@@MilsurpWorld uh, no. The M1 garand magazine doesn't actually retain any ammunition, the clip retains all of the ammo. All it does is hold the clip and push the ammunition up. This level of semantics is rivaled only by your argument that a magazine capacity can't count the bullet held in place for the bold to pick up when closed.
@@thatguyoverthere9634So if the clip is containing the rounds and all the magazine is doing is holding the clip, that would mean the magazine is holding some rounds huh dipshit?
Wow, for a short info video a lot of people sure feel like arguing those he literally shows you proof of what he's saying. The spot where the bolt travels does not count as the magazine, thus the mag holds 7. He's objectively correct.
I would argue since you are not able to keep a round un-chambered that it would not be 7+1 because it would be impossible to have a 8+0 but rather just 8 rounds
Sometimes you have to manually slap the bolt home. So technically it has 8 in the magazine before you slap it closed. Since we are getting technical about things.
No, that’s not even technically true. 8 rounds cannot physically fit inside of that space. The eighth round is actually sitting on top of the magazine. Not in it.
This is more of a demonstration of how en bloc clips work. I know a lot of rifles that use strippers, can get a +1 in. But not sure about other en blocs. It's just redundant to say 7+1 because En Bloc means "as a whole" so the idea is you load all 8 is a whole as intended. Other rifles that have an ammo source and the capability to single load, it would make sense to say +1. Maybe somebody else can clarify if rifles like the Berthier could get a +1 in the gun. To me, it makes more sense to say it feeds from an en bloc and then the "internal" magazine capacity is irrelevant as it implies that it is possible to feed the Garand directly from the internal magazine, but since you can't, it's not a magazine in the same sense as a Mauser's magazine or similar rifles.
It’s never ever said but this same thing is also true of the Mosin. 5 rounds can not physically fit into the magazine of that rifle. The top round is sitting on top of the magazine held in place by the ejector tab and right receiver wall.
@@gmanm1907 no?? It's 7 in the mag if you haven't racked the slide. If you did it would be 6+1. But with one still in the chamber you can change the mag, so it's 7+1
@@gmanm1907what he’s saying is that magazine is not capable of holding 8, only 7. There is a way to load a 1911 to 7+1 with a 7 round magazine and a loose round, there is no capability here, you cannot go 8+1 with a garand, you can have 8 in the clip with the bolt back and only 7 in the mag, you can have 7 in the clip and 7 in the mag with the bolt closed and one in the chamber, or one in the chamber plus 6 or less rounds in the clip and magazine. It is a fundamental difference of design, and if you do not understand I suggest you grab an m1 garand, a 1911, some factory mags and enblocs and some ammo and start fiddling around with them until you see the difference.
@@MilsurpWorld so were clear, I entirely agree with the meta of your point in the video. However, if we look at external magazines, they hold ammunition in line with the bolt as well, the magazine and bolt share the same space. My point is, I think the internal magazine on the M1 shares the space that the bolt occupies, as it would on any magazine gun and that that means to nitpick the technicalities, the M1 does have an 8 round magazine, BUT lacks the ability to +1. For reference and comparison I summon six shooter revolvers as food for thought. Great vids btw!
I dont know what these other idiots in the comment section are talking about. This is a great demonstration video that teaches cool firearms history. Keep up the work man. I subbed.
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Technically it's 8. Until that bolt goes home, there's 8 in it. And it stays 8 until you release the bolt with your thumb.
that's what i was thinking like wtf lol useless video lmfao.🤷♂️
The space that the bolt takes up in the rifle does not count as the magazine.
@@MilsurpWorld uh, no. The M1 garand magazine doesn't actually retain any ammunition, the clip retains all of the ammo. All it does is hold the clip and push the ammunition up.
This level of semantics is rivaled only by your argument that a magazine capacity can't count the bullet held in place for the bold to pick up when closed.
@thatguyoverthere9634 So are you saying the M1 magazine holds 0?
@@thatguyoverthere9634So if the clip is containing the rounds and all the magazine is doing is holding the clip, that would mean the magazine is holding some rounds huh dipshit?
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Wow, for a short info video a lot of people sure feel like arguing those he literally shows you proof of what he's saying. The spot where the bolt travels does not count as the magazine, thus the mag holds 7. He's objectively correct.
technically the mosin has a 4 rnd magazine
Now we're talkin.
@@MrJerry160 well technically the kar98 has a 4 round mag too!
Jk, it can actually hold 5 rounds in the mag, so it's 5+1
I would argue since you are not able to keep a round un-chambered that it would not be 7+1 because it would be impossible to have a 8+0 but rather just 8 rounds
You can keep a round unchambered if you load 7 or less in the clip.
Sometimes you have to manually slap the bolt home. So technically it has 8 in the magazine before you slap it closed. Since we are getting technical about things.
The space that the bolt takes up in the rifle does not count as the magazine.
No, that’s not even technically true. 8 rounds cannot physically fit inside of that space. The eighth round is actually sitting on top of the magazine. Not in it.
This is more of a demonstration of how en bloc clips work. I know a lot of rifles that use strippers, can get a +1 in. But not sure about other en blocs. It's just redundant to say 7+1 because En Bloc means "as a whole" so the idea is you load all 8 is a whole as intended. Other rifles that have an ammo source and the capability to single load, it would make sense to say +1. Maybe somebody else can clarify if rifles like the Berthier could get a +1 in the gun. To me, it makes more sense to say it feeds from an en bloc and then the "internal" magazine capacity is irrelevant as it implies that it is possible to feed the Garand directly from the internal magazine, but since you can't, it's not a magazine in the same sense as a Mauser's magazine or similar rifles.
The M95 is a 4 + 1 rifle (4 round magazine), but the 35M can be 5 + 1 (5 round magazine) even though they both feed from the same clip.
@MilsurpWorld yeah, that is interesting then. Can you feed them without the en bloc?
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Well I guess I failed the quiz simply because I see no reason to split hairs over that little detail.
It’s never ever said but this same thing is also true of the Mosin. 5 rounds can not physically fit into the magazine of that rifle. The top round is sitting on top of the magazine held in place by the ejector tab and right receiver wall.
Yup! And the M.95 as well.
Here for the pedantry.
When I load my 1911 we can say it holds 7 in a mag but since it holds one in the chamber it’s technically 6+1
You can hold 7 rounds in the mag, but still have one in the chamber. So it's 7+1.
@@armosinz1944 ye but with just 7 rounds in the mag without chambered it’s 6+1
@@gmanm1907 no?? It's 7 in the mag if you haven't racked the slide. If you did it would be 6+1. But with one still in the chamber you can change the mag, so it's 7+1
@@armosinz1944 ye but in this case like what this guy I saying it’s 6+1 with just a mag
@@gmanm1907what he’s saying is that magazine is not capable of holding 8, only 7. There is a way to load a 1911 to 7+1 with a 7 round magazine and a loose round, there is no capability here, you cannot go 8+1 with a garand, you can have 8 in the clip with the bolt back and only 7 in the mag, you can have 7 in the clip and 7 in the mag with the bolt closed and one in the chamber, or one in the chamber plus 6 or less rounds in the clip and magazine.
It is a fundamental difference of design, and if you do not understand I suggest you grab an m1 garand, a 1911, some factory mags and enblocs and some ammo and start fiddling around with them until you see the difference.
Camber round and make a 9 shooter?
Haha 🍻 never thought of it that way!
You had 8 rounds in the magazine for like 40 seconds
The space that the bolt takes up in the rifle does not count as the magazine.
@@MilsurpWorld so were clear, I entirely agree with the meta of your point in the video. However, if we look at external magazines, they hold ammunition in line with the bolt as well, the magazine and bolt share the same space. My point is, I think the internal magazine on the M1 shares the space that the bolt occupies, as it would on any magazine gun and that that means to nitpick the technicalities, the M1 does have an 8 round magazine, BUT lacks the ability to +1. For reference and comparison I summon six shooter revolvers as food for thought. Great vids btw!
What if i put one in the clip after the fist one is stripped?
I’m not that tistic about it. It’s 8 as far as im concerned
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rounds in the M1…. which M1??? mine has detachable magazines so 20 or 30 rounds
There's only one M1 rifle.
Nailed it! 👏 Its surprising how many people get this wrong.
I said 8 thanks for sharing
This confuses my autism
Love to get one
I dont know what these other idiots in the comment section are talking about. This is a great demonstration video that teaches cool firearms history. Keep up the work man. I subbed.
Semantics
Damn that was a waste of time
So it’s 8
I get 10 in mine
I have questions
A bit pedantic, but alright
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That’s 8+1 dude
I don't think you can have a full clip in the magazine and have 1 in the chamber at the same time.
The bolt can't go over the 8, therefore you cannot fire one in the chamber
7+1 is a max of 7 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber, Garand magazine holds 8
So ..... Find something better to talk about
And the Eddystone is 6+1 and the Springfield is 5+1
Bro I thought it was five 😭
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