thing similar about all of us is that we had a point in time where we heavily despised our ADD so it’s very serious to us. It effects almost all aspects of your life and can make it much worse if you don’t find a way to control it or make it better in some way
I just wanted to add to this comment that he was alot more concise and put together than I could be in that situation ! I find his ability to visualise something profoundly to be almost like magic... I recently within the last year acknowledged that words are completely useless when it comes to feelings, as feelings are almost infinite and describing them with language falls short... I feel like people who are able to visualise in this way have adapted their brains so that they do not compromise thought for language... I think thoughts in language, and I believe this is a limit not an advantage !
I say all this to say, Mizkif should appreciate that facsite of his life, and his ability to do that is very rare and special.
you calling him smart made me tear up (positively) as someone with ADD, and having been called "stupid / lazy" most of my life :")
for me its been "smart but really fucking lazy" which gets so fucking annoying man
@@DanieIQP i cant relate to anything more than this, that statement always kills me
@@DanieIQP I believe I have social anxiety so whenever or have conversation or argue I feel stupid afterwards
its so hard when your own mom and dad forgets it and they get mad at you for not understanding when they ask a simple thing
@@DanieIQP Me too it's so frustrating. People saying I have the potential do so much better than I am but I feel like I'm constantly ruining it
If a friend or romantic partner told me, "What you're saying sounds really important. Can we go somewhere that I can concentrate better on it?" I would LOVE them, especially if they were like "concentrate on it, and you" my heart would BURST.
Literally!!
We put her writing ADHD fanfic now? 💀
last week my parents told me that I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was little and never told me, it explains a lot
Wow im really sorry. I have it too and found out very late - that must be upsetting. I hope youll do better soon blank
@@juntoringo thanks
No offense to your parents but not telling you was a dumb decision. How are you supposed to work through a problem you don't even know you have?
This same thing happened to me last year.
My parents did tell me but they always tried to hide it and I remember my dad insisting that I don't get any "special treatment" so I don't get "used to it" or "depend on it". They did take me to therapy but I don't think they ever understood what it was exactly beyond the surface stuff and I'm now REALLY getting to know what this is all about despite knowing my diagnosis.
I'm 30 years old and I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 10. This is the most I have learned about ADHD in my entire life. I am simply floored by Doc's ability to rapidly spit truth.
He never ceases to amaze me.
I feel u so hard, how is he doing this
I hope to be as effective of a doctor as Dr. K someday. I've had problems throughout my life that were not serious but rather irritating and still distracting that no doctor was able to help effectively with.
I recommend the channel How to ADHD
It’s such a strange thing listening to this man tell me everything inside my head.
I'm a grandmother, and I would have given anything to have this resource when I was younger. I think you're doing fantastic things Dr. K. I heard you speak about an app on a few occasions and I think it would be a good addition to what healthygamer is doing. I'll continue watching you grow.
The AOE healing has hit the grandmas. We are at max radius guys.
@@TeaHeart22 Hell yeah
this is super wholesome
sup gamgams
very wholesome
Small observation that I might just be projecting onto Dr. K: when Mitkif left the room to grab a piece of paper, Dr. k said to his chat how difficult it would be to keep Mitzkif's focus because Dr. k likes to talk a lot as an academic... Then he made a subtle face which to me indicated that he suddenly remembered Mitzkif was still wearing his headphones when he left. As his eyes were darting back and forth, he said an encouraging comment addressed (indirectly) to Mitzkif (who was still out of the room) , not his own twitch chat, so that Mitzkif wouldn't get discouraged. Of course, Mitzkif asked about it when he came back.
If that's what happened, that was brilliant quick thinking on Dr. k's part not to undermine his own intentions before they even began.
That's exactly what happened. Hahaha
I'm also convinced that he did it the second time Mizkif left (about the crayon) in order to make him think that it was intentional the first time (even though it wasn't), as if to say that it was okay for him to have heard that (and by extension that he meant no harm with it).
I was thinking that when he kept saying he couldn't find paper and pencil. I could absolutely imagine myself chiding about him to chat how "He's so smart, if he only he could focus", then he reveals he was still wearing his headphones. >o
Mizkif's fixation with "staring at his keyboard" is apparently a common thing. I have ADHD (31 years old) and I have a habit of playing Brickbreaker in my mind, no matter where I am. If people are giving me stressful information (financial stuff, academic, doctor's appointments), my mind throws a puck along the wall and it bounces from object to object, ricocheting like the "DVD" meme. Bookshelves and tables and door frames are all objects that redirect it.
My therapist told me it's probably an attempt to compartmentalize the information I was intaking.
Holy shit I do the same thing, but with “lasers”. I always imagine a laser beam bouncing off of all the different things in a room
@@rahulmathilakath2977 I think of “lasers” coming off of the corners of things and thinking about how they connect with one another
As a kid I’d try avoiding stepping where the “laser” on the ground would be
omg, i imagine that i’m shearing sheep for some reason!! there’s also a constant game of solitaire going on in class haha. i think the repetitive mindless action is calming
Holy shit I do the exact same thing with a puck, never thought I’d hear that other people do it too.
I play scrabble in my head with words I’m picking up around me.
"I feel like I'm getting dumber" oh god the feels. It's the worst, I know I'm not an idiot but I feel like it basically every day
Fellow ADHD here, seeing him running around in his house looking for stuff while also having different kind of socks on somehow makes me happy. I love the streams of Dr. K, nearly watched all of em in the last couple of weeks
The joys of Hyperfocusing on Dr K. I’m going through that right now lol
same here, I just felt validated that I’m not the only one who acts like that
He's literally me 😭, (not actually but eerily similar)
His guests are so.. human. Not a persona shaped by countless faceless viewers. But a feeling soul.
Same! I do the same things when in a session w therapists I sound it so funny and cute xd
"I lost my pen. Who would've thought?" Felt that :D
Hei oltiinko me samalla luontokurssilla tossa kesällä?
@@nuorivuori8459 Okei, olisin voinu vannoa profiilikuvasi perusteella :D. Mutta kiitos kuitenkin uteliaisuuteni tyydyttämisestä.
heiiiii suomalaisia, TORILLE!
The only thing I fear is becoming addicted to this RUclips channel.
You really shouldn't binge this stuff, just because I feel like it makes me feel kind of overwhelmed and spread too thin on how to help myself.
@Hesus I guess it just depends on what you're watching these for
im and idc its a great thing
Im late, cant come back
It's a good addiction
When you said “focus on multiple task at a time” it made me realize that I do best with homework when I’m doing all of my work at one time.
This is why I became a chef. Urgency and juggling 100 things at once.
The most uncanny part of this is listening to Mizkif talk and noticing that he speaks nearly the same way I do when I've been off my meds for more than a day or so. Much love and sympathy. So glad the algorithm pointed me towards this channel haha
mizkif not trying to smile , when dr. k. compliments him is the funniest Thing ever ^-^
not funny per se, but I feel proud seeing him smiling. hard to accept that he thinks he's not smart
Seeing Mizkif smile when Dr.K smiles because he understands despite not being able to articulate his thought into words, that feeling right there. Man. As a fellow person with ADD, hearing a teacher give praise instead of insulting because I don't know how to put something into words. That's an amazing feeling. Very wonderful and helpful video
YES
The opposite is also true, you gave the right answer technically but because the teacher didn't understand you he chose someone else to give the same answer that was in your head while he looks at you in a scolding way.
Honestly, if most of my teachers became bums I would not give them a tip.
Mizkif was so mature and took this so seriously. I am proud.
When he said "confidence is less ADHD intensive, and ego is fueling the fire" it made all the sense in the world to me. And this guy with ADHD found that out by himself.
I really like how Dr. K adapted his teaching style with engaging imagery and questions to keep him invested as Miz said that writing and drawing helps him concentrate. I've had teachers get furious with me for drawing to concentrate (one so as far to throw my papers at me) because they thought I was disrespecting them for not looking at them when I was listening. I appreciate Dr. K for explaining the "elemental minds" because I feel like far too many teachers think everyone should function the same way when it's simply not possible for everyone, so they end up feeling stupid or like failures because they cannot adapt to the way everyone else seems to be.
that reminds me when I need to concentrate in something i need to keep my hands busy with something else (like a pen to click) to go back to when my mind starts to wander off, then go back to the subject I must focus on
17:50 I’m legitimately crying. This is the definition of a wholesome and heartwarming interaction.
god same
dud wtf. its amazing
I feel bad for him and whatever teachers he had, just kicking some kid out of the class for being distracted without understanding why they do something repeatedly is sad
I was waiting for the moment this timestamp from you came up to see what you were talking about (because I wanted to make sure I got the lead up), and it made me legitimately cry too. For me, it was a little after when he was explaining to Mizkif his strengths in his mind, that he learns extremely fast, and presents it as praise.
@@851995STARGATE The way that society is set up, and especially the school system, things are geared towards one type of mind (he talked about this in his interview with Michael Reeves) and when the student does not have the type of mind, it is perceived as disobedient and a problem instead of a cry for help for people to understand them. My sister has ADHD also and became a teacher so she is trying to help her students and other teachers to understand that understanding the students' minds is essential
Man the world works in mysterious ways, I got diagnosed with ADD yesterday at 20 and here you are putting out a video talking to someone with ADD. I dont think there's anyone out there who I respect more than you Dr. K. Godspeed
ADHD and ADD are different things tho
@@MrMango331 not tremendously. ADHD just implies a level of hyperactivity not generally present in ADD but the underlying chemical imbalance, inability to focus and general wind mindedness is consistent between the two. I will agree tho I didnt relate with everything but most things I saw in myself and were really helpful. Most of the time the two are interchangeable
@@chappachie4168 my adhd triggered reading this
@@MrMango331 Both conditions are in medical terms called ADHD since a few years. There are in fact three "presentations" of ADHD that has been officially recognised since 2016. If you have one you can also have the others. So if you have ADD, like myself, ADHD is perfectly fine to say and even more correct.
I literally just got diagnosed 3 days ago.
I like how he tries to say random words louder to keep mizkif's attention when he's talking.5 head
It's not just for MizKif, this works on most people.
At first i was like why is he shouting? But then I totally got it because even I couldn't look away.
And notice how often he clicks his fingers
Timestamps for me
29:50 Dedicate an amount of time every day attending to one thing
32:10 accepting you suck at some things other people find easy
35:39 Use certain techniques like writing to slow down your mind
40:37 Juggle many things so your brain can jump to the next thing when you're bored
52:33 Become more confident or become more tolerant of feeling stupid
1:10:03 "maturity"
1:11:00 Control the influences that naturally engage your attention for an extended period
1:15:09 Diet
1:24:04 meditation
Thanks man, imma write this down
Thank you!! This helps me too ❤
That's an awesome strategy! Going to remember that :)
Thanks :D
Seeing him run to get a pen but still hearing him normally is so funny hahahahah
Thank you for talking about adhd. We arent dumber. We are distracted.
then soemtimes hyperfocused as shit liek how we sometimes do something for liek idk 10 hours straight but then sometimes we dont know wot to do and how to do le simplest tasks. its liek a pc with 2 gb of ram with 7000 tabs open
@@tristantheoofer2 😂
@@Goheezy69 lol
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@@tristantheoofer2 my friend I’m not sure what you did to auto correct to make it seem to always leave like as liek, but your autocorrect might need to see doctor k
at about 14 min i realized one thing which is amazing, not sure if he himself notices but he is raising his voice at times, I myself have ADHD and i have a hard time focusing but him raising his voice lowkey wakes my mind up, what a great human dr.k is, so intelligent and so kind
"i feel like as if a piece of me is turned off and i want to turn it on " shit man that hits close to home
I.... I started crying with all that conversation about making your mind work in 4 taks at a time instead of forcing it to work in a way that it doesn't want to. I've had the exact same experience as Dr. K with "achieving less if I try to make things easier". When he then started to talk about creating a life where I can do 7 things and succeed in all of them... it gave me *so much hope* . I knew I was capable of that but I gaslighted myself into thinking I had to focus my attention into less things. It was the opposite. Thank you for this video, I really *really* needed this (and I wanted to go to therapy for my adhd but it's complicated for my current situation so it currently isn't an option so yeah, this sent me into the right direction for the time being)
My timestamps for future reference when I write about them:
- 39:00 onwards. Specially 40:00
- 42:50 onwards. Specially 43:30
- 44:49
- 1:15:09
- 1:16:58
- 1:17:33 / :50
- 1:25:00
hows it going??
I loved it when @Mizkif said "sorry I zoned out" at around 35:00. That is where I fail in my ADHD, I zone out frequently but I should voice it and tell people. that bit inspired me and I hope to be like that now.
At the end when mizkif explained what he learned and how he put that into words got me the chills. That was so great.
Démaster best end to a stream period
Right? Hands down couldnt have heard a better summary!
Dr K attributing ADHD to Wind really surprised me because when I try to notice how I think, it feels like a hurricane of random thoughts and ideas just violently blowing around but somewhere in there is the calm eye of the storm. But unfortunately, it's always moving around so I never get to keep that hyper focus for long which makes me agitated and anxious.
A hurricane is wind domey
@@Lackingx dummy*
@@Sir.YeetusIII
Domey*
Abstract Dreamscape aight bet
@@Lackingx Please, continue being you. Gave me a good fucking smirk when I read "Domey*".
I have ADHD and I try to watch these videos because I find them interesting, so what I have to do is watch about 15-20 minutes at a time and come back an hour or two later to be able to retain all the things they are saying. If anyone here has adhd its a very useful thing to do!
That's exactly what I do! I watch a chunk, go to bed, and watch another chunk the following night
I also have a 20 minute learning delay
I roll back like almost a minute everytime i notice my thoughts drifting and refocus
In school I would draw during lectures, because it helped me focus on what the teacher was saying. My teachers absolutely hated it. I get now that they just weren't taught that it actually helps some kids particularly with adhd. One day a teachers assistant (the actual teacher was always on video call for this specific class) told me I was being disrespectful, and to look at the teacher. I told her if I did that, I might as well not be there at all, and went back to drawing.
She GRABS MY HAND, and tries to force the pencil out of it. I come across VERY docile and chill, but I go 0-100 the exact instant someone invades my personal space without permission. I stood in her face and cussed her out for touching me. The rest of the class was stunned silent.
She tearfully sent me to the principal, who did nothing because obviously, you don't touch a student like that. I continued drawing in every class, and she barely ever looked at me again. Do what you need to do folks. If your not hurting anyone, it's not your job to make other people comfortable.
I can relate to this. I doodled during lectures, which slowed things down enough that I could memorize the lecture word for word instead of just the major points. I also started reading books during lectures and had teachers get angry at me, but usually give up trying to stop me when I could reproduce important parts of their lectures complete with an imitation of their voice and inflections.
@@jkishhabi OH that's actually an interesting one. I can only "mix mediums" with my adhd. I can focus on words and art, or classical music with words, art with lyrical music etc... Focusing on reading while someone's talking, and understanding both, sounds kind of impressive tbh. Most of my notes were shorthand and pictographs, coz even trying to keep up with what the teacher was saying, while I was writing down different words, was difficult. And don't even get me started on "showing my work" in math 😒 the amount of times I was accused of cheating for just doing it in my head. Such a dumb concept lol
My notebooks from highschool are full of doodles at the margins
Thanks for this Cixtrist. Turns out I, too, have ADHD but it wasn't "discovered" for four decades. And my response to such arrogant control on the part of "teachers" has always been anger. Kinda always had the Sherlock Holmes view of normies, "what goes on in those little minds of yours?" Should probably say here, I'm well educated in psychology and always "did my own work" regarding the hard work of internal growth. Just saying what goes on in my mind and I am pleased to see another person with a different operating system having what I consider an appropriate reaction to the bullshittery of "authorities" whose desire is to crush others to maintain their authority and are demonstrably uninterested/not curious/don't care about actual learning or teaching.
This man is helping more people than he will ever know. Today he helped heal my battered soul, and I cannot express enough gratitude for this.
I have ADHD. It's freaking insane how at 18:00 onwards I came to the same conclusion as Mizkif going 'hmm so a mature person would probably be water'. Just to find out a minute later that that conclusion was impressive to make. Felt the exact same way as he did when you smiled at him too
That part literally just summed up my life. When I was younger I just figured stuff out and absorbed information easily, but I couldn't study for shit. I basically just faked my way through school to the point where teachers thought I was gifted at first but ended up with barely a passing grade by graduation. Now I have a really hard time learning anything because my brain is so full of stuff it just can't focus on anything and feels like it's drowning (which I don't think is what he means by water but that's my feeling)
@@Ailieorz Yo I got basically the exact same story as you! I was even in the advanced classes for some portion of middle school before falling out of them. Now I'm taking online classes in college and I have maybe four assignments done and the semester is almost over.
Have you watched the video on gifted kids? I literally came straight from that video onto this one.
I was a smart, small kid who had some pretty advanced vocab for a 2nd grader, and now I'm doing just a couple college classes a semester because that's the most I could reasonably handle since my attention and energy gets so incredibly spent just doing those assignments. It consumes so much of my time just trying to force myself to complete the assigned reading and then do the assignment, it makes me want to procrastinate even harder as the work gets harder and more advanced.
@@foodfrogs6052 I just did the same thing. From gifted child video. I was that child who was "gifted" in middle school, but then dropped all but one of the advanced classes. I am now a year after dropping out of University and then dropping out of online college classes because several semesters in a row, I did the first few weeks of homework, and then fell behind for the rest of the semester. I was officially diagnosed with ADHD in Feb 2021. I've been chaotically holding onto a job since, as I learn about ADHD and how it's affected my whole life.
Same thing for me, I didnt pay attention in secondary school (I'm in uk) where I just fluked my grades. Teachers and my parents didnt consider I had ADHD at all. I went to college (where u get grades to go to university/college for Americans) and I failed so bad as everything was so much more complicated and I struggled with studying and concentrating.
ADHD is looking down at the comments to distract yourself a little bit more.
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Jokes on you, I paused the video before scrolling. But... I have been playing Starbound during the video.
I’ve suffered from the negative aspects of ADHD my whole life and laughed when he mentioned the supermarket. Taking twice as long shopping is a less-referenced (and more trivial) yet integral part of the condition for me and people I know who have the same vata mind. It’s like an inside joke between millions of people.
But then he talked about not being present and experiencing the actual life going on around him, and I couldn’t help but shed a few tears. The deepest-cutting part of being who I am and living in the time I am is always having the thought that my lack of focus has taken away the experiences that make life worthwhile and that I’ll never be who I’m meant to be.
I appreciate you two talking through it and helping me think through it. More introspection to come...
I hear you buddy. Supermarkets are the bane of my existence. This might sound corny/cliche, but really think about it... have you tried not forcing to fit in everywhere and be like everyone else? Like most of society? Sometimes being yourself means cutting off things/friends/family or even routines. Maybe it's time to change it up?
I'm always struggling with letters and forms. It takes me weeks to respond and hours to fill out the spaces. I always lose track of deadlines until I have only a hour left.
And yes, the supermarket. Too many things to choose from.
Probably explains why i put headphones on and stare at something in my cart to get in and get oit as quickly as possible, i hate being in grocery stores
This was an amazing session. Mizkif got teary-eyed at the end, I think, because Dr K called for a round of applause for him which, as Miz explained, is something he hasn’t been used to from a teacher
"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid."
If your ADHD is a constant worry, you are forcing yourself to attempt to work in the wrong environment. You need to find work that suites your abilities. i.e. an ADHD mind is not going to excel in a 9-5 desk job with no stimulation, however you will most likely be an unbelievable emergency responder. Accept you cannot change, embrace and focus on your abilities and don't spend all your energy on trying to improve things that you may not be able too . . .
For me i have the exact oppisite i have a hard time finding motivation to do basic things like dishes showering and washing my clothes but when there is to much stimulibi start to get nervous ptsd may also play a factor as i grew up stuck in the middle between fighting families and family members so there was rarely a point where something was not going on in the house.
Watching this video, or even reading the comments, is like being hit with a mind bomb after mind bomb that just... switches on the light in a very dark room that holds aaalll the explanations for the things I often struggle with in life. Since as far as I can remember, 2 of my greatest fears were being put in a straight jacket (not being able to move) and being stuck in a 9-5 office job. I'm 30 now and it's taken me far too long to understand my "conditions". Carrying notepads and having whiteboards, setting alarms and reminders helps me to keep track of things. Can you tell me a bit more about why you think an emergency responder would be very suitable? I have my theory but I dont want to influence what you might say.
Exactly!! I have ADHD but I was fortunate enough to build a career in the field I'm passionate about. It makes ALL the difference.
True. High stimulation tasks are great for ADD.
I was terrible at school. But in college I was on the board of many organizations and planned multiple events at once the entire time I was in school. My grades sucked but my resume was impecable. My job now is event planning. With so many things going on at once my brain switches almost naturally. I also plan details that would otherwise go unnoticed because of random thoughts that occur. Like maybe we should only have 1 trash can on this side of the room because we will have too much traffic. Or that light bulb is going to be shining right in someone’s ey in the back, let’s move it to the left a little.
My coworkers always ask how I can think of every detail. The truth is, I don’t. I just think of so many it seems like it is a lot for others. It’s not perfect, sometimes I overcomplicate things and other times I may micromanage. But I’m effective at what I do and I learned to use my disorder to my advantage.
Also I went to school for business law. My gpa was so bad I left in order to work for a nonprofit where someone was kind enough to intern to see what I could do and that changed my life.
1:11:54 what a magnificent transition
im dying
oki new vid pls
Hey!
@@tokaintanda1579 LOL yooo Tokai
Big fan! Just be careful to not get murdered by John McAfee :)
Interesting chat, good for Mizkif.
You stopped uploading videos
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You are a discovery of the year for me, Dr. K. I have a lot of problems in my life that are relating to mental health, like ADHD. I realised that a year ago but I didn't know what to do with these problems, also i have no money to get qualified help from people like you because i'm just a student from shitty country. But now I want to say thanks, because you changed my life and helped to understand myself. I started to feel better and now I don't think anymore that I'm abnormal. Thank you so much. I hope one day I will thank you in more important way.
Sorry for my grammar, I learned english from reckful stream, lol.
What the fuck? You seriously learned English from watching streams? Your English is actually more impressive than most.
@@YourMomIsSoFat100 for a long time, it was my only source of audio information in English. But of course, I used google to find language rules and texts. Thank you for the compliment!
stay happy. :)
@@NameUnderscoreSurname That is extremely impressive, nice, man
As someone with ADHD myself, I can't help not to reflect on and answer the questions given to Mizkif myself, lol. This was a good session.
I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and when I saw this video I realized that I have not related to anything more in my entire life. I feel like I have neglected a huge part of myself all my life, thinking that I'm stupid and not enough, and when Mizkif speaks about him having 20 different thoughts in his head and always spacing out, I can do nothing else than cry. I am so relieved that i finally know what has been troubling me and that I am not alone, but every day is such a struggle and I'm so tired of always being spaced out and being so damn hyperactive. I just want to calm down sometimes and be able to sleep safe and sound, just for one night.
Thank you HealthyGamerGG. Thank you for spreading awareness about disorders such as and similar to this. And thank you Mizkif for opening up about ADHD.
When I was little I was diagnosed with adhd and I was basically treated like a puppy I was given a special desk that had walls to not distract other children and there was snacks that was given to me every time I did something good (I didn't get them often) and I was given ridillen and it kind of changed me for the worse because it slowed me down I stopped being happy..I hate that my parents felt that this was a cancer
That sucks, are you ok now though?
Hey, how are you now buddy?
@@anshi5098 I am doing fine. I'm married now to the only person that will truly accept me for my wacky moments the dumb moments the sad moments and she likes to be wacky with me. I don't like not being around her because of how awkward I feel in social interactions. I work in the automotive industry making almost $20 an hour (25 in 4 years ) and opportunity to move up and it's a plus my coworkers accept my wild behavior as well. I just wish that parents in the 90s had better tolerance of children that required a different way of teaching them
@@pallydrive1 Thats amazing! I wish you a long and happy married life. Im happy that you've found a soulmate and coworkers that accept you. Recently I've noticed that my brother has all of the symptoms for ADHD in a child. I brought it up to my mom and she ignored me. Plus, getting him to therapy and me as well as I have anxiety issues is very difficult in my country because the covid restrictions havent been fully lifted.
Thats really messed up brother. The one thing my mother always made sure to do was NEVER tell the school because they think they know how to handle it and simply dont. Seeing how the school treats adhd kids as cancers to the classroom is the reason I would never tell anyone if my kid had ADHD
I am 25 years old, and have had regular visits with my psychiatrist with regards to my ADHD since I was 6 years old. This is, without question, the most descriptive and enlightening content about ADD/ADHD I have seen in my life so far. The readiness to reframe the idea of this "disorder" is perfect, it is something I and others around me have tried to do before but failed to have the words for it. I tend to think of myself as a person with a reasonably good understanding of myself from a 3rd person view in terms of strength and weakness, but this really gave me a new way to talk about (and thus understand) the type of mind I have. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
I like how Dr. K said to Mizkif that he wasn't just being nice. I appreciate his enthusiasm and how genuine he is.
My ADHD and school has been interesting. I also had ODD so everyone told me I couldn't, so I did. I found online classes worked best for me because I could have the freedom to learn MY way rather than being forced to learn how everyone else learned. I am finishing a masters degree in clinical mental health counseling currently. So we CAN do it, we just have to find our own way of doing things, a way that works for us.
ADHD is like having a small RAM size but an infinite and permanent hard disk size. Once it hits disk, it sticks. The difference is that the RAM is clearing at a higher frequency than most other minds.
@@natetehgreatt this is exactly what I experience. It's hard to grasp new information but once I have that grasp, I'm better at it than most people.
I have adhd/add and I legit cannot watch a movie without having 4 breaks where I watch a few RUclips videos or do something else.
xFrai those are rookie numbers, i cant even do anything without being either bored af or overwhelmed af
Often thats a sign that the movie is not up to your standard. Im the same.
i have to sit on my phone and play games the entire time i try to watch anything.
I just search up movie clips on RUclips and it just has all the actual important parts
I don’t have ADHD and I do this all the time lol
I was diagnosed with ADD about 2 weeks ago as a 29 year old. This conversation related to me in such a powerful way I almost teared up. I relate so hard with the “stupid” feeling Mizkif talks about, it was almost scary. Such wonderful information and beyond helpful to learn about. Thank you both for this talk, I hope it helps other people the way it helped me :)
I was also diagnosed relatively recently, and so much clicked. I felt terrible because I thought I was some socially inept weirdo and told my psychiatrist "It's like I just say stuff from left-field all the time". So much self-loathing comes from it, feeling like you don't try hard enough or that you're a failure. It's so tough, especially when you feel lost like the enemy you're fighting is invisible. Having a diagnosis helps so much.
I teared up too
Mizkif actually understands himself so well. It's pretty incredible.
I think it's pretty common for people with ADHD, it's certainly the case for me anyway.
yes
I just gotta say that Dr. K's sort of Socratic teaching method here really helps keep people like Mizkif (and like me since i have ADHD too) engaged and focused on the topic at hand. It truly was interesting to watch them interact and learn from one another.
“Adderall gives me this euphoric feeling.”
*tears up* yup.
It’s so painful to realize that a normal persons life seems euphoric and amazing to us ADHDers
This video has been a revelation for me. I've never heard anyone or seen any kind of hint that anyone else had the same kind of thought process that I do, even though I know it can't be a thing unique to me.
When Mizkif drew the overlapping squares I immediately had a "wtf" moment, because for as long as I can remember I always considered myself to be detached from everyone around me. I always pictured it as if everyone else was the Olympics logo, with it's interconnected rings, and I was another 6th ring not attached to the others. The fact that his square drawing was so similar in concept to that was mind blowing to me
I kept crying so much watching this video.. I have extremely severe ADHD and everything was so relatable. Thank you so much for talking about this.
He is so good on making things clear and helping people out. I would like to hear him talk with someone having Social Anxiety. That is more relatable to me, so I hope to learn more about that.
He just did! I hope ot helps you, I'm gonna watch it too after this!
When Dr.K was complimenting Miz was so cute because you can see that he feels good when someone says nice things to him rather than people calling him stupid
This was so beautiful to watch.
I don't know Mizkif, never heard of him before, but man it was so satisfying to see him realizing things and making brilliant connections and creating metaphors that honestly I don't think he realizes "normal" people wouldn't make.
Also he's incredibly self aware, I mean I just watched the one with xqc and I was amazed at how logical he was, but at the same time how feelings wasn't a language he was versed in (for the record I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just that I'm the exact opposite and it never occurred to me people who weren't aware of their feelings to that extent existed).
So this was fascinating and delightful to watch, I've taught before in my life and honestly I just wanted to give this guy all the gold stars, grab his notebook and write an extensive "your kid had an outstanding performance today".
This stream was incredible.
This channel, these videos. Have legitimately helped me change my life for the better. It helps me recognize why I introduce the negative habits I have into my life and realize I'm not a monster. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. And I hope one day I can thank you in person, or chat.
Awww :)
Hearing the part at 45:00 about segmenting time with your girlfriend made my heart sing, because it’s what I’ve learned to do to ensure that my girlfriend doesn’t feel like I’m ignoring her while ensuring I stay present. It felt really redeeming to hear someone else talk about it
Dude he got so excited when he made the correlation for 26 year olds having a water mind, my life would be 100 percent on track if i had one person that got that excited when i made a connection between ideas and concepts.
Watching this as an adult with late diagnosed ADHD and mom of a boy with ADHD, I just keep shaking my head and thinking “oh honey… I know it’s so hard, and you are doing your best, and just-can I give you a hug?”
Seeing the serious side of Mizkif is amazing. Also... I like how Dr. K uses Eastern stuff. Makes me curious about that as well.
You can look into the lectures by Alan Watts. He does a good mix of eastern and western philosophy..
@@VSM101 Any Sri Arbindo materials you could recommend?
When this guy started asking about his bowel movements I stopped doing my math homework and had to start listening again.
right it came out of nowhere i didn't expect it lol
It was out of place at first then I realised immediately where he was going with it in regards to the gut microbiome etc but that’s rat study had me trippin’
And then he says when they transplanted a rat crap into another rat, and that made it depressed....yeah I'd be depressed if someone did that with me 😂😂😂
Dr. K works in mysterious ways
doing math hw gang 👍
I have ADD and I loved the part where you complimented him! Not sure if you did that on purpose because you know that people with ADHD often feel very underappreciated, but it was sooo good. I felt the compliment by proxy because I really empathize with Mizkif and his mind, similar to mine!!
You know he has ADHD when he just bolts to get the notebook instead of walking calmly like most people and forgot to close the door when he was back
This is litterally one of the best adhd videos on youtube
Oh my God, this Helps me Immensely in my personal and professional life. I'm 34 and an MD and every time I succeded in life is because I was juggling so many things at the same time. and vice versa, every time I focus on one thing - one exam, one certification - I failed miserably ... Thank you so much for this enlightening episode !!
I'm blown away by how much I can relate to this. I've wondered for some years now whether I have ADD or something similar, but after watching this I'm certain that I at least have a "wind mind". Dr. K told us about his friend who suggested that he needed to have many things to do, and rotate through them to keep his mind from being bored. I feel that I do the same thing - I'll go from working on a coding project, to playing a game, to reading up on a subject, back to coding, and so on. If I am not doing something almost every second of the day I can easily start feeling down.
I also find that its hard to keep my mind from wondering. I can be listening to a person talk, and even if its someone I really respect and want to listen to, I still find that I end up daydreaming or wondering about something in the middle of them talking. This gets especially difficult for me in certain situations, for example if I am at the store with my girlfriend I find it difficult to focus on our conversation.
One positive I have found however is that sometimes I can enter a flow state when working on something that I enjoy. I work as a software engineer, and I've found that on days where I don't get interrupted I can blank out everything else around me and enter flow if I'm working on something that interests me.
Thanks for taking the time to do this Dr. K, I feel like I learn more about myself from every video I watch.
I'm in a similar boat, where I'm basically constantly alt-tabbing on digital-related interests -- which also includes programming! I'm very conflicted about Dr. K's advice because on the one hand it sounds like "My brain is built this way, so operate in that environment", and then on the other hand it sounds like "Don't feed that brain, it will get worse" -- and I don't know how to reconcile it. I also had a similar experience with college, and it's why I'm taking 2 programming classes at a time instead of 4 or 5 because I feel like I can manage that more easily. I'm really trying to understand it and figure out how I can approach my life. I think you might have some really useful insights, Ross.
This interview has turned out to be incredibly useful for me. I have severe ADD when I watch these I always have to rewind back to get as much information as I can, This is genuinely making me feel better about myself.
10 minutes in and the ADHD is on full display lmao, I feel this so much already
Really appreciate him being so open and honest. It's such a double edged sword, having a certain brilliance and self awareness of having an abstract thought process, but it gets in the way of so many basic things people take for granted. I can craft complex and layered music with tons of intersecting complementary lines happening simultaneously, but I can't bring myself to do dishes or laundry for weeks, sometimes months. The more disordered my environment gets, the more overwhelmed I get by the mere thought of addressing it, thus it only gets worse. It's easier to sink into a form of chaos (in my case composing and producing music) that I have full awareness of and control over than to address the out of control environment of my own haphazard doing.
"I can't find a pen, sorry - but I found a blue marker" - the MOST ADHD relatable moment. I wanted to cry and hug him. Been there, buddy. Been there.
My gosh I'm so glad that this video showed up in my recommended. I needed it so much. I relate to Mizkif in so many ways and I finally see where I was going wrong and how I've been fertilizing my own ADHD. I've been trying to get this document for work done for the longest time and I keep pushing the deadline and feeling shitty for disappointing my client. Now I see that I was trying to be water or fire when I'm air.
Every day I sit at my desk and look at the document and try to force myself to focus only on that when I should have been juggling all of the other tasks that I put off to do that. I was so afraid that if I tried to do the more creative tasks that it would be too much fun and I'd hyperfocus and never get the boring document done. Maybe if I'd toggled more then I'd have finished weeks ago. Even now I took a break from the document to watch this video and more than half way through I felt my attention drift and that pressure in my skull that I get when I try too hard to focus on stuff my mind doesnt want to. So I went back to the document and instead of getting that pressure feeling, I was free to actually type stuff in for a bit without getting frustrated.
I need to lean into being wind more and stop trying to force myself into fitting some idea of how I'm suppose to be productive. I used to think that switching was procrastinating but it's really just shifting gears. Thank you for this discussion. It meant a lot and seeing myself in Mizkif (despite never seeing him before now) really changed my perspective of myself and how much I kind of talk down on myself for not living up to some standard that wasn't meant for me.
I was diagnosed with ADHD about 14 years ago, and I’m learning things in this stream about myself I never realized. This helped me so much.
Thankfully the Twitch chat isn't in this video, Twitch chat was too cancerous during this.
Nah ,Mizfik says in the first minute itself he turned off chat and was going to pretend it was just a face to face with Dr.K. Chat would have set his ass on fire.
GOOD ONE MATT LULW
That's because Miz is cancer and has a cancer community
@@Lackingx oh come one miz's community is peepoPog widepeepoHappy Kapp
Abstract Dreamscape aight bet
I also failed most of my classes in my first semester of college. Then when I only did 2 classes, I did even worse and dropped out just like Dr.K. I suspect that I've been cultivating a wind mind by watching RUclips and playing video games making me have a short attention span when it comes to work. It's really hard for me to figure out how to be more productive, but at least I think I'm on the right track :(
I pretty much just failed out of college after like 6 years of very slow and frustrating progress. Hearing him describe the solution for our type of mind made me burst into tears. I don't know what I'm going to do, but the 'juggling' technique he talked about seems very promising.
@@senaesul3128 damn I'm pretty close to failing college. It's terrifying but I kind of don't care, just worried about what happens after. Maybe I'll have to try that juggling thing again too. I did best in life when an even mix of cerebral and physical things to do from sun up to sun down. So I think it works. I took this semester to slow down and fix my grades and I'm damn near dropping out so maybe I need more stuff to do 😅
@@paigec5017 perhaps! Trying to do all the hobbies I like really made me realize how few hours are in the day, and how important working efficient is.
Goddamn is this relatable, it felt like watching myself. The frustration of knowing you understand something but your brain is just outputting so much noise you can't put anything into words and you just end up sounding stupid. I can't tell you how many things not being able to focus your attention affects, can't speak without sounding stupid, can't keep anything in short term memory because your mind was wandering, seem clumsy because you're just not present enough to realize what's around you. It really fucks with you. This was super helpful.
This is great. I have said for years "I think on paper." I was lucky enough to know artists who told my way of thinking was a "form of genuis." I believe that, but it's also an obstacle. Here was an example of another such human. I admire Mizkaf so much. Just a note about structuring my environment to improve my focus: I used to train horses (in addition to my fulltime writer job). They put blinders on some race horses to keep their focus through a two-minute race. It ain't no shame to invest in human blinders.
i love when matt is speaking like this, he is so genuine and wants to become a better individual
Lol your profile picture made me continuously swipe on my phone for 10 seconds cause i thought a hair was on my screen.
@@drew7515 use dark mode plez ;-;
acknowledging that there were two different types of "idiot" that he was talking about was really well done. the first thing my mind jumped to when he said he loves being an idiot at around 53:00 was that he said he hated feeling like an idiot earlier, and it was great seeing you separate and describe those two things instead of saying "but you said you hated being an idiot..?" like i was thinking
So glad you're blowing up, loved your content since the first reckful video
As someone who is diagnosed with ADHD, most if not everything Mizkif had said is 100% relatable. From his low-self esteem and confidence regarding how he feels like he is/getting stupid(er) to thinking he has low memory/ having 100 other thoughts mid-conversation is on spot along with simple tasks like calling people being overbearing,.
Regarding Dr. K, I'm in the same situation as he was in College. I'm in my 2nd year, dropped a lot of my courses thinking that I'd get a higher GPA only to have an opposite effect - definitely, my psychiatrist has even suggested the same idea to me about just saying 'fuck it' and going all out and start juggling a lot of work.
I also feel better when Dr. K points out the genius side of ADHD like being able to learn things faster and recall information at lightspeed - that's definitely an observation I've noticed myself but again I've always thought it was a memory issue when I completely missed the fact that it's ADHD = Attention Deficit. Meanwhile, I've also noticed that like Mizkif, I just took in the majority of the information of this video and internalized as I subconsciously just stared at an object and in a way meditated.
And I can see why neurotypical people would see an ADHD person as stupid, we, at times need to backtrack and ask for repetition based on our attention not because we're slow but we're not just interested or stimulated. And it's hard as we beat ourselves and struggle to accept that we can't be good at everything despite being bothered and thinking about everything.
It's like we're trying to live in all alternative universes of ourselves, but are forced to live in this present universe of who we are, and can't tangent on that reality and be part of life naturally (if that makes sense).
I was tested for ADD as a kid but came up negative, as they saw i was a gifted kid. I never heard of this channel until I was randomly recommended a video about being a gifted kid, and it resonated very strongly. I have also been suspicious of the test I had (i don't even remember it), wondering if it is a false negative, or if modern life and anxiety has eroded me that much where i struggle to pay attention even during conversation. So this video has helped me a lot too as I found more relatable points.
Your videos - especially the ones about meditation and dharma - had helped me realize a lot about life and how it works. Realy a good work Dr.k , internet as a hole need more mature people like you.
Thanks from Brasil.
Whole*. Hole is buraco, whole is inteiro. Very good English my man and/or woman! Keep learning, you're doing great. Abraço!
Please do more of these for people with ADHD. You said some things in this that can help me personally considering I have ADHD and have been struggling with it since I was young. It's especially hard considering I don't want to use prescription it medication to fix it. All of these points resonated with me. I'd love another one!
Medication isn't a fix. Its support. If you have a broken leg, crutches will help you get around but they wont fix your leg. Meds are like the crutches, they help to lessen the symptoms, but they don't fix the cause.
@@theninjaofmusic Is there a way to fix the cause? I guess changing behavior which is a massive effort.
@@ajrigor7486 The cause is misdeveloped regions of the brain. Primarily in the prefrontal cortex. With current technology there isnt any way to fix that cause.
@@theninjaofmusic My guess is that we can be preventative. Say, incorporate skill workshops early on in ones life, which might serve 2 purposes, weed out kids who may/may not have adhd, and 2 start an early treatment plan that may potentially help redevelop those underdeveloped neural regions?
@@ajrigor7486 As far as I know there isn't any way to be preventative in the manor you describe. The regions just dont develop correctly, not for lack of use. It's just kinda unlucky in the genetic lottery. The only part of the disorder we can treat is the deficiency of dopamine. Cbt has been shown to hell at times but it's not reliable.
wow as someone with ADHD Diagnosed at 8 now 24, accidentally stumbling across this video was very powerful. I feel what Mizkif is feeling and when HealthyGamer goes over the idea of Mizkif stumbling with his words but using a snap to relate to a baby brain and how that is important, it really resonated with me. people can view you as being stupid when in reality there is just a lot going on internally. I also really like the analogy of the elements and the birds I think both of those really help with the perspective of the pros and cons to all types of brains. I'm glad that a channel like this exist to bring light to problems that people have and to help them work through it. As a gamer, it helps to have to gamers to watch discuss the issues it makes it a little easier to relate to.
19:23 Goddammit. I know exactly how Mizkif is feeling right now. The "somebody actually thinks I'm competent, that I'm good at something."
I broke down crying watching this. I have felt so alone over the last two years. I am a father with ADHD feeling like i am failing my family. I have been ridiculed by every teacher or adult figure in my life because to them I am "lazy and refusing to attempt to even try". I really really really felt that part when he said "i never had a teacher smile at me". I hated school so much, but I love learning more than anything. I couldn't learn in school, because of the constant ridicule from some teachers. I wish I could find a therapist that was as good as you Dr. K. Every therapist I have tried to go to has made me feel worse and like I am the problem and they treat me like im making up my adhd symptoms.
VATA MIND
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Please do a follow up with mizkif this was so helpful to someone with adhd
"I just wanna not listen to what people say, and just shut up and sit there" hoooooly shit I feel this
“Ego and confidence are opposites. Ego is a cover for insecurity. It’s an armor against insecurity. Egotistical people’s view on themselves depends on other people. The confident person’s sense of self-worth comes from within. The egotistical person’s sense of self-worth comes from without. Ego is how our mind protects us from insecurity. It’s a protective mechanism. The ego is what protects you when you’re feeling down. Ego is iron on the outside and water on the inside. Confidence is a water on the outside and iron on the inside." Brilliant.
I loved listening to this it was so wholesome. Miz was so dialed in and you could tell dr k was able to help him so much better