So good. Love the humility. I picked up the sax when covid happened and I just play every day without a teacher but definitely no pro but playing from the heart and just listen to music that relates to playing. Glad I found your channel. These lesson will help me so much
@@davegoodsax Hello Dave, I’m just a complete beginner, I’m 35 and I always looking for wisdom that can provide only highly experienced people like you. Your videos are like water in desert!
@@davegoodsax I’m curious about so many details of playing, too many questions sir! For example I do overtones on low B flat : I can produce octave, fifth, and next octave, but I can’t do the same over low C, I feel like mouthpiece is shutting down. Why?
@@xrgiokmaybe you are over-blowing low C? Try going from the first partial on Bb immediately to the first partial on C...if you can get the Bb partial then your air/embochure are right on and the C partial should blow freely. But sometimes we make micro adjustments and try to force results with a tighter embochure instead of using air speed. LMK if this helps.
I’ve improvised on alto and tenor for years without fully understanding what I was doing. A few months ago I started properly schooling myself with scales, chords and reading music again. Huge difference in my playing. I even learned the doodle! Thanks for all of your help!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Mor and more, I am re-thinking the age-old method books and putting ear traing and memory work ahead of scale studies for students of pop music.
Thank's Dave, needed to hear this, have been playing, practising now for around 3 years, mostly selftought, feel I got stuck as you said in scales amd so on, are coping a bit with improvising and play along by ear with other hornplayers but think I reach a level were I don't come forward, so great advice from you 🎷
Thanks for your insights...I think most all of us hit that wall. I'm glad you play music with friends ... what it's all about, yes? Next jam, try this: record yourself, listen back later, and focus in on one aspect you'd like to improve. Just one 😊
@@davegoodsax I’m a player that relies heavily on hands on playing I’m not fast on my academics yet . But the things you mentioned is something I needed to hear as I always feel the lack of schooling like the people I play with who have years of experience. the singing has been a huge factor in me learning songs. Basically it’s like you’re letting me know I’m doing okay in my journey..
Nice discussion Dave. I recently listened to a talk/discussion by Joe Henderson given some time ago at the University of North Texas (it's on RUclips). One of the questions asked was regarding Henderson's thoughts regarding The Real Book, which was very much an "under the counter" request at your local music store. Joe's response was there was no Real Book for him when he was learning how to play. He had to figure out the songs by ear, so these books are shortcuts in his opinion. However, he also acknowledged that they are useful and have their place, but the bigger point was that he gained much more by taking the time to figure songs out using only his ears. Additionally, I heard Bob Mover say that he didn't have access to records and he would have to listen to a song during a live performance, and then he would try to remember it so he could figure it out when he got home. Last time I took a lesson, I told the teacher I wanted to improvise better, and he made me sing everything. I don't like singing, I don't like the sound of my voice, and I still struggle to do it every day, but now I notice this advice being give out more often, and I realize how important it really is. My 2024 goals are to do much more transcriptions and ear training/singing.
Happy New Year, and thanks for your input. Quite often as a kud sax player, I'd hear something on my little AM radio and I'd sing it over and over until I could get to my horn. This practice, as it turns out, was the best thing I could have done. And yes, my singing really sucks.
This is great. Thank you! I'm a beginner player. Not even close to competent at reading. I have a good ear but not a good memory. If I hear a tune that I like (and that isn't super chromatic or irregular) enough times (40? 50?) I can memorize the melody and can FEEL the chords (that's the way I think of it) It occurred to me recently that if I could learn to finger the basic notes - ALL OF THEM - on the alto then, with enough practice & repetition playing the right note would be as almost as easy as singing or hearing the right note in my head. Which, for me, would be easier than learning scales. I think it's the only way I'll actually be able to progress.
Thanks for sharing this. Thanks for playing examples off the cuff. I'm probably similar age to you, but have recently come back to tenor sax, and was already doing basically what you advised, and that gives me good warm vibes, I just haven't lived in jazz circles at all so everything I play sounds more like clarinet music.
What a great lesson that I totally can appreciate! I’m an old guy now and have just picked up playing again after many years absence. My approach has always been just to play along to any kind of music that I enjoy! I have never practiced scales! Thanks for sharing and I will fellow you to see what other interesting ideas you might come up with 👍🏻
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with our RUclips family. Agreed, many among us just want to play our favorite songs....and songs are built from scales.
So good. Love the humility. I picked up the sax when covid happened and I just play every day without a teacher but definitely no pro but playing from the heart and just listen to music that relates to playing. Glad I found your channel. These lesson will help me so much
Rock on!
What a man of knowledge, thank you!
Stuff I've picked up along the way....how's your improvising coming along?
@@davegoodsax Hello Dave, I’m just a complete beginner, I’m 35 and I always looking for wisdom that can provide only highly experienced people like you. Your videos are like water in desert!
@@xrgiok are there any questions you want answers to? Thanks for being there
@@davegoodsax I’m curious about so many details of playing, too many questions sir! For example I do overtones on low B flat : I can produce octave, fifth, and next octave, but I can’t do the same over low C, I feel like mouthpiece is shutting down. Why?
@@xrgiokmaybe you are over-blowing low C? Try going from the first partial on Bb immediately to the first partial on C...if you can get the Bb partial then your air/embochure are right on and the C partial should blow freely. But sometimes we make micro adjustments and try to force results with a tighter embochure instead of using air speed. LMK if this helps.
I’ve improvised on alto and tenor for years without fully understanding what I was doing. A few months ago I started properly schooling myself with scales, chords and reading music again. Huge difference in my playing. I even learned the doodle! Thanks for all of your help!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Mor and more, I am re-thinking the age-old method books and putting ear traing and memory work ahead of scale studies for students of pop music.
Thank's Dave, needed to hear this, have been playing, practising now for around 3 years, mostly selftought, feel I got stuck as you said in scales amd so on, are coping a bit with improvising and play along by ear with other hornplayers but think I reach a level were I don't come forward, so great advice from you 🎷
Thanks for your insights...I think most all of us hit that wall. I'm glad you play music with friends ... what it's all about, yes? Next jam, try this: record yourself, listen back later, and focus in on one aspect you'd like to improve. Just one 😊
This was wonderful information thanks!!
Thanks for your feedback, and let us know how today's lesson helps unleash your inner soloist.
@@davegoodsax I’m a player that relies heavily on hands on playing I’m not fast on my academics yet . But the things you mentioned is something I needed to hear as I always feel the lack of schooling like the people I play with who have years of experience. the singing has been a huge factor in me learning songs. Basically it’s like you’re letting me know I’m doing okay in my journey..
You are doing better than okay....trust the process. @@Ihbaworldsax
Nice discussion Dave. I recently listened to a talk/discussion by Joe Henderson given some time ago at the University of North Texas (it's on RUclips). One of the questions asked was regarding Henderson's thoughts regarding The Real Book, which was very much an "under the counter" request at your local music store. Joe's response was there was no Real Book for him when he was learning how to play. He had to figure out the songs by ear, so these books are shortcuts in his opinion. However, he also acknowledged that they are useful and have their place, but the bigger point was that he gained much more by taking the time to figure songs out using only his ears. Additionally, I heard Bob Mover say that he didn't have access to records and he would have to listen to a song during a live performance, and then he would try to remember it so he could figure it out when he got home. Last time I took a lesson, I told the teacher I wanted to improvise better, and he made me sing everything. I don't like singing, I don't like the sound of my voice, and I still struggle to do it every day, but now I notice this advice being give out more often, and I realize how important it really is. My 2024 goals are to do much more transcriptions and ear training/singing.
Happy New Year, and thanks for your input. Quite often as a kud sax player, I'd hear something on my little AM radio and I'd sing it over and over until I could get to my horn. This practice, as it turns out, was the best thing I could have done. And yes, my singing really sucks.
This is great. Thank you!
I'm a beginner player. Not even close to competent at reading. I have a good ear but not a good memory. If I hear a tune that I like (and that isn't super chromatic or irregular) enough times (40? 50?) I can memorize the melody and can FEEL the chords (that's the way I think of it) It occurred to me recently that if I could learn to finger the basic notes - ALL OF THEM - on the alto then, with enough practice & repetition playing the right note would be as almost as easy as singing or hearing the right note in my head. Which, for me, would be easier than learning scales. I think it's the only way I'll actually be able to progress.
Hey Karl, yours is a great process!! Thanks for sharing...
Thanks for sharing this. Thanks for playing examples off the cuff. I'm probably similar age to you, but have recently come back to tenor sax, and was already doing basically what you advised, and that gives me good warm vibes, I just haven't lived in jazz circles at all so everything I play sounds more like clarinet music.
Thanks for the feedback. Happy New Year!
What a great lesson that I totally can appreciate! I’m an old guy now and have just picked up playing again after many years absence. My approach has always been just to play along to any kind of music that I enjoy! I have never practiced scales! Thanks for sharing and I will fellow you to see what other interesting ideas you might come up with 👍🏻
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with our RUclips family. Agreed, many among us just want to play our favorite songs....and songs are built from scales.
i think learn your minor and major pentatonic scales they are everywhere
Same problem I’ll memorize scales but I can’t retain them in my head
I feel your pain, John.