Stankdog shares his 125 2-Stroke Race Bike build secrets! - Gypsy Tales Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2021
- Stankdog has to get the absolute most out of his 125 2-stroke race bikes. On this clip from our 3 hours podcast Stankdog gives us the ultimate 2-stroke race bike build run down!
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Dank!! I wasnt subscribed to that. I am now!! Epic!!
He is 100% right , I had a 2000 RM 125 in 1999. That year or the year before Suzuki went up from a 36 to a 38 and my friend had a 1998 with the 36 and his had a lot more much needed bottom end. The bigger carbs are supposed to make more mid top but the the other was WAY better. Not sure how it compares to the lectron but I can say his info is correct
Question. How come it always seems like there’s a delay between what one person Is saying and what the other person is hearing? Is there latency in your setup or something?
He is so spot on omg, the keihin, shorty, and a proper setup, literally speaking facts on so many levels, bring 2 strokes back
Fuck yes !
Keihin airstriker carb on my Honda 144 is magical
Exactly. Keihin and a shorty all day 👌
Lectron or bust
@@russellambrosini5344 Totally agree with you on the airstriker. I installed it on my 2002 CR Buck Two Five. Night and Day difference. 🤘
I'm a two stroke tuner from the 90s, and I can explain the reason for the carb size difference between 125 and 250. It all comes down to engine RPM, The 125 simply Revs higher. Smaller carburetor bore will improve fuel atomization and throttle response at all RPM settings, but larger carburetor bores allow better high RPM horsepower. The reason your 125 ran better with a smaller carburetor was for those reasons.
Thank you for the explanation!!
So what carb do you recommend if you want more low and mid for a 125
@@mustknowinfo2001 try 2mm smaller
@@RyanMcIntyre the 36
So why don’t the manufacturer’s do that ? Just asking as surly they would know best to what’s best for there bikes ie carb size ?
He's a mad humble, honest guy and more articulate than some of the higher level pros. Great guest!
Really is man
Stank is his own level of highness lol
Stank Dog seems more down to earth than I would've guessed. Cool. He's a 2-smoker legend. Way impressive that he can legitimately mechanic. That's my passion! Stanky rocks both! Insane!!!
“The bars with no cross bar” ya, he’s a mechanic alright..
this guy and his gf are cool as fuck, they were at an event in las vegas for our cannabis business and we got to talking dirtbikes, some of the coolest ppl ive ever met.
He's a chill dude.. definitely knows his 2 strokes. Keep the 2 smoke alive!
This interview made me a much bigger fan of Stank🤘🔥
Great interview, love hearing Stanks tech knowledge and setup, it’s cool to hear someone who knows his bike setup, setup and performance tricks from real world racing, even more respect he can work on them himself, something I think should be a bigger focus of parents with their kids today, when I got my first 2 stroke, my dad was against it, I paid for it, he picked it up while was at school, I was 6 or 7 can’t remember, when I got home I had to unload it from the Ute. I will never forget how stoked I was until my dad said, right now ya got, if ya break it or it breaks down you better be able to fix it, cause no one else will. Initially it took the elation away. But was probably the best dirt bike lesson I ever got.
Keep mixin gas and hauling ass Stankdawg, you’re the best 🤘🥇
The most stoned factory mechanic🙌🏼
Ha maybe / Maybe not....
creativity is key with bike setup
I raced in the mid to late 90’s on a yz125. We switched to a PWK, ground our own needles and ran the boyesen reed block. With the rad valve the inlet is round and makes it easy to move the carb either closer or further away from the crank case. Doing that with either a PC or gold series pipe or even stock pipe and moving the timing around you can change the power characteristics a lot. I ran an 89 for years so we did everything we could to make it competitive with the newer KX and CR.
For someone who’s nickname is stank dog I’m blown away at how down to earth this guy it. Love his passion for the sport
Who else watching this after he transferred to the main on a 125
Finally, someone people might listen to that doesn't think the Lectron is the end all/be all.
It is for spastics like Jason. People who can’t work on their own bikes should have them
Yeah I don't get it unless you have no clue what your doing. My stock carbs always ran great after jetting.
2 stroke is bodge job and fiddling about now buying the expensive brand and slapping it on
I have 3 late model cr250s in the shed, each with a different carb, they all run just fine and are within a second of wach other, the lectron works just as well as the tmx and the pwk
I agree the lectron isn’t as good in clean crispyness. But for ease of use it’s sweet. I am more than capable of jetting and have had it dialed. I’ve ran both can enjoy both. But if I was pushing 100% dialed jetting I’d go Keihin. I only replaced my Mikuni with a Lectron this time is the slide was worn to crap after 20 hours. And I like to not carry jets.
Preach! My first BMX bike (MCS Mini) was a handmedown out of a pig pen. My dad had me clean it with a toothbrush and chrome polish, rebuild the bottom bracket, and wheels. A year later I was 2nd in the state in my age bracket. That trend continued through 85cc and it was second nature by the time I moved up and eventually translated to trucks and my own home. Work on your own shit! It makes you appreciate it more, respect it more, and you become more in tune with the bike to sharpen your setup.
And when times are tough, you’ll be able to put dinner on the table by turning wrenches.
More respect for the guys who can repair their rides, than the ones that can pay me to fix it for them.
Thank you as always
-CY Castor
I’m lucky to have met and hung a bit with StankDog, and I can tell you just because he’s a stoner does not mean he doesn’t take it seriously. When he’s training or racing when that helmet goes on it’s all business. And he isn’t lying, he could get a job as a factory mechanic with little effort. Greta job @gypsey tales for bring on the stankkk💪🏼👌🏼👏🏼
Stoner is a lazy bum that eats munchies and has no life goals. This guy is just a smoker through and through. Always on the pipe 😂 like my joke there?
His Dad taught him a lot.
I put a pwk keihin on my 21 150sx. It's killer now. Screw the lectron It's so over hyped.
Said it a million times! Love GYPSY TALES and his choice of guests and content 🤙🏻
Plus using a few different size read blocks plus taking care of the casting flaws in the crank case & different crank is a big difference along with the right carb.
Love when a rider can work on his own bike, Stank Dog kicks ass💯
That was one of those videos that makes me look shit up.
Stankdog is awesome.
New light on him .
Best interview
Stank Dog is the man. I've been waiting for this forever. Awesome video Jase.👍🐕
Alright, stank dog is way smarter than I anticipated. Always been a fan, but it’s nice to see him on this style of platform.
I run a Mikuni 38 TMX #7 emulsion tube. Love old school jetting. 💪👍 Steinke Dog!
Great interview! I think we all love the technical side of this sport. Great stuff!
My new favorite Rider!! Keep em coming!
When Stank Dog was talking about the VHM head, piston, and crank, I’m pretty sure the thrust action in the VHM crank he was referring to is what’s called an “inertia crank”
Nothing wrong with a vhm head with nothing else vhm I assume? Considering ordering for my 04 cr125
Golden!! Absolutely love hearing from the Stank Dog!! That's awesome to hear how mechanically inclined he is. I've done all the work on my bikes since I started racing a 125 waaaay back in 1985!!! Lol!!
U do ur own suspension too?
love that this popped up in my recommended days after he makes it to the main😂
I ride single track and enduro and I've used Keihin on all my 2 strokes for years. I think transient throttle response is even more important for what I do because I'm not always WOT and that's where the Keihin shines. It's interesting to hear they are the best for MX too.
I’ve personally spoke to many guys on legit tough singletrack that have said “I tried a Lectron, but the Keihin has a lot better bottom end response so I took the lectron off”.
Stankdog is so cool! Extremely cool and down to earth.
Dude it's cool to see stankdog layin down tech specs
Dude you guys really rock this potcast greatings from the netherlands 🇳🇱🤟🏻
It was same for me growing up. My dad was a great mechanic and by the time i was 13 i could change clutches out my self on my 85cc bikes, change tires, rebuild top ends. When i moved up to 125cc and 250cc i burnt a clutch out every 5 to 8 days on that cr125. We had clutch kits in metal coffee cans soaking in red line brand oil that looked was a solid yellow color. Plates stacked up in correct order and new heavy springs ready for the old clutch to be pulled out and a new one shoved right in that Hinson basket
Stanky is smart, It’s cool that he knows how to work on his bike like I am nit picky too and love to work on my bike
Love StankDizzle.... I found the Lectron better for woods riding on my YZ 125 but I go back to the original carb for racing. But that's me.
Stank -o be like hold my bong..😑😑Time to split the cases 🔨 💨
Stank seems so baked i thought he was bout to slip into a coma, LOL
Weed makes him a better rider ... weed makes lots of people better riders.
Stank dog! Been a fan for ever! Unsweet tea gang 🤘🏼
I liked and im already subscribed!! Much love
Yes Keihin air striker is the way to go! The thing I don't get is why my ktm sx 250 comes with a 36mm Keihin when the 125 sx comes with a 39mm ( that's what my 2008 manual says)
Finally... Stank in the Gypsy house...GG!!!
Yeah my 01 RM 125 has a Kehin 38mm -pro circuit system. I found adjusting the power-valve to make powerband come on sooner. It takes away abit of top-end but easyer to ride and less tiring= faster/consistent lap times.. They dont make em like they used too :)
Jax if you train on ya 125 i guaranty you'll be faster on your 350f.
The way these two talk about these bikes. About cleaning bikes. Gotta stay fresh with the bike!!
Dude I would love to go ride wit stank dog seems like a good dude
Gonna follow his tips for my 125 2smoker
I’m so happy I saw this… I just got a ktm and rode today and the stock carb is atrocious…. Plus to hear come from stank dog is a bonus
Stanky is a true rider to the core🤘
I have 165 hrs on my 19 300xc with lectron, this is my woods bike so the carb is great for that. But my ‘22 250sx which is my track bike, has the Keihin pwk air striker with Pro Circuit works/shorty and TSP high comp head. The thing pulls like a beast, I’m top 3 into first corner every time against 450s.
what grade ? I love two strokes , you think a 250 two stroke is going to be top 3 into the first corner against 450's then you are more stoned than Stankdog!!
@@LiverpoolFC658 local b rider, but your sadly mistaken bro. Maybe not against factory bikes it wouldn’t, but stock 450s all day long.
Kehin carbs are brill, great to set up 👌
Great stuff
I'm stoked on my Stank Jersey that Matty B got me ,from StanKmeister...a prized possession..gonna ride in it one day when I'm blistering w speed..soon
GYPSY TALES,,, LOVE YOUR VIBE , COOL AS HECH DUDE. SUPER BAD - ASS MECHANIC/RACER ALSO. MET STANK DOG @ STRIGHT RYTHEM, SUPER COOL DUDE. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME !! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟👍🏻👌🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
Funny part about this is back in the 90s my father switched to keilen carbs on my modified kx65's with shorty fmf pipes as well as both my kx85cc modified, and kx100 super mini
1985/6, I test'd a 38mm Keihin vs a straight bore 38mm Lectron on the flow bench. They flowed the same, within a couple cfm. Use the Keihin, IMO
“Yeah I think it was the needle that shot in the engine”
Lol. That was a whoops!
I 1st started racing KTM dirt bikes in 1990 and just like stank dog Knew how to make a 125 I knew how to make KTM go fast and handle great .Now back then you had to use a phone book and I had people call me from from everywhere wanting me to work on their bikes as they continued to get more popular so did my I . I’m now at # 29 KTM. I do have a 2020 Beta 300RR ( they are also a fine Brand) that now handles like a KTM . Also Kehin carburetors are awesome.
He ain't lying. I spent 18 months chasing my tail with every Mikuni trick I could find. I called JD jetting soon after and haven't touched a jet since! Seriously!!
Jetting hahaha most people have no clue
So true man - I have a new TM Racing EN300ES 2t and it comes with a Keihin PWK 38 carb that is perfectly jetted out of the box...also adding a STIC Metering Bloc to your Keihin carb makes the thing rip even more - but add the STIC - JD Jetting Kit to your Keihin & STIC. :) You won't believe the difference, especially power on the top-end RPM'S,but also for bottom-end power when placed on a 125.
These 2t's are so much fun, but I'm going to try something new for a new 4t soon, and go with a 2022+ Honda CRF450RX for fun factor - my 300 2t with all of the engine work has the same (maybe a little more) than the Honda 450RX stock, so I welcome the power, and can't wait to build the engine...just wish I was a little more wealthy to afford all of this at one time, but I am surely thankful for what I have right now!!! 💪 👍 👌
Everyone be safe and God bless! TRY a Kehin with STIC and JD Jetting for STIC - you WILL be pleasantly surprised!!! Just watch the Dirt N Iron video of the YZ125X with Kehin & STIC Metering Bloc! 🤘
Also I commented before listening, but I also have a VHM head, and it is awesome as well! TM has all of these products in their aftermarket parts catalog similar to KTM Powerparts...
I love the keihin so easy to dial in im gona youtube my dream build soon just taking in all advice from guys like this until then
Such a great guy
Maintenance is key for 125 2strokes. See guys buying expensive parts but have and old spark plug (plus wrong heat level)and don't re-jet the carb for track and weather conditions. Too many do not properly oil the air filter. Too much oil, done not properly clean or dry before applying oil....buy expensive piston but fail to properly maintain the power valve...
Yup this guy knows his stuff. Im 33 and still race 2 strokes and the best performance carb is a good ol keihin pwk carb. But for trail riding or offroad, especially with elevation changes you cant beat the lectron.
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He needs to get rid of the extra heavy stock eye lids and get the super lightweight factory eye lids. Much easier to keep them open!
I tried the 38mm PWK airstriker with jd jets and it ran great. But then I had the stock TMX ported and polished With jd jets and it was even better
1995 cr 250 bars and 40mm carb ran though s for the next 10 on my 125,250,500, during all outdoor and Supercross 1982 Thur 1990 still have the carb on my shelf in. Stand to show it off!
we put the Lectron on our YZ144 with HGS works pipe VHM head and the thing absolutely rips , I played with jetting for years on the stock YZ125 carb and we had it running great but the Lectron has taken it to another level.
Yeah this kid doesn’t know what he’s talking about. His carb was good that day at that elevation at that track but constantly messing with jets it’s hard to get it to run the same at every track a lectron is almost fuel injection I have changed 5000 feet of elevation with them with zero issues and similar power the entire time.
@@jonruger doesn’t know what he’s talking about?? He’s raced pro nationals on a 125 against 250s. Go get a clue lmao
@@kalebmx1221 doesn’t mean he knows shit about tuning or carbs. He doesn’t even know why they put the larger carb on the smaller engine it’s about RPM and volume not displacement.
@@kalebmx1221 we all raced 2 strokes for decades until about 04-05 this kid is riding them now to be cool and different not because that’s all there was. And Lectron has been around since the 70s they have more than proven themselves they have sold millions of units for a reason.
@@kalebmx1221 Go run a Lectron on your 2 stroke and then come back and tell me it does'nt run fantastic and has awesome throttle response everywhere and blah blah blah !!
My 97 YZ285 rips with the older cast version Smartcarb 👍
Any racer will tell you that when your racing like every weekend or every other you mostly care about just getting your bike comfortably to the finish although talking about bike tech is really fun
STANK DOGG thanks brother i listened and learned imma 125r man and I'll look into the VHM company. I rip a 2000 125 not sure they can help.
What bar bend is he talking about. He said pro taper 2016 tc125 and said its the only one that had them but I see husky used some nekken bars too around that time. Anyone confirm which bar bend hes using? Is it a husky only bend i gotta get from the oem or is there a retail pro taper part number?
coming from the automotive world , back into dirt bikes as an adult , id agree with the throttle body swap because of velocity . with velocity there's density , with density and velocity comes a cooler intake charge air temperature, which helps pack more oxygen into the same space , making more power . i build a lot of turbo cars , and often a smaller diameter intake plenum and or intercooler piping makes more power . you want a large exhaust to relieve backpressure but bigger on the intake side doesn't translate to more power. people forget these are air pumps. not fuel pumps . and the more air afforded , and fuel to match that increase in air . you make more power .
Hell ya I never rode my bike without lubing the clutch cable
Don’t forget to add the vforce 4r reed cage, huge difference for the yamaha, that’s a great bolt on accessory, really opens the bike up an let’s her eat!! I’ll be putting the new vforce 4r reeds in every two stroke we own
Lectron & Vforce4 will not fit on YZ125
RESPECT.... for people who maintain their shit 💯.
I too do all my own work. I couldn't ever watch someone else touch my toys. That just don't happen
I’m putting a keihin 36mm carb on my 2017 ktm150sx, anyone know where I should start with jet sizes?
putting a kehin pwk on any 2-stroke is a good serect. its how you used to get the old cr 2-strokes to work
Bring back the 2strokes! 🤘🤘
Couldnt agree more with the carb issue. Put the effort in and it will bring the biggest gain of any mod. Found same thing with the Keihin being the best, once you have it perfect start experimenting with different slides and be amazed how much more power you will find.
Nice thanks it’ll help with my 125
Stankdog is a legend
What about the old Boswell aka “Bogswell” 😂 carbs !?! had a 38mm on my Noleen YZ125 and a 40mm on my 250….250 was easily tuned and a consistent rocket ship…the 38mm on the 125 i swear was so sensitive it would change if the wind changed direction lol
Stankdog one two five run downn💥
Legend. I've got mikuni on my 18 te300. It's been nothing but troubles. Like you said on my old ktms 300exc the keihan was so sic. I want to buy one but in Australia they cost a fortune. Avagud1 fella's
Yes!
velocity before volume ! Toomey lessons the Keihin is awesome I ran them on my RG500 my KX's had them stock i learned on them I believe they make an auto metering carb don't they ?.That being said when i was little id the guy Down the Street Joe Smith was a former racer and tuner talking 79-82 period every other weekend Joe would be ripping up and down the street all day on a set of YZ 80s with flat track set ups and huge fucking RV joe was no joke tuner I was 10 yrs old and had XR75 the fist thing Joe did was the lectron carb which were plastic ! and you could see into them float levels and all that but the tuning ability was way way more articulate than anything else. That was the only place i saw Lectrons until the late 90s. all those YZs had number 1 plates
(just my opinion) gypsy should ask tech questions on bike maintence for each pro he interviews...air filter and oil chages dont count....top ends atleast, valve clearances would be a start......bet the stoner stigma gets erased pretty quick.....Stankdog your win is coming mate! 3 papers were killed before this sentence was finsihed:)
just met this guy at the Albany mx track in Oregon and got his signature
The secret is the master mechanic Jim Haeseker!! can build a motor better than new and the cases will be cleaner too ;)
I'm taking notes I have a KTM 125sx and a 250 sx with a 300cc top end kit,im switching carbs for sure.
Im the same way with my bikes. Since when did they start putting 36 mm carbs on 250s and 38mm on 125’s? My japanese 250s have always had a 38mm carb. Cmon KTM.. that being said, I have heard great reviews on the keihin PWK 38 air striker carburetor. The Lectron is just nice because you don’t have to worry about jetting with a metering rod design.
IKR my 2008 ktm sx250 has a Keihin 36s ag and the 125/144 sx has a Keihin 39! My bike runs great but I really don't get why the 125 has a bigger carb, but they are the professional so I guess they know their stuff.
@@kananisA75 rpms are higher, needs to flow more, especially when it needs to be on the main jet most of the time one would think.
The size of the carb isn’t everything and a higher revving engine needs more volume that’s why they do that.
"First, I smoke two joints and chug a Four Loko." Put it on the podium, then I'll freak out.
Lectron is great for not racing, it's no maintenance no bullshit, gas it up and go.. otherwise you need a jet set to really get it where you want. Otherwise you'd see them everywhere in karting and you don't. Because it's not needed and you want to be able to getting running the way you want where you want especially depending on gearing and track layout and shit.
Maybe Stankdog will try the new Lectron.
Stank is an AMERICAN BADASS
Do you really need more than 6 in of front fender!
3 bong hits apiece, minimal
I'm so friend rn it's like I'm right there
@@boogiekush9391 How good aye
3:51 that laugh
Hello 🤙 hope y’all have a great and blessed day 🙂
Bigger carb has less of a pulse signal better on high rpms but you lose low end the Keihin is a stubier carb and the valve is closer to the Reed block and you get a better throttle response.you can get a big carb to work but got to mess with it.alot of the bikes and sleds I've done bigger carb take a few thousand of the Reed area of cyl then get a few spacers and get the response you want.also get a few copper caskets and can shim the pipe in or out.smaller shim better top end further the better the bottom
So making the head pipe longer gives more low end?
lectron carbs are great the way they ship it to you done. but those lectrons were designed back in 1975 and were revolutionary for the time. but there have been 46 years of development that has gone into stock carbs. a stock carb set right will be just as or even better than a lectron. but that setup is critical.