LIVE UPDATES: American Airlines Flight, & Blackhawk Helicopter COLLIDE, No Survivors + MORE | EP 51
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- LIVE UPDATES: American Airlines Flight, & Blackhawk Helicopter COLLIDE, No Survivors + MORE | EP 51
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I’m retired from the aviation industry in the Northeast. I can tell you from what I observed in the video, my first thought was (and I hope I’m wrong) but it looks as if that helicopter intentionally went out of the flight plan. Praying that I’m wrong, but my gut and experience is telling me something isn’t right here
100%
1. Warning Kennedy
2. Look what countries were those poor souls from
I don't think you're wrong for feeling suspicious. I wonder myself.
YOU ARE WRONG.
Pull your conspiracy theory heads out of your butts PLEASE.
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
My prayers go out to all those involved. God give them strength to endure this terrible loss.
Amen❤
That man who had been waiting to greet his wife and he was texting his wife and then his last text was not received... Oh MY My heart broke for him.
Yes but this guy wants to sell you his CONspriracy. He went from a left to a right now a ???? He’s a cop. lol.
I started to panick because I just now found out about this and my mother works in d.c and she travels back and forth a lot, she wasn’t answering her calls and I started freaking out, thank god about 10 minutes later she answered so she is fine. I couldn’t imagine how I’d deal with this situation if she was on that plane.
Thank God your Mom is safe! 🙏🏻
@@Dimpl3z.thank you
Right my ex-husband is a pilot for American Airlines. We may not be married, but I don’t want him to crash. That’s for sure.
Happy to hear your Mom is okay
She travels back and forth from Kansas? The plane came from Kansas. Oh my! Glad she is ok
No expert, just visually, the BlackH seems to make a beeline for the Plane, with no deviation whatsoever.
Most likely they were looking at the other plane and thought the tower was talking about that plane and supposedly the helicopter had priority and the plane was behind them you can see it the plane had plenty of time to pull up
I am an expert. It was a tragic accident.
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
The mainstream media asks some of the dumbest questions 🤦♂️
And conspiracy theory idiots say some stupid stuff.
@@rallen7294At least they think for themselves instead of being a sheep and believing everything they tell you to believe!!
MSNBC
They Aren't Theories when they are proven Correct... Stop Acting like a Liberal and just wait until the Investigation is Complete.
That's their job to deflect.
I don't have a problem with him going off on dei and the issues in the dot. This is what I voted for
@@djkoolkel7185 especially with positions as this. Any position that could potentially lead to danger should be based on total qualifications. I'm not saying these persons were dei hires, because I don't know the qualifications of these persons but I'm just saying it's COMMON SENSE to hire only the most qualified for these kinds of jobs. I certainly don't want an air traffic controller or pilot who is not the very best. I have a good female friend who is a pilot and she has the qualifications. Just like fire fighters. If you can't run into a flaming 🔥 house and PICK up my mother, you shouldn't be there. This includes females, if you can't pull a water hose (nope)😧. This is not a job for a weak person male or female.
Exactly!! Trump and most of us don't have time fa with these ignorant Democrats. This is how I want him to be.
Same! And I'm so happy that he is keeping his word.
I dont mind DEI being examined because its nonsense but I would like to know what actually happened first.
I fully support Trump. However, his mouth does get him into trouble. This was not the appropriate time for him to go into all of that. This is a time to support the families who lost a loved one!! He should have saved that for different time. IMO
This is so horrible and just heart Breaking ❤ God Bless these people who lost thier life in this accident.
We lost some Amazing ice skaters and thier coaches who were on this plane. They were coming home from a trip were they train for skating.
These ice skaters were some of the Best in the World and so were thier coaches❤❤❤❤
Rest in Peace beautiful souls ❤❤❤❤
Amen
Thoughts are with the families of this tragic accident
Trump is very calculated. He knows this is a DEI issue here and that Will come to light. Watch. He’s a genius
A genius? You clown. You have Orange dust around your mouth and in your throat.
Where is the proof ?? He has no clues what’s going on
Moronic comment… quit acting like Trump is a God
Trump probably already had intel on who the pilot of the helicopter was.
After he watched that video, I'm sure Trump's first question was who flying heli.
As someone who has experienced flights in blackhawks in Afghanistan I can promise you they saw that plane especially with NVG’s not buying it
Thank you for your service
I respect that. 100%
They just got routed to another approach, busy air traffic area.
My assumption. Assumption, nothing more, is that they listened to traffic control but were looking at the wrong aircraft?
@@Mike_D_5150 let’s see what the investigation says… I hope it’s nothing more than a miscommunication but most importantly my heart goes out to the families of the fallen.
Not unless it really is a DEI hired that wasn’t qualified.
@@russrtspooling7702 "I experienced flights in Blackhawks" so you can PROMISE they saw the plane??? REALLY??? You actually believe yourself? Good lord Jesus.
I have a career flying army helicopters...still do. I've flown in one of this unit's Blackhawks...on this exact air corridor...at night even. You're talking out your arse brother.
Thank you for your service but "experiencing flights" DOES NOT allow you to make such a call brother.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA, but it doesn't seem that the RJ knew about the helo.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
As the plane turned to land the landing lights may very well have washed out the NVGs the Hawk pilots had causing momentary disorientation.
I'm a career army helo pilot...a can almost put myself in that situation thinking it through...a horrible accident
Your comment is irresponsible.
Damn people! Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
I’m with you Brandon on wishing POTUS would speak compassion and give the country time to grieve. Once the evidence shows it was DEI that caused this tragedy then so be it.
So sad! prayers for these families.😢😞
This was deliberate, if audio tapes are being kept. Then we gotta know who was on the plane.
YOU ARE WRONG
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
He definitely said some very sweet things at the beginning. You really need to watch it all. Cut up again is all. He's tired of the incompetent ppl and he wants answers for them ASAP. As we all would.
My heart goes out to everyone involved. God bless ❤
I "personally" think, that Every Aspect of this incident, should looked at VERY Closely!
🇳🇱🇨🇦
I caught the news about this last night. So when I tuned in this morning, listening to the flight path “including ATC” My Spidey senses immediately went off. I am a pilot, and knowing what really went down on 911, there so many holes in this story, I can write a mini novel already. They just happened to swap from runway 01 to runway “33” last minute? Why is the Black Hawk’s radio messages with tower missing in first audio release this morning? So Many Question I Have?
Apparently that’s a normal thing at that airport especially at busy times. So not unusual. The jet was perfectly on path and never saw helicopter probably. Helicopter must have misjudged or panicked. Too many unknowns right now.
I was thinking the same thing supposed to hear both responding...💯💯🎯👍
@@skyycamsays who?
@@Gumdrops8739 says pilots that fly there. Because so many inbound and outbound planes in order to keep things flowing they have them hop over to the next runway so the other one can be used to take off or have another plane land. Maybe a larger one that needs longer runway. I watch a lot of pilots channels and a couple of them had mentioned that that’s what they’ve had to whn flying in there.
@@Care-o9i in other videos they said that military aircraft talk on a different channel than civilian or commercial. They were talking to them u just didn’t hear it on that main recording.
Usually when news is broadcast all over and they talk about it constantly, it’s a distraction to take attention off of something else that they don’t want you to know. I’ve been following conspiracy theories for a long time and recognize patterns especially when the story doesn’t add up:
With a little work CNN can figure out a way to blame Trump for the JFK assassination.
@@neo7566 yep
They already are
CNN constant negative news
@@kimleone5496 😧😂
What about the anti collision system on both aircraft. They both should have gotten warnings at 5 to 2 miles apart.
They might get alerts but the way it works is it tells each one to either go high or go low. Problem is in this situation they were already too low. I believe below 1000 ft or so they won’t give a command just an alert.
💯💯🎯
The collision system doesn't work under 1000 ft but they all have radar of airtraffic around them.
He helicopter does not have the anti-collison technology. They said it lastnight
Don't be a nut job conspiracy theorist... especially if you're not an aviator...
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
Army helos typically don't have proximity warning systems.
I'm a career army helo pilot...a can almost put myself in that situation thinking it through...a horrible accident
Damn people! Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
Trump was right for saying this. It may turn out that DEI wasn't a factor in this one, but it will be a factor soon.
When it comes to aviation, we don't need diversity, we need the best qualified, no matter who they are.
Hey B. Tatum. I really love the " theme song " you have for your lives. Every one I watch, I sit here at my desk, singing along!
Please continue to share how you handle hard situations. It helps just hearing others struggle with bad choices and what you can say to yourself to stop before doing something dumb.
Love your point on wasted breath talking about things we Dont know yet 👏🏼 you’re the realest and best out there🫡❤️🤍💙
If the airplane was established on final approach and the helicopter entered its path unexpectedly, the helicopter may be at fault.
It is atc asked twice if they had eyes on them and they said yes and bypass behind them they weren't on the standard flight pattern for the helicopter
No maybe they were definitely at fault they were responsible for visual separation.
@@rickcoleman8903 I wonder if the chopper saw only the 2nd plane? I don't know though, how could you miss that huge plane. They need to get the drones out of the sky as well. They are everywhere and too huge to be a child's toy. They are commercial. They have been in my neighborhood for over a month. Sometimes I see choppers flying very close.
99.9999999999% of the time night flight they use NVGs and that looking into landing lights would be like looking into the sun
@rickcoleman8903 It has been said the helicopter was first told to watch for a plane taking off and then mistook the first plane taking off for the second plane landing.
The official story doesn't make much sense. The crashed helicopter was VH-60, a modified executive variant of the Blackhawk. I think it's called the Whitehawk, which is usually used to carry top brass. This is significant because it likely departed from CIA HQ. They say nobody noteworthy was aboard but my trust in that is extremely low. There is big moves happening behind the scenes.
And the plane had a whole Russian delegation. This doesn't pass the smell test.
@@arielr9614no there was NO "Russian delegation". There were 2 Russian Ice Skating champions who were in the USA training Olympic ice skaters.
@arielr9614 that's part of my conspiracy theory. Hope it's not proved true, but that's what I'm thinking.
Just smacks of human error.
@@Sparkchaser91 given the actual prospects of Trump managing to end the war in Ukraine I'm sure there are a good many in the deep state who would love nothing more than to sour those plans and if a delegation from Russia can be removed from the picture then the whole thing makes sense and is likely true. My fingers are crossed its just some fantastic mistake but it's 2025. Can't think like that.
My CONDOLENCES to ALL OF THE PEOPLE and their FAMILIES who are involved in this sad time and loss of lives ❤ 🙏❤👃❤🙏❤👃❤🙏❤👃❤.
I'm ex military, and I thought exactly the same thing as you Officer Tatum . Especially seeing the helo come up from behind. If it was intentional, I pray that the truth is revealed quickly. My prayers go out to the families of all victims. Truly sad.
There are still lots of democrats working behind the scenes. Trump been in office only 10 days.
@@VRMcK officer Tatum is great...but like you, lacks the experience about flying a helicopter to give any valuable input to the cause.
Wow it looked as if the helicopter flew directly into the plane.
Yep, just like the Germanwings co-pilot flew that commercial airliner into the Alps in 2015-Pure Evil intent!
It reminded me of 911 when the plane intentionally headed directly to the twin towers!
My prayer and condolences the families . ✝️🙏🏻😢
To me it looks like the helicopter picks up speed as it gets closer. I am VERY SUSPICIOUS of those in the helicopter. A sad tragedy...prayers to the friends and families and eternal rest and peace to the victims.
That's exactly what I thought, I was looking and I said that helicopter looks like it's going faster and headed right for the plane when in actuality from what I observed it would've had plenty of time to get out of the way by turning in another direction. IDK I hope I'm wrong bc u would hate to think they did this intentionally.
Said the same thing.
You are absolutely correct. Flight paths and landing zones are different from take-off zones
Trump didn’t jump the gun he is 100% right as always
@@Anonymous-ze4sx um, no… he is NOT always right… nobody is
There is no way anyone could have known the cause of the crash that quickly. If there is one thing I could wish on Trump, it is to just keep quiet sometimes.
I absolutely love President Trump but I have to agree with you on that one, but he probably has more Intel about the crews & tower crews than we do. I'm hoping & praying this wasn't intentional by the helicopter😭💔
@ we’ll see soon. I didn’t mean it so literally but take it how you want. We’ll see when it comes back as human error and then rather or not that human was competent for the job they were doing or not.
I LOVE DJT...But as a career army helo pilot I was cringing at his comments...he was wrong. But I still love him. MAGA
REGAN AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST AIRPORTS IN THE WORLD 🌍
GOD BLESS ALL THESE FAMILIES ❤❤❤❤❤
Who the hell would do a training flight at night over a busy airport? That doesnt sound like it would be legal
Bc that’s their job and area of operation. They all have to do annual training to maintain their skills and credentials. These pilots are amazing.
I feel someone on the Blackhawk was compromised
I kinda have that bad feeling 😢
Any of us could be threatened and we'd do whatever they said. If terrorists came to me and said they would kidnap and torture my family members if I don't do what they say, I don't know what I'd do. That would be an absolutely excruciating decision. Terrorists are called terrorists because they cause terror and they back it up with their violence. Do you try to save you family but kill 67 innocent people? Or do you lose everyone you love in the worst way possible and save 67 innocent people. It's a question I hope I never have to answer and one that would keep you p at nights wondering. If it was just my life on the line, I could probably do the right thing, but when they start threatening your family, would it change your mind? I'm no James Bond and couldn't figure a way out. I would hope to do the right thing but I couldn't guarantee.
Same here 😢
Don't be a nut job conspiracy theorist... especially if you're not an aviator...
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
I'm a career army helo pilot...a can almost put myself in that situation thinking it through...a horrible accident
Damn people! Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
@@rallen7294ok how many times you going to post your rant? Enough you don’t know what happened it could be which you think it’s not!!!!
Flight log and passenger list?
It definitely looked deliberate the helicopter had enough time to change its trajectory…
The question is who was on that plane
Ice skater's and coaches coming back from an ice skating event in Kansas. 🙏🕊️
@ Dear God 🙏
@@celestialskye1 that's what we are being told, but is it the truth? or was there other occupants that have not been mentioned
@@celestialskye1 there were Russians on the plane allegedly
You aren't going to see me on an airplane just for that reason. If i can't drive or take a ship, i ain't going.
I disagree with you! Trump is mad and I don't blame him. This crash seems very very crappy. A DIVERSE group of air traffic controllers is BULL! QUALIFIED IS ALL THAT MATTERS!
I thought the same thing as you. That was threading a needle type of deal. The speed of each aircraft clearly speaks of a pilot suicide as the pilot did not reply to the tower right before the crash.
Kinda strange how less than 24 hours before this crash, a F35 crashed at a base in Alaska
Nah, he said what he needs to say. I think he is 💯 right.
So sad, R.i.P to all 🙏🏻
It would take a hell of an investigation to find out if this was intentional
Helicopters have clear view.. they said it was a clear sky.. Why would the helicopter pilot fly straight into a plane that was on a landing path? The plane had landing lights on and everything.. The plane would’ve stood out like a sore thumb to the helicopter pilots.. There needs to be an investigation into the people on the helicopter and the people on the plane
At night coming from the side they wouldn’t have seen much. Couple flashing lights and darkness. Also the bright glaring lights on the ground probably didn’t help. I guarantee the jet pilots never seen the helicopter at all. The jet was literally 30 seconds from landing was around 400 feet above ground.
NTSB will definitely investigate.
They are gone you mean investigation of their background...
@@Care-o9i no shit
The helicopter flight path required that the helicopter stay below 200 feet above the ground. The radar data showed the helicopter at 300 feet above the ground.
Before the crash it was at 400.
FACT 1: You will NEVER know the TRUTH about what happened... Blackhawk helicopters dont go joy riding around the whitehouse.
FACT 2: When the govt tell you its a training exercise... you know its not.
FACT 3: disregard your facts. This was an annual proficiency training exercise and happens all the time when your job is doing things like PAT missions here in the National Capital Region, as my flier husband does.
If you see the drawing of where they were and the path they took, when the air traffic controller told the Blackhawk to go behind the jet, the Blackhawk turned into the jet
There was also another plane taking off in the line of sight of the helicopter..
@@mama13bugs I only heard the air traffic controller ask if they saw the plane. He never gave a path which should have been done. It's possible when asked if you see the plane, they were looking at the second plane??? There were 2 planes in sight. I may be wrong but that is what was reported all night.
you know when i first was watch the news last night they said they had 4 people alive i was thinking it had to be the helicopter. but today they are saying they are all dead. i mean i even listen to the radio thing they had on twitter and the people were saying we pulled out 4 survivors. i went and try to find the audio recording that had them saying they pull 4 survivors and asking for ambulance. But i cannot find it now. it's like gone.
I think they did that to control situation for families looking at media for answers.
You didn't see or hear it on Twitter, just saying ,
Must be because there is an alarm going off in a helicopter whenever there is a plane nearby. And that happens when the plane is far far away. So this must be intentional.
Tatum, if President Trump wants to get petty, let him. I know this time around he's definitely not playing with these ignorant reports. What you said, you should have kept it to yourself. If I was Trump, I would tell them something that's not allowed on TV, so he can say whatever he wants.
💯👊agreed!
Folks just died... the last anyone wants to hear from the President is this.
O my Heart breaking😢. So very sorry to victims.
Seems fishy to me my guy
He has receipts on people's character business operations and service industries
They all know what happened and Trump has insider information. He never would have said anything if he didn’t know!! Reporters are always looking for a gotcha!! It happened last night, it’s time to call out what happened. He gave condolences to families last night!!
CNN is crying racism because Trump mentioned DEI. crazy
No one knows more about aircraft crashes than Donald Trump!
This is why we need term limits and age limits whenever i see Congress ask questions most are dumb its like im in a nursing home activity room. They ask questions and wont stop being rude and interrupting or answering the questions they ask they wont let nominees speak.
I'm 65next month. I am had a easy life. My dad was a army air force veteran. I did a lot of bad stuff and now I am a born again Christian.
Im a stay home mom and wife, and i have to say, this last year has been the BEST TV of my lifetime. Who needs soaps when ya got the folks of politics bringing ALL THE DRAMA 😂😂
Blame Trump? He wasn't a pilot or air traffic controller. How?
I listened to a YT video called the issue about the plane and helicopter crash. The guy they interviewed is a pilot with other credentials. He said what he noticed is that ATC had 2 planes landing on 2 different runways at the same time. ATC asked, "Do you see the plane?" Helicopter confirms. He also said the way the helicopter was flying in, they would be looking to their right. Very unfortunate ATC did not mention that there were 2 planes landing at the same time. That was his take on it. Will find out more later on. It's so sad. Thoughts and prayers to all affected ❤🙏
How many times have they lied about what he said, come on now. He is probably talking to the families already.
This was the most avoidable crash ever! So much that it doesn't seem like an accident. I mean how incompetent do you have to be to not have this happen. All the fancy equipment, clear vision and the helicopter didn't see the damn plane? So obvious it was on purpose cause that helicopter went straight path to that plane
Where we lived in wNC, there was a training area beyond the mountain. We were walking our new puppy in our development, and out of nowhere ,a Blackhawk was almost on top of us. It moved away, the other direction so fast, I didn't have time to think about what had just happened. They disappeared as fast as it appeared. Our dog didn't even have time to hear it coming.
What happened here yesterday doesn't make sense
Background check on helicopter pilot 🤔. You are a motivational influencer who has the holy Spirit working in you. Confidence compassion and care ✝️. God bless you Officer Tatum 🙏
Where is the first part of President Trump's speech? All of the first part was about the 164 people and the soldiers. He stated that it was now a recovery and not a rescue. According to the people who are handling it on the ground. This is the very last of his speech.
Did you see the President's reaction when he looked up during the moment of silence? I think the first row is going to get a face lift very very soon...
After all that was done to him, he's had enough! I don't blame him and he's right!
This was very suspicious. Extremely. And you touched on the very good points of the collision. They were told to land on a shorter airstrip #33, which they being a smaller aircraft could do. But how could the helicopter "not see" the airplane with landing lights coming into that airport? Strange.
Well ask this how could the air traffic controlman not know another plane was approaching before giving the black hawk ok to land
@@justsaying5753ATC said to go after the plane landing so they obviously knew...
Don't be a nut job conspiracy theorist... especially if you're not an aviator...
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
I'm a career army helo pilot...a can almost put myself in that situation thinking it through...a horrible accident
Damn people! Let's NOT get "conspiracy theory stupid"
My husband was an air traffic controller…this can only be their issue. They are in control of the air space
Many "holes in the Swiss cheese" (as we say in acft accidents) lined up for a very tragic and sad Accident.
The helicopter was 100 feet above the posted altitude for that corridor.
The helicopter and airplane were talking to ATC on 2 different frequencies... not uncommon in a TCA.
The aircraft controller could have stated better "do you see the RJ at your 1 o'clock on short final for 31?"
Night vision goggles are awesome but limit field of view to looking through a toilet paper roll.
When aircraft are at low level it's very easy to lose them in the congestion of city lights.
There were 3 RJ's in the area...One had just taken off 2 were in bound for landing. The helo pilot may have been acknowledging that he saw the wrong plane.
I'm a career army helo pilot...a can almost put myself in that situation thinking it through...a horrible accident
But they are not in control of the pilots
I absolutely love listening to O.T. He is hilarious but very truthful!!
Airtraffic control first told helicopter to watch out for plane taking off. Then changed to having them look out for the landing plane. I think aircraft control wasn't clear enough with the second plane that was landing.
EXACTLY!!!
@@shannancarothers4578 you are correct. Contributing Causes for the accident will likely be found with all 3 entities... air traffic controller, helo pilot, RJ pilot.
it looked like the hellicopter went into the airplane, my thought and prayers to all the family's that lost a loved one in this accident.
The blackhawk flew up and into that plane, rotors hitting the bottom of the plane.. no doubt this was on purpose.. just look at the flight path
notice that the names inside the black hawk have not been released - i'm not gonna pretend i don't think this is a cover up
i have never flown anything in my life, ever - but i do know that the tech on the chopper is next level and designed to prevent this
Tried so hard to blame Trump, and got set Straight with the truth! 🎯
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Did the Blackhawk hit the jet? Like it flew into it, right? That seems crazy
sobbing for these people and their families. there's no way this wasn't intentional. a helicopter didn't see a massive fcking plane with huge lights lighting up the entire area? didnt know they were crossing the path where planes land? don't care if it was a "training flight", that's even more suspicious for multiple reasons. this is sick.
If you work in a group home, you have NO RIGHT to abuse, exploit, or hurt those people. You are a care giver! This is why so many institutions were closed! Horrific behavior, unacceptable.
God bless you brother. Thank you for all you do for others.
The hearings aren't hearings any more. They are grand stands. They don't allow these people to say a word, they just talk over them. The rudeness and talking, shouting, over each other is dispicable. So low class. They have no manners. They have no conscience. They have no integrity. They have no character. I was reminded of the old movie from Orwell's 1984 novel and the two minutes of hate. These Congressmen/women just use their two minutes as their two minutes of hate. They pull out their placards and just drum up hate, trying to get the the crowds to roar "HATE! HATE! HATE DONALD TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS! WE LOVE BIG BROTHER!" And if you pan to Democrat drones, they are swallowing it and ready to shout the HATE, HATE, HATE. We just must be careful, as Republicans, not to do the same. Keep our minds sharp, follow logic and reason things carefully and be willing to ask questions of our leaders. We can't just blindly follow them either. That's why I like you, you think things through and see things logically. And you do it based on the Bible. I'm so proud of you and I pray your continued prosperity. Keep to the godly wisdom and the standard of the Bible and you will be a real success (not just a worldly success). I would love to shake your hand one day. Respect!!!
Ok. So the Standard is there.
Something went wrong.
Could it be Terrorism?
The airline crew's ACAS/TCAS system should have been screaming at the aircrew for a long time.
ACAS - Onboard Aircraft Collision Avoidance System
TCAS - Onboard Terrain Collision Avoidance System
Yes but below certain altitude it doesn’t give a command . If your only 400 ft above ground too risky to say go low etc.
@@skyycam😳😳😮😮👍
@@Care-o9i yep and only asked if they could see the plane or that's what came out so far. More could come out
@skyycam don't need corrective actions from Avoidance systems. The mere fact it was triggered should be enough to place cockpit crew on heightened alert and preparedness for potential emergency action.
TCAS is not on army helos. Can't speak to how the RJ crew was reacting to their TCAS...yet
So sad, so tragic! Senseless and needless!
My prayers go to all their loved ones. ❤🙏
@TheOfficerTatumTV-c3r that is so very true! My husband and I love watching your podcast. Thank you for all you do. You are a good man, of good character, from NH!
My gosh, that looks so intentional from that point of view
We have to consider this might even be a terrorist attack like 911.
Or like the recent terrorist attack in Louisiana .
First and foremost. My prayers go out to the victims and their families. 😥
President Trump has a different attitude this term. Its like ive proved myself and now this is how we are going to do it. ITS Definitely going to get interestingly to see how he handles these next 4 years.
I have about 2000 hours in a blackhawk as a non-rated crew member and I can tell you as easy as aircraft are to see. It’s a big ass sky and it’s just as easy to miss them. I have a handful of times where we have had near miss. If you flown in these aircraft as a crewmember, you can totally understand how me their collisions happen.
Human failure.
Human sabotage
Texting may have caused this freak accident
They do have a lot of technological systems that tells them they are about to collide. ATC asked the helicopter 30 seconds prior to liftoff if he had a visual on the plane. I did not hear the blackhawk respond so its possible he did not hear ATC.. Also, its extremely difficult to see a plane when you are in another aircraft. When you are on the ground and looking up in the sky, it's very easy to see any sized plane. When you are concentrating on taking off you are looking at instruments constantly and going over check lists its hard to see aircraft around you, now you throw in darkness and a busy city as DC with lights everywhere you add in another layer of difficulty. This will be a long investigation but my opinion is the helicopter pilots did not see them.
I think they did answer back(yes) but there were 2 planes and they could have been mistaken. 🙏🙏🙏 For all
Reminds me of people driving with their phone in their hand.
That was helpful not .
We just started 2025 and tragedy after tragedy.
We are living in the 'end times'-even when we get to the point of "peace & safety sudden destruction will take place" -it is written...
All military connections.
I suspect that this was either intentional or negligent. There is NO WAY, that helicopters TCAS system was not going bonkers blaring alarms. It litterally tells the pilot where to go with audio and visual signals. You can not miss it or ignore it. This is bad, really bad.
Except there IS a way bc these PAT Blackhawks don't have TCAS/ADSB.
Army helos do not have TCAS. Now these are unique VIP helos so they might... might.
I'm a career army helo pilot& have flown on this unit's aircraft as a passenger on this route, at night. Ya gotta stop the speculation.
@theofficertatum . All law & air control scanners stated it was an Army Chinook, not Black Hawk.
Unqualified people in air traffic control were responsible, apparently the test to become an air traffic control agent isnt all that difficult bc of certain policies to make things fair for everyone. Watch another video about the ridiculous assement that decides weather or not ur qualified apparently u get more pts on the test for being an athelete then an actual pilot. Also over worked air traffic control agents could have played a role in this tragedy.
ATC DEI hire?? Probably.
I agree...💯💯🎯
@Care-o9i the black box recovery, and finding out the qualifications of both pilots as well as the air traffic controller will also give us more information about how this tragedy happenend. There r to many factors to knw for sure on day 2 of the investigation what the main cause was and who is actually liable for what happenend.
@@jakedevenney8305 I may be wrong but to me Trump hinted to dei. We will know soon.
@Lumberton60 good chance it was the test to take for the air traffic control apparently has a part that is multiple choice a,b,c,d and apparently u r also graded on a system of pts so a pilot w a liscncese would get 4 pts if ur a minority u would automatically get 5 pts if ur an athlete u get 5 pts but if u have a college degree u might only get one pt so instead of being based off qualifications it's basically based off what some wack job decided was more important to create equality, which was a recipe for disaster. I would rather have the college educated person w the degree who trained for the position as opposed to a washed up highschool athlete who got the position simply bc someone didn't like there wasnt enough diversity, there nothing wrong w people working the job from any group bc in the end the only thing that really matters is they actually knw what they r doing. The black boxes from the aircraft should give more insight to the ultimate cause of the accident. Also, another scary fact is planes even if they r missing parts and need matiance, r still allowed to fly, so this could be pilot error, mechanical error, or most like air traffic controller error. For the amount of money 💰 we the average people pay for flying, u would think 🤔 they could bother hiring qualified individuals, lol they have a shortage of fly controllers if that were true why did 3,000 white atc's sue the faa for refusing to hire them based off race and diversity quotas. Accidents like this one were totally avoidable if atc wasn't over worked and people were hired off of merrit and skills as opposed to have we need to make these jobs less white and more diverse. I won't be flying anytime soon but feel bad for those who have too.
Thank you for the “dying to self daily “ reminder.❤
And I believe the Russian nationals were figure skaters
One question. Can the controls of the helicopter be taken over by outside means ? Auto pilot ?
Blackhawk yes