I don't know why, but I love seeing the end of these videos where they re-emerge back onto the street/civilization. It's like youve been in this epic backcountry battle for the past hour but you come back out into the world unscathed where you started from
“It’s a good place to work on line choice”. Choices available: Rocky, chundery line or, Rockier, chunderier line. Taking the GoPro effect into account, I can imagine how physically demanding that trail is in real life.
I did 7 years of competitive rock climbing before MTB took it's place as my favorite hobby, so I fully understand arm pump. I never thought it might be something in MTB, but it makes a lot of sense after watching this.
Great vid mate, surprised you don't have more subs to be honest. Love the raw crystal clear footage with all the sounds of the trail. Keep up the awesome work my dude.
What a great DH trail ! Granted, I can't complain because we have a lot of choices of trails here in France when it comes to mountain biking. But when I watch your videos I just want to fly to British Columbia with my MTB and ride there all day long ! 😁
Arm pump is a buildup of lactic acid. Basically, you're gripping so tight that the muscles in your forearms reduce circulation which means reduced oxygen. This leads to your muscles switching to anaerobic respiration and the byproduct of that is lactic acid. The lactic acid needs to be disposed of by the bloodstream, but it can't because of the reduced circulation. So, now you have lactic acid building up in your muscles, which increases pressure, which reduces circulation, which reduces oxygen, which leads to more anaerobic respiration and thus more lactic acid, etc. It becomes a feedback loop and eventually you lose all ability to use those muscles until the pressure is reduced. For obvious reasons, your body doesn't want this to happen, and your pain receptors start firing like crazy to tell you to stop.
Just watching this gave me arm pump. While I've never experienced it on my bike, I'm pretty sure it's the same feeling I get after swinging a hammer too long. That sounds terrifying on a trail like this.
When I started riding a year ago, among the multitude of challenges I faced was one I didn’t expect - arm pump and hand fatigue. Obviously I was way too tense and holding too tight, and the problem has mostly disappeared now, but I expect to get reacquainted with the problem when I ride LOTS soon. Martha’s looks like a harder, longer version of Squirrels. 1,500m of descent in 30 minutes is 100m every 2 minutes. That’s some crazy sustained descent.
@@DaleStone have you tried raising your levers up more towards parallel to the ground? Pretty much eliminates arm pump as it forces the heels of your palms to bear the force of gravity on the cockpit and not having to reach downward stops the contraction of your forearm as your finger reaches/squeezes the levers. Free fix that’s worth a try at least! Edit: reputable sources: ruclips.net/video/074PS_hMkTE/видео.html ruclips.net/video/7YHDpunS4yQ/видео.html
Good suggestion, I've tried pointing them up further and further, but there becomes a point where the tight wrist angle leads to less happy nerves. A careful balance, and thankfully it takes more than a vertical kilometer to get any pump. 🙂
@@DaleStone I thought the same at first, except for me over time I realized I was just hyper aware of the angle change. The benefit of hands pushing more on the bars has helped me become way more fluid even in traversing and climbing/rolling.
That was such an Epic ride! almost 3 videos in 1. That is totally might type of trail but "hell no" to going up on peddle power ... that is definitely a shuttle trip otherwise call the ER now :)
Nice, a follow some of those mountain bike rides on different channels, but this was one hella rocky trail. I can feel that hand/palm cramp pain. When i drive my road bike without suspensions on slightly bumpy path, sometimes pain becomes unreal, and because my bike does not have suspensions its even worse for me :D talking about hardcore cycling :D
For some reason, I found the slow speed crash at 32:20 to be uncommonly funny. Watched it several times and can't quite figure out why it is so hilarious. Maybe the slow balletic dismount followed by abrupt header into the snow / tree base and then a moment of stillness. Hahaha !!
I read about the quadricept tendinopathy thing and the cause was overuse of the quadricepts and judging by this video this trail would definitely do that lmao
Man, I live in Hood River, Oregon on the Columbia river and this is again, a reminder of just how spoiled-easy-low to no chunk-pure smooth dirt most of the trails in this area are !! But a day-worthy descent this trail is !! Have a broke left thumb I had to wait 20 days to have set n pinned .. trippling the down time .. when rains just made for epic "tack alert" conditions here .. but I'm just .. 'twittling my thumbs' .. dreamin of tail time .. watchin vids like yours. what settings do you use ? I got a gopro 8 n cannot get rid of the white-out ground patch when riding in the doug firs on a sunny day. Keep changing settings according to some of the utube mtn bikers setting but with not much luck. Garth hardin on utube to see some local trails n richter fun easy jump trails here in Hood !! Ride Jump or Wither !!
Great video! You should try using 4k 30fps with the gopro. I found the image to be a lot clearer on RUclips, and the 30fps gives a better sense of speed.
The image quality so good I can only image how good this video looks before it gets put through the compressive butthole that is RUclips video compression.
Im going to Revelstoke end of this month. This is one of the trails we are hitting. Any advice? Sounds like just take in the actual breaks and rest arms???
Great video! One big question: could you give more info about your injury created by the long and sustained descent? Thanks! How could it have been avoided?
Classic overuse injury, just pushed over the edge by a big effort like this. Supplemental strength training, knowing when to take rest days, and actually taking them would have solved it! 🙂
@@DaleStone I have also developed quadriceps tendinopathy and have been doing exercises at home that I transferred from my physio sessions. Would you be able to provide me with the exercises that seem to work for you in both strengthening and in alleviating pain? Thanks!
Ive been binge watching and binge watching, buddy... can you please bolt your gopro on your buddies helmet and point it backwards so we can se you doing some riding?
The camera holds the shot so steady that it looks like a PlayStation rally game... Specially with that 'painted' backdrop... Its summer here in NZ... so 2 weeks of torrential downpour at the mo... sigh
First seven minutes: Hit every feature After seven minutes: Avoid every feature... By the end of the day, play "Find the one bolt that didn't shake loose"
Hi m8! Whats with all the creeking/rattling sound coming of you bike in this vid!? Usually i domt hear it this much in your videos!? Given you ride pretty rocky stuff most times, this shouldent make more sounds then normal? Great content, im soooo damn jelous of where you live, god damnit! Perhaps time to just sell everything i own, wife included, and just buy me a house and a new bike and live life as supposed to??! Pz
@@DaleStone maybe it's the highlights mixed with youtubes 4k 60p vp9 compression or something. my 4k 30p footage looks way less sharp. Very interesting
the clarity and sharpness of the camera is the best I have ever seen.
I don't know why, but I love seeing the end of these videos where they re-emerge back onto the street/civilization. It's like youve been in this epic backcountry battle for the past hour but you come back out into the world unscathed where you started from
Survived another day! 🙏
“It’s a good place to work on line choice”.
Choices available:
Rocky, chundery line or,
Rockier, chunderier line.
Taking the GoPro effect into account, I can imagine how physically demanding that trail is in real life.
Put me in physio for a few months! 😅
I did 7 years of competitive rock climbing before MTB took it's place as my favorite hobby, so I fully understand arm pump. I never thought it might be something in MTB, but it makes a lot of sense after watching this.
Great vid mate, surprised you don't have more subs to be honest. Love the raw crystal clear footage with all the sounds of the trail. Keep up the awesome work my dude.
It definitely worth watching this video to the end..that bonus clip was really funny 😆
What a journey. Pretty epic. Thanks for sacrificing your nerve endings to share this vid. 😊
I imagine, how I drive there when I listen to my music loud on headphones ... what a blast! :) Thumps up dude for this perfomance!
Incredible! My deathgrip would have been an issue on that!!!
28:52 is what I'm talking about. Didn't think it was possible. Now you know how I feel all the time.
Old age has taken its unforgiving grasp on us.
That bonus clip is the REAL content! Holy hell hahahaha
Been keeping that one safe! 😂
Guy tipped over like a tree falling in the forest, in slow motion to boot. 🤣
What a great DH trail ! Granted, I can't complain because we have a lot of choices of trails here in France when it comes to mountain biking. But when I watch your videos I just want to fly to British Columbia with my MTB and ride there all day long ! 😁
Great video, I really enjoyed that trail but about 3/4s of the way down my hands just stopped working lol
Accurate... Haha.
Arm pump is a buildup of lactic acid. Basically, you're gripping so tight that the muscles in your forearms reduce circulation which means reduced oxygen. This leads to your muscles switching to anaerobic respiration and the byproduct of that is lactic acid. The lactic acid needs to be disposed of by the bloodstream, but it can't because of the reduced circulation. So, now you have lactic acid building up in your muscles, which increases pressure, which reduces circulation, which reduces oxygen, which leads to more anaerobic respiration and thus more lactic acid, etc. It becomes a feedback loop and eventually you lose all ability to use those muscles until the pressure is reduced. For obvious reasons, your body doesn't want this to happen, and your pain receptors start firing like crazy to tell you to stop.
Science, very cool! 🤓
Just watching this gave me arm pump. While I've never experienced it on my bike, I'm pretty sure it's the same feeling I get after swinging a hammer too long. That sounds terrifying on a trail like this.
yeah fingers and palms tend to get crampy, its not a good feeling xD :D
When I started riding a year ago, among the multitude of challenges I faced was one I didn’t expect - arm pump and hand fatigue. Obviously I was way too tense and holding too tight, and the problem has mostly disappeared now, but I expect to get reacquainted with the problem when I ride LOTS soon. Martha’s looks like a harder, longer version of Squirrels. 1,500m of descent in 30 minutes is 100m every 2 minutes. That’s some crazy sustained descent.
And it's sustained ROUGH too. LotS non-stop is a green circle compared to this non-stop haha.
@@DaleStone have you tried raising your levers up more towards parallel to the ground? Pretty much eliminates arm pump as it forces the heels of your palms to bear the force of gravity on the cockpit and not having to reach downward stops the contraction of your forearm as your finger reaches/squeezes the levers. Free fix that’s worth a try at least!
Edit: reputable sources:
ruclips.net/video/074PS_hMkTE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/7YHDpunS4yQ/видео.html
Good suggestion, I've tried pointing them up further and further, but there becomes a point where the tight wrist angle leads to less happy nerves. A careful balance, and thankfully it takes more than a vertical kilometer to get any pump. 🙂
@@DaleStone I thought the same at first, except for me over time I realized I was just hyper aware of the angle change. The benefit of hands pushing more on the bars has helped me become way more fluid even in traversing and climbing/rolling.
Just found your channel, subscribed. Great footage.
That looks like a pretty legit BC black tech trail. And "all-day" kind of trail for me!
Looks so good man. Been on my to do list for awhile
Unbelievable! Spectacular trails 🤟😍🤙
That was such an Epic ride! almost 3 videos in 1. That is totally might type of trail but "hell no" to going up on peddle power ... that is definitely a shuttle trip otherwise call the ER now :)
Nice, a follow some of those mountain bike rides on different channels, but this was one hella rocky trail. I can feel that hand/palm cramp pain. When i drive my road bike without suspensions on slightly bumpy path, sometimes pain becomes unreal, and because my bike does not have suspensions its even worse for me :D talking about hardcore cycling :D
Almost exactly a year ago! What an absolute chunker.
These kind of trails I love it
For some reason, I found the slow speed crash at 32:20 to be uncommonly funny. Watched it several times and can't quite figure out why it is so hilarious. Maybe the slow balletic dismount followed by abrupt header into the snow / tree base and then a moment of stillness. Hahaha !!
So good, can't believe I waited until now to post that gem. 🙂
Wow absolutely incredible 👌👌👌
Stunning view
Looks wonderful. How unusual is a 30 minute trail - almost 100% downhill? Do you shuttle to the top?
Most do, we did not! 💪📈
@@DaleStone always crank up the hills!
I read about the quadricept tendinopathy thing and the cause was overuse of the quadricepts and judging by this video this trail would definitely do that lmao
Congrats on your 10k followers
Thanks! Gonna give away this YT I found as celebration. 😉
Man, I live in Hood River, Oregon on the Columbia river and this is again, a reminder of just how spoiled-easy-low to no chunk-pure smooth dirt most of the trails in this area are !! But a day-worthy descent this trail is !! Have a broke left thumb I had to wait 20 days to have set n pinned .. trippling the down time .. when rains just made for epic "tack alert" conditions here .. but I'm just .. 'twittling my thumbs' .. dreamin of tail time .. watchin vids like yours. what settings do you use ? I got a gopro 8 n cannot get rid of the white-out ground patch when riding in the doug firs on a sunny day. Keep changing settings according to some of the utube mtn bikers setting but with not much luck. Garth hardin on utube to see some local trails n richter fun easy jump trails here in Hood !! Ride Jump or Wither !!
Hard to conquer patchy sunlight conditions with any equipment!
I gotta check that out one day. That trail must Have taken so long to build
Must have been years with how short the season is!
Great video! You should try using 4k 30fps with the gopro. I found the image to be a lot clearer on RUclips, and the 30fps gives a better sense of speed.
Agreed that 60fps looks slower, but it often brings out a lot more detail and sharpness. Trade-offs!
mint as always
The image quality so good I can only image how good this video looks before it gets put through the compressive butthole that is RUclips video compression.
🚮
@21:35 I rode by this a few weeks ago and saw a tent in my peripheral, I see now thats incorrect lol
Im going to Revelstoke end of this month. This is one of the trails we are hitting. Any advice? Sounds like just take in the actual breaks and rest arms???
Shuttle it... Haha.
@@DaleStone ha noted. Trip includes shuttling so at least there's that
What action camera are you using? :) Beautiful trail btw
Hero 8
Hope you've fully recovered from your injury. Any tips to avoid quadricep tendonitis?
Supplemental strength training, stretching, knowing when to take a rest day, and actually taking it...
@@DaleStone Thanks, will keep this in mind! Have a great day ahead
Arm pump is weird. I experience it every time I go rock climbing, Haven't had it while biking yet!
Have you ever thought about trying, Jack the Ripper in Pemberton?
It's on the list, hopefully this year! 👀
*me at the beginning of the video* damn, this place looks sick!
*me 60 seconds later* damn, I’m exhausted. Why can’t I feel my hands?!
Great video! One big question: could you give more info about your injury created by the long and sustained descent? Thanks! How could it have been avoided?
Classic overuse injury, just pushed over the edge by a big effort like this. Supplemental strength training, knowing when to take rest days, and actually taking them would have solved it! 🙂
@@DaleStone thanks!
@@DaleStone I have also developed quadriceps tendinopathy and have been doing exercises at home that I transferred from my physio sessions. Would you be able to provide me with the exercises that seem to work for you in both strengthening and in alleviating pain? Thanks!
Stretching is your best friend for pain management. Too many exercises to list for strengthening haha. Lunges, wall squats, jumping... Good luck!
Thanks, Dale. It’s been a couple years with this thing. Any and all assistance is appreciated.
That looks like my kinda track!
Superb! Booked marked on my Trailforks
I swear BC is mtb heaven!
True!
Ive been binge watching and binge watching, buddy... can you please bolt your gopro on your buddies helmet and point it backwards so we can se you doing some riding?
A cool idea!
Nice video! You mind sharing your camera, mount, gimbal setup?
Camera on helmet, nothing special!
I’m just a kid tying to get into mountain biking. What do you think is the best way to as a kid ?
Get out there and ride as much as you can!
how do you get to top of trail? do you use heli biking service?
Pedalled up for three hours! 📈
Keep it up ❤
Damn if you climbed all the way to the top of that you have my respect ✊🏿
Aww you said you were gonna post it. Rad! Cheers - Normalpersonbikecheck
Of course!
Beauty
Try riding up then going down it. A hard day but worth it. The top half is more interesting than the bottom....
We did! It made for an epic day no doubt.
@@DaleStone Ok -Just like me - you likely said -I need and XC Bike on the way up and a DH on the way down! Keep up the good work!
@dale Stone - What kind of bicycle do you use? Can you share the name and model ?
A 160mm/150mm one!
No Strava link? Wanna see your stats!
It's out there if you can find it! 🤫
The camera holds the shot so steady that it looks like a PlayStation rally game... Specially with that 'painted' backdrop...
Its summer here in NZ... so 2 weeks of torrential downpour at the mo... sigh
Is it just me or is your cam going from blurry to clear every few seconds? Good vid tho! Keep sending!
That's a buffering issue on RUclips's end, happens occasionally on your end.
@@DaleStone Thats sad. Any way I can fix that?
💸💸💸
First seven minutes: Hit every feature
After seven minutes: Avoid every feature...
By the end of the day, play "Find the one bolt that didn't shake loose"
My poor poor bike and body. 😆
@@DaleStone suggested music... 'Shake Rattle & roll".
You become Italian by the end of it... "Sorassio"
Insane trail! Tho that creaking sound was not nice..
Bike less happy than hands haha.
whats that rattling noise?
My poor, poor body.
which camera is that
8 black
@@DaleStone really , if you record in 60fps then you are not filming in superview , right .
Superview too!
am i the only one cause im only look to the nature around him lol
Is it just me or is this guys camera quality absolutely rediculous?
Hi m8! Whats with all the creeking/rattling sound coming of you bike in this vid!? Usually i domt hear it this much in your videos!?
Given you ride pretty rocky stuff most times, this shouldent make more sounds then normal?
Great content, im soooo damn jelous of where you live, god damnit! Perhaps time to just sell everything i own, wife included, and just buy me a house and a new bike and live life as supposed to??!
Pz
Dusty trails put too much dust into my headset bearings, oh well haha.
im having parkinson after watching this........
🙈
Dale, your videos are great but please turn down the in-camera sharpening. It's just so dreadful.
It's as low as it can go my dude. 👉👉
@@DaleStone maybe it's the highlights mixed with youtubes 4k 60p vp9 compression or something. my 4k 30p footage looks way less sharp. Very interesting
Too rocky… F that