I take Berberine because it's cheaper than paying the Co pays to see a doctor who won't prescribe me metformin anyway because my A1c is 5.2 but I am insuline resistant and have PCOS. I can track side effects of supplements myself, I order and take blood test myself to look for results. I don't take any prescriptions so no interference there. Doctors I can see are limited because our insurances limits who you can see. Most of these doctors look at me like I'm talking way over their head if I want to discuss metabolic health past standard A1c , blood pressure, and how a standard lipid panel looks. So it leaves people like me to educate themselves, get blood work through on line lab companies, and then try to make a safe choice on lifestyle changes and supplements based on those results. Nothing annoys me more than paying a doctor/ nurse practitioners and I'm having to teach them . Doesn't leave much confidence in providers.
Good doctors are out there, not easy to find but out there. As Consumers WE can insist on better physicians, that the physicians have a better ability to be better physicians, ie less stress on pushing pharmaceuticals, better access to modalities that are proven to work - imagine if a GP could prescribe a gym membership! Imagine if a doctor could more easily CHECK up on patients if they feel its needed and they get supported by the system. As Consumers I wonder what WE could achieve if we UNITED in some many many hundreds of ways, tribe up and BE HEARD. Do it any way you wish to but tribe up somehow. Andre
@@LobsterMobility I'm sure they are. But most people don't have the financial opportunity to go seek them out and are stuck with doctors within their insurance group. FOR EXAMPLE God help you if you have Kaiser... I doubt you will ever find one there and several million people have no choice but to go there. If you belong to an insurance you're most likely have to find a doctor in that network which greatly limits your ability to find a good metabolic health doctor. Doctors working within Networks are going to do as they're told by the network. They're not going to offer you more in depth care. Hospital groups they work for don't make money that way. Health care is a money making game unfortunately
Some peoples' experience: Yeah, after taking Metformin, I felt the the affects on my heart and stopped after a day or two and that was in my early 30s. Now Berberine has helped my heart and I can feel the difference. Both being pretty apparent. Berberine is a way better choice than Metformin. What’s interesting is that I have been taking bio-available Berberine 500mg 2X per day. I have literally not been sick with even a cold whatsoever since I’ve been taking it daily for over a year
@@CherylAshley-th8sb That was a quote from someone.... And if you say any brand the censor bots will pounce on you, but I have no idea what brand that person was using.
Dr. Brewer's and his team's meta-analysis are superb. The problem, for me, is the feeling that since I've been mislead by the AHA and ADA, et. al., for my entire life, how do I trust these doctors who are still under the "control" (respectfully) of outside factors. I believe doctors really want to help. I'm not a conspiracist. But until we can untangle medicine from money, I'm only going to trust those medical professionals I've vetted You are one of those doctors.
Your use of low dose statins to reduce inflammation is well known and makes sense. Now that the study has come out on the use of low dose colchicine to reduce inflammation and reduce CV events risk by upto 30% can you do a future video on this please? The study uses Colchicine AND statins together. There have been suggestions that low dose Cochicine alone may be a better option to low dose statins.
So I have another point of view on this, just for information and disclosure in the Buren industry or any other industry like that. I was taking both berberine and metformin and my A1c dropped to 5.1 and it was consistently 5.1. Finally, my doctor said I don’t want that low so he took me off of Met Forman, and then lo and behold. I just got tested this last month or actually this month, and just been taking 1200 mg of berberine, and Buy A1c is 4.9. I think that’s rather interesting. You.
In 2013 I took my 81 year old type 2 diabetic father to a urologist because he was having bladder issues. The specialist looked over my father's meds and immediately ordered that he remove Metformin from his medication protocol. As it was linked to Bladder Cancer. My father died of Bladder Cancer later that year. Has the link of Metformin to bladder cancer changed since 2013?
I keep seeing these types of videos about Berberine being compared one on one with a different med, but only for one variable. They say well Berberine does X but Med does X 10% better. However, Berberine seems to improve 10 different variables at the same time. I would rather give up the 10% for multiple improvement but only from one substance instead of all the meds it’s being compared to.
That was my view. Several pharma drugs address a variety of issues, yet Berberine seems to address multiple issues on its own. I'm not on any medications, and I'm not taking berberine, but I do take some supplements. My concern is I want to understand if berberine is safe.
I am a healthcare provider also , and I take Berberine for the glycemic and anti inflammatory effect it has , and I can tell you that it’s much less expensive than Metformin . I am not sure where Jesus is getting his info on pricing on Metformin , probably in Mexico it’s less , but herein US it’s not , first of all a patient needs a prescription that costs money , and then you have to get it filled from a pharmacy where you will have a copay . Depending on which type and group of insurance you have , it’s more money in a month than month supply of Berberine . Berberine here costs about 15 dollars for a whole bottle in Texas . Also I find it interesting that Dr Ford is presenting a schewed attitude toward Berberine VS Metformin . Berberine works , period . Also I am a follower of Dr Ford , but I think his perception here is alittle biased towards Metformin . We can look at high doses of both and they will both have an adverse effect profile as with all substances . The other thing is that Dr Bikman is tremendously credible in his presentations , ie Molecular and Cell Biology , He is at the front line of these studies because he’s actually doing them and publishing . Something that Dr Ford, colleagues , and myself are not doing or seeing . Great presentation as usual , really triggers more dialogue and begs for more questions to be answered . After all this is what science is about , Question and do the research . Thank you for listening Thanks guys
He's biased on Metformin along with other horrible big pharma drugs such as statins. He knows their side effects have been widely researched and confirmed, and contra many of his medical podcast peers, still pushes them.
@@jitaftwt Exactly! Prior tho the first statin coming to market, the upper limit of health total cholesterol was 300. They lowered it, then abracadabra, a drug for all those new people that were over 200. Then it was 150, then 100, now 80. US smoking rate has declined by 50%, yet CVD and events have stayed level or increased. Lowering LDL is not the answer, is based on a study that has already been admitted by the researcher as falsified because he was a vegetarian and wanted to move American diet to vegetarian. Cholesterol protects the brain, our neural network, every cell wall/membrane, boosts our immunity, and is essential to hormone regulation. Our bodies genetically determine 80% of our cholesterol levels, and increase as we get older because we need more cholesterol in older age. Its no wonder there is an epidemic of alzheimers, Parkinson, adhd, etc. For the first time in decades, US life expectancy has gone down. Due to the food and pharmaceutical industry, secondary would be the chemical/petroleum companies producing roundup, Teflon and microplastics.
Has been waiting a week for this show and was not let down! as always, very fascinating and in-depth information covering all the bases… You guys help me interact with my personal physician with the education you provide… doing God’s work thank you😊
For the past year, I've been taking 500mg of berberine 3x/day with meals. It has significantly reduced cravings for sugar and carbs. Dropped ~5 lbs. as a result, which is nice. I haven't had my lipids checked in that time, so I don't know if it has affected my cholesterol levels. Berberine was initially hard on my stomach. I had to build up a tolerance to it. But now it's fine.
A year and a half ago everything I could find pointed that Metformin counter acted weight training. Berberine did not. Weight training also helps to reduce A1c.
I don't have diabetes but my glucose has been hovering in upper 90's for a decade. I started taking berberine and it dropped it to mid 80's. Not huge I suppose but it improved. As mentioned those like me can't get metformin without script. I guess the question is..does it help to lower the glucose if not in that > 100 range.
I have a mil who suffered serious diarrhea from metformin. We tried so many other diabetes meds with really poor results, even with 20g total carbs for her diet. She’s 84, which causes people to write her off as a candidate for improvement but they don’t live with her. Also, she has successfully gotten off two bp meds, furosemide, three diabetes meds, omeprazole, lowered her fbg by 80 pts, and knocked her A1C from 6.2 to 5.3 as of almost a year ago. However, she is sliding into dementia. She is now very close to 0 carb but mostly due to food boredom. The point I’m getting to is that on 2/3 of the recommended dose of berberine, her bg benefits by about 30 points over the course of a day and seems to be the hero of fbg reduction. If we do the full three berberine caps/day she gets the diarrhea again.
Annfrailey do mct oil for dementure lady on utube dod it for her husband she was a doctor for babies,? American think Ann ,,,,,,,,,,he was an accountant er I was working with people with dementure an gave large tsp 2 times a day and it helped all of them and did cook in extra virgin certain foods small amounts only but worth a try ,
PMC 2410097 Compared with metformin, berberine exhibited an identical effect in the regulation of glucose metabolism, such as HbA1c, FBG, PBG, fasting insulin and postprandial insulin. In the regulation of lipid metabolism, berberine activity is better than metformin.
Thanks for sharing! The devil is in the details, this is a pilot study of 36 subjects, the umbrella Review studies are more powerful and involve more people, there might be research signals, but today, most evidence suggest Berberine is not as strong as metformin
I took berberine for about 6 mo at a high dosage. It worked wonderfully--lost weight, had a great A1c. But after 6 months I had a sudden occurrence of edema in my feet. I did 3 rounds of elimination and confirmed the swollen feet was the berberine. After the 3rd time of reintroducing it, I had a hard time getting the edema under control. I've not touched it since. BTW, I was also on 20 mg daily of atorvastatin.
The truth is you still have to watch what you eat taking both metformin and berberine!Diet is a lot and excercise is better.If you don’t diet and excercise after a few years your sugar becomes outrageously high!I’m 70 and have many comorbitities but force myself to excercise at least three days a week and still even taking both sometimes it’s a struggle.
Walk 30 minutes every day you wake up. There are days that are inclimate; I sit in a chair and do leg & arm exercises for 30 minutes. Also have restricted diet! No sugar, no processed foods, no white foods- bread, rice, potato, milk
I was on a Statin nearly 20 years ago, and I had to stop taking it because of muscle pain in my legs, especially. Into this day I still have that pain and it is much worse than back then. I probably only took it for a few months.
Since statins have an absolute risk reduction of ONLY 0.8% with the potential for cognitive decline leading to mild cognitive impairment, which can then become dementia, increased blood sugars, which can lead to prediabetes and type II diabetes, and if one already is diabetic, worsening diabetes, poor wound healing (due to increased blood sugars), muscle aches and pains, and tendon rupture as a registered nurse who has seen the problems of people being on statins for years thinking they are immune to these side effects is saddened anytime a doctor promotes this ugly medication that may provide some minor benefits for a short time. Still, those same doctors don't adequately provide informed consent, letting the patients know that side effects can occur at any time!
Thank you for your honest professional information. Have experienced all the side effects stated and in spite of quadruple bypass 5 yrs ago, I refuse all the statins constantly pushed on me with fear mongering. As a homeopathic practitioner, I have found so much dishonesty. Don’t believe anything they tell me anymore after 30 years of research. I am waiting for the MEDBEDS close on the horizon.
Berberine nor Metformin doesn't work too well for me. Even walking and eating only 1 - 2 meals of low carb every day have a little effect on my weight and glucose level. What really works for me to get my A1C and weight down is the stressed workout, any exercise which I have to catch my breath.
Increasd Body stress (ex: heavy workout) leads to inflammation, increased cortisol, increased blood glucose, increased insulin. You are hyperinsulin resistant. The solution is not a quick depletion of muscle glucose, the answer is to remove all carbs until your body becomes insulin sensitive again. Go back to walking, not jogging, not running, not HIIT, etc. And do 16:8 intermittent fasting progressing to 20:4 fasting. Then do OMAD, then OMEOD, Then 3 day water fast for maximizing autophagy and repairing and resetting your cells. After 3-day fast, use a video on how to resume eating after fasting. Then return to 20:4 eating without carbs. Once your fasting BG is down in the low 70s, introduce 5-10 grams of carbs of broccoli or cauliflower, see how your CGM reading goes. If you are insulin sensitive, your BG should go up less than 30 points, and should recover to baseline within 2 hours. If not, plan your next 3-day water fast, continue no carbs. If your waistline is more than half your height, you are insulin resistant.
@@mikejones4308 Well aren’t you bossy? 😂😂😂 I’m kidding! Was very nice of you to write all that out 😊 maybe though you have it saved and copy-pasted. 🤔. Still nice!
@@jitaftwta good plan and explanations all through from what I've heard most are insulin resistant and have metabolic syndrome with out knowing how don't our doctors know this about us
@@NansGlobalKitchen Plant extracts and vitamins/minerals/antioxidants etc can be encapsulated in sunflower lecithin (Phosphatidylcholine) which maximizes absorption and bioavailability allowing for smaller doses with increased effects.
What about acute kidney failure patients? My doctor took me off of metformin for this reason. "The FDA has revised warnings regarding metformin use in patients with reduced kidney function. The current labeling strongly recommends against use of metformin in patients with severe chronic kidney disease (eGFR < 30 ml/min/1.73 m2)."
It's funny; whenever Dr. Vega mentions Dr. Brewer's name, it actually sounds like he's saying "Dr. Berg." I used to think Dr. Vega was referring to Eric Berg, DC, who promotes the ketogenic diet on RUclips.
Medical school teaches the use of pharmaceuticals and repair rather than what it takes to educate the patient, asking for alternatives. Being patient as I resist the meds and introduce alternative interventions & request bloodwork with explanation of reuslts. In 3 mos of adding 1500mg Berberine and milk thistle, reduced total cholestrol level from 308 to 224 with hdl at 93 and triglyceride level at 40
I was able to take Berberine w/MCT oil gelcaps for years. I primarily took it because it really helped with heat intolerance. This year, I noticed that I was having widespread tendon/bursitis pain. It was really significant pain. So bad that I had a hard time lifting my arms to get the dishes out of the cabinet, or to even touch the stair railing without gasping. If I stopped the Berberine gelcaps, the pain would lessen significantly within the week. It would take several months for all the pain to stop. I have tried going off and on Berberine several times thinking this was in my head. Not sure what is going on.
What’s your position on Niacin? I think you used to take it but I no longer see it on your schedule. Did you stop because of the flushing? Or was it replaced with nattokinase?
What about those of us that experienced increases in fasting blood glucose while on Metformin only to see fasting blood glucose decline when off Metformin? And I also experienced severe muscle cramping while on Metformin.
I like you, but what does better meahns..... if it has the same effect that a prescription drug and less side effect, it is better.... if it is available without having to wait 1 hours for a doctor prescription, it is better... etc... you see my point...
I have an issue with Metformin... I like having a beer once in a while... but when I am on Metformin, I get drunk on one beer and I get a hangover... also I have gotten low blood sugar really bad on Metformin... Mr Dr says it doesn't do that... but I have tried this now many times with the same issues
hmm FYI after 2 TIA ,I had one of those carotid endorectemy (sic?) and have no further problems in 10+ years. i get an annual echosonargram just to be sure. Always enjoy watching your show.❤
My doctor won't give me metformin since I have one kidney(right one was removed when I was 22 due to a birth defect) even though my A1C is 6.1 even with moderate carb restriction. Evidently metformin can be hard on the remaining kidney. I am 70 yo. I am considering taking berberine.
sometime things get popular ""NOT because they are good'', but because big pharma promote them as being good... and why would they promote one of they drug as bad... Never saw a pharmaceutical promote a natural product as being as good as one of their drug..... why would they.... $$$
Im a biopathology doctor, and berberine is much safer because it doesn’t inhibit Igf1 and mtor more potently than metformin. There’s a lot of misinformation you’re spilling out that’s factually incorrect. But I respect your point of view as a doctor. Regards.
Did we watch the same show?. i heard them say get off your statin if you have a temperature or muscle pain. I also heard to use low dose statin to help with inflammation. I don't think that's pushing statins
Low dose hydrophilic statins have little in the way of side effects. They are taken more for their anti-vasculitis (anti-inflammation) effect rather than their minor LDL reduction effect.
My husband took both for awhile. Tapered him off the Metphormin, and increased his berberine. His A1c came down to normal levels. My daughter was having a lot of kidney issues on metphormine, she stopped and started on berberine and doing much better. All kidney issues have stopped.
Yes. It is commonly combined in China, where Berberine is more popular/mainstream as a treatment, and thought to have synergistic effect with each other. Also talk to your doctor and have blood sugar levels monitored, whether its a supplement or a drug. It is absolutely critical that blood sugars don't drop too low.
The only side effect I had was when I tried 1,000 twice a day it induced night mares. At 1,500 once a day I feel much better and my mood is more stable
No bad drugs or supplements, only whether or not the side effects out weigh the benefits. Also, the big one, they only work if you need them. Nutrient assays and genes tells us a lot about what is going on if we take the time to look. Burgamont causes me the same side effects as statins just takes longer to show up. Key issue with FH is APOB gene defect means I don't clear ldl so statins starve me at a cellular level that is the source of the muscle and joint pain. Unfortunately, there are no good solutions for correcting the APOB or LDLR gene polymorphisms. 85% of monogenic FH... LMHR, put anyone like me on Keto diet and you will make those observations nothing new there.
I’m considering taking berberine in conjunction with my Rapatha because Rapatha alone is not lowering my off the chart levels and I don’t like the side effect profile of Nexlizet.
I have been using berberne for years, recently as a test I went off it for a couple months. I saw increases in my blood glucose between 5 and 10 mg/dl. My background is I was a diabetic not due to weight but genetics, thalassemia induced. Changed my eating to low-carb and back to regular workouts and been able to stay just below prediabetic for the last 6 years (no insulin or metformin), when I stopped the berberine I went into the low prediabetic. I went back on the berberine I am back below, so it works for me but to your point so would metformin, and when I did take it I did not experience the side effects, I just prefer to not take metformin unless I have to.
I seen almost all those doctors and followed them haha. Also, ozempic or Ryobi gave me incredible loading that I could not get rid of until weeks after I stopped taking the medicine, but also some rands of berberine also have the same effect floating
Bloating, I’m going to stop taking Berberine to see if this helps me. I might be simply over eating, love my ribeye steaks. So in addition I’m switching to salmon for at least 10 days maybe a month. I’m also increasing my sodium intake to learn if this helps with my migraines. Every hour I’ll take 1/2 tsp from the morning to evening. Too many variables changed at the same time, I know. Thanks for the deep dive ✔️
4-6 grams (2-2.5 tsps) of table salt per day is all you need if fasting over 24 hours, otherwise, just use what you sprinkle on your food. Only need additional electrolytes if you are fasting more than 24 hours. Don't forget potassium, magnesium and calcium for that longer fasting.
Thomas DeLauer has a new video (which I’m not able to share here) but it’s on a new idea behind why we get diabetes. “Science Never saw this Coming” Newly Discovered cause of insulin resistance. Would like to know what you and your team thinks about it.
Thomas DeLauer once did a video on women’s hormones… He was so incorrect on many things that he knew nothing about. I’ve been a woman all my life of 76 years and I know a lot more than he’ll ever think he knows (and I know more than most doctors!). He is neither a doctor or researcher so his interpretations of scientific papers are automatically suspect. Read any papers or research he uses and make your own conclusions.
A very good show today. Thanks . The last question was very interesting to me, I had a central retinal artery occlusion resulting in blinding one eye. They found plaque in my carotid artery . My vascular surgeon did a carotid artery ectomy. She said I had soft sticky plaque. She cut the artery across and peeled it back like a sock and removed the plaque And stitched it back together. That is how she described it. 2018. I was on long tern Lovastatin. After that I found your channel and learned about my insulin resistance and diet and lifestyle changes I need to make. I am cab addicted and believe I am a TOFI what Dr Roy Taylor calls thin outside and fat inside, In other words have a fatty liver and pancreas. I am fairly lean but had a middle age spread which I have since lost and am working in muscle mass and HIit. I had a prediabedic diagnosis since I was 55 now 72 and my primary doc was and is still not concerned by it. All of my blood markers are in a good range now , but my HA1C has gone up. 5.7- 5.8 I have been using berberine along with lifestyle changes and testing fasting glucose and am looking forward to seeing my HA1C down to a good range,. My health care won’t test it more than once a year. Also switched my statin to low dose Crestor. Plus use niacin with breaks.
@@donnacharles7348 If you are a follower of Dr. Brewer you would that he still recommends it for secondary prevention. There are studies that show it has some benefits. I am trying to lose visceral fat to see if my prediabedic numbers go down. At some point or my metabolism improves a lot I will stop the statins. And yes I am aware that statins can cause diabetes along with niacin. So ai monitoring those closely.
^A1c = ^ IR, is your "essential hypertension " increasing? Unexplained increasing BP or true hypertension typically the first sign of insulin resistance.
I take Berberine because it's cheaper than paying the Co pays to see a doctor who won't prescribe me metformin anyway because my A1c is 5.2 but I am insuline resistant and have PCOS. I can track side effects of supplements myself, I order and take blood test myself to look for results. I don't take any prescriptions so no interference there. Doctors I can see are limited because our insurances limits who you can see. Most of these doctors look at me like I'm talking way over their head if I want to discuss metabolic health past standard A1c , blood pressure, and how a standard lipid panel looks. So it leaves people like me to educate themselves, get blood work through on line lab companies, and then try to make a safe choice on lifestyle changes and supplements based on those results. Nothing annoys me more than paying a doctor/ nurse practitioners and I'm having to teach them . Doesn't leave much confidence in providers.
Thank You that is a Big issue! Thanks for sharing!
Look at curcumin phytosomes and melatonin as well.
Good doctors are out there, not easy to find but out there. As Consumers WE can insist on better physicians, that the physicians have a better ability to be better physicians, ie less stress on pushing pharmaceuticals, better access to modalities that are proven to work - imagine if a GP could prescribe a gym membership! Imagine if a doctor could more easily CHECK up on patients if they feel its needed and they get supported by the system. As Consumers I wonder what WE could achieve if we UNITED in some many many hundreds of ways, tribe up and BE HEARD. Do it any way you wish to but tribe up somehow. Andre
@@LobsterMobility I'm sure they are. But most people don't have the financial opportunity to go seek them out and are stuck with doctors within their insurance group. FOR EXAMPLE God help you if you have Kaiser... I
doubt you will ever find one there and several million people have no choice but to go there. If you belong to an insurance you're most likely have to find a doctor in that network which greatly limits your ability to find a good metabolic health doctor. Doctors working within Networks are going to do as they're told by the network. They're not
going to offer you more in depth care. Hospital groups they work for don't make money that way. Health care is a money making game unfortunately
That’s how I operate, too! I only use doctors when absolutely necessary!
Some peoples' experience:
Yeah, after taking Metformin, I felt the the affects on my heart and stopped after a day or two and that was in my early 30s. Now Berberine has helped my heart and I can feel the difference. Both being pretty apparent. Berberine is a way better choice than Metformin.
What’s interesting is that I have been taking bio-available Berberine 500mg 2X per day. I have literally not been sick with even a cold whatsoever since I’ve been taking it daily for over a year
What brand of Berberine
@@CherylAshley-th8sb That was a quote from someone.... And if you say any brand the censor bots will pounce on you, but I have no idea what brand that person was using.
Dr. Brewer's and his team's meta-analysis are superb.
The problem, for me, is the feeling that since I've been mislead by the AHA and ADA, et. al., for my entire life, how do I trust these doctors who are still under the "control" (respectfully) of outside factors.
I believe doctors really want to help. I'm not a conspiracist. But until we can untangle medicine from money, I'm only going to trust those medical professionals I've vetted
You are one of those doctors.
YEP... WELL Said...!!! 🙂👍 -70SomethingGuy
You don’t trust them. They will lost their credibility, especially after Covid.
Your use of low dose statins to reduce inflammation is well known and makes sense. Now that the study has come out on the use of low dose colchicine to reduce inflammation and reduce CV events risk by upto 30% can you do a future video on this please? The study uses Colchicine AND statins together. There have been suggestions that low dose Cochicine alone may be a better option to low dose statins.
So I have another point of view on this, just for information and disclosure in the Buren industry or any other industry like that. I was taking both berberine and metformin and my A1c dropped to 5.1 and it was consistently 5.1. Finally, my doctor said I don’t want that low so he took me off of Met Forman, and then lo and behold. I just got tested this last month or actually this month, and just been taking 1200 mg of berberine, and Buy A1c is 4.9. I think that’s rather interesting. You.
In 2013 I took my 81 year old type 2 diabetic father to a urologist because he was having bladder issues. The specialist looked over my father's meds and immediately ordered that he remove Metformin from his medication protocol. As it was linked to Bladder Cancer. My father died of Bladder Cancer later that year. Has the link of Metformin to bladder cancer changed since 2013?
I keep seeing these types of videos about Berberine being compared one on one with a different med, but only for one variable. They say well Berberine does X but Med does X 10% better. However, Berberine seems to improve 10 different variables at the same time. I would rather give up the 10% for multiple improvement but only from one substance instead of all the meds it’s being compared to.
That was my view. Several pharma drugs address a variety of issues, yet Berberine seems to address multiple issues on its own. I'm not on any medications, and I'm not taking berberine, but I do take some supplements. My concern is I want to understand if berberine is safe.
That's our first check but dosnt it depends on the brand too and others passing on good brands or how can we be sure or relaxed about our choice
I am a healthcare provider also , and I take Berberine for the glycemic and anti inflammatory effect it has , and I can tell you that it’s much less expensive than Metformin . I am not sure where Jesus is getting his info on pricing on Metformin , probably in Mexico it’s less , but herein US it’s not , first of all a patient needs a prescription that costs money , and then you have to get it filled from a pharmacy where you will have a copay . Depending on which type and group of insurance you have , it’s more money in a month than month supply of Berberine . Berberine here costs about 15 dollars for a whole bottle in Texas . Also I find it interesting that Dr Ford is presenting a schewed attitude toward Berberine VS Metformin .
Berberine works , period .
Also I am a follower of Dr Ford , but I think his perception here is alittle biased towards Metformin . We can look at high doses of both and they will both have an adverse effect profile as with all substances . The other thing is that Dr Bikman is tremendously credible in his presentations , ie Molecular and Cell Biology , He is at the front line of these studies because he’s actually doing them and publishing . Something that Dr Ford, colleagues , and myself are not doing or seeing .
Great presentation as usual , really triggers more dialogue and begs for more questions to be answered . After all this is what science is about , Question and do the research .
Thank you for listening
Thanks guys
Thanks a lot! Great input!
He's biased on Metformin along with other horrible big pharma drugs such as statins. He knows their side effects have been widely researched and confirmed, and contra many of his medical podcast peers, still pushes them.
I’m concerned how doctors are pushing cholesterol numbers lower and lower. I saw a comment from a woman bragging about her cholesterol being 67!!!😱🙄
@@jitaftwt
Exactly! Prior tho the first statin coming to market, the upper limit of health total cholesterol was 300. They lowered it, then abracadabra, a drug for all those new people that were over 200. Then it was 150, then 100, now 80. US smoking rate has declined by 50%, yet CVD and events have stayed level or increased. Lowering LDL is not the answer, is based on a study that has already been admitted by the researcher as falsified because he was a vegetarian and wanted to move American diet to vegetarian. Cholesterol protects the brain, our neural network, every cell wall/membrane, boosts our immunity, and is essential to hormone regulation. Our bodies genetically determine 80% of our cholesterol levels, and increase as we get older because we need more cholesterol in older age. Its no wonder there is an epidemic of alzheimers, Parkinson, adhd, etc. For the first time in decades, US life expectancy has gone down. Due to the food and pharmaceutical industry, secondary would be the chemical/petroleum companies producing roundup, Teflon and microplastics.
What brand of Berberine can you share? I finished the last bottle and was taking a break from it but I’m ready to start Berberine again.
Has been waiting a week for this show and was not let down! as always, very fascinating and in-depth information covering all the bases… You guys help me interact with my personal physician with the education you provide… doing God’s work thank you😊
For the past year, I've been taking 500mg of berberine 3x/day with meals. It has significantly reduced cravings for sugar and carbs. Dropped ~5 lbs. as a result, which is nice. I haven't had my lipids checked in that time, so I don't know if it has affected my cholesterol levels.
Berberine was initially hard on my stomach. I had to build up a tolerance to it. But now it's fine.
If your berberine also contains milk thistle, that causes stomaches aches in me.
Oh thanks these comments are helpfull in a new check for additions in the berberine what does milk thistle help ?
A year and a half ago everything I could find pointed that Metformin counter acted weight training. Berberine did not. Weight training also helps to reduce A1c.
Not all can do weight training so need another route
I don't have diabetes but my glucose has been hovering in upper 90's for a decade. I started taking berberine and it dropped it to mid 80's. Not huge I suppose but it improved. As mentioned those like me can't get metformin without script. I guess the question is..does it help to lower the glucose if not in that > 100 range.
Can you please share how much Berberine you take and the brand as well.
@@NansGlobalKitchen Currently 400 mg once a day. The brand is NOW. It's not expensive
@@whobdis77 any side effect? Can I take berberine with other supplement I am taking now ? I am taking magnesium, omega 3, B complex and milk tisle
I have a mil who suffered serious diarrhea from metformin. We tried so many other diabetes meds with really poor results, even with 20g total carbs for her diet. She’s 84, which causes people to write her off as a candidate for improvement but they don’t live with her. Also, she has successfully gotten off two
bp meds, furosemide, three diabetes meds, omeprazole, lowered her fbg by 80 pts, and knocked her A1C from 6.2 to 5.3 as of almost a year ago. However, she is sliding into dementia. She is now very close to 0 carb but mostly due to food boredom.
The point I’m getting to is that on 2/3 of the recommended dose of berberine, her bg benefits by about 30 points over the course of a day and seems to be the hero of fbg reduction. If we do the full three berberine caps/day she gets the diarrhea again.
Annfrailey do mct oil for dementure lady on utube dod it for her husband she was a doctor for babies,? American think Ann ,,,,,,,,,,he was an accountant er I was working with people with dementure an gave large tsp 2 times a day and it helped all of them and did cook in extra virgin certain foods small amounts only but worth a try ,
I'll stick with berberine + quercetin, 500mg / day each thank you. Fasting insulin was 9.6 in Feb. New labs in Sept.
I’ve been taking Synthroid and berberine for a couple years. No problems
Me too.
" the news is really good. but maybe not that good." This statement completely defines all things nutrition.
PMC 2410097
Compared with metformin, berberine exhibited an identical effect in the regulation of glucose metabolism, such as HbA1c, FBG, PBG, fasting insulin and postprandial insulin. In the regulation of lipid metabolism, berberine activity is better than metformin.
Thanks for sharing! The devil is in the details, this is a pilot study of 36 subjects, the umbrella Review studies are more powerful and involve more people, there might be research signals, but today, most evidence suggest Berberine is not as strong as metformin
Thanks for talking about meds vs supplements. Many people assume meds are bad and supplements are good.
I took berberine for about 6 mo at a high dosage. It worked wonderfully--lost weight, had a great A1c. But after 6 months I had a sudden occurrence of edema in my feet. I did 3 rounds of elimination and confirmed the swollen feet was the berberine. After the 3rd time of reintroducing it, I had a hard time getting the edema under control. I've not touched it since. BTW, I was also on 20 mg daily of atorvastatin.
It's not the Berberine by itself that caused the edema. It's most likely the coreaction with the statin.
Is there any credence to increased side effects when adding berberine to an atorvastatin ?
Could also be due to low protein intake. How's your albumin?
Thank you. What dosage of Berberine were you taking?
Berberine Fasting Accelerator: Berberine HCL with ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) and Biotin, Capsule all have studies on it myoxicience
Berberine may not be better than metformin. But there’s little evidence that’s it is worse. I take both ( not on the same days).
The truth is you still have to watch what you eat taking both metformin and berberine!Diet is a lot and excercise is better.If you don’t diet and excercise after a few years your sugar becomes outrageously high!I’m 70 and have many comorbitities but force myself to excercise at least three days a week and still even taking both sometimes it’s a struggle.
Walk 30 minutes every day you wake up. There are days that are inclimate; I sit in a chair and do leg & arm exercises for 30 minutes.
Also have restricted diet! No sugar, no processed foods, no white foods- bread, rice, potato, milk
I was on a Statin nearly 20 years ago, and I had to stop taking it because of muscle pain in my legs, especially. Into this day I still have that pain and it is much worse than back then. I probably only took it for a few months.
Try ubiquinol for leg muscle pain.
Thats horrible. Levoquin did that to me. Two pills and three years later my elbow tendons are still iffy and get inflamed so easily
Since statins have an absolute risk reduction of ONLY 0.8% with the potential for cognitive decline leading to mild cognitive impairment, which can then become dementia, increased blood sugars, which can lead to prediabetes and type II diabetes, and if one already is diabetic, worsening diabetes, poor wound healing (due to increased blood sugars), muscle aches and pains, and tendon rupture as a registered nurse who has seen the problems of people being on statins for years thinking they are immune to these side effects is saddened anytime a doctor promotes this ugly medication that may provide some minor benefits for a short time. Still, those same doctors don't adequately provide informed consent, letting the patients know that side effects can occur at any time!
100%. So why do these two caring "health experts" continue unabashedly pushing these statins?
@@omrit2@omrit2 They get funds either directly or indirectly from pushing certain medications.
Thank you for your honest professional information. Have experienced all the side effects stated and in spite of quadruple bypass 5 yrs ago, I refuse all the statins constantly pushed on me with fear mongering. As a homeopathic practitioner, I have found so much dishonesty. Don’t believe anything they tell me anymore after 30 years of research. I am waiting for the MEDBEDS close on the horizon.
@@omrit2 for the commissions they get for prescribing them
I take berberine and metformin and my sugar is almost perfect! I also intermittent fasting and exercise.
By the way I don’t have a thryroid and it still helps me
Someone once said "repetition is the key to learning", I think its good to hear the same thing over and over, at some point it sinks in.
Berberine nor Metformin doesn't work too well for me. Even walking and eating only 1 - 2 meals of low carb every day have a little effect on my weight and glucose level. What really works for me to get my A1C and weight down is the stressed workout, any exercise which I have to catch my breath.
Increasd Body stress (ex: heavy workout) leads to inflammation, increased cortisol, increased blood glucose, increased insulin. You are hyperinsulin resistant. The solution is not a quick depletion of muscle glucose, the answer is to remove all carbs until your body becomes insulin sensitive again. Go back to walking, not jogging, not running, not HIIT, etc. And do 16:8 intermittent fasting progressing to 20:4 fasting. Then do OMAD, then OMEOD, Then 3 day water fast for maximizing autophagy and repairing and resetting your cells. After 3-day fast, use a video on how to resume eating after fasting. Then return to 20:4 eating without carbs. Once your fasting BG is down in the low 70s, introduce 5-10 grams of carbs of broccoli or cauliflower, see how your CGM reading goes. If you are insulin sensitive, your BG should go up less than 30 points, and should recover to baseline within 2 hours. If not, plan your next 3-day water fast, continue no carbs. If your waistline is more than half your height, you are insulin resistant.
@@mikejones4308 Well aren’t you bossy?
😂😂😂 I’m kidding! Was very nice of you to write all that out 😊 maybe though you have it saved and copy-pasted. 🤔. Still nice!
HITT type workouts are very helpful to many. Seem to be what you are describing
Are you OK on d7 nk2 n sunshine 15 min in 3 times of different lights @ 7 am 1pm + 6-7 to build d for winter
@@jitaftwta good plan and explanations all through from what I've heard most are insulin resistant and have metabolic syndrome with out knowing how don't our doctors know this about us
You may want to look at Liposomal Berberine before making judgements.
Can you please share what is liposomal Berberine and how is it different from the regular Berberine
@@NansGlobalKitchen Plant extracts and vitamins/minerals/antioxidants etc can be encapsulated in sunflower lecithin (Phosphatidylcholine) which maximizes absorption and bioavailability allowing for smaller doses with increased effects.
any side effect? Can I take berberine with other supplement I am taking now ? I am taking magnesium, omega 3, B complex and milk tisle
Yeah, it's as always, when something is good, then after a while isn't so good after all! I am getting fed up of this!
@@chantalhaugen9028??
Dihydroberberine (glucovantage) is 😊
What about acute kidney failure patients? My doctor took me off of metformin for this reason.
"The FDA has revised warnings regarding metformin use in patients with reduced kidney function. The current labeling strongly recommends against use of metformin in patients with severe chronic kidney disease (eGFR < 30 ml/min/1.73 m2)."
I switched to berberine when my kidney function was compromised by Metformin.
It's funny; whenever Dr. Vega mentions Dr. Brewer's name, it actually sounds like he's saying "Dr. Berg." I used to think Dr. Vega was referring to Eric Berg, DC, who promotes the ketogenic diet on RUclips.
Medical school teaches the use of pharmaceuticals and repair rather than what it takes to educate the patient, asking for alternatives.
Being patient as I resist the meds and introduce alternative interventions & request bloodwork with explanation of reuslts.
In 3 mos of adding 1500mg Berberine and milk thistle, reduced total cholestrol level from 308 to 224 with hdl at 93 and triglyceride level at 40
Thanks for telling me why I get these spikes
I used nature made K2D3 for nearly six weeks and my d3 scores dramatically improved 30 to 72
And my Ca score went too high and was normal for years.
What was the dosage?
That seems like a significant change in a short period.
I was able to take Berberine w/MCT oil gelcaps for years. I primarily took it because it really helped with heat intolerance. This year, I noticed that I was having widespread tendon/bursitis pain. It was really significant pain. So bad that I had a hard time lifting my arms to get the dishes out of the cabinet, or to even touch the stair railing without gasping. If I stopped the Berberine gelcaps, the pain would lessen significantly within the week. It would take several months for all the pain to stop. I have tried going off and on Berberine several times thinking this was in my head. Not sure what is going on.
You took Berberine for years with no side effects, so most likely the effects you now describe are not the result of that.
My 86 year old mother slashed carbs and reduced her type 2 diabetes. I took her off metformin against Dr orders. She maintains A1C under 5.6
Reversed that is!
@@celiabanish9505wow 🎉 is that for taking berberine ?
If you are recovering from gut problems, Berberine helps reduce the harm caused by lipopolysaccharides (shortened to LPS, AKA endotoxins).
Metformin lowers B12...not a good thing when you have mthfr and anemia.
Thanks for this info. Agree you gotta be careful when you're mthfr.....
Then take b 12
What’s your position on Niacin?
I think you used to take it but I no longer see it on your schedule.
Did you stop because of the flushing? Or was it replaced with nattokinase?
Great show thank you both of you😊
Is it safe to take niacin with Amlodipine?Lets say 5 mg of amlodipine and 500mg of niacin.
I’ve been taking berberine for eight years and my cholesterol does not go beyond 200 and glucose at 120 and 5.9 A1C and by the way, I am 66, 170lbs.
What is the daily dose ?
@@SariPutri-x6vone tablet thirty minutes before meal
In the morning, drink it with warm water with two tablespoon of apple cider venigar
@@junvillanueva2790 thanks so much for answering. Any side effect since you take them ?
What about those of us that experienced increases in fasting blood glucose while on Metformin only to see fasting blood glucose decline when off Metformin? And I also experienced severe muscle cramping while on Metformin.
The dark background is very helpful.
Does the liver stop releases glucose when taking berberine. If so is. That bad
Statins raise blood glucose so not interested. I don’t want to go from prediabetic to diabetic.
But these two "health experts" are still pushing statins hard, so you better just take it and ignore all contrasting research and evidence.
Also raise your risk of dementia and Parkinson’s. Not trading one body system for another.
Not only are Statins contributing to Diabetes, I have seen reports of Diabetes of the Brain is contributing to Parkinson's Disease and/or Dementia .
Thanks to both of you I love your information and keep up the great work 😊👍✌️🥩
Thank you both for asking questions we need answers to
Oregon grape has many uses and I think it is better absorbed lots of berberine
I like you, but what does better meahns..... if it has the same effect that a prescription drug and less side effect, it is better.... if it is available without having to wait 1 hours for a doctor prescription, it is better... etc... you see my point...
I have an issue with Metformin... I like having a beer once in a while... but when I am on Metformin, I get drunk on one beer and I get a hangover... also I have gotten low blood sugar really bad on Metformin... Mr Dr says it doesn't do that... but I have tried this now many times with the same issues
Does your body adjust to Berberine? Nausea is a concern of mine.
I like the way the information was structured and presented by issues addressed
I'm curious what your CAC score is? You should get it done.
Ive seen SugarMD recommend dihydroberberine. Supposedly more bioavailable. Any thoughts?
Same here I saw that.
@@NansGlobalKitchensame here. I cant remember where I saw it, but when I found it? ( I live in Canada?...veryyyyyy expensive with shipping.
Why would you take metformin if you are carbs < 5g daily?
Yes. I need more info berberine for lowcarbs people
Haw about Berberine+ cinnamon+ milk thistle ?
hmm FYI after 2 TIA ,I had one of those carotid endorectemy (sic?) and have no further problems in 10+ years. i get an annual echosonargram just to be sure.
Always enjoy watching your show.❤
Can it worsen insomnia ?
Interesting video but I'm more confused now than I was an hour ago.
My doctor won't give me metformin since I have one kidney(right one was removed when I was 22 due to a birth defect) even though my A1C is 6.1 even with moderate carb restriction. Evidently metformin can be hard on the remaining kidney. I am 70 yo. I am considering taking berberine.
You need to take it!!! At least two to three times a day!!! YOUR A1C will DROP LIKE A ROCK!!! GUARANTEED 😉👍
sometime things get popular ""NOT because they are good'', but because big pharma promote them as being good... and why would they promote one of they drug as bad... Never saw a pharmaceutical promote a natural product as being as good as one of their drug..... why would they.... $$$
Love this show!! ❤❤
Im a biopathology doctor, and berberine is much safer because it doesn’t inhibit Igf1 and mtor more potently than metformin.
There’s a lot of misinformation you’re spilling out that’s factually incorrect.
But I respect your point of view as a doctor.
Regards.
Your a real doctor, not him. 👍❤️
Well explain that comment ease?
Please
After all the info we now have about the frequent side effects of statins (esp. muscular), these two are still pushing it. What does that say?
Did we watch the same show?. i heard them say get off your statin if you have a temperature or muscle pain.
I also heard to use low dose statin to help with inflammation. I don't think that's pushing statins
Low dose hydrophilic statins have little in the way of side effects. They are taken more for their anti-vasculitis (anti-inflammation) effect rather than their minor LDL reduction effect.
@@garzascreekGPs don't prescribe statins, low-dose or otherwise, to reduce arterial inflammation. They prescribe statins to reduce LDL. Period.
@@omrit2 - Yes, you are correct. The standard of care is LDL reduction . So, any other use would be off-label.
Did i hear the bunny hole
I'm sure i heard the bunny hole.
rabbit hole
Photobiomodulation allowed my 230 blood sugars to go down with exercise and supplements
It gave me chest pains. No health issues either.
Can you take berberine and Metformin????
My husband took both for awhile. Tapered him off the Metphormin, and increased his berberine. His A1c came down to normal levels. My daughter was having a lot of kidney issues on metphormine, she stopped and started on berberine and doing much better. All kidney issues have stopped.
Yes. It is commonly combined in China, where Berberine is more popular/mainstream as a treatment, and thought to have synergistic effect with each other.
Also talk to your doctor and have blood sugar levels monitored, whether its a supplement or a drug. It is absolutely critical that blood sugars don't drop too low.
Berberine doesn't damage Mitochondria, but metformin and glipizide do
You keep saying that Berberdine is not better than Metforin. But is it as good?
A friend, a scientist, told me that Berberine can not be absorbed by the human gut!
Dihydroberberine is much more readily absorbed.
Scientists also said the jab is safe. Science and the US government are one and the same.
The only side effect I had was when I tried 1,000 twice a day it induced night mares. At 1,500 once a day I feel much better and my mood is more stable
Is this as effective as niacin?
I don’t use this regularly but I use a couple bottles a year.
Just how does metformin work?
What does this do to mitochondrial function?
can one take berberine if I take rosurvastatin aldeady? Thanks!
What do you need Rosuvastatine?
@okoiful. Why Rosuvastatin?
Improvement in cholesterol
No bad drugs or supplements, only whether or not the side effects out weigh the benefits. Also, the big one, they only work if you need them. Nutrient assays and genes tells us a lot about what is going on if we take the time to look. Burgamont causes me the same side effects as statins just takes longer to show up. Key issue with FH is APOB gene defect means I don't clear ldl so statins starve me at a cellular level that is the source of the muscle and joint pain. Unfortunately, there are no good solutions for correcting the APOB or LDLR gene polymorphisms. 85% of monogenic FH... LMHR, put anyone like me on Keto diet and you will make those observations nothing new there.
I did not know the other side. Interesting
What does vitamin 8 do for PCOS, and other diagnosis?
Excellent!
I’m considering taking berberine in conjunction with my Rapatha because Rapatha alone is not lowering my off the chart levels and I don’t like the side effect profile of Nexlizet.
What about patient? You’ve had open-heart surgery with a mechanical valve is berberine having effect in that
America practices, Rockefeller medicine
Can you have low insulin and be pre-diabetic?
I have been using berberne for years, recently as a test I went off it for a couple months. I saw increases in my blood glucose between 5 and 10 mg/dl. My background is I was a diabetic not due to weight but genetics, thalassemia induced. Changed my eating to low-carb and back to regular workouts and been able to stay just below prediabetic for the last 6 years (no insulin or metformin), when I stopped the berberine I went into the low prediabetic. I went back on the berberine I am back below, so it works for me but to your point so would metformin, and when I did take it I did not experience the side effects, I just prefer to not take metformin unless I have to.
What brand of Berberine
@@CherylAshley-th8sb I use Thorne
Dr. AI doesn't have memory problems caused by patient induced stress.
Why aren't you talking about lowering insulin levels?
Get insulin levels below 6 and see how labs improve
I seen almost all those doctors and followed them haha. Also, ozempic or Ryobi gave me incredible loading that I could not get rid of until weeks after I stopped taking the medicine, but also some rands of berberine also have the same effect floating
Bloating, I’m going to stop taking Berberine to see if this helps me.
I might be simply over eating, love my ribeye steaks. So in addition I’m switching to salmon for at least 10 days maybe a month.
I’m also increasing my sodium intake to learn if this helps with my migraines. Every hour I’ll take 1/2 tsp from the morning to evening.
Too many variables changed at the same time, I know.
Thanks for the deep dive ✔️
Caution on the table salt- the white stuff- it’s not healthy at all. Instead, use a Celtic salt or Redmond salt, which still has all of the minerals.
4-6 grams (2-2.5 tsps) of table salt per day is all you need if fasting over 24 hours, otherwise, just use what you sprinkle on your food. Only need additional electrolytes if you are fasting more than 24 hours. Don't forget potassium, magnesium and calcium for that longer fasting.
Thomas DeLauer has a new video (which I’m not able to share here) but it’s on a new idea behind why we get diabetes. “Science Never saw this Coming” Newly Discovered cause of insulin resistance. Would like to know what you and your team thinks about it.
Thomas DeLauer has been putting out some good stuff lately in my opinion
People are get getting sicker and sicker because of all the chemicals in the foods.
Thomas DeLauer once did a video on women’s hormones… He was so incorrect on many things that he knew nothing about. I’ve been a woman all my life of 76 years and I know a lot more than he’ll ever think he knows (and I know more than most doctors!). He is neither a doctor or researcher so his interpretations of scientific papers are automatically suspect. Read any papers or research he uses and make your own conclusions.
My cautionary comment on Thomas was not posted just moments ago - WTH?
@@LobsterMobility TDL has never put out good information, imho!
I take berberine with Ezetimibe.
A very good show today. Thanks . The last question was very interesting to me, I had a central retinal artery occlusion resulting in blinding one eye. They found plaque in my carotid artery . My vascular surgeon did a carotid artery ectomy. She said I had soft sticky plaque. She cut the artery across and peeled it back like a sock and removed the plaque And stitched it back together. That is how she described it. 2018. I was on long tern Lovastatin. After that I found your channel and learned about my insulin resistance and diet and lifestyle changes I need to make. I am cab addicted and believe I am a TOFI what Dr Roy Taylor calls thin outside and fat inside, In other words have a fatty liver and pancreas. I am fairly lean but had a middle age spread which I have since lost and am working in muscle mass and HIit. I had a prediabedic diagnosis since I was 55 now 72 and my primary doc was and is still not concerned by it. All of my blood markers are in a good range now , but my HA1C has gone up. 5.7- 5.8 I have been using berberine along with lifestyle changes and testing fasting glucose and am looking forward to seeing my HA1C down to a good range,. My health care won’t test it more than once a year. Also switched my statin to low dose Crestor. Plus use niacin with breaks.
Thanks for sharing!
Why are you still on a statin? They just mentioned they cause insulin resistance. (A1C up)
@@donnacharles7348 If you are a follower of Dr. Brewer you would that he still recommends it for secondary prevention. There are studies that show it has some benefits. I am trying to lose visceral fat to see if my prediabedic numbers go down. At some point or my metabolism improves a lot I will stop the statins. And yes I am aware that statins can cause diabetes along with niacin. So ai monitoring those closely.
^A1c = ^ IR, is your "essential hypertension " increasing? Unexplained increasing BP or true hypertension typically the first sign of insulin resistance.
@@mikejones4308 I did have HB P but diet and exercise plus supplements have lowered it . I am off all BP meds.
This is the medical perspective. The alternative point of view is not here.
Berberine allowed me to lower metformin and glipizide
What about eat dried berberin berrys?
Berberine works for me.