It's reassuring to hear from someone who's experienced in law enforcement that it's still a possibility for JS to be charged for whatever involvement she had in the crimes committed against Maddie 😢
She should be charged with something. Poor Maddie the hell she went through daily. Her mom didn't love her. It's pitiful Rest in Peace Beautiful Maddie 🕊️
Dad non existent,Mom pimped her to her bf,school councillor knows something is very wrong at home and did nothing.Madeline Soto was told by society she has to endure sexual assault.😭 Justice for Madeline!
@@Red-kw4uuI'm so glad you feel the same way as I do about the useless councillor. She needs sacking IMO. Maddie obviously didn't even feel safe with her 😢
She actually said that? She’s worse than I thought! I thought she was a severely neglectful and disinterested mother but if that’s true she’s disgusting and definitely knew.
I believe she knew earlier she said on tv she seen her getting dressed at 8am for school‼️ she lied for him she should be in jail aswell. She failed poor Maddie so bad.
She also described what she was wearing that morning even thou she never saw her daughter in the morning. She was covering hard for him until he got arrested.
Then she changed her story and said she laid her clothes out. No one with a house that filthy is taking time to lay out outfits for their kids. Everything was in piles. And let’s be gracious- if she laid out an outfit, why was one of Maddies crocks in Jenns room while the other one got trashed?. And why wasn’t her phone laid out beside the outfit? it makes zero sense that it would be in Jenns room all day and no one noticed it until school pickup time. Her friend didn’t try to call to see where she was? Jenn didn’t check her own phone earlier charging at the same station?
Just a thought about Jennifer in her first interview with the media. The interviewer asked her how she was feeling, and she said, "I can't breath", is that not leakage on knowledge of poor Madeline's murder? Just a question, not accusation.
In her early interviews Jen was all about “we” we done this we done that and so on. I believe she was telling us she was fully aware of what was happening to Maddie and that she knew that he was going out to get rid of Maddie’s body that morning! They are in this together! “We”!
I know it said the phone showed Maddie taking 11 steps, but that doesn't mean it was Maddie that had the phone. It could have been Stephan or Jenn carrying her phone around in the condo!
I can’t thank you enough for the truthful education you give us on these cases. I still have hope she is charged with as much as she can be. How can a person allow the SA and the help cover up the death. Sick.
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Cops have the same family issues that curse other people. He sounds like a typical cop to me, except he wasn’t that good at it and he left for more money.
She was a child :( I pray he rots in HELL!!!! AND HER MOM ISN'T A MOM!! HOW COULD SHE HAVE ALLOWED HER PRECIOUS CHILD TO BE ABUSED AND USED SO HEINOUSLY BY THIS MONSTER?????? YES IT IS ABSOLUTE BS!! SHE NEEDS TO BE IN PRISON TOO!!
Jennifer needs to be charged for not protecting Madeline. And for sends Madeline to go and sleep with a grown ass Man!!! This makes me sick that she is not behind bars now!!! What the Hell are they waiting for!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr 😡😡😡
Jenn said in an interview that it was wrong and uncomfortable that SS and Maddy shared a bed... But she didn't say no or throw him out and not let him back in fact she was trying to get him moved back in with them at the time of the murder... Jenn is sickening.
If the car was in the garage or in the driveway it doesn't mean there's a camera pointed at their condo . Obviously he didn't need help lifting her he's on camera later in the day putting her in the trunk . I don't have a camera on my porch and I know my nextdoor neighbors don't either , as far as the rest of my neighbors I have no idea .
There is no doubt in my mind she knew more than she has let on.What about Child Endangerment, Facilitating Child Abuse,Child Neglect, Emotional Abuse just a few that should be thrown at "Monster Mother".
Sterns spoke to the security guard, he had his clicker and told the guard it wasn't working. When asked about Madeline, the security guard said she was leaning towards the door with her hair blocking her face. He couldn't see her face. Imagine being that guard now knowing she was dead, or the flat mate who heard noises. That could possibly have been Madeline fighting for her life. They must feel absolutely terrible.
Something that's odd to me is there's no bye mom or bye Maddie on Monday morning b4 school. Is that normal? She took the time to help him with the dog that morning but NOT her child. Jenn had no interest in that child's welfare... IMO
Well unfortunately Maddie was killed in the early hours according to their statements. So ALL of that morning according to mums and stepdad involving Maddie is a lie
The roommate heard loud noises coming from SS room..sounded like things were be put on a table, according to them. I wonder if that is when it happened to poor Maddie..you can see all the defensive wounds she left on his hands. That poor baby fought like hell..this case just hits my heart and I pray everyday for her justice..that momster needs to get them silver bracelets imo
JUSTICE FOR MADDIE...Jenn is Stern's parrot. I am still bugging that she would send Maddie to sleep with a grown man. Jenn isn't wrapped to tight, saying that she sent Maddie to sleep with Stern less than the number of her fingers HELLO even one finger is too much Jenn...now Maddie is gone.
Why didn’t the school call her and ask about Mattys absence after the first hour?🤷🏻♂️🤨how could that guard at the gate not know that Matty was already dead?
Imagine the resentment and retaliation Maddie harbored against her “Mother”. Imagine Maddie showing favor to Stephan as an absolute retaliation and resentment toward her “Mother”. Leon Gary Plauché took care of it for his son.
When did Jennifer Soto know that Sterns was messing around with her daughter? I don't believe that Maddie never said, Mommy I am sore down there. She needs to be charged with child neglect at the minimum!
I just found your channel thank you so much for the work you do.. thank the Lord that this baby is in the hands of God now because the suffering that she must’ve been going through and what she would’ve gone through as an adult it’s unimaginable. I have a seven-year-old granddaughter and looking at her and thinking if some animal did something to a my baby girl at that age is disgusting. My daughter meant the world to me and I knew just by the look on her face if something was wrong with her I can with all three of my kids to this day and they’re. I hope he and Jen get what’s coming to them, I can’t believe I’m going say this because I don’t believe in us having to make a choice for somebody else’s body but this situation and other situations like this where a mother knows it was happening and doesn’t do about it is so upsetting to me. I feel that the mother should be permanently sterilized so this can never happen again.I know I’m being harsh I know it’s not my normal way to think but looking at my granddaughter for the last three weeks while we were on holiday has made me angry and so sad that something could happen to this precious little girl I hugged my granddaughter a lot closer to me since this case, started. I hope Jen gets the book thrown at her or at least she should be charged with child endangerment and child neglect as well as accessory to a crime against a child. I hope she doesn’t get away with anything.
She knew She's not innocent or she would have not let the abuse go on for years!! She should be in jail too. Poor Maddie, my heart just breaks for her. I would have loved to have a beautiful daughter like her. I would have protected her with my life.
Dear Sergeant, loved your points of views. Does anyone know what’s Maddie’s dad is doing about it? We know he couldn’t be with her but I hope he can have justice for his daughter.
I fell asleep and missed this video yesterday.. Monday. I hope you have something else for us today. I start going through withdrawal when you aren't on. Lol. You're the best!
I am watching replay. I feel Jennifer Soto should be arrested because of her abusive actions by intentionally letting Stephen have sex with Madeline. I also question and wonder if she also sexually abused Madeline. Who has their child sleep with them especially as old as 12 years old. I never let my kids sleep with me and my husband. I felt it was inappropriate. If they were sick or had problems sleeping, I would go to them . Read a story to them or do something comforting for them such as a gentle back rub..
So in the parents interview the dad said that Maddie called Stephen a couple days before her birthday to remind him to come to her party. After that call, according to dad, Stephen became very agitated and even told his dad that. I wonder what was going on on the other end of that call and what it was that made him so agitated when Maddie called.
She should absolutely be charged with neglect. She missed her kids birthday, kicked her out of the room the night of her birthday. Sent her to sleep with a man who wasn’t her boyfriend. Didn’t wake up to go out for the birthday breakfast even though she missed the actual birthday . Didn’t get her a gift even. THEN, didn’t wait to see what was taking her so long at school. Didn’t circle around to the back of the parent pickup line when she thought she was holding up the line…. Wasn’t even freaked out until she heard the laptop was traceable. Then she looked scared. That’s when her eyes bulged. Maddie’s other crock shoe was in her mom’s room. Why would it be in there if she laid out Maddies clothes for the next day like she said? She didn’t even do the bare minimum. Maddie wasn’t given half the room that was rented out even though she would naturally have to go to bed first. She was forced to sleep in a common area exposed to any adults who’d still be up past her bedtime. She was up at midnight the night she died yet mom was more concerned about her own sleep and not putting her own daughter down. No job training is that intense.
What happened the Saturday night before he k!lled MS that caused SS to become so anxious that he asked his parents for anxiety meds? Wasn’t it after he spoke on telephone to MS? His anxiety skyrocketed and MS was de3d the next day?
He wasn’t his father was and got sick of it so he left in Dec they all pay the rent to Juan Jen’s father including Jen he couldn’t even give his granddaughter a room free of charge so she could have some privacy smh
That’s a good point - through middle school, there was no “drop them off wherever let them walk the rest of the way”. We all had to wait in a line of cars to drop kids off one by one at a DOOR, with several staff members there and they had to be picked up that way also. Kids couldn’t “make their way” to school until high school.
The mum had to know that stephan was lieing, because the 1 white Croc was in the mums room on thr floor and she would of seen it in the morning when she was getting ready for her doctors appointment
Thanks, JS may know even more. Follow the money. Someone is hiding even more. They should all be charged. Cognitive Dissonance & Deflection in a lot of the interviews.🙏🙏🙏
I just wonder if either of her roommates have seen or heard anything about what had been happening ? That poor little girl had to suffersat the hands of that monster.
I think Sterns graduated from his doings from SA to M. So I think that is why he seemed unorganized cuz there is more to Homicide to cover up than the SA . So sad! R.I.P SWEET MADDIE 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 FOREVER 13
Every single place either of those cars went is traceable through the gps that is on every car from the last 2 decades. I don’t know why people think otherwise.
Does anyone remember when Jennifer said she came back home from her doctors appt and she “waited” to pick Maddie back up, not word for word but I thought it was weird she said she WAITED. I don’t drop my kids off at school then say I came back home and WAITED. Weird word, makes me think she’s in on it and WAITED to pretend to go through the motions. She KNEW she was dead. And because she knew that means she covering to protect her ass because she knew about the abuse too! She knows she’ll get in trouble for that so she lied right away.
The fact that Jenn referes 1:45:49 to Maddie , as does Debbie quote, That child /this child is objectifying . It's a possessive love at best by Jenn. Who like Debby refers to Stephan and to Madeline also which means their only relating to her as an object . Like something to be owned. In other words it's all about the adult and how they are distant from their own child except for their relevance to them. Distancing without identity , to be owned. Madeline didn't deserve that and it's so sad. Possessive love is the lowest feeling emotionally and . Many people don't love unconditionally but it's awful when it's your own child . I understand Debby Sterns wanting to distance herself now. Chris Sterns comment quote We have to ask ourselves quote DO we know our own son now. INDEED. I sense a lack of bonding and out of guilt and denial , they didn't know their children. However that being said I feel no sympathy for Stephan but acknowledge the parents selfishness. Even in their relationship. Alot of unhealthy relationships here. Nothing but empathy for poor Maddie who stood no chance. What a nightmare. She was so manipulated and controlled . So sickeningly abused and murdered. You cannot strangle and use evil means to control and dominate people Stephan. While Jenn neglected Madeline. You'll face your maker. This is such a suffering for poor Maddie . Rest now baby girl . Karen Morente
Poor Madeline what I am about to say Jean had room mates living in that house so Madeline did not have her own bed room as she should have had at her age so she had to give up her bedroom so jenn made her sleep with her boy friend that is wrong no other mother would not think to do a thing like that that is bad behaviour jenn had a low sex drive sterns her boyfriend had a high sex drive so that the reason why he took advantage on Madeline she was a easy picking to him jenn is covering up for sterns it stands out mile she should be charged for murder as well I do hope so what a mother turned out to be my heart go s out to 😡 Madeline she did not deserve to be murdered in horrid way there's more to meet the eye with jeen and sterns there's more then meets the eye 👁️ thanks Sargent for what you do
Would they release if it was as found she was pregnant during the autopsy?? Stern was very agitated and anxious after speaking to Maddie on the phone on Saturday. Why? What did she say to him? Did she tell him she was pregnant??
It’s hard to believe that there are appalling, despicable, and some would even say evil behaviors that are perfectly legal, such as offering a lawyer to a man the police just showed you photos of him brutally SA’ing your 13-year old, currently missing daughter.
How did Madeline’s croc end up in Jenn’s room, and the other in a Dumpster..Did she make it to her mom’s bed room for help and got hauled out??? Dead or alive ?
Bill-just putting it out there, but if SS parents would have said" you figure out how to get to KIssamee 37 year old man child, you are not using my car and no gas money" its highly possible that Maddy could still be alive. I wonder if they struggle with that.
I just wonder if either of her roommates have seen or heard anything about what had been happening ? That poor little girl had to suffer at the hands of that monster !
Random thoughts: How do we know that Jen didn't choke her and Stearns disposed of her body. I think they were both profiting from selling the images. Either she was preggo or getting ready to tell.
It's reassuring to hear from someone who's experienced in law enforcement that it's still a possibility for JS to be charged for whatever involvement she had in the crimes committed against Maddie 😢
Same, Debra knew SS better and I think she blames the TBI. I have a TBI and I get anxious/memory isn't great BUT I'm not ABUSING CHILDREN. ..
She should be charged with something. Poor Maddie the hell she went through daily. Her mom didn't love her. It's pitiful
Rest in Peace Beautiful Maddie 🕊️
Agree
Dad non existent,Mom pimped her to her bf,school councillor knows something is very wrong at home and did nothing.Madeline Soto was told by society she has to endure sexual assault.😭 Justice for Madeline!
@@Red-kw4uuI'm so glad you feel the same way as I do about the useless councillor. She needs sacking IMO. Maddie obviously didn't even feel safe with her 😢
I can’t stand to look at Jenn’s picture. Charge her! I was horrified to hear her say, “the sex stuff wasn’t evil.” Omg😡
@@Char_43 exactly, hard to understand.
She actually said that? She’s worse than I thought! I thought she was a severely neglectful and disinterested mother but if that’s true she’s disgusting and definitely knew.
@heartsmyfaceforever8140 my heart brakes for Mad....
No reason to give Jennifer immunity charge her as well
I believe she knew earlier she said on tv she seen her getting dressed at 8am for school‼️ she lied for him she should be in jail aswell. She failed poor Maddie so bad.
She also described what she was wearing that morning even thou she never saw her daughter in the morning. She was covering hard for him until he got arrested.
Then she changed her story and said she laid her clothes out. No one with a house that filthy is taking time to lay out outfits for their kids. Everything was in piles.
And let’s be gracious- if she laid out an outfit, why was one of Maddies crocks in Jenns room while the other one got trashed?. And why wasn’t her phone laid out beside the outfit? it makes zero sense that it would be in Jenns room all day and no one noticed it until school pickup time. Her friend didn’t try to call to see where she was? Jenn didn’t check her own phone earlier charging at the same station?
Just a thought about Jennifer in her first interview with the media. The interviewer asked her how she was feeling, and she said, "I can't breath", is that not leakage on knowledge of poor Madeline's murder? Just a question, not accusation.
She should Le be charged with child abuse,neglect ect
Yes, I agree.
And lying about taking her to school to cover up for the monster
In her early interviews Jen was all about “we” we done this we done that and so on. I believe she was telling us she was fully aware of what was happening to Maddie and that she knew that he was going out to get rid of Maddie’s body that morning! They are in this together! “We”!
I know it said the phone showed Maddie taking 11 steps, but that doesn't mean it was Maddie that had the phone. It could have been Stephan or Jenn carrying her phone around in the condo!
@@KJ-tz2wu we said that it was probably Stephan that had her phone.
I listened to an audio of Chris Sterns, Stephan's dad, when the dectives told him that his son was arrested for s battery. The dad sounded shocked!
I can’t thank you enough for the truthful education you give us on these cases. I still have hope she is charged with as much as she can be. How can a person allow the SA and the help cover up the death. Sick.
I heard that, on average, Sterns was abusing poor little Madeline 4 times a week. How is it that the mother didn't know?
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If Dad was an ex cop. How earth could he be so enabling or allow his wife to be so enabling this has me absolutely befuddled
Cops have the same family issues that curse other people. He sounds like a typical cop to me, except he wasn’t that good at it and he left for more money.
Where do you think he learned all of this ???
NO DEAL FOR STERNS!!
She was a child :( I pray he rots in HELL!!!! AND HER MOM ISN'T A MOM!! HOW COULD SHE HAVE ALLOWED HER PRECIOUS CHILD TO BE ABUSED AND USED SO HEINOUSLY BY THIS MONSTER?????? YES IT IS ABSOLUTE BS!! SHE NEEDS TO BE IN PRISON TOO!!
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Jen. Needs to go to jail she allowed all of it.
Jennifer needs to be charged for not protecting Madeline. And for sends Madeline to go and sleep with a grown ass Man!!! This makes me sick that she is not behind bars now!!! What the Hell are they waiting for!!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr 😡😡😡
Jenn said in an interview that it was wrong and uncomfortable that SS and Maddy shared a bed... But she didn't say no or throw him out and not let him back in fact she was trying to get him moved back in with them at the time of the murder... Jenn is sickening.
How did he get her out of the house and into his car without being seen on any of the cameras?
I think he had help…
@@ShakerMaker1980Still, how did two people pull that off with the cameras?
If the car was in the garage or in the driveway it doesn't mean there's a camera pointed at their condo . Obviously he didn't need help lifting her he's on camera later in the day putting her in the trunk . I don't have a camera on my porch and I know my nextdoor neighbors don't either , as far as the rest of my neighbors I have no idea .
Sargeant.... thank you for all you do.
I love your commentary. You call it as you see it-no sugarcoating❤
@@annepearce3089 thank you
People need to stop calling it "had sex with her". She was raped. She could not consent.
There is no doubt in my mind she knew more than she has let on.What about Child Endangerment, Facilitating Child Abuse,Child Neglect, Emotional Abuse just a few that should be thrown at "Monster Mother".
Sterns spoke to the security guard, he had his clicker and told the guard it wasn't working. When asked about Madeline, the security guard said she was leaning towards the door with her hair blocking her face. He couldn't see her face. Imagine being that guard now knowing she was dead, or the flat mate who heard noises. That could possibly have been Madeline fighting for her life. They must feel absolutely terrible.
Something that's odd to me is there's no bye mom or bye Maddie on Monday morning b4 school. Is that normal? She took the time to help him with the dog that morning but NOT her child. Jenn had no interest in that child's welfare... IMO
Well unfortunately Maddie was killed in the early hours according to their statements. So ALL of that morning according to mums and stepdad involving Maddie is a lie
@@mystifiedmargot1970 True..
Really appreciate your expertise on this case and professor
Thank you
Justice for 1:45:49 Maddie is in heavenly arms now. Safe and loved forever. God bless you . Karen Morente
Why didn’t the school call her and ask about Mattys absence after the first hour?🤷🏻♂️🤨
This. What is the explanation?
Great live chat you had with great guests as well, Thank you
Thank you
thank you for your work
The roommate heard loud noises coming from SS room..sounded like things were be put on a table, according to them. I wonder if that is when it happened to poor Maddie..you can see all the defensive wounds she left on his hands. That poor baby fought like hell..this case just hits my heart and I pray everyday for her justice..that momster needs to get them silver bracelets imo
Off the cuff and professor Mike
I saw Jen say in an interview that she saw Maddie getting dressed for school at 8am. Why was she lying?
JUSTICE FOR MADDIE...Jenn is Stern's parrot. I am still bugging that she would send Maddie to sleep with a grown man. Jenn isn't wrapped to tight, saying that she sent Maddie to sleep with Stern less than the number of her fingers HELLO even one finger is too much Jenn...now Maddie is gone.
Why didn’t the school call her and ask about Mattys absence after the first hour?🤷🏻♂️🤨how could that guard at the gate not know that Matty was already dead?
Professor is always great to hear ftom .reminds me of the interview room and dr. B
Watching on replay, always a good show.
Oh hell! I missed another live! Am enjoying the replay. I hope you and yours are well, Bill. 🥰
Imagine the resentment and retaliation Maddie harbored against her “Mother”. Imagine Maddie showing favor to Stephan as an absolute retaliation and resentment toward her “Mother”. Leon Gary Plauché took care of it for his son.
When did Jennifer Soto know that Sterns was messing around with her daughter? I don't believe that Maddie never said, Mommy I am sore down there. She needs to be charged with child neglect at the minimum!
I agree. I thought the female officer taking Sterns’ statement was really great.
Good evening Bill! Sorry to miss your Lives, catching up now, 11 pm Calif time.
I just found your channel thank you so much for the work you do.. thank the Lord that this baby is in the hands of God now because the suffering that she must’ve been going through and what she would’ve gone through as an adult it’s unimaginable. I have a seven-year-old granddaughter and looking at her and thinking if some animal did something to a my baby girl at that age is disgusting. My daughter meant the world to me and I knew just by the look on her face if something was wrong with her I can with all three of my kids to this day and they’re. I hope he and Jen get what’s coming to them, I can’t believe I’m going say this because I don’t believe in us having to make a choice for somebody else’s body but this situation and other situations like this where a mother knows it was happening and doesn’t do about it is so upsetting to me. I feel that the mother should be permanently sterilized so this can never happen again.I know I’m being harsh I know it’s not my normal way to think but looking at my granddaughter for the last three weeks while we were on holiday has made me angry and so sad that something could happen to this precious little girl I hugged my granddaughter a lot closer to me since this case, started. I hope Jen gets the book thrown at her or at least she should be charged with child endangerment and child neglect as well as accessory to a crime against a child. I hope she doesn’t get away with anything.
She knew She's not innocent or she would have not let the abuse go on for years!! She should be in jail too. Poor Maddie, my heart just breaks for her. I would have loved to have a beautiful daughter like her. I would have protected her with my life.
Dear Sergeant, loved your points of views.
Does anyone know what’s Maddie’s dad is doing about it?
We know he couldn’t be with her but I hope he can have justice for his daughter.
He doesn't seem to be public in regards to his daughter
The bio dad couldn't be bothered.
The first police interview shows both Jennifer and stephan on like a nod ,I am a recovering addict and know that look hopefully they look into it
Thanks gor all your great work u 2 gems
Thanks for listening
I fell asleep and missed this video yesterday.. Monday. I hope you have something else for us today. I start going through withdrawal when you aren't on. Lol. You're the best!
I am watching replay. I feel Jennifer Soto should be arrested because of her abusive actions by intentionally letting Stephen have sex with Madeline. I also question and wonder if she also sexually abused Madeline. Who has their child sleep with them especially as old as 12 years old. I never let my kids sleep with me and my husband. I felt it was inappropriate. If they were sick or had problems sleeping, I would go to them . Read a story to them or do something comforting for them such as a gentle back rub..
So in the parents interview the dad said that Maddie called Stephen a couple days before her birthday to remind him to come to her party. After that call, according to dad, Stephen became very agitated and even told his dad that. I wonder what was going on on the other end of that call and what it was that made him so agitated when Maddie called.
I think Maddie was calling him, inquiring like "oh jeez, are you planning on coming here..." I don't think Maddie wanted him around!
She should absolutely be charged with neglect. She missed her kids birthday, kicked her out of the room the night of her birthday. Sent her to sleep with a man who wasn’t her boyfriend.
Didn’t wake up to go out for the birthday breakfast even though she missed the actual birthday . Didn’t get her a gift even.
THEN, didn’t wait to see what was taking her so long at school. Didn’t circle around to the back of the parent pickup line when she thought she was holding up the line…. Wasn’t even freaked out until she heard the laptop was traceable. Then she looked scared. That’s when her eyes bulged.
Maddie’s other crock shoe was in her mom’s room. Why would it be in there if she laid out Maddies clothes for the next day like she said? She didn’t even do the bare minimum.
Maddie wasn’t given half the room that was rented out even though she would naturally have to go to bed first. She was forced to sleep in a common area exposed to any adults who’d still be up past her bedtime.
She was up at midnight the night she died yet mom was more concerned about her own sleep and not putting her own daughter down. No job training is that intense.
Spot. On.
Thanks!
Thank you
I would love to see the deleted messages from Maddy,s phone. I feel ss deleted messages that morning when they say her phone was turned on and off.
Her mother deserves life in prison as far as Im concerned
What happened the Saturday night before he k!lled MS that caused SS to become so anxious that he asked his parents for anxiety meds? Wasn’t it after he spoke on telephone to MS? His anxiety skyrocketed and MS was de3d the next day?
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I think Debra knew and use his TBI as an EXCUSE ... i have a TBI, im anxious but im not violating and abusing children !!
Sickening
@@mariansadowski2878 absolutely horrific.
The only remorse he feels is remorse from getting caught.
They own her now, so her life is still over as she knew it and when the time is right she'll get charged and go away. Patience.
She is so calm and not cry once.... sicked!! 😮😢
I really don’t believe he was paying any rent there.
He wasn’t his father was and got sick of it so he left in Dec they all pay the rent to Juan Jen’s father including Jen he couldn’t even give his granddaughter a room free of charge so she could have some privacy smh
Yeah definitely! My thoughts as well
That’s a good point - through middle school, there was no “drop them off wherever let them walk the rest of the way”. We all had to wait in a line of cars to drop kids off one by one at a DOOR, with several staff members there and they had to be picked up that way also. Kids couldn’t “make their way” to school until high school.
The mum had to know that stephan was lieing, because the 1 white Croc was in the mums room on thr floor and she would of seen it in the morning when she was getting ready for her doctors appointment
If they are able to get SS on all charges then choose to go after Jen, they won’t even have to use immunity 21:15
Thanks, JS may know even more. Follow the money. Someone is hiding even more. They should all be charged. Cognitive Dissonance & Deflection in a lot of the interviews.🙏🙏🙏
I just wonder if either of her roommates have seen or heard anything about what had been happening ? That poor little girl had to suffersat the hands of that monster.
I think the public will make Jenn’s existence a hard one. At least that something, very little, ,,, I know , but it’s something…
I think Sterns graduated from his doings from SA to M. So I think that is why he seemed unorganized cuz there is more to Homicide to cover up than the SA . So sad! R.I.P SWEET MADDIE 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
FOREVER 13
Jen had a white croc in her bedroom and didn’t think something was wrong with Stephen
Bless MS we love u
I'd like to see her charged. It's upsetting to think she might not ever be charged 😢
Every single place either of those cars went is traceable through the gps that is on every car from the last 2 decades. I don’t know why people think otherwise.
Stephen looks nothing like his parents
How did. The leash story happen if he left at 730jsh?
Does anyone remember when Jennifer said she came back home from her doctors appt and she “waited” to pick Maddie back up, not word for word but I thought it was weird she said she WAITED. I don’t drop my kids off at school then say I came back home and WAITED. Weird word, makes me think she’s in on it and WAITED to pretend to go through the motions. She KNEW she was dead. And because she knew that means she covering to protect her ass because she knew about the abuse too! She knows she’ll get in trouble for that so she lied right away.
The fact that Jenn referes 1:45:49 to Maddie , as does Debbie quote, That child /this child is objectifying . It's a possessive love at best by Jenn. Who like Debby refers to Stephan and to Madeline also which means their only relating to her as an object . Like something to be owned. In other words it's all about the adult and how they are distant from their own child except for their relevance to them. Distancing without identity , to be owned. Madeline didn't deserve that and it's so sad. Possessive love is the lowest feeling emotionally and . Many people don't love unconditionally but it's awful when it's your own child . I understand Debby Sterns wanting to distance herself now. Chris Sterns comment quote We have to ask ourselves quote DO we know our own son now. INDEED. I sense a lack of bonding and out of guilt and denial , they didn't know their children. However that being said I feel no sympathy for Stephan but acknowledge the parents selfishness. Even in their relationship. Alot of unhealthy relationships here. Nothing but empathy for poor Maddie who stood no chance. What a nightmare. She was so manipulated and controlled . So sickeningly abused and murdered. You cannot strangle and use evil means to control and dominate people Stephan. While Jenn neglected Madeline. You'll face your maker. This is such a suffering for poor Maddie . Rest now baby girl . Karen Morente
Well he never paid rent and will never in the future as well.
Poor Madeline what I am about to say Jean had room mates living in that house so Madeline did not have her own bed room as she should have had at her age so she had to give up her bedroom so jenn made her sleep with her boy friend that is wrong no other mother would not think to do a thing like that that is bad behaviour jenn had a low sex drive sterns her boyfriend had a high sex drive so that the reason why he took advantage on Madeline she was a easy picking to him jenn is covering up for sterns it stands out mile she should be charged for murder as well I do hope so what a mother turned out to be my heart go s out to 😡 Madeline she did not deserve to be murdered in horrid way there's more to meet the eye with jeen and sterns there's more then meets the eye 👁️ thanks Sargent for what you do
Do we know why Jenn broke up w him? and still let him in the house??
Bork everytime he says that im not good with the time
Would they release if it was as found she was pregnant during the autopsy??
Stern was very agitated and anxious after speaking to Maddie on the phone on Saturday. Why? What did she say to him? Did she tell him she was pregnant??
I’ve often wondered this and I don’t hear anyone talking about that.
I like the theory happened in room #4
She was definitely defending him!
The question is why in hell is she not charged?
It’s not normal for a teenager to leave her underwear in her mom’s Bedroom..!!!
WOW:1must ask(wht kind of mother)defend creepy person that killed with her daughter's death???!!Absolutely outrageou
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 REST IN PEACE MADDY 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
There were 2 tripods put up in the house. Maybe they were both in on it and Maddie threatened to tell on them both. Would explain Jens indifference.
It’s hard to believe that there are appalling, despicable, and some would even say evil behaviors that are perfectly legal, such as offering a lawyer to a man the police just showed you photos of him brutally SA’ing your 13-year old, currently missing daughter.
There is an interview with counselor and she said Maddie drew a picture of something that alerted her and instead of calling dcf she called the mother
They say if more than 3 people say the same thing it is usually true .JS be held accountable
How did Madeline’s croc end up in Jenn’s room, and the other in a Dumpster..Did she make it to her mom’s bed room for help and got hauled out??? Dead or alive ?
Bill-just putting it out there, but if SS parents would have said" you figure out how to get to KIssamee 37 year old man child, you are not using my car and no gas money" its highly possible that Maddy could still be alive. I wonder if they struggle with that.
Those parents definitely enabled that son of theirs a 37 year old louse
I just wonder if either of her roommates have seen or heard anything about what had been happening ? That poor little girl had to suffer at the hands of that monster !
One of the roommates warned Jenn that Maddie was locked in a bedroom w Stephan and Jenn just replied "thank you" via text message. She didn't care...😢
That screams pre meditation, double meds .He knew
Random thoughts: How do we know that Jen didn't choke her and Stearns disposed of her body.
I think they were both profiting from selling the images.
Either she was preggo or getting ready to tell.
If she was pregnant, SS would have been charged for double murder. 2 counts.