i think the only reason they didn't put it in is bc they probably didn't want fans to feel bad for the villain which makes me sad bc some villains deserve sympathy and their stories should be known so you get an idea as to why they are the way they are
@@l_castro9714 damn, that’s so sad and messed up. Like he deserves to get some redemption. I mean sure he has done so bad things in the past but so did Damon Salvatore and Klaus Mikaelson and they did allllooottt! Honestly I’ll never get over what Julie did for Kai’s character
@@angelnyambio4707 yes i'm glad you understand what i'm saying. villains should be allowed to redeem themselves, just bc they are the villain is someone else's story, doesn't mean they wanna be the villain their own story. they should be allowed to feel like they deserve another shot bc society doesn't accept who they are which should allow character growth and change.
@@l_castro9714 Yeah, and honestly I didn’t like how Bonnie was acting when she and Damon was with Kai as they trying to find a way to get of the place. Like she should’ve taken what Kai stated to them both back at the house when Damon comment something like Kai doesn’t know what he’s doing to consider. Plus, she shouldn’t have tried to betray Kai by going back home with Damon, leaving Kai behind. Because she instead of Damon go back home, it would be a really good thing because she can finally definitely be selfish for once as she should and plus Elena can continue to thrive with no memories of ever loving Damon and meets someone new(tho I think she should’ve moved away from Mystic Falls to somewhere else) and Jeremy gets to reunite with Bonnie. Damon no question will kill Kai which is bad because Kai would do the same and tries to find away back home without Damon. Honestly, it’s kinda good that she was stuck with Kai, although when was she was awakened at the house where she, Kai and Damon were in after getting shot in the arrow(since she killed him and left him there so she and Damon can get back home), that could’ve been the new start where she calls him a psychopath and he reminds her of saying she’s supposed to help him “be more like her: smart, loyal, patient, brave” so she eventually agrees to which leads to them somewhat getting along or at least being civil with the other. He then takes her back to Oregon his childhood home and to celebrate a thanksgiving. I guess she would do something to make him mad so he steals her magic and goes back home, you know getting revenge and just like what how the episode ends except for the twist, Bonnie gets to be able home with help from Elena and not just Damon but also Caroline. But I think that would be a bit of a stretch
I feel like they deleted this scene because ppl would look at Kai different and instead of being “the villain” he would just be other misunderstood person with character development like Damon or klaus but they didn’t want another one of them so they just made him a psychopathic villain with a motive 🤷🏽♀️😭 but I wish they’d let him have a character development
I think they do that because, ceroline was pregnet in real life. So they just finde a solution, and put babies in ceroline. And they neee to kill djo. And who will kill her, ofcorse kay. Sorry about my spelling mistakes. I don't spell good. I am not from englend or america
You fail to realise that Kai was also mistreated during his childhood. As he stated “but I’d like to live, frankly. Because I didn’t get to do a whole lot of that before everyone decided that I wasn’t worth it.”
@@lilykaran511 even before that they left him out hence the whole reason why he killed them. They treated him unfairly just because he was a siphon and they felt like it wouldn’t be a fair game in the merge hence why they had more kids to have liv and Lucas
@@alexandracaceres7222 i know right, everyone talks about how he’s the bad guy but they never talk about how he was treated so wrong by his family everyone just decided that he was a bastard. (like klaus) but when he killed them he was sent away like it was his fault
@@kaysworld8796 right. I’m not saying it’s ok to kill little kids lol but I’m just saying i understand and I honestly wish they would’ve made him good not completely good but tolerable in the show where they could all be friends because I wanted him to be in the show more 😭😭
@@kaysworld8796 he kill his twin and almost Liz and Jo jr like wtf like right now he lying to her if he wants to live so badly then leave go get your life.
She’s so fucking annoying. She ruined everything. Everything. Stefan got fucked over but his asshole of a brother got a redemption? Even Kai deserved more than Damon. They just wanted to please the freaking teenage girls watching the show. Damon was the last person worthy of redemption, literally pisses me off.
honestly i think not redeeming him is the right way to go but she still did it in a dumb way because you can have a sympathetic villain that stays a villain and it would have been great and i think having him just be a psychopath without redemption is actually fine and good like i could imagine him going for redemption then after the scene where bonnie abandons him then all of his progress is reset and hes fully evil again then he dies if thats how the show handled kai it would have been great and having this scene would have helped with that so much
@@entah. your right but you have to remember before that Kai was a sociopath he had no remorse or sympathy until he merged with his brother and inherited his empathy it’s not an excuse just scientificly he didn’t care but let’s not forget all the bad things klaus and Damon did but their still redeemeable and misunderstood but so was Kai and he was trying really hard to be good when did klaus and Damon try as hard as Kai did to do the right thing
@@entah.you casually forgot she started it when she used “motus” to fly a pickaxe into his abdomen to leave him there? At that point she didn’t even know he couldn’t die so her intention was to kill him.
@@miagrass They broke him, that's why he hurt. Since childhood, the family treated him like a piece of shit, and then his own father sent him to suffer in the prison world. Did he have a choice? He couldn't even die normally there.
@@MrFreshnesscp No excuses for killing innocent children who had nothing to do with how his parents treated him, Does every person who was mistreated by a parent, then decide to go out and murder defenseless kids?
I couldn't understand why Stefan and Damon were treated like saints but Kai was treated as a villain considering the Salvatore bros has a longer history of killing people more than Kai. Kai literally tried to redeem himself but apparently it wasn't good enough for Scooby-Doo gang so everyone else gets a second chance but not Kai.
Kai literally left Bonnie alone in a prison world with no one else around. If you ask me, it’s worse than death, because humans need connections and people around them. Being alone is the worse kind of torture
@@deadpooldan9862and Kai was in prison world for 18yrs. And originally Bonnie and Damon planned to leave him in prison world while they both escape and not to forget Bonnie literally stabbed him first. She had it coming.
@@jawbreaker8033 to be fair, Kai literally tortured and threatened to kill Damon before even introducing himself, then they found out he was a murderous sociopath who would kill his sister if he got out, so they did what they had to do to keep him locked up. Kai’s not the victim here, he’s the villain
I honestly believe that kai changed after he merged with Luke and Bonnie left him behind in 1903 i get that he put her through hell but he was trying to change after what she did he snapped again.
Why would you delete this scene!!?? This scene was crucial to show why Kai went evil and psycho, and every fan who doesn’t get why we love Kai would now know why! If ppl gave him the time of day he would prove he isn’t evil just broken💔
Lowkey Kai wouldn't be a sociopath or he would atleast be less psychotic if his family wasn't garbage. Luke and and Jo were awesome thought but I guess that doesn't really help since kai tried to kill them both multiple times
Kai: I'm the black sheep you know the defective twin that nobody wanted. 1:07 Me: I can relate to kai's pain to my family I'm the defective son/brother nobody wants or cares about.
Honestly this scene didn't really change the way I viewed Kai because before I always knew there was something behind all of his snide comments and psychotic behavior. All those little lines that he said that were actually super sad and painful but he plays them off like he doesn't care. ex. "...it's like they expected me to be evil." I think what I keep coming back to is that he spent 18 years completely and utterly alone. He stewed in his anger, sadness and suicidal feelings for all that time with only his thoughts to occupy him. Especially after experiencing Covid, I don't understand how he wouldn't come out insane and seriously messed up. I mean even Damon and Klaus had at least one person in their life that never gave up on them and believed there was good in them. Kai never had that. Every reinforcement that he got from people was that he was evil and they wanted him gone. Even in this scene, when Kai is opening up to Jo, she says she wants him out of her life, to never see him again. I get where she's coming from, but can also see that after she says it Kai immediately goes back into his sarcastic uninterested default, which I kind of read as his way of protecting himself from hurt or disappointment...idk maybe that's just me. I loved the episodes were he was experiencing emotion again and trying to be good. I wish there was more and that they had developed his character instead of just leaning into the evil villain rhetoric. It would've helped me to continue watching the series. ....sorry finished writing this and realized how long it was...
I think it's very obvious the original writers of kai had different intentions with his character then how the end result was he obviously wasn't born evil and was more complex then how they Presented him in the end of his arc he was a very abused and neglected by his family and that had a effect on him doesn't justify his behavior but it Certainly explains it he was on a road to redemption or potential redemption if not for biases/hating to give bonnie her own villain romance /storylines and kai was a victim of his own Success he was too liked and shipped with bonnie that's why they continue to try and sell kai is irredeemable which I don't buy 🙄
The thing about Kai is BEFORE HE WAS A KILLER he was neglected. Before he became this sociopath (that we still love 😉) he was treated badly buy his family. So yeah obviously he would grow up to hate them and always want revenge. The problem is bc he is a siphon and bc he was treated so bad he became violent. And then the only way he knew to let out his hate and rage was to kill everyone. I feel bad for him sorta 😭. I Love KAI PARKER
I dont wanna go there, but this scene could have been used to portray Jo and her version of events (that led to the massacre) as an unreliable narrator. A traumatized victim, but not knowing the full story.
Ace of Knaves that’s not logic I love Kai as well but In reality he couldn’t be anywhere near me He literally killed his 4 of siblings cause his parents didn’t want him Then tried to kill two 6 years olds And tried to kill two 3 year olds
I swear I wonder how good Jodi Lyn O’Keefe would’ve done if she was playing the villain cuz the way she played Gretchen in Prison Break dawg I tell you
Bc they think they're hot, interesting, and likable while ppl think elena is boring and annoying. It's the same reason almost everyone hates matt but love the male psychos/villains when matt barely did anything wrong
Matt and Elena: Die to save the friends they love. People: God, so annoying. Hate them. Kai: I'm going to slaughter babies and children and laugh at their mothers as I do it. People again: Oh my gosh, he so sexy and good looking. He had it really hard in his childhood, he just wanted power. People WTF?!?
people say that this scene should have been added to give Kai a redemption arc but personally i think its better he didnt have a redemption arc and i think actually having him end up with bonnie would be really stupid imo but this scene still should have been added because even without redeeming him just showing parts of his struggles would have been great
Now that I’m older, looking back at this scene, they made the right call by deleting it. Because some believe that this scene would make him look more like the victim or, “misunderstood,” when really, it just makes him look even worse and adds onto every point of him being a sociopath/narcissist. He only wanted Jo to empathize with him despite the shit he put her and her siblings through. He doesn’t acknowledge the fact that she had every right to feel the way she did abt him or the fact that he DID kill innocent children despite his sob story. The problem is, so many fans want to shift the blame onto literally anyone other than kai because they’re blinded by thejr fantasies. Y’all did the same thing w katherine, the originals, etc. Normalize not calling every villain misunderstood instead of evil as a way to downplay their crimes, instead, ADMITTING that these characters ARE evil, it’s just the unfortunate circumstances of life molded them into the beings that they are now. That’s why we appreciate them as characters.
@@mazza.d nope. Being a sociopath is a mental disorder. His neglectful upbringing didn't help but it didn't make him a monster either. Stop defending a remorseless killer
i see why they deleted it. they don't want people to have symphaty for kai, if this scene was out there people would love and symphatize with kai more and he would be basically another damon and klaus, show wanted kai to stay as a sociopath, not a tragic villian.
Before anyone else sticks up for how evil he is, he was eVil from birth we know they hates siphon witches but he was the one taking they're magic, killing the siblings he was overall a evil psyco what you saw was him trying to make Jo munipulated no one likes kai caus of how he was not just a siphoner
Kai was born into a family that didn't want him simply because he was different. Ever since he was little he was not allowed to touch anyone or be touched by anyone in fear of his powers, he had no one in his family. And as a little child that's really traumatic, he didn't get to learn how it feels to be loved or anything, children copy actions from their parents so he treates others how they treated him, which caused even more mutual hate. He had to watch his twin sister always get praised, and made feel special and he wasn't. He was told his whole life that he is weak, worthless and would just be there for his sister to win in the end. He was made to feel that she was better and stronger but then he realized that he is the stronger one and that his siphon powers would actually make him win. And then suddenly that was taken from him, the only thing that would made him be respected, and appreciated was ripped away from him, purposefully by his parents. The people that mentally and possibly physically abused him since he was born. They just kept on having kids until they got another set of twins that would insure that Kai never gets the position of a coven leader. A child that was isolated their whole life, that was made to feel like trash, couldn't learn any social skills or any normal human reactions, he was made into a monster with only one thing he cared about and then that was ripped away from him which caused the mental breakdown and him murdering his siblings, of course there is no excuse for that, there is never an excuse for murder but you can't exactly blame him from that. He was conditioned to become a monster, was treated like one and then they expected him to not become one? He was a black sheep long before he murdered his siblings or showed any sociopathic traits, his family excluded him since the day they knew what he could do. Then for twenty years he was shunned in a prison world, no human interactions, no animal interactions, just him in his own mind. There was no time or an opportunity for him to learn or become better. That caused a mentality ill person to go even more insane. He in his entire life never got to learn any social skills or follow any actual good examples and people expected him to just act and be normal? He finally decided he wanted to change after everything went down, he finally wanted to be the person he wanted to be and then Bonnie, the person he wanted to change for, did the same thing to him, as his parents did. Locked in a prison world. That's major trauma right there. He saw that no matter what he does, he will be looked at as a monster so he gave up. He returned with that mindset and killed Jo. I am postive that if they actually helped him, his first reaction wouldn't be to kill Jo and the twins but to find a solution. And if you are going to judge him for killing his siblings or anyone for that matter, keep the same energy with Damon, Stefan, Klaus, Elena, Elijah, Caroline or any person in that show, because every single one did almost the same if not worse. In first three episodes Damon killed more people then Kai did in his whole life. He killed Lexi who did nothing to him, he killed Jeremy(he didn't die but Damon didn't know that) and many other people with his humanity on and off, he raped Caroline no ifs, ands and buts. Stefan was the literal ripper, he killed so many people. Elena killed many as well. Klaus killed Jenna, Tylers mom and massacered covens and wolf packs. And if you are going to sit there, ignoring that or forgiving them, you are being a hypocrite. And if you even try to say they had their humanity off, well guess what, that's what its like for Kai too, he his whole life feels like his humanity is off but the only difference is all of them chose to turn it off, knowing the consequences, Kai didn't have that choice. His family conditioned him into becoming a sociopath and when he wanted to change ans be better, to help, no one believed him. Everyone forgave Damon, Stefan, Klaus etc and gave them an opportunity to change, to show they can be different, but they didn't do the same with Kai, he knew that he can't do anything to change their opinion. So don't sit there and say he was a black sheep because of what he did, no he did all of that because he was the black sheep.
@@sicklysweet2838 Dude, Elena killed Kol which killed thousands upon thousands of just random vampires, many of whom could have been goid, just to get Jeremy's tattoo completed to get the cure so she could become human again ... and EVERYBODY was ok with all those deaths and they still considered themselves the "good guys"? Kai just wanted to off the ppl who hurt him or got in his way. He was made into a sociopath due do lack of positive human interaction n touch as a child, teen, young adult, and prison world. Sorry but how he felt about getting revenge on his "family" was actually pretty understandable. You can't lock little kids away from social interactions, touch, positive feedback, it drives them crazy, wild, sociopathic. He was a product of his family's actions towards him. Then to be locked away 100% by himself in a prison world? Um yeah, he was out for revenge, and it was quite understandable if you know if a little bit about psychology. Wish they would have continued his redemption story but he already was moving on to another show unfortunately.
They haven’t that’s just a rumor and it’s not any of your business what they do behind the camera let them have privacy y’all are so obsessed it’s embarrassing
this scene would've been sooo good in the show
Absolutely
i think the only reason they didn't put it in is bc they probably didn't want fans to feel bad for the villain which makes me sad bc some villains deserve sympathy and their stories should be known so you get an idea as to why they are the way they are
@@l_castro9714 damn, that’s so sad and messed up. Like he deserves to get some redemption. I mean sure he has done so bad things in the past but so did Damon Salvatore and Klaus Mikaelson and they did allllooottt! Honestly I’ll never get over what Julie did for Kai’s character
@@angelnyambio4707 yes i'm glad you understand what i'm saying. villains should be allowed to redeem themselves, just bc they are the villain is someone else's story, doesn't mean they wanna be the villain their own story. they should be allowed to feel like they deserve another shot bc society doesn't accept who they are which should allow character growth and change.
@@l_castro9714 Yeah, and honestly I didn’t like how Bonnie was acting when she and Damon was with Kai as they trying to find a way to get of the place. Like she should’ve taken what Kai stated to them both back at the house when Damon comment something like Kai doesn’t know what he’s doing to consider. Plus, she shouldn’t have tried to betray Kai by going back home with Damon, leaving Kai behind. Because she instead of Damon go back home, it would be a really good thing because she can finally definitely be selfish for once as she should and plus Elena can continue to thrive with no memories of ever loving Damon and meets someone new(tho I think she should’ve moved away from Mystic Falls to somewhere else) and Jeremy gets to reunite with Bonnie. Damon no question will kill Kai which is bad because Kai would do the same and tries to find away back home without Damon. Honestly, it’s kinda good that she was stuck with Kai, although when was she was awakened at the house where she, Kai and Damon were in after getting shot in the arrow(since she killed him and left him there so she and Damon can get back home), that could’ve been the new start where she calls him a psychopath and he reminds her of saying she’s supposed to help him “be more like her: smart, loyal, patient, brave” so she eventually agrees to which leads to them somewhat getting along or at least being civil with the other. He then takes her back to Oregon his childhood home and to celebrate a thanksgiving. I guess she would do something to make him mad so he steals her magic and goes back home, you know getting revenge and just like what how the episode ends except for the twist, Bonnie gets to be able home with help from Elena and not just Damon but also Caroline. But I think that would be a bit of a stretch
what a waste of one of the best character to come along to tvd in years. And he had no intention of going anywhere
Exactly 😭😭😭😭
I feel like they deleted this scene because ppl would look at Kai different and instead of being “the villain” he would just be other misunderstood person with character development like Damon or klaus but they didn’t want another one of them so they just made him a psychopathic villain with a motive 🤷🏽♀️😭 but I wish they’d let him have a character development
Everyone loved him like klaus &’ damon anyway tho 😭😭
"Phsycopath with a motive" LMAOOO
i believe the exact same thing
I think they do that because, ceroline was pregnet in real life. So they just finde a solution, and put babies in ceroline. And they neee to kill djo. And who will kill her, ofcorse kay. Sorry about my spelling mistakes. I don't spell good. I am not from englend or america
No cos they already added a scene making him a victim
You fail to realise that Kai was also mistreated during his childhood. As he stated “but I’d like to live, frankly. Because I didn’t get to do a whole lot of that before everyone decided that I wasn’t worth it.”
But I mean... he also killed 4 of his little siblings and tried to kill the other 3
@@lilykaran511 even before that they left him out hence the whole reason why he killed them. They treated him unfairly just because he was a siphon and they felt like it wouldn’t be a fair game in the merge hence why they had more kids to have liv and Lucas
@@alexandracaceres7222 i know right, everyone talks about how he’s the bad guy but they never talk about how he was treated so wrong by his family everyone just decided that he was a bastard. (like klaus) but when he killed them he was sent away like it was his fault
@@kaysworld8796 right. I’m not saying it’s ok to kill little kids lol but I’m just saying i understand and I honestly wish they would’ve made him good not completely good but tolerable in the show where they could all be friends because I wanted him to be in the show more 😭😭
@@kaysworld8796 he kill his twin and almost Liz and Jo jr like wtf like right now he lying to her if he wants to live so badly then leave go get your life.
omg I want to cry Kai is so adorable
if he would have changed, he could have been a really nice character
You mean if Bonnie had given him a chance??
@@nicole_.parker8977 that too 😂
@@Figs-and-olives Yupp lmfao I love how she just kept rejecting him 😂 but I do feel bad lmao
@@nicole_.parker8977 i feel bad too! it was heartbreaking...if not Damon, i wanted her to be with kai(good kai) but 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@Figs-and-olives SAMEEE I ship Benzo/Bonenzo and Bonkai then for Bamon I only ship their friendship (I do ship Bonkai more tho)
Chris Wood is such a good actor!
*when you find out that Julie pleck was going to redeem Kai and keep him alive, but decided not to:*
😀🔪
She agg
She’s so fucking annoying. She ruined everything. Everything. Stefan got fucked over but his asshole of a brother got a redemption? Even Kai deserved more than Damon. They just wanted to please the freaking teenage girls watching the show. Damon was the last person worthy of redemption, literally pisses me off.
honestly i think not redeeming him is the right way to go but she still did it in a dumb way because you can have a sympathetic villain that stays a villain and it would have been great and i think having him just be a psychopath without redemption is actually fine and good
like i could imagine him going for redemption then after the scene where bonnie abandons him then all of his progress is reset and hes fully evil again then he dies if thats how the show handled kai it would have been great and having this scene would have helped with that so much
THEY SHOULD'VE KEPT THIS SCENE, IM CRYINGGG 😭
The crazy thing is Kai would’ve not killed anyone else if Bonnie didn’t leave him in the prison world where he was trapped
TRUTH
Crazy thing is if kai hadn't abused and tortured her she probably wouldn't have felt a need to get her revenge and would've left him alone
@@entah. right 😂
@@entah. your right but you have to remember before that Kai was a sociopath he had no remorse or sympathy until he merged with his brother and inherited his empathy it’s not an excuse just scientificly he didn’t care but let’s not forget all the bad things klaus and Damon did but their still redeemeable and misunderstood but so was Kai and he was trying really hard to be good when did klaus and Damon try as hard as Kai did to do the right thing
@@entah.you casually forgot she started it when she used “motus” to fly a pickaxe into his abdomen to leave him there? At that point she didn’t even know he couldn’t die so her intention was to kill him.
this is so powerful they should’ve kept it
I love how they act like siblings in the first part. And I love this without music how that they would've added.
It probably humanised Kai to much for there liking so they got rid of it
He’s just broken.
Liz is broken but still she doesn't want to cause harm to ppl unlike him who is a deceitful person a killer.
@@miagrass They broke him, that's why he hurt. Since childhood, the family treated him like a piece of shit, and then his own father sent him to suffer in the prison world. Did he have a choice? He couldn't even die normally there.
@@miagrass Lizzie has loving parents kai didn’t
@@MrFreshnesscp No excuses for killing innocent children who had nothing to do with how his parents treated him, Does every person who was mistreated by a parent, then decide to go out and murder defenseless kids?
@@tracysimms8701 but why we forget about what damon, stefan and klaus did? PLS
I love this scene! Y delete it??? Kai u will forever be in our hearts 😍😍😘😘
Thank you so much for this scene ! 😊 Kai's my fav' and it broke my heart 💔
I couldn't understand why Stefan and Damon were treated like saints but Kai was treated as a villain considering the Salvatore bros has a longer history of killing people more than Kai. Kai literally tried to redeem himself but apparently it wasn't good enough for Scooby-Doo gang so everyone else gets a second chance but not Kai.
Kai literally left Bonnie alone in a prison world with no one else around. If you ask me, it’s worse than death, because humans need connections and people around them. Being alone is the worse kind of torture
@@deadpooldan9862and Kai was in prison world for 18yrs. And originally Bonnie and Damon planned to leave him in prison world while they both escape and not to forget Bonnie literally stabbed him first. She had it coming.
@@jawbreaker8033 to be fair, Kai literally tortured and threatened to kill Damon before even introducing himself, then they found out he was a murderous sociopath who would kill his sister if he got out, so they did what they had to do to keep him locked up. Kai’s not the victim here, he’s the villain
the 4 dislikes were from the 4 main poeple in the gemini covern
Liv, luke, Josh (their dad), and whoever their mother was
I honestly believe that kai changed after he merged with Luke and Bonnie left him behind in 1903 i get that he put her through hell but he was trying to change after what she did he snapped again.
Right I mean he tried then he snapped again
I’m blown away this scene was powerful
Why would you delete this scene!!?? This scene was crucial to show why Kai went evil and psycho, and every fan who doesn’t get why we love Kai would now know why! If ppl gave him the time of day he would prove he isn’t evil just broken💔
Jo deserved way better
Lowkey Kai wouldn't be a sociopath or he would atleast be less psychotic if his family wasn't garbage. Luke and and Jo were awesome thought but I guess that doesn't really help since kai tried to kill them both multiple times
This is what happens when parents play favourites
I could swear I saw the scene in the episode
same
Same what did they do take it out
No Kai baby don't make me cry after 3 years of not crying🥺
Kai: I'm the black sheep you know the defective twin that nobody wanted. 1:07
Me: I can relate to kai's pain to my family I'm the defective son/brother nobody wants or cares about.
Same dude
Awww🥺 why delete it???💀😭
i’m pretty sure it was because julie, or somebody, thought that chris wood was showing too much emotion for kai’s character.
@@melaynaalbert1516 🥺🥺
@@melaynaalbert1516 WE WANT THAT KAI THOUGH 😭
Honestly this scene didn't really change the way I viewed Kai because before I always knew there was something behind all of his snide comments and psychotic behavior. All those little lines that he said that were actually super sad and painful but he plays them off like he doesn't care. ex. "...it's like they expected me to be evil."
I think what I keep coming back to is that he spent 18 years completely and utterly alone. He stewed in his anger, sadness and suicidal feelings for all that time with only his thoughts to occupy him. Especially after experiencing Covid, I don't understand how he wouldn't come out insane and seriously messed up. I mean even Damon and Klaus had at least one person in their life that never gave up on them and believed there was good in them. Kai never had that. Every reinforcement that he got from people was that he was evil and they wanted him gone.
Even in this scene, when Kai is opening up to Jo, she says she wants him out of her life, to never see him again. I get where she's coming from, but can also see that after she says it Kai immediately goes back into his sarcastic uninterested default, which I kind of read as his way of protecting himself from hurt or disappointment...idk maybe that's just me.
I loved the episodes were he was experiencing emotion again and trying to be good. I wish there was more and that they had developed his character instead of just leaning into the evil villain rhetoric. It would've helped me to continue watching the series.
....sorry finished writing this and realized how long it was...
OMG someone finally said it, I always thought there was something behind the “It’s like they expected me to be evil” line
I think it's very obvious the original writers of kai had different intentions with his character then how the end result was he obviously wasn't born evil and was more complex then how they Presented him in the end of his arc he was a very abused and neglected by his family and that had a effect on him doesn't justify his behavior but it Certainly explains it he was on a road to redemption or potential redemption if not for biases/hating to give bonnie her own villain romance /storylines and kai was a victim of his own Success he was too liked and shipped with bonnie that's why they continue to try and sell kai is irredeemable which I don't buy 🙄
great deleted scene in the vampire diaries with jodi lyn o'keefe !!!!
this scene is so good
The thing about Kai is BEFORE HE WAS A KILLER he was neglected. Before he became this sociopath (that we still love 😉) he was treated badly buy his family. So yeah obviously he would grow up to hate them and always want revenge. The problem is bc he is a siphon and bc he was treated so bad he became violent. And then the only way he knew to let out his hate and rage was to kill everyone. I feel bad for him sorta 😭. I Love KAI PARKER
Kai literally couldn’t feel anything, even getting joy and sadness mixed, so no, he definitely deserved what he got
I blame Julie for turning kai evil again. I don't blame bonnie like everyone else. Kai caused her trauma.
Yeah, but when you pickaxe someone in the chest and try leaving them locked away in a prison world, you can't expect them to be happy with you.
Jo has the most depressing life her brother murdered her on her wedding day 😭
Spoiler alert.
I AM NOT CRYING🥺😭
I felt so bad for Kai in this scene in TVD
2:10 unexpected asmr 😂
just saying he deserved better 😩💔
Agreed
They put the scene back in which I am so happy about
i'm bawling my eyes out rn help
I had started to like kai until he killed jo that is unforgivable
I dont wanna go there, but this scene could have been used to portray Jo and her version of events (that led to the massacre) as an unreliable narrator. A traumatized victim, but not knowing the full story.
Felt sorry for him even
Jo have a right to be angry at kai
I love Kai!!! Honestly that’s why I couldn’t finished the show .. I stopped at season 7 🧍🏻♀️
I hate Kai for what he did to Jo.. 😕 You is my favourite Character and I love her.
Michi Fischi fuck jo kai is best
Ace of Knaves that’s not logic
I love Kai as well but
In reality he couldn’t be anywhere near me
He literally killed his 4 of siblings cause his parents didn’t want him
Then tried to kill two 6 years olds
And tried to kill two 3 year olds
Fuck u how could u hate kai
Haifaa Yousef because he killed her
Tori bubu rightfully so
I remember this in the show idk why they deleted it it was the best got me crying in my feelings🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
But why is Chris playing all these broken characters... 🥺
How is Mon-EL broken?
I swear I wonder how good Jodi Lyn O’Keefe would’ve done if she was playing the villain cuz the way she played Gretchen in Prison Break dawg I tell you
I swear I’ve seen this in the show
Why does everyone give the Kai's so much understanding and empathy and defend everything they do but hate the Elena's and judge everything they do?
Bc they think they're hot, interesting, and likable while ppl think elena is boring and annoying. It's the same reason almost everyone hates matt but love the male psychos/villains when matt barely did anything wrong
Matt and Elena: Die to save the friends they love.
People: God, so annoying. Hate them.
Kai: I'm going to slaughter babies and children and laugh at their mothers as I do it.
People again: Oh my gosh, he so sexy and good looking. He had it really hard in his childhood, he just wanted power.
People WTF?!?
There is no good reason for deleting this scene ✨
THE MOUTH NOISES HE MAKES😍😍😩
Kai Parker should've been in the originals and once he should've faced off Klaus
Yes
Hey, I’ve been looking for this for a long time. Where did you get it? Was it from the DVD/Blu-Ray or from the internet?😅
JO POPPED-
Why did they cut this out the ep
people say that this scene should have been added to give Kai a redemption arc but personally i think its better he didnt have a redemption arc and i think actually having him end up with bonnie would be really stupid imo
but this scene still should have been added because even without redeeming him just showing parts of his struggles would have been great
Now that I’m older, looking back at this scene, they made the right call by deleting it. Because some believe that this scene would make him look more like the victim or, “misunderstood,” when really, it just makes him look even worse and adds onto every point of him being a sociopath/narcissist.
He only wanted Jo to empathize with him despite the shit he put her and her siblings through. He doesn’t acknowledge the fact that she had every right to feel the way she did abt him or the fact that he DID kill innocent children despite his sob story. The problem is, so many fans want to shift the blame onto literally anyone other than kai because they’re blinded by thejr fantasies. Y’all did the same thing w katherine, the originals, etc.
Normalize not calling every villain misunderstood instead of evil as a way to downplay their crimes, instead, ADMITTING that these characters ARE evil, it’s just the unfortunate circumstances of life molded them into the beings that they are now. That’s why we appreciate them as characters.
All these deleted scenes ridiculous they should have figured out a way to fit some of them in the show
Maybe he was the "black sheep" because he murdered his siblings?
He was actually shunned as a child growing up and treated with a ten feet pool
@@mazza.d for being a siphoner. And a sociopath. So yeah still a murderer
@@CarpeNoctem1864 did you ever think that isolation turned him into a sociopath and being treated as a outsider or abomination
@@mazza.d nope. Being a sociopath is a mental disorder. His neglectful upbringing didn't help but it didn't make him a monster either. Stop defending a remorseless killer
@@CarpeNoctem1864 it is a mental disorder, however you can be born a sociopath and turned into one. Not having human interactions can make one crazy
Kai was meant to be a complete monster Pre Merging with Luke
They should’ve kept this
Im crying
I feel like I seen this scene in the show
Why do you delete this scene
I wish they would’ve made Kai’s character crazier and less easy to kill
baby🥺
Why did they deleted this?
i see why they deleted it.
they don't want people to have symphaty for kai, if this scene was out there people would love and symphatize with kai more and he would be basically another damon and klaus, show wanted kai to stay as a sociopath, not a tragic villian.
Personally I would have kept this scene in the show but reworked it to be *after* Kai and Luke's merge.
I actually saw this in the show
2:13 should we tell her😀
WHY THIS IS DELETED. If it wasn't the whole show would change
Episode?
6x15
but it’s deleted
@@nataliekoltz6498 it's a deleted scene from 6x15
and i oop yeah ik thats what i was saying
@@umchileanywaysso7246 is this the ep she dies too.
kai
Типичные ссоры брата и сестры
I don’t remember this scene.
Ok but like I know she went thru a lot but she should give her brother a chance at least and not make him feel like more of a freak which he’s not
Facts
Kai and Elena
Before anyone else sticks up for how evil he is, he was eVil from birth we know they hates siphon witches but he was the one taking they're magic, killing the siblings he was overall a evil psyco what you saw was him trying to make Jo munipulated no one likes kai caus of how he was not just a siphoner
Kai was born into a family that didn't want him simply because he was different. Ever since he was little he was not allowed to touch anyone or be touched by anyone in fear of his powers, he had no one in his family. And as a little child that's really traumatic, he didn't get to learn how it feels to be loved or anything, children copy actions from their parents so he treates others how they treated him, which caused even more mutual hate. He had to watch his twin sister always get praised, and made feel special and he wasn't. He was told his whole life that he is weak, worthless and would just be there for his sister to win in the end. He was made to feel that she was better and stronger but then he realized that he is the stronger one and that his siphon powers would actually make him win. And then suddenly that was taken from him, the only thing that would made him be respected, and appreciated was ripped away from him, purposefully by his parents. The people that mentally and possibly physically abused him since he was born. They just kept on having kids until they got another set of twins that would insure that Kai never gets the position of a coven leader. A child that was isolated their whole life, that was made to feel like trash, couldn't learn any social skills or any normal human reactions, he was made into a monster with only one thing he cared about and then that was ripped away from him which caused the mental breakdown and him murdering his siblings, of course there is no excuse for that, there is never an excuse for murder but you can't exactly blame him from that. He was conditioned to become a monster, was treated like one and then they expected him to not become one? He was a black sheep long before he murdered his siblings or showed any sociopathic traits, his family excluded him since the day they knew what he could do. Then for twenty years he was shunned in a prison world, no human interactions, no animal interactions, just him in his own mind. There was no time or an opportunity for him to learn or become better. That caused a mentality ill person to go even more insane. He in his entire life never got to learn any social skills or follow any actual good examples and people expected him to just act and be normal? He finally decided he wanted to change after everything went down, he finally wanted to be the person he wanted to be and then Bonnie, the person he wanted to change for, did the same thing to him, as his parents did. Locked in a prison world. That's major trauma right there. He saw that no matter what he does, he will be looked at as a monster so he gave up. He returned with that mindset and killed Jo. I am postive that if they actually helped him, his first reaction wouldn't be to kill Jo and the twins but to find a solution.
And if you are going to judge him for killing his siblings or anyone for that matter, keep the same energy with Damon, Stefan, Klaus, Elena, Elijah, Caroline or any person in that show, because every single one did almost the same if not worse. In first three episodes Damon killed more people then Kai did in his whole life. He killed Lexi who did nothing to him, he killed Jeremy(he didn't die but Damon didn't know that) and many other people with his humanity on and off, he raped Caroline no ifs, ands and buts. Stefan was the literal ripper, he killed so many people. Elena killed many as well. Klaus killed Jenna, Tylers mom and massacered covens and wolf packs. And if you are going to sit there, ignoring that or forgiving them, you are being a hypocrite. And if you even try to say they had their humanity off, well guess what, that's what its like for Kai too, he his whole life feels like his humanity is off but the only difference is all of them chose to turn it off, knowing the consequences, Kai didn't have that choice. His family conditioned him into becoming a sociopath and when he wanted to change ans be better, to help, no one believed him. Everyone forgave Damon, Stefan, Klaus etc and gave them an opportunity to change, to show they can be different, but they didn't do the same with Kai, he knew that he can't do anything to change their opinion.
So don't sit there and say he was a black sheep because of what he did, no he did all of that because he was the black sheep.
@@sicklysweet2838 oh my god you explained Kai's character better than everyone in the comments, i fucking love you
@@acidodesossiribonucleico2820
@@sicklysweet2838 YES EXACTLY!
@@sicklysweet2838 Dude, Elena killed Kol which killed thousands upon thousands of just random vampires, many of whom could have been goid, just to get Jeremy's tattoo completed to get the cure so she could become human again ... and EVERYBODY was ok with all those deaths and they still considered themselves the "good guys"? Kai just wanted to off the ppl who hurt him or got in his way. He was made into a sociopath due do lack of positive human interaction n touch as a child, teen, young adult, and prison world. Sorry but how he felt about getting revenge on his "family" was actually pretty understandable. You can't lock little kids away from social interactions, touch, positive feedback, it drives them crazy, wild, sociopathic. He was a product of his family's actions towards him. Then to be locked away 100% by himself in a prison world? Um yeah, he was out for revenge, and it was quite understandable if you know if a little bit about psychology. Wish they would have continued his redemption story but he already was moving on to another show unfortunately.
0:04
Chris wood is actually from dublin ohio like me.
Y'all know they hooked up before 😏
they’re siblings what-
uh what? aren't they twins or something?
@@Oliviaalsten im saying in real life 😂😂 that's what ppl were saying
@@kayleeblackman8944 ppl said irl they did
They haven’t that’s just a rumor and it’s not any of your business what they do behind the camera let them have privacy y’all are so obsessed it’s embarrassing
When he was being abused didn’t she say anything he is her twin brother 🙁
I don't understand the sence????
The kai character he love so much his sister Jo that he felt betrayed by his brothers and sisters.
Kai is as annoying as if his speech of I'm the son that no one wanted fixes for killing his brothers
WTF! Why they deleted it? 🧍🏻♀️