The 2000 models of the PSP and Vita are still two of the most comfortable handhelds I've ever owned. This Win 4 is my favorite design among PC handhelds.
I'm loving the Handheld Competition right now, hopefully it will continue to force innovation in this market which will only be a win for all of us gamers whether Handheld, PC or console! Please keep up the Handheld coverage IGN!
Price has always been an issue for me for all these amazing new handhelds. However - the more innovative handhelds that come out to compete, the lower the price can be. And all these handhelds just keep getting better. Looking forward to the next couple of years
not really the first, there are several models from the 2000s with some sony viao models, oqo and many more under the category of UMPC, but GPD defiantly the one who've revitalized the UMPC enviorment in the mid 2010s with the win1 following the win2
Yes but they’ve always struggled against their competitor Aya Neo, GPD does cool shi with it’s design,, but always ends up having defects(over ambitious) Aya Neo devices are pure perfection, but basic and simple.
@@RJ-vy9ch easily alt tab out of games, not have to deal with touch screen or place fingerprints, even just having the screen slide up is convenient for making it level to your eyes when need be.
@@shto4782 That is my biggest complaint on anything Sony literally since they announced that mislead about 3G Vita mobile online play. Then the "We will stop 1st Party AAA Sony Games support "
Picked the Win 4 over the ROG Ally for the trackpad, slide out keyboard, smaller size, and non-proprietary eGPU option via USB 4 which the Ally shockingly doesn't have. Loving it!
Technically it doesnt but it should be possible to make an adapter because the XG mobile connector is just basically PCI-E. Also, if you're buying an eGPU, at that point why not make a gaming PC?
Really digging the compact, Vita-esque form factor. Looks like it'd be more comfortable to use for extended gaming compared to the more elongated designs of the Deck or Ally.
Lovely piece of tech, not only for its design and small size, but for it's integrated keyboard & mouse, external GPU support, Native Microsoft Windows Preinstalled (although you could also trick the Steam Deck to install it), great port selection: 2 USB-C + 1 USB-A + headphone jack + mSD, and the possibility to install an LTE module getting internet on the go!... It'd be perfect for around 500 ~ 600 USD though.....
Lte on the go is a game changer and this will make it be like cellphone. They should have subsidized it through t-mobile verizon and that would made it fly off the shelves. Thats how you move units
@@aceonewillful That's also how you get the consumers mad though, remember when the iPhone came out ? The sales really skyrocketed after it got jailbroken.
The price is fine. What it needs is a 7840U in place of that 6800. No doubt it will get one it just depends on how long before GPD does so and if by then AMD has already released the next best thing.
I'm glad you're branching out to the smaller companies like this one. It would have been worth mentioning that in case of needing to repair it, GPD will not easily service your device. You should only buy it if you're comfortable with opening the device and doing some soldering yourself.
they can't be any worse than Asus when it comes to service. It took me almost a year to play with my first gen threadripper, the damn board broke and it was 2 weeks of bickering with them to get them to take it, then it would be gone for 3 months and they would send me some other turn-in from someone else and it would begin again.
If you haven't made a decision yet you should also consider that the gpd win 4 is just better software wise. Less buggy with windows and the tdp adjustment on the fly is super convenient. Spec wise it's worse than the ROG but performance wise they're comparable so you should consider the formfactor and software more than the power
If you haven't made a decision yet, the indiegogo campaign for the 7840u version of this will launch in a few days and will match the Ally for performance (though not the 120hz VRR screen.)
Until you use a Windows handheld with a keyboard, you don’t know what you’re missing. It becomes usable and opens up PCs entirely back catalogue. The mouse mode especially, allowing DOS games to be played with the controls and fallback to kb when needed.
Handheld Gaming PCs seem to be the new next big thing. Steam Deck Ayaneo 2S ROG Ally GPD Win4 Playstation and Xbox better come up with something quick.
Saying “you’re gonna wanna set games to 720p for best performance” in that way of expression is seriously wrong, the 6800u and by extension the win4 blasts through call of duty MW2 2022 at 1080p on even as low as 15 watt TDP. Just tune your settings right. Resolution is more important than nearly everything else.
It's funny, not to say tragic, that this is basically what playstation fans have been asking Sony for decades. But instead of delivering something like this to us, Sony preferred to announce that shame of Project Q that no one asked for... 😒
Hi. I'm a fan of your videos. Can you give me an idea what do you call with the metal part that you used to dock your GPD win4? Been badly looking for that
@@EnochGitongaKimathithere's still an exclusive than the other handheld especially runs on windows because play the game as is. But steam deck has its own OS and specially get update for any game exist on steam. So it's still a choice.
Can you play games off the internet? Does it allow retro games from different consoles ( Xbox, Xbox One, PS1,2,3...GAmeCube, PSP, PS Vita etc with emulators is necessary )
@@buddyunholy9133 well no, because win max is still much more portable then regular laptop, plus is has a joystick built in so you don’t have to carry around an actual joystick with you
@@buddyunholy9133 well no, because it’s much more portable then regular laptop, plus you can use it as a desktop if you want, just connect it a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc. but at any moment you can just disconnect it and there you have a small portable gaming machine on the go, you cant really do that with a regular laptop, and you would have to carry a joystick with you but with win max one is already built in
Its more a psp, not a vita. And no we dont prefer seperated D-pads, we just dont want the muchi xbox ones or the overly clicky ones like switch. Snes, genesis, ps1-ps5 all non seperated pads and they are legendary.
Increasing the price to $800 will affect the sales of Nintendo. Not many will be willing to spend that much for a video game. Just look at the current sales of this PC handhelds vs Switch.
The whole point of a handheld PC is, well, it's a "handheld" PC. So of course people who are interested in those are going for the handheld aspect. Your comment is like saying, 3D movie tickets are more expensive than 2D movie tickets, so unless you really want to watch it in 3D, you might just get the cheaper 2D tickets. People who don't mind spending more money on 3D movies are going for the 3D experience. That's the whole point of 3D. Same for the handheld PC. They are always more expensive than their laptop counterparts. (Except for the steam deck because that's a different business model)
@@guangsihan My point being that at that price range, a better option could be to get a gaming laptop (still a portable device, with a better performance). Unless you really, really want the handheld experience. And even for that there are cheaper options.
@@RoyFokker93 your point is, again, unless you really really want to watch a movie in 3D, you might want to go with the cheaper 2D options. So yes, people who want a handheld PC really really want a "handheld" PC, that's the whole point. Just like people who really really want to watch 3D movies, they will just do that, they know there're cheaper 2D options but they want 3D. People who are interested in handheld PCs know that there are other cheaper and better laptops but they want a small handheld form factor. You sound like people who buy handheld PCs don't know gaming laptops exist...
the fact that the windows settings arent optimized to be zoomed in, right out of the box, lets you know they dont know what theyre doing. this is why people like steve jobs are worth their weight in gold. he would never allow a product to have a interfazed that only ants can see. like thats such a simple thing they could have done, but no one in the company thought to fix that.
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The 2000 models of the PSP and Vita are still two of the most comfortable handhelds I've ever owned. This Win 4 is my favorite design among PC handhelds.
You must have some ridiculously small hands then 😂
That is a testament to how shitty handhelds are...
Agreed, modern handhelds like the switch and steam deck just feel too big and chunky to carry around portably.
@@rain3869 they were actual handhelds you could carry in your pocket unlike modern stuff.
@@rain3869 Thats my issue with it as a Steam Deck owner! It’s way too small 👎🏾Dope design but AyaNeo 2 is the best lookin handheld imo
I'm loving the Handheld Competition right now, hopefully it will continue to force innovation in this market which will only be a win for all of us gamers whether Handheld, PC or console! Please keep up the Handheld coverage IGN!
Agreed‼️
fr they need to keep up with this
@@angeldelatorre9505 prolly
Price has always been an issue for me for all these amazing new handhelds. However - the more innovative handhelds that come out to compete, the lower the price can be. And all these handhelds just keep getting better. Looking forward to the next couple of years
Same here, hopefully next year prices drop
give it 4-5 years
Steamdeck costs 400$
There are more budget friendly and retro categories of handhelds out there.
Anbernic and Ayn offer several handhelds.
It’s on sale for about $600 now. Figured you may want to know lol
Isn't GPD one of the pioneers of handheld gaming PCs?
the are, the very first
not really the first, there are several models from the 2000s with some sony viao models, oqo and many more under the category of UMPC, but GPD defiantly the one who've revitalized the UMPC enviorment in the mid 2010s with the win1 following the win2
@@kelvinchewjwI don't think sony's vaio were capable of running any games even from the early 2000s
@@kelvinchewjw they’re not handheld gaming PCs
Yes but they’ve always struggled against their competitor Aya Neo, GPD does cool shi with it’s design,, but always ends up having defects(over ambitious)
Aya Neo devices are pure perfection, but basic and simple.
The keyboard and mouse built in can’t be understated
Why would you even want to use that keyboard
@@RJ-vy9ch mainly during installation. as with the other handheld PC consoles you still need to access mouse and keyboard during installation
@@RJ-vy9ch easily alt tab out of games, not have to deal with touch screen or place fingerprints, even just having the screen slide up is convenient for making it level to your eyes when need be.
@@RJ-vy9ch playing an mmor style game, or really any game with a chat
Anyone who owns a OneXplayer would appreciare that keyboard. Total pain in the butt to use the onscreen keyboard to input anything.
Looks closer to the original PSP rather than the Vita
These kids have no clue these days.
for real, psp has those "sharp" edges that vita doesnt have
and gpd win4 also has a sharp shape. like it.
it looks like a vita wtf
@@techn9nee209 look at the vita then look at the psp, and only then look at the gpd4
what looks closer?
Looks like the 'PSP GO'
Psp go moment
More of psp vita go moment
Too bad not from sony. They just made their tablet for cloud gaming thats all
@@shto4782 That is my biggest complaint on anything Sony literally since they announced that mislead about 3G Vita mobile online play. Then the "We will stop 1st Party AAA Sony Games support "
ROG ally wins
@@stuff12hey1 steam deck still better so im not impressed with Rog ally
They are launching the 7480U in a couple of months, no point in getting the 6800U version.
they're launching the new 8260U next year, no point in getting the 7480U version. Shut up nerd lol
GPU win5?
Unless we get a nice price drop on the 6800u variants
@@tankdome37or rather refresh 7480U varian like GPD WIN MAX 2023
799??? Where I’ll buy it now it was 1200 on indigogo
Picked the Win 4 over the ROG Ally for the trackpad, slide out keyboard, smaller size, and non-proprietary eGPU option via USB 4 which the Ally shockingly doesn't have. Loving it!
Yes it is the best portable pc!
Problem with gpd always has been the price
Technically it doesnt but it should be possible to make an adapter because the XG mobile connector is just basically PCI-E. Also, if you're buying an eGPU, at that point why not make a gaming PC?
@david duarte have you heard of the Nintendo switch?
Looks like a great device. Just wish it had the new 7840U instead.
It has the best looking design of all handhelds but it's not very comfortable for long playing sessions
Hold my big PSP!
@@ImmortalDuke psp 1000
PSP wasn't either but we had to deal with it 😂
This one is the most comfortable compared to all the other handhelds.
@@djkidsolo
Aren't Steam Deck the most comfortable?
Really digging the compact, Vita-esque form factor. Looks like it'd be more comfortable to use for extended gaming compared to the more elongated designs of the Deck or Ally.
Hearing the Steam Deck feels lighter and more comfortable than how it looks.
Hearing the Steam Deck feels lighter and more comfortable than how it looks.
Extended gaming for two hours without a plug? What’s the point
steamdeck is really nice to hold
@@Dec4AllTimeAlways lighter? no. more ergonomic? absolutely yes
what kind of weird monster prefers split directionals to a real d pad? i've never heard someone prefer that in my entire life
Lovely piece of tech, not only for its design and small size, but for it's integrated keyboard & mouse, external GPU support, Native Microsoft Windows Preinstalled (although you could also trick the Steam Deck to install it), great port selection: 2 USB-C + 1 USB-A + headphone jack + mSD, and the possibility to install an LTE module getting internet on the go!... It'd be perfect for around 500 ~ 600 USD though.....
Lte on the go is a game changer and this will make it be like cellphone. They should have subsidized it through t-mobile verizon and that would made it fly off the shelves. Thats how you move units
@@aceonewillful That's also how you get the consumers mad though, remember when the iPhone came out ? The sales really skyrocketed after it got jailbroken.
The price is fine. What it needs is a 7840U in place of that 6800. No doubt it will get one it just depends on how long before GPD does so and if by then AMD has already released the next best thing.
@@opt1myst1c A refresh including this 7840U CPU and called GPD Win 4 2023 version is already available for preorder
I'm glad you're branching out to the smaller companies like this one. It would have been worth mentioning that in case of needing to repair it, GPD will not easily service your device. You should only buy it if you're comfortable with opening the device and doing some soldering yourself.
they can't be any worse than Asus when it comes to service. It took me almost a year to play with my first gen threadripper, the damn board broke and it was 2 weeks of bickering with them to get them to take it, then it would be gone for 3 months and they would send me some other turn-in from someone else and it would begin again.
Great music starting at 4:15, well done... Oh yeah and great review.
Portable but is only able to play games for 1-2hours? For $799. No thanks. We're just not there yet...
Ready for all these handhelds to not be so ridiculously priced in the coming years.
I'm debated between this and ROG Ally now. This is inferior spec wise but being smaller and in a sliding screen form factor is so attractive
If you haven't made a decision yet you should also consider that the gpd win 4 is just better software wise. Less buggy with windows and the tdp adjustment on the fly is super convenient. Spec wise it's worse than the ROG but performance wise they're comparable so you should consider the formfactor and software more than the power
If you haven't made a decision yet, the indiegogo campaign for the 7840u version of this will launch in a few days and will match the Ally for performance (though not the 120hz VRR screen.)
Until you use a Windows handheld with a keyboard, you don’t know what you’re missing. It becomes usable and opens up PCs entirely back catalogue. The mouse mode especially, allowing DOS games to be played with the controls and fallback to kb when needed.
battery tech just isnt there for these kinds of devices. give it 10 years
I've had for a couple months....I love this thing so much...
@Internet 2050 blud thinks "no one asked" is still a relevant comeback 💀
Handheld Gaming PCs seem to be the new next big thing.
Steam Deck
Ayaneo 2S
ROG Ally
GPD Win4
Playstation and Xbox better come up with something quick.
Sony responded... with a stream only 200 game pad. That requires a PS5 to run. so... GPD Win 4 cheaper? XD
the offset thumb sticks are a deal breaker for me though
Agreed 💯👍
Same
Same.. Otherwise a neat device
It’s dough, not though.
This looks way more like a PSP than a PSVITA tho
PSP and vita are similar
@@theo5675 But they're still different, and this looks more like a PSP rather than a PSVita.
Ah yes
The PSP lets go ..
PSP Go really grew up
While this looks cool, it’s already irrelevant since the Rog ally is faster AND cheaper
But, the form factor is absolutely king on the win, which is huge on a portable
These may be my favorite when it gets the obvious "any-day-now-upgrade" to a 7840U.
It needs a stylus pen for the more accurate windows options. Apart from that it’s awesome!!
About 6 months later...IGN talks about this console. IGN being IGN
When we know they're actually going to update it to the new 7840u lmao
Not worth $800
Never thought you would review one of these! :OOO
Why are guys not comparing this with Rog ally
Saying “you’re gonna wanna set games to 720p for best performance” in that way of expression is seriously wrong, the 6800u and by extension the win4 blasts through call of duty MW2 2022 at 1080p on even as low as 15 watt TDP. Just tune your settings right. Resolution is more important than nearly everything else.
It's funny, not to say tragic, that this is basically what playstation fans have been asking Sony for decades.
But instead of delivering something like this to us, Sony preferred to announce that shame of Project Q that no one asked for... 😒
Came here to say the same thing. This is what Project Q should have been.
Please do the comparison with Rog ally and steam deck.(fps in games )
this is the manifestation of my childhood dreams!
More affordable with 799? Are the other ones 1000 bucks each?
Hi. I'm a fan of your videos. Can you give me an idea what do you call with the metal part that you used to dock your GPD win4? Been badly looking for that
Another big plus the steam deck has is the community support & games getting optimized for it specifically.
Another insecure steam deck fan. You guys are like subject of some religion
This is where the competition can't keep up - Valve does special optimization for games on the Deck.
@@kylerobinson6102 most of the optimisations done for the Steam Deck benefit the other Handhelds.
@@EnochGitongaKimathithere's still an exclusive than the other handheld especially runs on windows because play the game as is. But steam deck has its own OS and specially get update for any game exist on steam. So it's still a choice.
The Deck's UX and UI are both miles better than that of any handheld that runs Windows currently.
comes in up to 2tb storage and 32gb ram. this is ign seems like they'd get that right. sending from my win 4
It looks like the PSP Go.
do any of these offer HDMI out port?
Can you play games off the internet? Does it allow retro games from different consoles ( Xbox, Xbox One, PS1,2,3...GAmeCube, PSP, PS Vita etc with emulators is necessary )
Iono bout Xbox one emulation, never heard of it yet but everything else should as it's windows
Dude, it’s a PC. Of course it can.
Sony called,
They want their stolen design back
is this coming to bestbuy?
Gotta give it to the switch man the switch literally revive the handheld market and I’m loving it
7/10
It's looks more like a PSP1000 than Vita to me.
The screen seems so tiny
For that price? I'd go for the ROG Ally. And if this GPD needs warranty service, you have to ship it back to China - talk about cumbersome.
Loving the size. If the price was more in line of a deck it would be an instant buy for me.
It is now. It's 650
Black friday flash sale got this down to about 500 for me! No brainer buy!
Would have loved a 7"screen which is already small for me.
Agreed, but they also have win max 2 with 10.1 inch screen. It’s more expensive though
@@duuke4618 at this point it is more reasonable to buy a small gaming laptop or a rog flow
@@buddyunholy9133 well no, because win max is still much more portable then regular laptop, plus is has a joystick built in so you don’t have to carry around an actual joystick with you
@@buddyunholy9133 well no, because it’s much more portable then regular laptop, plus you can use it as a desktop if you want, just connect it a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc. but at any moment you can just disconnect it and there you have a small portable gaming machine on the go, you cant really do that with a regular laptop, and you would have to carry a joystick with you but with win max one is already built in
They're about to announce their "GPD Win Mini" line in June, which will be a 7" clamshell. Should be interesting.
How long before MS releases a 'responsive' view for windows in hand helds? :)
This with ally spec wud be a killer
Why isn't there a Windows Phonr yet???
Why do developers keep putting the analog stick far down on the right, it’s so uncomfortable there 🤦🏽♂️
no one likes split directional buttons, what are you talking about?
It didn't say if it has haptic feedback or not .
People keep saying Vita design when it looks more like a PSP. Y'all aren't gamers, just researchers🤣
$800 hard pass. They’re just insane.
PS vita is only 250$ or 189$ and can remote play a play station 3-4-5
@@ThatsBroFromChicago PS Vita for $200 and a PS5 for $500 you're already most of the way there... Neither of them can run a windows desktop though
You don't seem to be aware of what this device is, for the price
Vita can't remote play ps5
I'll stick to my deck thank you very much
Just purchased this 32 ram with 2tb. Can’t wait for it to come
Has it arrived? So exciting
@Emma Madison lol you think he has money for only spending a band? U must be poor
Its more a psp, not a vita.
And no we dont prefer seperated D-pads, we just dont want the muchi xbox ones or the overly clicky ones like switch. Snes, genesis, ps1-ps5 all non seperated pads and they are legendary.
Nintendo should do something like this to replace the 3ds and switch, then we can have a dedicated home console with up to date specs for once.
Like what? This is what they already offer from a form factor perspective
Increasing the price to $800 will affect the sales of Nintendo. Not many will be willing to spend that much for a video game. Just look at the current sales of this PC handhelds vs Switch.
It will fail
Really wish someone would just remake the Sidekick again :(
Amazing ergonomics and great thumbsticks.
What is the game used
They have 7840u coming out in September
Just got mine the other day! Playing The Last of Us on it right now 😁😁
Cant wait for TheRelaxingEnd unboxing...
How do you think this compares against it's more business orientated, larger brother- the Win Max 4 2023?
Do you mean win max 2? Still gaming oriented just more of a laptop in form factor
yeah but how well does it do Excel?
I'm still waiting on GDP Win 4 OLED version
Its more like the Vita mixed with a PSP Go in design.
And there alredy planing the GPD Win Mini
what happened if stick drift happen??
At that price, unless you really want a handheld console, it would be better to just buy a gaming laptop.
if you have lots of money...a handheld pc is awesome to have
The whole point of a handheld PC is, well, it's a "handheld" PC. So of course people who are interested in those are going for the handheld aspect. Your comment is like saying, 3D movie tickets are more expensive than 2D movie tickets, so unless you really want to watch it in 3D, you might just get the cheaper 2D tickets. People who don't mind spending more money on 3D movies are going for the 3D experience. That's the whole point of 3D. Same for the handheld PC. They are always more expensive than their laptop counterparts. (Except for the steam deck because that's a different business model)
@@guangsihan My point being that at that price range, a better option could be to get a gaming laptop (still a portable device, with a better performance). Unless you really, really want the handheld experience. And even for that there are cheaper options.
@@RoyFokker93 your point is, again, unless you really really want to watch a movie in 3D, you might want to go with the cheaper 2D options. So yes, people who want a handheld PC really really want a "handheld" PC, that's the whole point. Just like people who really really want to watch 3D movies, they will just do that, they know there're cheaper 2D options but they want 3D. People who are interested in handheld PCs know that there are other cheaper and better laptops but they want a small handheld form factor. You sound like people who buy handheld PCs don't know gaming laptops exist...
@@RoyFokker93i guess you never experience neither gaming laptop nor handheld gaming before.
Can it play any pc game? Even mmos ?
That intro music was trippy while wearing earbuds.
Why is it so hard to buy ???
Cool, would still prefer the Steamdeck tho.
that korok voice when you sliding the screen lol
How are you related to Lon Seidman
Sony can sue this GPD company 😅
Is it 7?
Display Settings >> Scale and layout >> 175%
Looks like a PSP GO - not a Vita.
It is a 7.
Wow didnt know Jeff Cavaliere started working for IGN
Excellent overview and quick review.
How is it on the more affordable side if it is more expensive than the competition?
Jeff cavalier working for IGN now 😂 is there anything that man cant do...
HANDHELD PC'S ARE KILLING YOUR GAINS!
This should be sold as playstation model handheld which could run all ps5 games. Basically a portable ps5.
the fact that the windows settings arent optimized to be zoomed in, right out of the box, lets you know they dont know what theyre doing.
this is why people like steve jobs are worth their weight in gold. he would never allow a product to have a interfazed that only ants can see.
like thats such a simple thing they could have done, but no one in the company thought to fix that.
can this push warzone 2 or not?
Just a 7? What's the negative point about this device?
Incredible
Handheld Gaming Pc monster
If this thing can play up to PS5 games & PS3 emulation !?
This is the future