Hear how DIFFERENT Killers sounded at first | Iron Maiden Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Iron Maiden's second studio album Killers brought the band worldwide attention and popularity. We do know for sure that at least some of the songs from Killers were written by Steve Harris and the crew significantly earlier, and thus let's compare the earliest available versions of the songs from Killers to the ones which Iron Maiden released on the studio version in 1981.
We will take a look at such songs as:
Iron maiden - Purgatory
Iron Maiden - Another Life
Iron Maiden - Wrathchild
Iron Maiden - Drifter
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - The evolution
03:03 - Verdict
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Genghis Khan
Prodigal Son. Wasn't always that way, but the years have made me grow a bit soft🥴
Killers is my fav song on the Killers album :)
That would be either 'Murders in the Rue Morgue' or the song that wasn't on the album (but on the other side of the Wrathchild single) 'Twilight Zone'.
There's no fav, all the album has... Its own feeling, smoky nocturn and powerful
Paul
Dianno was so good, he gave Maiden a fresh and a rebel sound that was simply perfect for their music
Yeah. I managed to come across a concert of theirs with their previous singer Dennis Wilcock on the RUclips. Of course it's not a good quality recording, but still, one sees how Paul Di'Anno was a massive improvement who brought the band before.
Absolutely love the first two Iron Maiden albums, Paul's vocals are amazing, crazy dynamics and energy... I'd say that's punk with metal sound 🤘
I like Bruce, but the first two albums will always be my favorite. Back then, a lot of punks liked Iron Maiden and it was one thing the punks and metalheads could agree on.
NWOBHM was born out of Punk.
@@stephenbrown4211 so....?)
Their first two albums were as punk as metal got...or as metal as punk got...either way they are glorious
@@AndriiVozniak well you wouldn’t understand the British music scene in the late seventies otherwise you wouldn’t ask that
Killers is still my favorite Maiden record. Start to finish it just kicks ass
When I tell people that it's Never been out of my top 2 some people look at me side eye.
Best Iron maiden album...non stop rocking songs !
Just proves how important tempo is in songwriting. The original tunes sounded like hard rock, and the final product was metal.
Those two genres are so close! And Maiden basically was a bit more aggressive Purple in the end.
Wrathchild had a Black Sabbath sound at first which isn’t surprising given Black Sabbath’s influence on 70s metal bands
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!
Thought the same too!
You mean given Black Sabbath's influence on EVERY good metal band.
Or that they used the same record producer, Martin Birch, who did Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules
@@TommyHarrison it has more of a pre-Dio Sabbath bloody sabbath era feel
Those early shows from the Di'anno era are really something else. No wonder they blew everyone away. Excellent musicianship.
The Clive drum speed sounds so faster like a proto thrash
I believe Clive was the most underrated drummer that existed. He was straightforward with the upbeat tempo that neither Nicko, nor any Judas Priest drummer could duplicate. It's really a shame what happened to him. Would have liked to hear him in another band before his time had elapsed...
Theres some good recordings of him in samson and a band called gogmagog that also has dianno in
@@Keefy0558 thanks. Didn't know he was in Samson.
Totally agree. He really was the magic ingredient. When you listen to stuff before and after him it just sounds like they're not firing on all cylinders. Given his departure from the band, I always rue the fact that he didn't contact AC/DC. That was about the same time that they parted with Phil Rudd.
Judas Priest played that kind of beat way before maiden .
But as they were brummie and Older , Priest were more gritty and Priest is a funky band .
Even when they were fast , it was back beat groove .
Maiden was more above the beat
@@NissardpertugiuI agree with you about Priest being older. Their drummers were pretty much with them to keep a steady beat while Glen & Ken went off & on playing their solos. They were great doing that. Maiden were pretty much a three guitar band, as Steve was as as upfront as their guitarists were. That's why they really needed a more upbeat drummer like Clive. Nicko was good, but he didn't have the energy that his predicessor did. Thanks for the comment..
So weird yet cool to hear this. Sounds like a 70's prog rock band. It amazes me how Steve went through this musical journey before they even recorded their first album.
Killers is much heavier and better than Iron Maiden's first album. But back to the subject of this video, Clive Burr's drumming is the main difference between the older versions of these songs and the Killers versions - he supercharged them. One of the greatest metal drummers ever.
The first album would have sounded better if Martin Birch would have produced that one, too.
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Definitely.
Killers is a great album. Once The Ides of March starts you know what you're in for. Love every song. All eras of Maiden are great but there is nothing like the raw energy of the Di'Anno era. And because he was only on 2 full-length albums it makes early Maiden even more classic. Killers just flows from beginning to end. All the songs rule but if I had to pick only one I would take the title track. Up the Irons!!
The title track. The classic lyric, "You walk through the subway his eyes burn a hole in your back", often gets stuck in my head, probably because it is just so "killer".
Naw naw you gotta really lean into the ck in back, almost saying backch haha
Jokes aside i completely agree
@@Boxttell11 Yup! Ha-ha!
Hard to pick a favorite off this one, but I will submit that “Prodigal Son” is criminally underrated.
absolutely...when compared to everything they've written before and after, it's a standalone piece. Love it.
The first two Iron Maiden albums are their best ones IMO.
Dude Paul was a legend man
Even though they are really REALLY good from beginning to the end, and it’s mostly impossible to pause them in between the first and the last song, I find the end of the early days their best period. Songs have a much better structure and riffs are so sharp… Somewhere in Time is my favorite, I think it’s the album that shows the best of Adrian Smith talent
They definitely went through different periods of types of songwriting. I can’t find a favorite for the first 4 albums. One of the first concerts I ever saw was them on the Piece of Mind tour. Just my opinion but between that and Powerslave (which was also an amazing concert tour) they hit their stride
For me piece of mind best followed by the first 2.
Nah piece of mind and number of the beast are the 2 best Iron Maiden albums
Drifter has to be my fave. The guitars ringing, bass marching and Clive with that swing. Paul Di’anno had the perfect sound for these tunes. His input can’t be understated but at the same time he was blessed to know these guys for those few years.I first heard them around ‘82 Killers on vinyl changed my musical path!
Early Maiden is the perfect fusion of entire 70s British rock scene. They had all the traits of UFO, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, Sabbath, Priest, Motörhead. Plus they also had punky guitar sound and of course,vocal style thanks to Dianno. They had clear progressive influences as well like King Crimson and Pink Floyd.
1982 saw Iron Maiden. One Epic show. Still rocking in 2021. ✌️😎
As many agree Di'anno was unique and perfect for those albums. And Bruce...well perfect for the rest...how lucky can we be as fans to have that. But my favorite off Killers would have to be Wrathchild. It's just too iconic and has transcended generations. The rest of the album is well a masterpiece as many Maiden album are. By the way, holy crap, great job on finding those old versions!!!
I was listening to it on Boxing Day and I feel it's the best record they made. The dynamic vocals of Paul DiAnno playing off the break neck drumming of Clive Burr gave it a hardcore punk aggression that laid the template for thrash.
Definitely.
Yeah man killers is definitely a different listen then other maiden albums
I've always felt a bands first album or two has some of their best work; Killers is no exception! Murders in the Rue Morgue was always the favorite.
I briefly met Paul at a pub in Tottenham. He sang a couple of his Maiden songs with the then working band Dirty Deeds, where the bass player is now in KK's Priest. I also met Steve there, but in a separate occasion. He was just there for a drink. 😊
What were they like?
Sounds like a cool pub to hang out at 😎
There was another guy in Deeds as well... his name is Richie and he sure knows how to play some Priest tunes as well ;)
Floating (Purgatory) in its first iteration sounds a lot like "Showdown" by Thin Lizzy. It's got that same funk-esque groove to it, with the wah-wah and everything. Makes total sense too, since that track (Showdown) was on the album "Nightlife" released in 1974, just 3 years before.
one could never guess this by only hearing the final version of purgatory :) amazing how the song evolved
Hands down my favorite Maiden album 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 Great video!!
"Murders In The Rue Morgue" and "Genghis Khan" are my favorites. The first 2 albums are great!
This is Iron Maiden's best album!
An opinion. To me it will always be ssoass
@@user-gu3ie I'd say TNotB, SiT and Powerslave are better than Killers or the self-titled. But that's just an opinion as well.
As for me any album with Bruce, except maybe the 90s ones are better that the two with Paul. I can go even further and say The X Factor is more honest and authentic than those fast almost meaningless albums.
@@belshazzarsf3ast I think I've got a personal feeling towards seventh son,because it was an album that my dad gave me when I was very little..always loved the cover,and especially songs like the clairvoyant,seventh son and only the good die young I played until my eyes bled.
But I have to agree with you ... x factor is by unpopular opinion an album that's sonically amazing! Even tho virtual x scored much lower.
Never heard these early Maiden clips before-wow it makes me really appreciate how quickly they evolved into the band we all know and love. Up the Irons!
probably my favourite maiden album. theres a dark vibe to it that i love. plus that cover. got it framed on my wall :)
Just like all of these videos , the conclusion is the same... Thank God for Clive Burr!
What a gem is a vid. Thanks for putting it together.
Clive Burr was so criminally underrated as a drummer. I 100% prefer his drumming over Nicko McBrain's.
Nicko hasn't improved or grown in nearly 40 years..
Listen to Seventh Son. If you don’t headbang or have a nasty face, you’re tasteless.
I used to feel like Clive Burr played a marching band style of drumming on those first 3 Iron Maiden records. Just lightning fast flams on high-hats, snare and toms. Especially on Ghengis Khan. Sounds awesome and Nicko McBrain never could capture the groove and feel of Clive’s drum parts from the get go. Completely different style of drumming. It would have been great if Clive Burr would have joined Black Sabbath in the mid 1980s.
I'm a guitarist not a drummer so I may not understand everything, but Nicko's fills are much more pleasing to my ears, and I prefer the way Nicko hits the snare. Am I missing something due to the poorer production of the first albums?
@@simonfoenander1874 When you start at a really high level that's not easy to do. The more important thing is not getting worse, or with age, not getting worse at a quick rate.
Saw the KILLERS tour . They opened for Priest. Next time around with Bruce opening for Scorpions. It was like 2 separate but great bands. The first tour had a slightly punk feel to it. Then Bruce had the range that took it to a new level . You could tell they were gonna be a top metal act. Met them right after Gers joined and they were all super friendly and willing to answer lame questions from a star struck young fan.
Lucky you!
The thing about Maiden is the under lining vibe was that the band was always evolving, even in downtime.
Definitely, Di,Anno brought that punk vibe that was lurking around England at the time that produced some great punk bands from that era.
However, Di' Anno really shines as a bluesy almost sad story teller singer in ballad mode.
Just listen to the wave that comes over him on "Strange World".
I can listen to that song over and over again.
Everything is right in it's place and the beautiful guitar tones are just heavenly.
Clive reminds me of a productionist similar to Bill Ward's atmospheric playing on Plant Caravan, but more supportive that spacious.
It's a most underrated song.
wow, awesome that these early recordings exist, nice video!
Killers is definitely my favorite album of all time, Bonded By Blood and Killing Is My Business following it closely. It'd be hard to pick a favorite track since every one is just so good, but if I had to pick one I'd probably pick Murders in the Rue Morgue
They should have done one more album with Paul.
@@mrmaxaxl As much as that would've been nice it just wasn't in the cards due to Paul being self destructive, but it would be pretty cool to see him in a new sort of incarnation of Number of the Beast (Especially since the album cover fit Paul more than Bruce)
I see your not a fan of albums with a lot of production.
@@mikegraphone2736 If you'd want to know, my next two favorite albums are Welcome to Hell and Overkill.
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Killers has a great production - Killing In My Business has a terrible production. Bonded By Blood is somewhere in between.
Prodigal Son is my favorite. It has one of the most beautiful guitar solos of all rime.
It is a beautiful guitar solo indeed, sounds quite different for Maiden, almost a hint of psychedelia going on if you know what I mean.
Same opening chords as Fractured mirror on Ace Frehley 1978 solo alvum
I love Killers. Is one of my personal favourites in the Maiden catalog. Is more raw and heavy than the first record.
I could listen to those first two albums all day, every day.
Awesome video. I've never heard Dennis Wilcock singing before. Also very interesting to hear their sound back then and how different it became in just a few years.
I played drums at a gig with Dennis Willcock and Terry Wapram in 2015 on a sort of reunion thing. It was fun even if a bit rough round the edges. There's a video of it on RUclips the band was called GV1.
Interesting to hear those early recordings of the songs. Very cool
I think Killers together With Seventh Son to be the best Iron Maiden albums ever.
Saw both those tours and I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Can't fault that.👍
@@69mosshead I think number would have been much more aggressive with DiAnno... Dickinson is a great, great vocalist, no doubt, but Paul had something more aggressive. In the end Killers is a wonderful work with DiAnno, Seventh is my fav woth Dickinson, amd Bruce is the best singer for more progressive stuff...
@@GrampsD63 Lucky you 😍😍😍
Seventh Son is when Maiden began playing boring prog metal and they've never gotten back to writing kick-ass metal since.
Thanks for putting this together, some great new information for a fan from 1986.
Love anything Iron Maiden. Need more options for merch, love the T-Shirt.
Great stuff bro!
Excellent analysis 🤘
Purgatory my favorite track from Killers.
No offense to Bruce, but I wish Paul could've hung in there for another album or two. He had such a great distinctive voice, great range but with bluesy-grit. Sometimes Bruce's voice is too operatically pretty. Pretty impossible to choose a favorite, the whole album kicks ass. Bringing Adrian in really tightened up all the arrangements and took Maiden to the next level.
I agree. The only thing w/ Paul, besides his substance abuse issues, is that I don't think his epic early voice holds up very long. It had a short shelf life (see Anselmo, Phil) that makes you feel sorry for the guy once he's a shell of his former self. Opera lasts much longer.
Thanks for posting, amazing to hear these old versions. Wrathchild sounded like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Purgatory sounded like reggae. I bet Steve has some better quality tapes around, it would be great if these demos could see the light of day at some point.
You know which channel I think is super underrated? Metal Piano Music. The guy spends weeks composing classic metal songs into classical/relaxing piano pieces and he hardly gets any views. I love his arrangement of The Sentinel by Judas Priest. That dude deserves millions of followers
I didn't know those ancient versions even existed... now I must go find them and listen, mainly to hear how the other drummers sounded on specific sections where I've always thought Clive was particularly brilliant. It would be interesting to know if the drums were already "exactly like that" before Clive. Great video!
I loved Maiden’s first 2 albums. I discovered them on the Piece of Mind album and then worked my way backwards and I absolutely loved Paul’s vocals. They were more punk back then with Paul. Both versions of the band are killer!
I remember a kid in art class did massive painting of cover, Damn I wanted that
My favorite song on Killers is probably Purgatory, because of the way the guitar harmony drives the song. Interestingly about the punk influence, the first time I heard The Offspring back in the mid-90s because all of my military buddies were into them, my immediate response was, "Wow, they sound like the first two Maiden albums!" Funny how things go around...
Indeed Offspring are an unique band, the only punk band I really appreciate, having the heavy metal Energy when they need to...It is like hearing sex pistols when genres were not so standardized and had similarities which music Industry nowadays deleted
@@andrealecismusic4328 Offspring were from Orange County, California, near where I'm from, and I remember a lot of those SoCal punkers were total metalheads growing up.
Also a big influence on slash from guns and roses.
The Offspring......... 🤮🤮🤮
@@chilly6470 I'm not saying I'm the Offspring's no.1 fan; I'm just saying how I remember them sounding back in the day. During this era I was listening to stuff like At the Gates and Dissection, just to show where I was at.
The most PERFECT Maiden album... can't pick 1 fave
Great review and thanks for sharing the early days sounds again. I think so little is said though about how Doug Sampson changed Maiden and is responsible for so many of the great drumming patterns we heard all the way up to Killers. Doug is an absolute gent too.
Some of the Killers songs are older than some of the songs on the first album
Love the album! Definitely one of Maiden's best, and one of the best album covers in metal. Can't pick a favourite track though. They're all equal parts of the listening experience for me.
KILLERS MY FAVORITE and the new is one of there Best since the 80s. Long LIVE ROCK MY FRIEND'S
Killers tour was my first concert , maiden opened for U.F.O. in Long Beach California.
As one of Maiden’s first American fans, I must say, those first two albums are near & dear. Even more near & dear is the original DRIFTER EP which came out prior to the first album. Featured Sanctuary & the live Drifter track. This is why I consider myself one of America’s first Maiden fans. I was on board immediately after hearing PHANTOM OF THE OPERA on WNHU’s “Metal Night” here in Connecticut. I taped that hour long show on cassette. Also was introduced to KROKUS & RIOT that night. The following day I presented the song to my fellow band mates saying “you guys gotta hear this”! Next day went to buy the debut with Phantom on it & the record store guy said the only thing he had was this Drifter EP. The following week the debut was in the store.
As one of the first humans on earth... Nevermind I can't keep a straight face typing this hahahaha
Was Sanctuary on the A side of the EP with Drifter and I've Got The Fire on the B side? It's just that here in England there was no Drifter EP but we did have the affore mentioned ( with the picture of Maggie Thatcher on the cover.)
@@fezhat7096 after rifling through some old pics I am sure that’s the one. It has a black upper right corner.
Love this video ! I remember seeing old Priest and how different they sounded in the 70's compared to their 80's sound....looks like both Maiden and Priest were forming their own sound. In the beginning both sounded like their influences a lot. Would love to see a video about Priest's evolution ! Дякую щиро !
I really love Maidens early albums!
Harris’s early bass playing was angry, nasty and really punk!
Great vid with great clips I've not heard before, thanks! I like the '79 version of wrathchild verse with the added leads, where's that from please?
Thanks man. Is it the Metal for Muthas clip you're referring to?
@@MetalPilgrim thanks- the one at 2.14
I have all iron maiden albums my favorite band of all time
'77 Wrathchild sounds like a Black Sabbath tune.
It sounds like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Very well put together video! I was at the Rainbow gig in 1980 and Drifter was my fav song from this album! First album was heavier but the second album was better musically.
I saw Maiden opening for Priest on the Point Of Entry/Killers tour in Albany, NY in 1981 and then on the Screaming For Vengeance/Number Of The Beast tour in Glens Falls, NY in 1982. Fucking awesome shows 🤘
My absolute favorite metal band, #1!!! Something happened after Seventh Son.
That's pretty much where I stop.
Clive Burr had those Buddy Rich crazy speed rolls the guy was amazing!
Brilliant video - first two albums were awesome, just like the rest
i seen the tour with priest and maiden in 81,total kick ass,they played the tower theater in philly.i was 15 years old.
Those 1977 recordings sound like a reggae band.
Clive Burr was the man!!! RIP Clive!! One of my biggest inspirations
My favorite has always been Murders in the Rue Morgue, but I love the whole album. I think its Maiden's most under-rated album (at least of the 80's stuff).
I'm a big fan of Killers and I never heard those earlier sounds, so THANK YOU for sharing!! The harder sound was definitely the way to go. More punch, less UFO. Cheers....
UFO is WAY better than any Maiden
The early stuff sounds (can we be honest?) like punk music. Understandably, punk played its part in NWOBHM, but it’s clearly evident in the early Maiden stuff. DiAnno had that punk feel with his vocals, a ragged approach that Diamond Head and even early Def Leppard had, but more or less disappeared with Dickinson’s arrival.
Even Bruce was like that , he sang much abrasive before Maiden , even though he re adopted that in 1990.
But take Me as your leader or Hammerhead by Samson , its punk too .
@@Nissardpertugiu you’re so right! The NWOBHM had a lot of the “punk” mindset behind it, insomuch that there was much crossover with punk and metal (more than some in either camp would admit to.
Those sort of bridges in purgatory makes me just awe man
The sound they got from thin Lizzy . Before you all hate on me twin lead was Lizzy . Paul de anno well each to his own I'm 45 this year maiden shaped my life . Them and slayer , sepultura.
These demos are cool cause it shows you how they actually feel the melodies and rhythm. They have always had such a 70's proggy swing to their riffs and groove
Fun Fact:
If you are at an Iron Maiden gig pre-show, and hear "Doctor, Doctor" by UFO on the PA, get to your seats.
Tradition.
Yeah Iron Maiden are my favorite metal band of all time, I loved the first two albums with Paul Diano, these songs really transformed before Paul. Iron maiden and killers are classics , my favorite albums are number of the beast, piece of mind, power slave, somewhere in time. Absolutely phenomenal band from the beginning.
Their first two albums were before my time. I didnt gwt into Maiden until 1981 or so when they got popular over here in the states. Being a bass player I was instantly hooked on steve harris style of playing. I got Iron Maiden and Killers around 83 or so and it is still my favorite. They are like Kill Them All for metallica. I'm learning guitar now love Dave and Adrian.
I saw them in 81 & 82 with Priest at the Palladium and Madison Square Garden.
The MSG show was with Dickenson
I have this album on vinyl love it
Killers was first album by Maiden I've ever heard. In the time when metal was still forged it sounded great. I don't remember any punk rocker associated himself with Maiden, moreiver...Gosh! I've heard of that punk crap, hair metal, "Pantera's Power Metal is glam metal", "W.A.S.P. was glam metal" "Black Metal was rooted in crust punk", ...only after youtube!!!! Killers is heavy metal af!!!
Loved those 2 albums, especially the first, 2nd was great too..so many memories,
Definitely improved the sound of those old songs BIG time!
The first one and Killers are by far the best albums...
The origins, to today, are what makes Maiden an iconic band. You need to listen to the earlier versions, and see who the influences of that era were? Especially in Britain. There were definitely hints of punk, as well as Sabbath in their club days. I love how the band formed around all of the member shifting. They have a trademark sound. Listen to different modern songs, and with some, you can hear the Maiden influences.
[That was so cool to hear those super early versions. They just needed to get that optimal lineup for those 2 records and also those Spinal Tap amps that went to 11.]
absolutely crazy with Iron Maiden. From a child years, thanks to my dad)
What I find telling is that the earlier versions of the songs still sound absolutely BRILLIANT! A good song will always stand on its own merit. Up the Irons!
Killers was always my favorite song off of Killers
Great perspective on an exceptional album. I remember when Killers came out. It really put heavy metal on a new course.
I read about Maiden in magazines but I didn’t know anyone who I could borrow a tape from to listen to them. At the time I was in a record store and I was going to buy either Signals from Rush or Killers. The album cover did it for me. Any band that has a cover like that HAD to have music I would be into. It was my intro into metal......and I never looked back.....although I did eventually get the Signals album years later after diving deep into all the metal that was available at the time.
Killers is probably my favorite Maiden album. It's tough to pick a favorite song. I'd probably say Murders In The Rue Morgue. The rest of the album would tie for a close second place!
Cool, haven't ever heard the original versions🥇🤘🥇
You have got to bear in mind those very early recordings were raw with very little production in the studio.Would have sounded great live in a small club.To me IM became a superb studio band but that live rawness on stage was too polished out by 1980. One of the few bands I prefered on vinyl rather than on stage.On the other hand Mororhead were great on vinyl and best on stage.
Are you serious??
I was hoping to find a comment like this. You are 100% correct
Yes, exactly - those old clips don't have any production quality, so it's a tough comparison. Even Motorhead got better studio production over the years. :-)
Bruce may be an air raid siren, but Lemmy is God. Rock on!
Killers is absolutely amazing. Right from the get go in The Ides of March it just melts your face off and then never lets up.